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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: duggie on December 09, 2014, 08:05:08 AM
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Hello peoples,
This is a new system for self recovery, made in North Queensland.
I reckon it would work in most situations, but I was wondering if anyone has tried it out .
VEHICLE RECOVERY DEVICE
The BOG OUT Vehicle Recovery Device provides for a new way to get vehicles out of bogs. It can fit any tyre and can be made to any realistic strength, allowing for even very heavy machinery or military equipment to be able to self rescue.
http://www.bogout.com/ (http://www.bogout.com/)
http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/inventor-puts-wheels-in-motion-with-an-ingenious-bog-out/story-fnjpusdv-1227045250141 (http://www.cairnspost.com.au/business/inventor-puts-wheels-in-motion-with-an-ingenious-bog-out/story-fnjpusdv-1227045250141)
cheers duggie
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I like the concept, and the fact you could use it to pull you out in any direction..
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The principle looks very similar to wheel winches, which is a drum that locks onto extended wheel nuts.
I have also seen on YouTube in Ariabic countries with sand that they tie a snatch strap or winch extension strap to the rim of a spinning wheel and drive out as the wheel runs along the top of the strap.
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I like it and think it will be a winner. What a great idea.
I doubt the idea is new, but its always the simple solutions that are the best.
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Would it work with LSD - Are LSDs still around ?? LOL
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Would it work with LSD - Are LSDs still around ?? LOL
I reckon it would work best with a LSD, and yes the LSD is still around, making the wheels go round and round. ;D
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Thanks Duggie !!
Think I'll get one - Simple enough even for me to use ..
Cheers
Steve
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Brilliant much better than the wheel winch.
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I thought LSD went out of fashion in the 60's ??? ;D
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I thought LSD went out of fashion in the 60's ??? ;D
;D ;D Better stuff around now ;D
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You could run a book to see how long it is before the knock-offs hit the streets.
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You could run a book to see how long it is before the knock-offs hit the streets.
True, but at $180 shipped, some may suggest there is plenty of room in the price for this to happen :(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_TfH3qjU-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_TfH3qjU-w)
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Hi,
it could be fun if it slipped off the tyre to the inside of the wheel for a few revolutions.
cheers
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I was initially very impressed but then got to thinking...
It's good as a back-up but not sure it's a substitute for a winch as claimed in the marketing.
What happens if you are climbing a muddy bank for example and you run out of length of the webbing straps?
You wouldn't be able to even continue to drive without jacking it up a removing once you've got more than a single wrap around. Imaging the funky angles you would need to get the hilift out for then! Great for little hops out of a rut or a hole but I can see it being a PITA if you need to do more than 1 tyre revolution... IMHO!
Notice that the video is edited/cut when removing the strapping. It's certainly not the same recovery that is shown in the video as she has multiple wraps on that.
As DannyG also mentioned... $180 for a "single pack" is that 1 wheel or 2?
If it's only 1 wheel that's $360 for 2 plus $160 for rope. I'd spend my money on a bigjules 12k winch first!
In the products defence, if have not actually seen or used one and the above is only my opinion made from assumed operations!
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Just another 4x4 must have gimmick like max trax.
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Just another 4x4 must have gimmick like max trax.
Really. Don't think the two are comparable. Max Trax, TREDS, Mallee Tracks, etc. are excellent and have saved me a few times. They have been proven to work by many.
KB
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Well, this certainly wasn't what I was expecting. Thought this thread may have been about some new type of laxative on the market ;D
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Really. Don't think the two are comparable. Max Trax, TREDS, Mallee Tracks, etc. are excellent and have saved me a few times. They have been proven to work by many.
KB
Not saying they all don't work just every second 4wd seems to have them regardless of if they need them or not, just like another fashion accessory.
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Just because you see them on the roof doesn't mean they don't get used. I always carry mine with me, and they have been extremely valuable a number of times. They don't get used that often, and that's the way I like it.
In regards to this concept, it looks good, except I agree it would be a nightmare trying to remove it and no good for hills unless you had traction again, or the ability to stop rolling backwards
Aaron
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Not saying they all don't work just every second 4wd seems to have them regardless of if they need them or not, just like another fashion accessory.
with all due respect, couldn't you say that about a winch, or a jack or a spare tyre?
about the item at hand, i guess for the price, it is another tool to help out if stuck. worth it for piece of mind...
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I thought this was going to be something to do with a warm bag of water and a tube.
