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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: MarkGU on December 06, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
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Taken from a drivers Face Book page.
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This photo was taken recently at the Yelgun rest area on the North Coast of NSW. I have shared the photo from other truck pages. The parking bays you can see are reserved for the use of Livestock and Refrigerated heavy vehicles only. There are many signs stating this.
This rest area also has a spot set aside for caravans and campers, which was obviously full this night.
Heavy vehicles are required by law to follow strict fatigue guidelines. The fines for breaching these regulations are huge and the safety risks even more so.
The inconsiderate and selfish behaviour shown by those illegally parked in this area is occurring more and more frequently.
This practice must be stopped. The reason should be obvious. Who wants the next truck coming at you driven by a tired truck driver with nowhere to park?
Just remember when your lucky enough to be on holidays that some of us are still toiling away and need our designated parking bays.
cheers.
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Yeh, saw this on facebook....very poor form..
Not sure why you'd want to park near trucks that leave all hrs of the night, and in this case have refrig units going all night ??
They'd have no right to complain if a truck happened to nudge them out of the way..
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Yes too true.
Keep in mind everyone else on the road over Christmas is trying to get to family so lets all try and do the right thing by everyone. Stay safe and respectful.
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Sign of the times where people only think about #1 and stuff everyone else.
I would have been pretty peeved if I was that truck driver.
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Tight-arses.....
All the money they've put into the car/caravan setup, and they won't part with a few dollars. ::)
Why anyone would setup in a truck stop is beyond me.....(but then again, see my opening statement)
:cheers:
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Tight-arses.....
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Hit the nail on the head..
I'd test the horn on the truck and see if it works.. Make sure there's no other trucks having shut eye first.. >:D
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Not to stereo type...but typical GN.....I see it all the time...
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Yeah poor poor form. I would of double parked my b-double as close to the side of them as I could get it, then sat there for an hour with the truck idling while a had a feed and crap. Wait for them to all come out
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As a heavy vehicle driver myself, this is all too common practice.If i was to park in a caravan only parking bay ,then the phones would run hot straight to the police.The thing with the photo is, the drivers in that truck now has to risk a fine to drive further up the road to find another parking bay if he is already run out of his driving hours.
This could end up costing him hundreds of dollars and demerit points all because the caravan owners didnt want to drive past their 3pm happy hour :-/
When out on the road we all need to share but when it comes to rest breaks the RMS has a NO TOLERANCE policy where to stop, if your out of hours then your out of hours.
A caravan and car can be parked just about anywhere for the night........a b-double cant.
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Yep too right mate, too right.
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As a heavy vehicle driver myself, this is all too common practice.If i was to park in a caravan only parking bay ,then the phones would run hot straight to the police.The thing with the photo is, the drivers in that truck now has to risk a fine to drive further up the road to find another parking bay if he is already run out of his driving hours.
This could end up costing him hundreds of dollars and demerit points all because the caravan owners didnt want to drive past their 3pm happy hour :-/
When out on the road we all need to share but when it comes to rest breaks the RMS has a NO TOLERANCE policy where to stop, if your out of hours then your out of hours.
A caravan and car can be parked just about anywhere for the night........a b-double cant.
Hi Mark
Do the local Cops patrol this area and ask them to move on ? Is it worth reporting to them ?
These would be the same Police who attend the accidents in the area, so you would think they'd be on your side, even the RMS ! Although we know how they can be >:D
Scott
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Hi Mark
Do the local Cops patrol this area and ask them to move on ? Is it worth reporting to them ?
These would be the same Police who attend the accidents in the area, so you would think they'd be on your side, even the RMS ! Although we know how they can be >:D
Scott
I reckon i know what the answer would be at all hours of the night if i was to make a call to the local lock up complaining about them parking there........anyone know the answer?
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As a heavy vehicle driver myself, this is all too common practice.If i was to park in a caravan only parking bay ,then the phones would run hot straight to the police.The thing with the photo is, the drivers in that truck now has to risk a fine to drive further up the road to find another parking bay if he is already run out of his driving hours.
This could end up costing him hundreds of dollars and demerit points all because the caravan owners didnt want to drive past their 3pm happy hour :-/
When out on the road we all need to share but when it comes to rest breaks the RMS has a NO TOLERANCE policy where to stop, if your out of hours then your out of hours.
A caravan and car can be parked just about anywhere for the night........a b-double cant.
Or worse, cause a fatality due to fatigue, as the driver was required to continue driving xxxkms to find an appropriate parking area....one would hope this never occurs, but its real possibility.
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I reckon i know what the answer would be at all hours of the night if i was to make a call to the local lock up complaining about them parking there........anyone know the answer?
Yeah, I kinda new the answer to this as I was typing, but you poor blokes/drivers cop a bagging and in particular during the holiday season when more joe public are
out on the road. I as someone who is in the Supply Chain and has a Line-haul driver working the East Coast from Brisbane-Sydney-Brisbane for me would like to think
the same Police/RMS enforce the rules on you also ensure you can comply !
