Post by: Bird on August 30, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
The timing of Y61’s demise by the end of 2016, which means it will have had an incredible 18-year run, was confirmed to motoring.com.au by Nissan Australia managing director Richard Emery.
Both the wagon and the cab-chassis versions of the Y61 are set to disappear, leaving the larger and more luxurious Y62 Patrol that has been on sale here since early 2013, but only with a V8 petrol engine.
“We will lose both the older shape Patrol Y61s sometime in the next 18 months and there is no replacement,” confirmed Emery.
The Navara-based off-road wagon is yet to be officially confirmed by Nissan, but is spoken of matter-of-factly by Emery. He has previously made it clear it was under serious consideration for Australia, but stresses the spiritual successor to the original Pathfinder would only come here if the business case stacked up.
Emery said fitting it into an already crowded line-up of SUVs would be an issue, specifically its impact on the seven-seat Pathfinder crossover. However, there is some differentiation as the Pathfinder is a light-duty off-roader and is offered only with petrol engines, although one of those is a fuel-saving petrol-electric option.
“Having a diesel-based seven-seat tow vehicle – which is where Y61 has been really successful for us – means it (the Navara-based
wagon) would give us an opportunity to retain those traditional Y61 buyers in the brand," he said.
“But then a bunch of those people would buy a Pathfinder anyway,” he cautioned. “They will choose between the two cars, so you will have some substitution. Then you have to decide how many more cars you are going to sell by introducing that car when we already have a wide range.
“It’s not that I am against it, but it’s going to be a robust business decision, not just ‘**** that looks good let’s have it’.”
Using a ladder-frame chassis borrowed from the Navara, the wagon would line up technically as a direct competitor for the forthcoming Ford Ranger-based Everest, Toyota HiLux-based Fortuner and Mitsubishi Triton-based third generation Challenger and several body-on-frame wagons already sold here including Holden’s Colorado ute-based Colorado7 and the Isuzu D-MAX-based MU-X.
Emery said the fact ute-based SUVs don’t generally sell well in Australia doesn’t help the Navara-based wagon's cause Down Under, but no doubt he will be watching how well Toyota goes with the Fortuner, which is to be pitched as an alternate for Kluger buyers who want a diesel engine.
“In the context of adding another model to an already busy SUV line-up it [the NP300-based wagon] would have to offer something unique and exceptional to bring it to market,” he said.
“If you look at that segment, something like the Colorado7 doesn’t sell a lot of volume. Challenger never really did a lot of volume.
“So for us it would have to be priced right, specced right and give us significant incremental opportunity for us to do it.”
Priced from $39,950, the Y61 went on sale in Australia in May 1998 – when it was then known as the GU – with a choice of 2.8-litre turbo-diesel and 4.5-litre petrol six-cylinder inline push-rod engines.
While touted as all-new, the GU actually carried over the basic drivetrains, live axles front and rear and coil spring suspension from its predecessor, the GQ (Y60), which launched in 1988.
But Patrol history can be traced all the way back to 1951 when the original 4W60 first appeared. Through the generations it came to dominate the large heavy-duty SUV segment along with the Toyota LandCruiser.
Nowadays sales of the current Y61 Patrol, which is offered as a 3.0-litre turbo-diesel in DX or ST specification, are just a fraction of what they once were.
by Bruce Newton 24th August 2015
Post by: green troll on August 30, 2015, 09:47:06 AM
Even if they bought a better diesel out in the gu i think they would really need to step it up, mostly the interior. Better auto aswell and more power and economy wouldnt go astray, but i think the fundementals are all correct. I was just faced with what to upgrade to from my weapon of a gq, and to me a nw pajero made sense. I know its a bit softer in 4x4 pedigree but with a family now its more about safety and comfort.
Btw pick up the paj next week.... yay
Long live the troll.
Post by: petrolburner on August 30, 2015, 10:04:05 AM
Until then the new version suits my family and towing needs much better than the old truck.
