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Title: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: callmejoe on August 17, 2014, 05:32:11 PM
Now I've been thinking about this and even had the discussion over a beer or 4.

But when or how does a 4wd start getting called a "truck".
I mean a 4wd is just that isn't it? Just as a truck is what ACA tv programs  just rave on about?

Just a question?

Joe


Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Terry W4 on August 17, 2014, 05:50:30 PM
My understanding is that for a number of reasons they are referred to as 'light trucks'.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GeoffA on August 17, 2014, 06:02:31 PM
IMO, it's a complete toss to refer to any wagon-bodied 4WD as a truck, but plenty do..... ::)

Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: D4D on August 17, 2014, 06:06:20 PM
Anything manual transmission with a 4.2 diesel and 4 coils is a truck :laugh:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: jk on August 17, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
I think it's a Yank thing ( American ) :4x4: 
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GeoffA on August 17, 2014, 06:07:45 PM
Anything manual transmission with a 4.2 diesel and 4 coils is a truck :laugh:

 ;D ;D ;D

A lot closer than most, but still not a truck....IMO.... :P
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Foo on August 17, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
I think it's a Yank thing ( American ) :4x4:

Yep!  ::)

Foo
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Teabag on August 17, 2014, 06:26:28 PM
If it drives like a truck, handles like a truck and sounds like a truck? It must be a truck.......:-)
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: callmejoe on August 17, 2014, 06:38:54 PM
If it drives like a truck, handles like a truck and sounds like a truck? It must be a truck.......:-)

Arrrrrrrr.  But drives like a truck. Handles like a truck. Sound like a big diesel.

But my wife calls it a barge... or if shes being nice the Titanic.

Still a 4wd isn't it?
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: lino6 on August 17, 2014, 06:40:02 PM
When you are trying to compensate for something, its called a truck   >:D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Woodsie on August 17, 2014, 06:41:33 PM
Really, who cares, we call them what we like >:D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GUEY on August 17, 2014, 06:51:30 PM
If Landcruiser it's a car.
If Landrover it's a waste
If Patrol it's a 4by
If Iveco daily, Unimog etc it's a truck
If Jeep it's a piece of ....
Simple
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: scarps on August 17, 2014, 06:54:27 PM
But when or how does a 4wd start getting called a "truck".
Just a question?

Joe
[/quote]when I type the word 'truck' as opposed to '4WD', that's when:-)

As opposed to a Jeep that will only ever be a Jeep
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Mace on August 17, 2014, 07:02:35 PM
IMO, it's a complete toss to refer to any wagon-bodied 4WD as a truck, but plenty do..... ::)

Agreed.  ;D

Trucks have trays or tubs.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: CRW on August 17, 2014, 07:17:59 PM

Agreed.  ;D

Trucks have trays or tubs.

 :cheers:

A B double doesn't have a tray or tub that you are describing and I am sure that is a Truck, take away the trailers and leave the prime mover, no tray or tub and it's still a truck


Cheers
Carl
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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: swanny on August 17, 2014, 07:21:21 PM
A 4by is for fun, a truck is for work........I know which one ill take.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Mace on August 17, 2014, 07:25:50 PM
A B double doesn't have a tray or tub that you are describing and I am sure that is a Truck, take away the trailers and leave the prime mover, no tray or tub and it's still a truck


Cheers
Carl
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My definition is for the issue in question, when does a 4by get called a truck. Not into semantics.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: CRW on August 17, 2014, 07:27:28 PM

My definition is for the issue in question, when does a 4by get called a truck. Not into semantics.

 :cheers:

Call it what ever you like there is no definition except for the RTA definition for semantics


Cheers
Carl
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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Mace on August 17, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Call it what ever you like there is no definition except for the RTA definition for semantics


Cheers
Carl
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Lighten up, this is a fun thread not for point scoring.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: CRW on August 17, 2014, 07:44:01 PM

Lighten up, this is a fun thread not for point scoring.