But as you rightly say, would they ?
If they got a number of complaints/calls over time they would need to act, they're not above their own Duty Of Care responsibilities.
Your life is no less valuable then mine
Stay safe mate
Scott
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Yeah poor poor form. I would of double parked my b-double as close to the side of them as I could get it, then sat there for an hour with the truck idling while a had a feed and crap. Wait for them to all come out
X2 on above....maybe even organise a few other drivers to park their trucks up blocking the exits so none of them can get away when they want to leave aswell.
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.anyone know the answer?
Just tell theres a free beer and prawns party with strippers .... They'd be on it like a seagulls on a chip ..
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Just sit there with your lights on high beam and your air horn going full bore. They would soon get the hint. :police:
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I know CP owners/associations are campaigning against travelers free camping in designated camping areas near towns. I haven't heard of anyone doing anything about stopping travelers using designated truck stops....fines etc?
Just curious...
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X2 on above....maybe even organise a few other drivers to park their trucks up blocking the exits so none of them can get away when they want to leave aswell.
the trouble with that is Mal that they settle in around 3pm every arvo and dont leave til after breakfast time the next day. we still have tight deadlines that we have to abide by ( the supposed chain of responsibility was to stop all time slots) ::)
We have a company policy of resting & sleeping between midnight & 7am,so blocking them in would have no advantages im afraid. Maybe a b-double stock crate parked next to their shiny new van, letting the bullocks crap all down the side of the van "might" get the message thru?
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......Maybe a b-double stock crate parked next to their shiny new van, letting the bullocks crap all down the side of the van "might" get the message thru?
....and the noise all through the night....
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....and the noise all through the night....
then again, the noise i heard on night while we had a Coota parked in the yard would have kept them awake :P
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Maybe a b-double stock crate parked next to their shiny new van, letting the bullocks crap all down the side of the van "might" get the message thru?
that sounds like an even better plan :cup: ;D ;D
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then again, the noise i heard on night while we had a Coota parked in the yard would have kept them awake :P
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I'm gunna park in truck bays now...... ;D
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wonder how the driver would go in court if he sideswiped all those cars/trailers illegally parked :cup:
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wonder how the driver would go in court if he sideswiped all those cars/trailers illegally parked :cup:
A car was parked in a bus zone right behind my father in his coach at parramatta years ago. Dad came from loading luggage jumped into the drivers seat hit reverse so he could clear the coach in front and guess what, he was on the windscreen of the car before he knew it. People came out kicking and screaming, police turned up, fined them for illegal parking, and dad drove off.
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After you'd sanded them back with the bullbar, you'd put the call out on the radio for a dozen trucks to pop in for 15mins, and all sit there on the horns until they all got pissed off and drove off :D
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Revenge and retaliation can only cause trouble.
As good as it sounds to do to them, and hell knows I'd love to, its only fuel on the fire.
Councils are reducing free camps because of pressure from businesses.
National Sparks and wildfires don't want you anywhere near them and forests are actually trying to do their bit, but with limited government funding and resources, most gov depts can't provide the service needed.
Individuals lobbying local council is as useful as t1ts on a bullfrog.
Writing to papers won't sell advertising and protests - well ask the Greens how well they go.
A local copper is only going to resent being sent out to take on a heap of cranky agitated grey nomads who have been woken up, by what they perceive to be evil >:D satanic truck drivers who only intent is to kill them and make their lives miserable on the road.
Go on then if you don't believe me try rationalising with some old geyser even when he hasn't been woken up mid sleep.
They respect your opinion as long as its exactly the same as theirs.............
No I don't have an answer, but I know that p155ing them off will only make matters worse.
Personally I'd love to see 468 flat tyres on their inconsiderate donkeys van, and cars in the morning, but again this is only retaliation and wont solve a thing.
Another idea is to photograph each car with rego and post it on every GN and caravan site in the land, but again - dissent and aggravation.
Now a feasible solution is to approach organisations like RACQ and NRMA with said photos and some informed information of truck rest areas, times, distances and log books and ask them nicely to see what they can do.
This approach run through the right departments may work, but it may not. At least its having a go.
Now off topic slightly, but It seems that there are a lot of myswag posts about various gripes in life and on the road.
Neighbours, noise, speed, hoons, graffiti, selfish campers, smokers, dog owners, truck driver, gypsies and any other thing that people are annoyed at on the day.
Ultimately everyone ( me included) offers an opinion, we hear a few sagas then the thread slowly dies before the next vengeful rant about some selfish fool comes along.
I am yet to see a thread on any forum that can't be summed up with the rationale that it is ignorance and selfishness that is the problem.
Be it any gripe, its usually because someone is being selfish or inconsiderate.