PS: I owned a nice 4.8 previously but my wife didnt like driving it so it had to go :( :(
Post by: plusnq on August 30, 2015, 12:38:12 PM
Post by: Jakster1 on August 30, 2015, 03:14:40 PM
Not at all refined by today's standards but I'll bet there are more old patrols on the road than equivalent aged "modern 4x4s" in the future. Say 10 - 15 years.
I feel confident when I'm out in my patrol, that I can push it hard and not break the thing. I can't say the same for most other 4x4 wagons and Utes.
A bit of suspension work and a few easy engine mods get them handling and performing actaully surprising well, but allow say $1500 for suspension and $3000 on engine mods and they go pretty good. But, we shouldn't have to do that, What really was needed was a bigger, more powerful engine.
Anyway, I'm keeping my Y61, wouldn't drive anything else at the moment. And who knows, with their demise they could be worth more or at least retain value.
Post by: plusnq on August 30, 2015, 03:32:06 PM
It's the end of an era for tough 4x4s.
Not at all refined by today's standards but I'll bet there are more old patrols on the road than equivalent aged "modern 4x4s" in the future. Say 10 - 15 years.
I feel confident when I'm out in my patrol, that I can push it hard and not break the thing. I can't say the same for most other 4x4 wagons and Utes.
A bit of suspension work and a few easy engine mods get them handling and performing actaully surprising well, but allow say $1500 for suspension and $3000 on engine mods and they go pretty good. But, we shouldn't have to do that, What really was needed was a bigger, more powerful engine.
Anyway, I'm keeping my Y61, wouldn't drive anything else at the moment. And who knows, with their demise they could be worth more or at least retain value.
I agree. And the hard choice is whether to get the last of the old school 4wds now, or wait and see which of the new breed will become the replacement for those interested in getting out rather than school runs or shopping centre car parks
Post by: Jakster1 on August 30, 2015, 03:42:16 PM
The days of buying a 4x4 because you need it are over. Now just about everyone has one. And they're more of a comfortable passenger vehicle.
In saying that some of the new high tech 4wds are unbelievably good offroad but also many are marketed as that and come nowhere near the mark.
That's what the Y61 did so well, it was more oriented for offroad but adapted to onroad not the other way round.
Post by: Oldandslow on August 30, 2015, 10:40:44 PM
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2015, 08:14:40 AM
Quote from: Oldandslow
I had a 2003 model 3lt turbo diesel Patrol for 7 years and put 160k on it without one problem, absolutely loved the car. We now have a new Isuzu MUX and it does everything better than the Patrol. It is more powerful, more economical, better suspension, better on the highway, better in the bushMUX is better than a Patrol in the bush... ??? Funniest Shit I ever read!
Post by: GeoffA on August 31, 2015, 08:16:59 AM
I had a 2003 model 3lt turbo diesel Patrol for 7 years and put 160k on it without one problem, absolutely loved the car. We now have a new Isuzu MUX and it does everything better than the Patrol. It is more powerful, more economical, better suspension, better on the highway, better in the bush, steers better, stops better, is finished better and all reports say the motor will last just about forever. I think Nissan is doing the right thing in retiring it off, it has earned a rest.
Well, it was a 3lt...... ::)
Post by: GeoffA on August 31, 2015, 08:18:30 AM
MUX is better than a Patrol in the bush... ??? Funniest Shit I ever read!
;D ;D
Post by: feisty on August 31, 2015, 08:33:29 AM
Post by: plusnq on August 31, 2015, 08:54:19 AM
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/seven-cars-britain-turned-its-nose#1 (http://www.topgear.com/car-news/seven-cars-britain-turned-its-nose#1)
Post by: JusyApples on August 31, 2015, 09:23:33 AM
The patrol had lockers and I was pretty impressed with how it went compared to the troopy
Only thing was it must of been built for midgets because it was uncomfortable for us tall blokes
Post by: jkwpajero on August 31, 2015, 09:24:39 AM
The V8 land cruiser is ceasing sales in the UK due to poor sales. The Patrol, Defender and now the Landcruiser, is this the end of times ? :)
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/seven-cars-britain-turned-its-nose#1 (http://www.topgear.com/car-news/seven-cars-britain-turned-its-nose#1)
That's just the Poms for you. They don't like a lot of things over there. Some of the cars on the list have done well in Australia. However I wonder what the sales ratio is for LC200 petrol to diesel here in Oz.
