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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bird on November 21, 2014, 10:12:21 AM
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... well my second worst nightmare is coming true....
Son needs a laptop for school next year - and the choices are - Acer, Lenovo, I.. I cant say it(http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif)... an (http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif), or Microsoft Surface..
My only experience of Acer wasn't good.... and haven't touched Lenovo's since IBM got rid of them.
So it came down to his choice - so I have to buy a .. (http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif)...
but I know Jack Schitt about them.
1 - So, it has to be a (http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif) MacBook Pro or (http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif) MacBook Air.
Whats the difference. ??? Is one better than the other... ???
2 - Where's the best place to buy one of these (http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif) things - I see Kogan has them
http://www.kogan.com/au/search/?keywords=apple+13%22+macbook (http://www.kogan.com/au/search/?keywords=apple+13%22+macbook)
3 - Software for them, where do you get it, are there torrents for it? as I have a distinct allergy to paying for software and have only bought one program in the last 15yrs...
I'll think of more later..
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depending on his requirements:
the macbook pro is more for 'heavy lifting' applications like video editing, application development, etc
the macbook air more for run of the mill word processing, spreadsheeting, web browsing, email, etc.
macbook pro's tend to have higher spec processors, ram, hdd's, etc.
torrents abound, but are not as prevelant.
kogan's would be overseas stock, and thus may have issues with warranty. i would stick with buying from the australian apple store. look for the education discount store here:
http://store.apple.com/au-hed (http://store.apple.com/au-hed)
discount is not huge, but better than nothing...
pity he doesn't want a surface. surface pro 3 is a beast.
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I've bought both my iMac and Macbook Pro from JB Hi-Fi.
They tend to get offers on every so often and seem to be one of the few places that ever has offers on Apple stuff.
Make sure you get the extra Apple Care warranty.
I know it's painful paying for it in the first place but it is good.
It gives you access to 24/7 trouble shooting but they will replace anything that is needed, no questions asked.
I have it and it's paid for itself a few times over. I had the screen replaced on my iMac and they even came to my home to do it. Didn't cost me a cent.
One of the few warranties that are definitely worth the money.
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depending on his requirements:
the macbook pro is more for 'heavy lifting' applications like video editing, application development, etc
the macbook air more for run of the mill word processing, spreadsheeting, web browsing, email, etc.
macbook pro's tend to have higher spec processors, ram, hdd's, etc.
torrents abound, but are not as prevelant.
kogan's would be overseas stock, and thus may have issues with warranty. i would stick with buying from the australian apple store. look for the education discount store here:
http://store.apple.com/au-hed (http://store.apple.com/au-hed)
discount is not huge, but better than nothing...
pity he doesn't want a surface. surface pro 3 is a beast.
good info.... just looking at the (http://www.cedmagic.com/home/apple.gif) store, 12mths interest free etc... sound appealing.
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how much space does the OS and say Office take up - is 128gig a fair sized HD on them?
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3 - Software for them, where do you get it, are there torrents for it? as I have a distinct allergy to paying for software and have only bought one program in the last 15yrs...
I'll think of more later..
I have the same allergy, I am exclusive Mac and I have all the top line programs I used to run on windoze ;)
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how much space does the OS and say Office take up - is 128gig a fair sized HD on them?
i think 128G would be more than adequate for operating system and office...
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Oh and welcome to trouble free computing ;D
Even with all the sites a teenage boy will visit you won't have any issues lol
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I have the same allergy, I am exclusive Mac and I have all the top line programs I used to run on windoze ;)
so they are burning to DVD at moment and being posted??
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so they are burning to DVD at moment and being posted??
or you could just get a copy of vmware fusion and run both windows and mac... one three-finger swipe to change OS's...
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or you could just get a copy of vmware fusion and run both windows and mac... one three-finger swipe to change OS's...
****ed if I know......
One of them 2E was the last one I sat infront of in 1981
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****ed if I know......
One of them 2E was the last one I sat infront of in 1981
vmware fusion sits on top of the osx install and allows you to then install a copy of windows as well on the same hdd, then you can use a swipe on the trackpad to move between OS's...
http://www.vmware.com/au/products/fusion (http://www.vmware.com/au/products/fusion)
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****ed if I know......
One of them 2E was the last one I sat infront of in 1981
Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego.
That's all I know about apple.
Sent from my GT-I9507 using Tapatalk
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Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego.
That's all I know about apple.
Sent from my GT-I9507 using Tapatalk
aahhh, memories... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEB9M_1XOP0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEB9M_1XOP0)
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so they are burning to DVD at moment and being posted??
You would need to tell me what software you intend to use.
In some cases I no longer use the old windows software because I like the Mac version better.
All Mac software is packaged as a dmg files, there are no executables as such. You can burn to DVD if you wish.
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Buy a bigger disk than 128GB, this is way to small IMO. The 512GB SSD is a good way to go, reasonable capacity, excellent disk performance. I wouldn't buy an Air unless size is an issue.