Pardon me, read your last thread


Cheers
Carl
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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: swanny on August 17, 2014, 07:50:36 PM
popcorn were are you....hahahaha..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: heath74 on August 17, 2014, 08:01:03 PM
If it's leaf sprung, it's a truck!
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: staghornflat on August 17, 2014, 08:07:26 PM
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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: scarps on August 17, 2014, 08:07:44 PM
Lighten up, this is a fun thread not for point scoring.
ok then, a 4wd has an extensive 12v dual battery system with correctly rated cable
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Bad Scott on August 17, 2014, 08:13:06 PM
popcorn were are you....hahahaha..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:cup:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: lino6 on August 17, 2014, 08:18:53 PM
ok then, a 4wd has an extensive 12v dual battery system with correctly rated cable

And a tow bar with rated shackles.....
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: scarps on August 17, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
And a tow bar with rated shackles.....
and not made in China
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Teabag on August 17, 2014, 08:21:56 PM
Well, call me a toss, call me what you like, I call my Patrol a Truck. I know many blokes that have female names for there vehicles and honestly don't see the difference. Has nothing to do with ego, or over compensating for anything, it's just a term of endearment to your pride and joy....Call your car, truck or princess what you like.......It's there to be enjoyed.....:-)

Love my truck....:-)
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: lino6 on August 17, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
Well, call me a toss, call me what you like, I call my Patrol a Truck. I know many blokes that have female names for there vehicles and honestly don't see the difference. Has nothing to do with ego, or over compensating for anything, it's just a term of endearment to your pride and joy....Call your car, truck or princess what you like.......It's there to be enjoyed.....:-)

Love my truck....:-)

You are entitled to call your positions what ever you like!

I used to have a ute I called HOS. Spent more time fixing it I thought it was a heap of .... something.....

I like to drive trucks, wouldn't like to have to pay to rego one though....
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: scarps on August 17, 2014, 08:25:28 PM
Well, call me a toss, call me what you like, I call my Patrol a Truck. I know many blokes that have female names for there vehicles and honestly don't see the difference. Has nothing to do with ego, or over compensating for anything, it's just a term of endearment to your pride and joy....Call your car, truck or princess what you like.......It's there to be enjoyed.....:-)

Love my truck....:-)
agree, who really gives a truck if you call your car a 4WD
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Swannie on August 17, 2014, 08:28:19 PM
For Truck sake.... My cruiser is Tank  >:D

Swannie
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Bad Scott on August 17, 2014, 08:50:01 PM
For Truck sake.... My cruiser is Tank  >:D

Swannie
And his name is frank :cup: :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: SteveandViv on August 17, 2014, 09:04:25 PM
IMO, it's a complete toss to refer to any wagon-bodied 4WD as a truck, but plenty do..... ::)

I agree. It is a W@nk to refer to your 4WD as a truck - IMO of course ;D I would rather describe my 4WD and a 4WD anyway. Like I said, just my opinion.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: 2impulsiv on August 17, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
My 5 year old son calls my 76 series the "work truck", but he watches too much foxtel! ;)
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: grafy82 on August 17, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
If it's leaf sprung, it's a truck!

My Sierra has leaf springs front and rear, does that make it a b-double  ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: cheif carlos on August 17, 2014, 10:10:31 PM
If it's leaf sprung, it's a truck!

So a unimog is a ute 4by? I wish it was then I could justify buying one!
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: CRW on August 17, 2014, 10:13:08 PM

My Sierra has leaf springs front and rear, does that make it a b-double  ;D

Definitely


Cheers
Carl
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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: 2Psinapatrol on August 17, 2014, 10:56:16 PM
I fix trucks at work.
I drive the patrol to work.
Easy :)


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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: edz on August 17, 2014, 11:07:12 PM
Thinking if your the one sitting in a little jellybean car  the size of an egg and looking up under the front end of something three times wider and higher ... monstering you with a big steel bullbar, lights and arials etc  etc all over the place ... the word Truck might spring to mind ..  ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Spartan on August 17, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
I agree. It is a W@nk to refer to your 4WD as a truck - IMO of course ;D I would rather describe my 4WD and a 4WD anyway. Like I said, just my opinion.

Agree X100

A truck is a truck. A ute is a ute. A wagon is a wagon..... need I go on?
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Brumbypt on August 17, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
in america a truck is a ute, big or small.