:cheers:
James
Post by: plusnq on August 31, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
Post by: AJ on August 31, 2015, 09:52:12 AM
18 years is a bloody good run.
A wake would be a good thing Bruce.
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2015, 09:55:31 AM
Sad but without a new engine it was overdue to disappear.who asked u :P
18 years is a bloody good run.
A wake would be a good thing Bruce.
went and visited the Golf loving freak the other day.. hes now an Audi loving freak... :o
Post by: tk421 on August 31, 2015, 11:49:32 AM
The V8 land cruiser is ceasing sales in the UK due to poor sales. The Patrol, Defender and now the Landcruiser, is this the end of times ? :)
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/seven-cars-britain-turned-its-nose#1 (http://www.topgear.com/car-news/seven-cars-britain-turned-its-nose#1)
No market really for it. They don't tow the big vans and boats as much, nearly every road is bitumen, Petrol is around $2.44 a litre and it gets hammered by the vehicle tax. Same applies for the patrol.
They pay different car taxes based on the emissions and fuel type. The V8 cruiser is in Tax Band L - the second highest at 490GBP Per year. That $1057 per year in tax just to drive it on top of fuel costs, rego (MOT) etc. Compare that to the D4D prado - $625 a year.
Post by: Jakster1 on August 31, 2015, 12:40:54 PM
MUX is better than a Patrol in the bush... ??? Funniest Shit I ever read!
I think he missed a few words like "graded tracks".
And that is my point exactly, for the majority of 4 Wheel drivers, Driving a medium/soft roader is adequate for their type of driving, And does it better than a Y61 patrol. Put it up hard tracks constantly and the thing will be broken before the day is out and same goes for most of that class of vehicle. They're more designed as a passenger or tow vehicle with a 4wd drivetrain for rougher roads than sealed.
The fact the GU did last 18 years, is testament to the fact that it does serve a market and serves it well.
Post by: DannyG on August 31, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
I think he missed a few words like "graded tracks".
I dont think he did at all. I think he is a past Patrol owner (albeit a 3.0ltr) who now has the opinion that his MUX is better in the bush that his Patrol was. At least he is genuinely able to compare the two ;)
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2015, 01:12:22 PM
I dont think he did at all. I think he is a past Patrol owner (albeit a 3.0ltr) who now has the opinion that his MUX is better in the bush that his Patrol was. At least he is genuinely able to compare the two ;)please bring it along to Rocky track
(http://www.gqpatrol.com/pics/vicrange/4.jpg)
Post by: DannyG on August 31, 2015, 01:17:02 PM
please bring it along to Rocky track
lol It would eat that track up easily mate, just like the old GQ would. What makes you think it wouldn't? Clearance?
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: DannyG
lol It would eat that track up easily mate, just like the old GQ would. What makes you think it wouldn't? Clearance?
Please, bring it along.... ;D
Post by: DannyG on August 31, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
Please, bring it along.... ;D
No worries but wouldn't want to scratch it, its too pretty :) Even though an MUX has 20mm more clearance stock than a stock y61 ;)
Im not gunna get into a my 4wd is better than yours debate, Im a Patrol fan as you know. But dont under estimate the new Isuzu range mate....its like eating sushi, you need to broaden your horizons ;D
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2015, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: DannyG
No worries but wouldn't want to scratch it, its too pretty :) Even though an MUX has 20mm more clearance stock than a stock y61 ;)That's 4inch lift, 35's @16psi and twin lockers to get up there in those days...