Thankfully I find this forum, although the gripes are the same and the results are usually the same, has a nice bunch of people who actually do seem to care and share.
Thank you to all of you who make this little slice of policia Australia, better.
Brian
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Send in the Jehovah's. :cheers:
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Send in the Jehovah's. :cheers:
;D ;D ;D ;D :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
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that sounds like an even better plan :cup: ;D ;D
Make sure they have came off a padock of oats, that stuff goes further, sticks & stains.
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Maybe a b-double stock crate parked next to their shiny new van, letting the bullocks crap all down the side of the van "might" get the message thru?
Make sure they have came off a padock of oats, that stuff goes further, sticks & stains.
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Well said Brian532.
Although I think it would be wise for every truckie to give the air horns a good hearty blast as they roll past.
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A local copper is only going to resent being sent out to take on a heap of cranky agitated grey nomads who have been woken up,
Im not sure, correct me if Im wrong, but that's his job - to uphold the law..
I'm quite sure he wouldn't let any truck driver get off lightly who was over on logbook times would he ??? And telling them that 'it was full of caravans' wouldn't get him off either...
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Im not sure, correct me if Im wrong, but that's his job - to uphold the law..
I'm quite sure he wouldn't let any truck driver get off lightly who was over on logbook times would he ??? And telling them that 'it was full of caravans' wouldn't get him off either...
Yeah got to agree, the copper may resent it, but stiff!
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Tight-arses.....
All the money they've put into the car/caravan setup, and they won't part with a few dollars. ::)
I agree with a Nomad for not wanting to part with cash to camp in a van park.....I don't like van parks either, and it's not just about the dollars.....I just like free camping away from the crowds..
Don't forget they have no kids that want/need a shower every day ....or a jumping pillow....or a pool..
But as shown, a lot of them are sooks because they like camping in numbers....must make them feel safe......but to camp on the side of a hwy.....?? they must be sound sleepers ??
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Im not sure, correct me if Im wrong, but that's his job - to uphold the law..
I'm quite sure he wouldn't let any truck driver get off lightly who was over on logbook times would he ??? And telling them that 'it was full of caravans' wouldn't get him off either...
'ere 'ere :cup: :cup:
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I agree with a Nomad for not wanting to part with cash to camp in a van park.....I don't like van parks either, and it's not just about the dollars.....I just like free camping away from the crowds..
Don't forget they have no kids that want/need a shower every day ....or a jumping pillow....or a pool..
But as shown, a lot of them are sooks because they like camping in numbers....must make them feel safe......but to camp on the side of a hwy.....?? they must be sound sleepers ??
Yes, I understand what you're saying there gronk, but when traveling and doing big k's for days on end, it's rarely easy to find a decent free bush camp that's close to a major hwy. Just because I can free camp, doesn't mean I have to. Like them or not, CP's have their place.
In the case of most GN's it's all about the money. Some of the places they stop are just ::) ::)
They'd rather camp in a noisy dust bowl on the side a major hwy, or in this case, a truck parking area, than spend a bob. Seen heaps of it over the last few years.......
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But a few of them are penny pinching because they haven't got a lot to throw around.....a bit over $400 a week for a married couple on the pension.
A night in a van park or a weeks supply of beer ??
Looking at the photo, most look like travellers, not grey nomads...the vans and 4wd's look too new !!
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the vans and 4wd's look too new !!
I dunno, most nomads I've seen aren't driving a HQ with 1 mag, and bucket bench seats and a 1968 Viscount.
either way they are in the wrong.
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I dunno, most nomads I've seen aren't driving a HQ with 1 mag, and bucket bench seats and a 1968 Viscount.
either way they are in the wrong.
Yep. It's very rare to see an old car/van combo. Our setup would be older than most.
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Doesnt matter what they drive or tow, they ( GN's) should know how to follow rules better than most.As the signs are there ( Refrigerated & stock carrying vehicles only) i just hope they can read English and abide by the rules as the rest of us have to.
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Doesnt matter what they drive or tow, they ( GN's) should know how to follow rules better than most.As the signs are there ( Refrigerated & stock carrying vehicles only) i just hope they can read English and abide by the rules as the rest of us have to.
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Doesnt matter what they drive or tow, they ( GN's) should know how to follow rules better than most.As the signs are there ( Refrigerated & stock carrying vehicles only) i just hope they can read English and abide by the rules as the rest of us have to.
Agreed.
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Fit up a decent set of horns and have some fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITtlxjvLQis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITtlxjvLQis) crank up the volume ;D
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If you were one of the said van drivers I know I would be seeking out a lonely country lane.....
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Looking at the photo, most look like travellers, not grey nomads...the vans and 4wd's look too new !!
Majority of GN's buy new...or close to it when they retire
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The few that I can see look like late model, except the commy wagon on the left
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I think that last van is Rusty.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
jet >:D >:D >:D >:D