4x4, or suv for a wagon.



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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: whitey1 on August 18, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
Yep, and the last time I looked, I don't live in America. Thankfully!
A 4by can be called a truck if its a ute AND bigger than a F350.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on August 18, 2014, 08:27:41 AM
in america a truck is a ute, big or small.


4x4, or suv for a wagon.



Sent by telegram stop

I thought they are called pick ups ? Yet referred to as a truck by some. Kind of like here.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: gclan on August 18, 2014, 08:28:26 AM
I occasionally referred to our Defender as a truck. It was big and felt like a truck to drive, and had nothing to do with over compensating (I don't want anything bigger than anyone else's, trust me ;))

Truck was just a word.

Cheers
Karen


Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Brumbypt on August 18, 2014, 08:40:42 AM
The full name  for pickup, is PICKUP TRUCK, so some ppl call them trucks others call them pickup so both are right.

Thats why monster trucks got their name.
tuff trucks
etc etc




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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Chris J on August 18, 2014, 08:50:22 AM
My Oka’s a truck with the GVM at 5.5 ton.  Registration Certificate states Body type “truck”. My other 4x4 is a Mazda BT-50. In Thailand the locals call it a Bangkok Truck so I guess I own two trucks now!

Regards, Chris.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 18, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
There was a TOYota  Land Cruiser on the Bruce Hwy yesterday that was laying on its side in a mud puddle.

I'm sure I heard one of the 6 blokes standing around it pointing to it say "it was TRUCKED", so I guess, its a truck, cause da guy said so.

It was there when went down to Brissie with other Jap crap (Toyota and Nissan 4 WDS) packed around it.

It was no surprise, when it was still there on the return trip, but a bloke in Jeep  ;D had turned up by then, so I bet it got towed back over on its wheels and out the mud with some good ol  Jeep power.

JEEP POWER.... :cup:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Bad Scott on August 18, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
Jeep power. LOL. Where's the thumbs down
Sent from .................
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: cm4x4nut on August 18, 2014, 11:40:57 AM
The 200 is called the "truck" in our family because this makes it easier to differentiate between the two vehicles.

Wifes vehicle is called the "car", mine is the "truck"


...........however I think there are bigger issues in the world at the moment  ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: lino6 on August 18, 2014, 01:08:45 PM



...........however I think there are bigger issues in the world at the moment  ;D

X shiploads!
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Steffo1 on August 18, 2014, 02:07:36 PM
Not  "Truck" or "Ute", it's..... "The 'Tilley"
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: alnjan on August 18, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Here's my 4by   

http://store.arb.com.au/collections/kids/products/fourby-plush-toy (http://store.arb.com.au/collections/kids/products/fourby-plush-toy)

Who really cares why people call their vehicle what ever they call it.  Just as long as it is used
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: froggy on August 18, 2014, 07:42:05 PM
Yeah I don't understand it. I have both a real truck and a Landcruiser, nothing similar about them at all.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: whitey1 on August 19, 2014, 07:23:16 AM
Haha. After posting yesterday on this, on the way to work I pulled up behind a VW Amerock that had the private plates "ME TRUK"! Couldn't help but laugh.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: callmejoe on August 19, 2014, 09:22:41 AM
Haha. After posting yesterday on this, on the way to work I pulled up behind a VW Amerock that had the private plates "ME TRUK"! Couldn't help but laugh.

He MUST of had something to prove.

Ha
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: kylarama on August 19, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
Does this mean horse people get all precious when a ute is referred to as a workhorse...

My partner has referred to my Hilux as a truck for years due to its ride and I've been known to call it the 'work truck' from time to time.