Im not gunna get into a my 4wd is better than yours debate, Im a Patrol fan as you know. But dont under estimate the new Isuzu range mate....its like eating sushi, you need to broaden your horizons ;D
Post by: DannyG on August 31, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
That's 4inch lift, 35's @16psi and twin lockers to get up there in those days...
MUX would do it stock ;)
Post by: plusnq on August 31, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
:)
Actually almost anything is.
Post by: Oldandslow on August 31, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
MUX is better than a Patrol in the bush... ??? Funniest Shit I ever read!
Didn't realize you have owned both Bird. My MUX is definitely better in the bush than the Patrol I owned for 7 years, the Patrol was great but was standard with no lockers. Nothing seems to stop the Isuzu, its traction system is amazing.
Post by: GUEY on August 31, 2015, 03:07:11 PM
Ok, they aren't the most stylish bit of gear around, but I was pretty impressed watching one in action a few weeks ago, and it would suit my needs perfectly (except for the budget :'( ).
For those staunch diesel types, give the Y62 another 6 to 12 months for things to develop ;)
Post by: vicandug on August 31, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Hubby loves the Patrols though.
If they built a patrol with the same motor thats in our car it would be a big seller!
Does that mean that the old shape will be gone altogether and we will just have bigger versions of the same car from Nissan?
Vicki
Post by: GeoffA on August 31, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
....its like eating sushi...;D
....very appropriate ;D ;D....I don't do that either :P :P
:cheers: :cheers:
Post by: Elky on August 31, 2015, 06:45:37 PM
The worst thing Nissan can do now is let customers get away into the hands of Toyota, they have not got anything for those wanting diesel in a full size wagon, and they are kidding themselves ppl will opt for A navara sized wagon!
Cheers
Post by: Hairs on August 31, 2015, 06:52:47 PM
(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/pot%20stiring.gif)
:cheers:
Post by: KingBilly on August 31, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
they have not got anything for those wanting diesel in a full size wagon, and they are kidding themselves ppl will opt for A navara sized wagon
Not a lot of difference :D
Y61 - L5050, W1940, H1855, WB2970
Pathfinder - L5008, W1960, H1768, WB2900
KB
Post by: GeoffA on August 31, 2015, 06:56:33 PM
The GU was made to keep Idiots out of 80's
(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/pot%20stiring.gif)
:cheers:
So you bought your 80 before the GU was on the market John??....... :P :P
Post by: Andrew_C on August 31, 2015, 07:03:30 PM
Post by: Hairs on August 31, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
So you bought your 80 before the GU was on the market John??....... :P :P
;D
Did a lot of research before I bought my 80 in August 05, paid $21,000.00 for it then(GXL 1HDT Manual 255,000km's)
It owes me $42, 000.00(not counting Fuel)
It's a constant 4wd, it does the job I'm prepared to pay for it to do that job.
I believe I have bought good value for money.
:cheers:
Post by: MarkGU on August 31, 2015, 07:23:45 PM
So you bought your 80 before the GU was on the market John??....... :P :PToyota made the Prado to take over from the 80 series Geoff.......even called it a Landcruiser 8)
Post by: Paulyg on August 31, 2015, 07:25:01 PM
Met a couple in a 3 litre patrol that was about four years old who tagged along. It spent most of its time in low when everyone else was in high. It struggled or didn't make it up several dunes (ran out of puff). I couldn't believe how poor it was. Nissan did themselves no favours putting that motor in the patrol.That doesn't really mean much, they may have been not very experienced 4wheel drivers.
I did the Simpson desert crossing last year in my 3L Patrol, in high range, I didn't get stuck once, even made it up Big Red first go, although I did put it in low range for that one.
Post by: Jakster1 on August 31, 2015, 07:25:26 PM
Didn't realize you have owned both Bird. My MUX is definitely better in the bush than the Patrol I owned for 7 years, the Patrol was great but was standard with no lockers. Nothing seems to stop the Isuzu, its traction system is amazing.
Your right there.....