I've found Mac hardware and OS to extremely reliable. Good thing is if you have an issue you can go to your local Apple store and get them to fix it for you, free of charge.
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And you get a free OS everytime they release a new one ;D
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Buy a bigger disk than 128GB, this is way to small IMO. The 512GB SSD is a good way to go, reasonable capacity, excellent disk performance. I wouldn't buy an Air unless size is an issue.
I've found Mac hardware and OS to extremely reliable. Good thing is if you have an issue you can go to your local Apple store and get them to fix it for you, free of charge.
depending on requirements, i've found that 128GB is adequate for most student usage. more storage is always great, but the 512GB SSD is a $800 option on the entry level macbook pro...
i would rather use that $800 to choose the 'retina' screen option instead.
you can always get more storage via usb or thunderbolt, but the screen is for the life of the laptop.
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depending on requirements, i've found that 128GB is adequate for most student usage. more storage is always great, but the 512GB SSD is a $800 option on the entry level macbook pro...
i would rather use that $800 to choose the 'retina' screen option instead.
you can always get more storage via usb or thunderbolt, but the screen is for the life of the laptop.
do they use normal SSD's??
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aahhh, memories... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEB9M_1XOP0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEB9M_1XOP0)
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/download/Where-in-the-World-is-Carmen-Sandiego-,0301-45231.html (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/download/Where-in-the-World-is-Carmen-Sandiego-,0301-45231.html)
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If you need an office suite just download Open office, its free .
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do they use normal SSD's??
non-retina macbook pro uses ssd's (as an option), retina pro's use pci-e flash storage. same concept, better performance from pci-e...
http://store.apple.com/au/buy-mac/macbook-pro (http://store.apple.com/au/buy-mac/macbook-pro)
pci-e is non-replaceable....
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how ****ed school is, work is part of a global pricing scheme for Dells' which I can get a Very good price on since our Rep owes me...
anyway call the school IT person and apparently they cant use HP/Dells/anything.they.dont.get.a.backhander.from cause they need IE11, Office 2010 pro, acrobat.. to which I replied - yea they come with all that.. to which the reply was "no still no good as we only have 1 image due to drivers"...
so I asked what bout the Apples, he said we have different images for those.
so has to be an apple newer than 2010.. maybe crime converters is the go...
using Yosamite or something like that ???
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I got an ebay email today on 11inch Airs for $899.
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Gotta do the same for the eldest, they used ipad for years 7&8 but now need MacBook whatever for year 9 as well as the iPad, still waiting to find out which one she requires from the school but guess what she's getting for Xmas!
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What bout 2nd hand surface pro 2 ? Been no mention of it so far
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What bout 2nd hand surface pro 2 ? Been no mention of it so far
rather not if I don't have to...
you should see the piss poor spec the windows machines are!
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Just get a good laptop, install a linux ubuntu distro, install vmware, then install windows and osx under that, best of every world, you can keep everything upto date easily, windowz will run a lot faster on a lower specked machine and no viruses :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
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Just get a good laptop, install a linux ubuntu distro, install vmware, then install windows and osx under that, best of every world, you can keep everything upto date easily, windowz will run a lot faster on a lower specked machine and no viruses :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
already blown the download limit this month :( 10 days of capped interweb....
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already blown the download limit this month :( 10 days of capped interweb....
Ah's got 7 distros on disks ;D ;D you wanna have a look ???
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I got the sh1+s with dell couple of years ago and bought some Lenovo T series LTs , only beef so far is the rubber feet came off mine. Rock solid performer and good price.
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I bought a MacBook Air and I love it. Took it through our trip and loaded my photos on it. More than happy with it. I am leaning towards a Mac stand alone for the desk. I bought it at Dick Smiths and the extended warranty. Just need to learn how to use it.
Fuji
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Ah's got 7 distros on disks ;D ;D you wanna have a look ???
burn me a copy...
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I got the sh1+s with dell couple of years ago and bought some Lenovo T series LTs , only beef so far is the rubber feet came off mine. Rock solid performer and good price.
we are on a global pricing program so the prices aren't bad ... and the 2-3 times I've had an issue (always user ****ups) they are there the next day with new everything required - motherboard, screen etc...
anyway the only Lenovo models acceptable is i3's'.....
ThinkPad Yoga 11e Recommended (WARNNG: DO NOT BUY THE GOOGLE CHROMEBOOK VERSION, IT MUST BE WINDOWS)
ThinkPad X240 Recommended
ThinkPad 12.5' Yoga with Digitiser Pen
or Acer
Travelmate B115
Travelmate B115 Pentium Touch Recommended
Travelmate P645
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I bought a MacBook Air and I love it. Took it through our trip and loaded my photos on it. More than happy with it. I am leaning towards a Mac stand alone for the desk. I bought it at Dick Smiths and the extended warranty. Just need to learn how to use it.