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Same concept as a chain but made out of rope, would probably cut the track up if used with a lot of right boot. Considering how a winch rope really likes being retrieved along rocks and mud, you'd have to question the longevity...
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I was initially very impressed but then got to thinking...
It's good as a back-up but not sure it's a substitute for a winch as claimed in the marketing.
What happens if you are climbing a muddy bank for example and you run out of length of the webbing straps?
You wouldn't be able to even continue to drive without jacking it up a removing once you've got more than a single wrap around. Imaging the funky angles you would need to get the hilift out for then! Great for little hops out of a rut or a hole but I can see it being a PITA if you need to do more than 1 tyre revolution... IMHO!
Notice that the video is edited/cut when removing the strapping. It's certainly not the same recovery that is shown in the video as she has multiple wraps on that.
As DannyG also mentioned... $180 for a "single pack" is that 1 wheel or 2?
If it's only 1 wheel that's $360 for 2 plus $160 for rope. I'd spend my money on a bigjules 12k winch first!
In the products defence, if have not actually seen or used one and the above is only my opinion made from assumed operations!
Yeah I agree, so how do you unravel multiple revolutions of rope from the tyre? The horizontal cords don't appear to detach.
As an aside, she is smoking hot! She can get my bog out anytime.
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........so how do you unravel multiple revolutions of rope from the tyre?......
Reverse back to where you were. Quite simple really....... ;D ;D
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As far as packaging is concerened it would certainly be a lot easier to carry than the bush winch (http://www.bushwinch.com.au/ (http://www.bushwinch.com.au/)). Lighter and more compact. I like the idea, but agree with some of the above comments regarding getting it back off the wheel once your done
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This falls squarely into the "Good in theory, fail in practise" category, Sitting right beside the bush winch.
Actually the more I think about it, I don't even think its that great in theory, its an even bigger fail than the bush winch.
Lets say we're bogged(really bogged, not just sunk in the sand where 2 minutes with a shovel would see you simply drive out as in their video).
First up, we need an anchor point, make that 2 anchor points, each one lined up nicely with a wheel. How likely is that ever to happen ?
(And yes we will need 2, because we are really bogged and if we pull from one side of the vehicle only, we start to turn sideways and the ropes will jump off)
Ok, so the stars have aligned and we have our anchor points, lets start winching.
Scenario 1, We have an open diff, one wheel spun, the other didn't, it pulled us out of line with the anchor points and the ropes jumped off. So now I have one set of ropes tangled around my diff, time have to crawl under and untangle it. Bugger !!
Scenario 2, we have a LSD/locked diff, both sides pull evenly, and then the front catches in a rut, turns us out of alignment and the ropes jump off..... Bugger !!
Scenario 3, the stars have stayed aligned and we're out !! Hooray, lets grab the jack and jack each side up and pull the ropes off....... hmmm hang on, if we have to jack it anyway, why didn't we just jack it and pack under the tyres and drive out in the first place ???
There may well be a rare occasion where this system might work, But, you would be far better off to carry a good long handled shovel and a decent jack(and jacking plate). A bit of shovelling or jack n pack(or both) will see you on your way most times.
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Or carry recovery tracks if sand driving. Lot less work and proven to be effective.
KB
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All these great ideas to substitute a winch.
Why not just buy a winch? ???
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Frankly the old school wheel winch looks a lot safer in comparison.
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All these great ideas to substitute a winch.
Why not just buy a winch? ???
Coz it's going to cost me about $2000+. I'll stay with my old tirfor :'(
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Coz it's going to cost me about $2000+. I'll stay with my old tirfor :'(
You'll get one a hell of a lot cheaper than that.
I know a guy who knew a guy who spoke to a bloke that had a mate on "myswag" that can help you out..................
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You'll get one a hell of a lot cheaper than that.
I know a guy who knew a guy who spoke to a bloke that had a mate on "myswag" that can help you out..................
Does that include the bullbar / electrics and installation :D
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I had no idea a Troopy could be bogged until now..... Took a good effort from a sheila to do it..... ;D
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And how did you get it out?
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Does that include the bullbar / electrics and installation :D
Complete kit, fit it yourself.......
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I thought this was going to be something to do with a warm bag of water and a tube.
:cup: :cup: made my day anyway mate.
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And how did you get it out?
I can tell you 1 thing for sure, I do not not look as good as her!
My troopy does look better though