Patrols are Pretty good in standard form offroad in most normal situations but far from fantastic. To make them really, really good and damn near unstoppable a bit of lift, better tyres and locker(s) is really all that is needed.
All vehicles benefit the same from lift and tyres
so the only thing really was lockers which were standard in the rear with TC also I believe from 2012 onwards.
It can be argued that the GU patrol was / still is one of the toughest trucks around on the 4x4 scene. One only needs to attend a 4wd comp to see that patrols dominate everywhere.
Post by: nab on August 31, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Honestly, how often do people drive their family 4x4 in the really rough 4x4 tracks? 2 or 3 times a year? IMO not worth putting up with all the negatives for that few times a year where it was awesome.
As said above the GU has its place but most new 4x4 utes/wagons can do a better job than the GU in 95% of driving situations.
Post by: shanegtr on September 01, 2015, 06:14:19 AM
That's just the Poms for you. They don't like a lot of things over there. Some of the cars on the list have done well in Australia. However I wonder what the sales ratio is for LC200 petrol to diesel here in Oz.I thought I recalled reading somewhere that around 90% of 200 series cruisers sold are diesel. If that's the case then no wonder you rarely see a Y62 patrol on the roads.
:cheers:
James
Post by: chisel on September 01, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
I thought I recalled reading somewhere that around 90% of 200 series cruisers sold are diesel. If that's the case then no wonder you rarely see a Y62 patrol on the roads.
Exactly - and how many petrol dual-cabs are there any more? None except the hilux which is probably 10% of hilux dual-cab sales.
Toyota themselves said petrol prados are about 2% of their prado sales http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyota-updates-prado-20150831-gjc3wd.html (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyota-updates-prado-20150831-gjc3wd.html)
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what Nissan comes up with in terms of a diesel powered wagon ... and see how the Fortuner looks too. I can't see holden or isuzu selling too many Colorados and MU-Xs once the Fortuner is out there at a similar price.
Post by: GeoffA on September 01, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
......
Honestly, how often do people drive their family 4x4 in the really rough 4x4 tracks? 2 or 3 times a year? IMO not worth putting up with all the negatives for that few times a year where it was awesome.
As said above the GU has its place but most new 4x4 utes/wagons can do a better job than the GU in 95% of driving situations.
None of the new wagons interest me at all, and the utes even less.
Mine is really only used for trips and holidays now, so I'll be keeping it for a LONG time yet.
Post by: Bird on September 01, 2015, 12:15:33 PM
None of the new wagons interest me at all, and the utes even less.x eleventy1
Mine is really only used for trips and holidays now, so I'll be keeping it for a LONG time yet.
Post by: KingBilly on September 01, 2015, 12:17:31 PM
I can't see holden or isuzu selling too many Colorados and MU-Xs once the Fortuner is out there at a similar price
If you look at current pricing for the Hilux and Isuzu as a guide, the Fortuner will be $10K more expensive just because it has a Toyota badge.
KB
Post by: outbackogre on September 01, 2015, 12:30:55 PM
I had 2 GU Patrols, both were great in the really rough stuff but my current Pajero does everything else much better - onroad, gravel tracks, mild 4x4ing, beach, comfort, towing, wife-friendly, fuel economy, power. Even interior room is only marginally smaller.
Honestly, how often do people drive their family 4x4 in the really rough 4x4 tracks? 2 or 3 times a year? IMO not worth putting up with all the negatives for that few times a year where it was awesome.
As said above the GU has its place but most new 4x4 utes/wagons can do a better job than the GU in 95% of driving situations.
I tend to agree with this comment. I've owned two dual fuel GQ's (admittedly no GU's) and currently an 02 diesel Pajero for the past 5 years. It's done parts of the high country, the Kimberley and central Aus, as well as two Simpson crossings. The last one (Oodnadatta to Birdsville) was achieved on one tank (85 lit) of fuel (I was carrying 40 lit in jerries). All it's got is a 2inch lift and AT tyres. It's easy to live with as mum's taxi for most of the year but also a great towing (13 lit/100 towing about 1 tonne) and touring vehicle. Just about to tick over 250 thou k's and still going well (touch wood).