Fuji
Come on Wayne.. come back... its not too late to come back to the good team..
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Surface Pro 3
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do they use normal SSD's??
The Pros use PCIe SSDs - here is are images of what hey look like:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=apple+pcie+ssd&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Lw5vVNnEOcb4mAWL9ID4AQ&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1302&bih=767 (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=apple+pcie+ssd&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Lw5vVNnEOcb4mAWL9ID4AQ&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1302&bih=767)
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Surface Pro 3
thought about it, but be my luck they'd say its not suitable.. also no great prices on em yet :(
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Dick Smith regularly have 10% off Apple Macs and fairly often either 12% or 14%. You have to be on the lookout though as the bigger discounts are usually after hours online only.
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I'm in education and testing a Thinkpad 12.5" Yoga atm and it's really a nice unit. I usually use a MacBook Pro retina with 128gb and it's no where near enough. 256gb minimum I think. Lenovo have an excellent reputation in the business world. MacBook battery is slightly better. New "broad well" Intel CPUs are on the way early next year if you can wait. Otherwise I would go Lenovo or Mac but in 256gb ssd and 8gb ram if you can, with 3 year extended warranty a must.
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Dick smith have speacials on this weekend Bird
GG
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I'm in education and testing a Thinkpad 12.5" Yoga atm and it's really a nice unit. I usually use a MacBook Pro retina with 128gb and it's no where near enough. 256gb minimum I think. Lenovo have an excellent reputation in the business world. MacBook battery is slightly better. New "broad well" Intel CPUs are on the way early next year if you can wait. Otherwise I would go Lenovo or Mac but in 256gb ssd and 8gb ram if you can, with 3 year extended warranty a must.
yea, I'd rather overspec than under... Since you like your Yoga, I'll take the Pro off ya hands for a slab :P
Garrick, thanks for that mate.
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We went mac 7yrs ago.
I may have mentioned this once before;
Our Mac 24" is a 2009 model. The only time its been reformatted is when it kept freezing. After the reformat it kept doing it. Then I found the spare wireless keyboard in a draw with a key held down telling it to type HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH forever.
Poor old Mac copped the blame. Just a warning. Dont have an affair if you also have an iphone. As soon as I walk in the door the photos come up on the mac :'(
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Love my Macbook Air laptop.
Just bought an iMac 27" desktop which is even better.
I found JB had this year's models cheaper than what Harvey Norman had last years models on sale for.
I bought MS Office for Mac for the laptop so I had Word etc. I won't bother doing this for the iMac as the bundled software has Pages, which will read & write doc files as well as Numbers , replacing Excel and Keynote instead of powerpoint.
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I brought the daughter an apple Mac pro, with the apple care - yes I've used it, hdd failure they sorted it out easily.
If I was doing it again I would buy the MacBook air 13" with the most ram / hdd I could put in it.
It's an easy decision - lighter, starts quick & they can close the lid and not crap a hdd.
Battery will last for the day.
If you do go for the MacBook pro a 13" is large enough, but again it must have a SSD in it so he can close the lid & go to the next class.
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I feel so dirty.... filthy ickypoo dirty.. he has his *THING*... dunno if I'll let it on the network here yet
I cant see why iSheep are sheep..
The price of any accessory is ****ing ridiculous.. $90 for an iMouse??? $100 for a iDvDDrive ??? talk about come in suckers
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I feel so dirty.... filthy ickypoo dirty.. he has his *THING*... dunno if I'll let it on the network here yet
I cant see why iSheep are sheep..
The price of any accessory is ****ing ridiculous.. $90 for an iMouse??? $100 for a iDvDDrive ??? talk about come in suckers
Lol it's iSuckers ;D
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I haven't read right through this thread but if anyone hasn't already stated that with a mac you can have the best of both worlds and install windows on a separate partition and boot into whatever OS suits your mood or requirements.
I've been doing this for years on my 2007 white mac book.
They are better made and thought out than alot of the competition too.
Some other brands touchscreen models are looking good though but the duel boot is a massive advantage
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Another vote for the Surface Pro 3, it's only new but very impressed so far.
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I haven't read right through this thread but if anyone hasn't already stated that with a mac you can have the best of both worlds and install windows on a separate partition and boot into whatever OS suits your mood or requirements.
I've been doing this for years on my 2007 white mac book.
They are better made and thought out than alot of the competition too.
Some other brands touchscreen models are looking good though but the duel boot is a massive advantage
I've been doing that since linux "mepis 3" came out and for FREE ;D ;D ;D
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I've been doing that since linux "mepis 3" came out and for FREE ;D ;D ;D
So have I even triple boot but mac books are the Shit.
You can buy those latex "keyboard condoms for macs but nothing else (saved my mac from several spoilage over the years, can get hard she'll cases for them.
You don't have to use apple specific replacement parts I've got 8 gig of ram I installed my self and a 1tb solid state hard drive and it's still a good machine running the latest version of osx