Post by: DannyG on September 01, 2015, 12:37:07 PM
None of the new wagons interest me at all, and the utes even less.
Mine is really only used for trips and holidays now, so I'll be keeping it for a LONG time yet.
You need to start eating sushi mate ;D
Post by: GeoffA on September 01, 2015, 12:46:55 PM
You need to start eating sushi mate ;D
Nope. No avocado for me either.
Proper food, and proper cars.......
Post by: time on September 01, 2015, 12:54:59 PM
Post by: DannyG on September 01, 2015, 12:57:42 PM
Nope. No avocado for me either.
Proper food, and proper cars.......
Pretty safe to say you dont sprinkle psyllium husk and chia seeds on your weetbix either then ;) I miss my Patrol :(
Post by: callmejoe on September 01, 2015, 01:01:33 PM
Straight into y62 patrol. Start living in today. :cheers:
Post by: noel_w on September 01, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
Think its time people just suck it up and move on up.Don't see too many Y62 utes around.
Straight into y62 patrol. Start living in today. :cheers:
Post by: callmejoe on September 01, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Don't see too many Y62 utes around.
There is 1 at the moment getting the chop in Perth. But they are also putting in a durmax or something.
Post by: dazzler on September 01, 2015, 01:28:39 PM
If you look at current pricing for the Hilux and Isuzu as a guide, the Fortuner will be $10K more expensive just because it has a Toyota badge.
KB
And will sell like hotcakes.
Post by: Bird on September 01, 2015, 01:45:08 PM
Quote from: callmejoe
There is 1 at the moment getting the chop in Perth. But they are also putting in a durmax or something.
One...
oh that's it.. th markets flooded.
Post by: briann532 on September 01, 2015, 03:50:48 PM
Think its time people just suck it up and move on up.
Straight into y62 patrol. Start living in today. :cheers:
Not too hard a choice when they are giving them away...........
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Nissan-Patrol-2015/AGC-AD-18231284/?Cr=4 (http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Nissan-Patrol-2015/AGC-AD-18231284/?Cr=4)
If I hadn't recently bought the playdo, I'd be getting one for sure.
I'm even considering the upgrade anyway as the new van is 3000kgs.........
Might wait and have a long look at the fraud Everest when it finally launches, but for the money, I reckon the big patrol wagon is going to be a winner.
(of course the whole diesel / petrol thing goes on and on like 6 B&S, but at the end of the day what you spend in fuel you save in servicing and up front cost)
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
More money........... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Whoever thinks camping is a cheap hobby has clearly never tried it..... >:D
Cheers
Brian
Post by: noel_w on September 01, 2015, 04:03:55 PM
Well we all know that camping is akin to paying lots of $$$ to live like a homeless person :laugh: :laugh:
More money........... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Whoever thinks camping is a cheap hobby has clearly never tried it..... >:D
Cheers
Brian
Post by: GeoffA on September 01, 2015, 04:52:25 PM
Well we all know that camping is akin to paying lots of $$$ to live like a homeless person :laugh: :laugh:
It's only super expensive if you MUST have the latest and greatest......
:cheers:
Post by: petrolburner on September 01, 2015, 05:42:19 PM
Had a Y61 with the 4.8 previously, for me once they dropped the 4.8 the Y61 patrol was dead already :)
So far the Y62 had proven itself more capable and more comfortable than my Y61 ever was and its still stock!!
If you havnt had a drive in one you don't know what you're missing!!
Post by: plusnq on September 01, 2015, 05:49:14 PM
It's only super expensive if you MUST have the latest and greatest......
:cheers:
Yep. Be like my mates and borrow all my stuff. Much cheaper then...............
Post by: Nick74 on September 01, 2015, 06:38:16 PM
My 2005 4.2l diesel Patrol is worth what cost new 10 years ago. I rest my case ;)
It may be worth that much to you but the market probably won't support it.
According to Redbook.com.au the new price of an ST manual was $58990. You may have got a better deal than that though
And looking at Carsales.com.au at all of the 10 2005 4.2s are around shows us the average price is $43,500.
Some of these were stock and normal klms and some were modded with low klms so they covered the spectrum of what type of 4.2s are going to be out there. Top price was $56,000 for one with 129 000klms and the cheapest was $30,000 and it had 255 000klms
Sorry to burst your bubble.............
And back to oroginal topic....................farewell GU...............thanks for the poopy memories!
Post by: GeoffA on September 01, 2015, 06:48:06 PM
He'd get a lot more for his 2005 Patrol than you would for your 2013 Challenger.......
:cheers:
Post by: Hairs on September 01, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
My 2005 4.2l diesel Patrol is worth what cost new 10 years ago. I rest my case ;)That's only because it has a full tank of fuel ;D
Post by: Elky on September 01, 2015, 07:19:11 PM
Post by: GeoffA on September 01, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
Wow $43k for a 10year old patrol? Jeezus are ppl paying that?
TD42T Patrols have excellent retained value..... ;D ;D
Post by: briann532 on September 01, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
It's only super expensive if you MUST have the latest and greatest......
:cheers:
So does this mean I'm the only one who goes camping to play with toys?????? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Seriously, I could stay home and watch t.v. otherwise...... >:D >:D >:D
Beer, fire, toys. In no particular order.
Post by: Hairs on September 01, 2015, 08:03:45 PM
-Only to those that are prepared to pay the price.
TD42T Patrols have excellent retained value..... ;D ;D
Just like those that are prepared to pay the coin for an early 80(91-93 1hdt), some still fetch up to 24K.
Your vehicle is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.
:cheers:
Post by: GGV8Cruza on September 01, 2015, 08:11:07 PM
TD42T Patrols have excellent retained value..... ;D ;D
They sure do, even on trade ins ;D >:D
GG
Post by: Davepatrol on September 01, 2015, 08:54:27 PM
Only to those that are prepared to pay the price.At least an 80 can do it's own oil change, you just have to through 4/5 lts in it at the end of each week >:D 8) ;D
Just like those that are prepared to pay the coin for an early 80(91-93 1hdt), some still fetch up to 24K.
Your vehicle is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.
:cheers:
Post by: Hairs on September 02, 2015, 05:10:25 AM
At least an 80 can do it's own oil change, you just have to through 4/5 lts in it at the end of each week >:D 8) ;D;D ;D ;D
:cheers:
Post by: Elky on September 02, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
Post by: shanegtr on September 02, 2015, 10:01:39 PM
Post by: scott13april on September 02, 2015, 11:32:09 PM
Don't see too many Y62 utes around.
How about 200 series Utes?(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/02/3b4ad337d0fc0a1443a017000bcde447.jpg)
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Post by: Nick74 on September 03, 2015, 06:22:28 PM
::)
He'd get a lot more for his 2005 Patrol than you would for your 2013 Challenger.......
:cheers:
That may be the case, but I paid a lot less for mine :angel:
Post by: GeoffA on September 03, 2015, 06:37:28 PM
That may be the case, but I paid a lot less for mine :angel:
Yep......and they're quite nice, too.
My wife's uncle has one. It suits them fine.
The engine was replaced under warranty. It was loosing coolant.
Turned out to be a porous block :o :o....(not completely unheard of, either)
They all have their issues.
:cheers:
Post by: oldmate on September 03, 2015, 08:19:06 PM
Post by: GUEY on September 04, 2015, 08:13:15 AM
Might be time to DURAMAX my old girl.
If I had the coin (or the ability to do myself ) that would be my choice :cup:
Post by: oldmate on September 06, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
Post by: Hairs on September 06, 2015, 06:48:00 PM
Might be time to DURAMAX my old girl.
If I had the coin, go for it.
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