Mate had a flat black 60 Series with a 350 chev, body/suspension lift, 35" muds, diff locks and extensive homemade barwork.  Everyone called it 'Truckasaurus'


Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: oldmate on August 19, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
Who cares? It's the same as all the people on here who clearly have CARAVANS but call them a camper or crossover? What the, hard walls hard roof, it's a caravan.  >:D >:D >:D

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: NewieCamper on August 19, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
If it's got a diesel and it sounds like a diesel, it's a truck. Even if it is a Hatchback.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: KeithB on August 20, 2014, 12:07:07 AM
If you can lift the spare wheel on your own, it's not a truck.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GUEY on August 20, 2014, 05:13:23 AM
Who cares? It's the same as all the people on here who clearly have CARAVANS but call them a camper or crossover? What the, hard walls hard roof, it's a caravan.  >:D >:D >:D

 ;D ;D

But but but, Jayco call them a camper.   So there... 8)
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Footloose on August 20, 2014, 05:51:14 AM
It must be a yank thing cause when i had my F150 it was always
the F truck.It was a great touring vehicle and sometimes wished
I still had it.Love the new F Trucks that are being engineered for
Australia.

Cheers Foootloose
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GGV8Cruza on August 20, 2014, 06:56:23 AM
I used to drive a truck

I still do

Its the kids fault and they like to "holiday and explore" in the truck, as they call it

GG
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: speewa158 on August 20, 2014, 07:21:12 AM
Mercy Sakes Alive   looks like we got ourselves a Convoy     :4x4: ::)     :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: lino6 on August 20, 2014, 07:54:30 AM
Mercy Sakes Alive   looks like we got ourselves a Convoy     :4x4: ::)     :cheers:
10 4 big daddy braker braker!
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on August 21, 2014, 07:07:35 AM
If you can lift the spare wheel on your own, it's not a truck.

That's gold  :cup:  :cup:

I hate it when people call my Hilux a truck. My Mother is the worst for it, and she should know better  >:(

Whilst on a rant, other things that piss me off,

A "Bathurst Monaro," "Aussie Muscle Car," "Holden Styleside,"

Each to their own though, call it what you want. I get called all sorts of things, daily. ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: gronk on August 21, 2014, 11:03:24 AM
Who cares? It's the same as all the people on here who clearly have CARAVANS but call them a camper or crossover? What the, hard walls hard roof, it's a caravan.  >:D >:D >:D

 ;D ;D

So, the Ultimate is a caravan eh !!    ;D


Only turns into a camper when you fold it out !!
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Bad Scott on August 21, 2014, 11:39:50 AM
So, the Ultimate is a caravan eh !!    ;D


Only turns into a camper when you fold it out !!
Yep. ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: oldmate on August 21, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
So, the Ultimate is a caravan eh !!    ;D


Only turns into a camper when you fold it out !!

 Umm no. It's just the ULTIMATE  :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: whitey1 on August 21, 2014, 06:07:18 PM
I've never heard a 4wd being called a lorry. I wonder why?
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: lino6 on August 21, 2014, 06:13:43 PM
I've never heard a 4wd being called a lorry. I wonder why?

I know a bloke with a 4wd called Laurie, does that count......!
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GeoffA on August 21, 2014, 06:14:50 PM
I know a bloke with a 4wd called Laurie, does that count......!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Hairs on August 21, 2014, 06:21:41 PM
Who really cares why people call their vehicle what ever they call it.  Just as long as it is used
Agree mate.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GeoffA on August 21, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
I used to drive a truck proper car

I still do now drive a bread box

 :P
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Hairs on August 21, 2014, 06:29:45 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iIEyYaOh1z8/U0CyTEbkwfI/AAAAAAAAakU/h99Mm2TRms0/s1600/13473_569032736464380_1064852260_n.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l2FzeaD4HyM/TitZO5lmjlI/AAAAAAAAAGg/WMcHPXbgcws/s1600/leather+dress.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: speewa158 on August 21, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
Hairs   Can you confirm  " New Truck " . Thanks Mate  :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Sawed-Off on August 22, 2014, 06:28:38 PM
Mine goes "wooh!" between gears on the up change, I have to down change about 5 gears going up hills, I have to climb up into the cab, I have a tray, and I tow things. I don't care what you guys call it, but I call it my truck.  :angel:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Garfish on August 24, 2014, 07:52:14 AM
When you also need a heavy vehicle license. ,

Or you want to.   
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: oldmate on August 24, 2014, 07:56:31 AM
Apparently when it's a Colorado.

http://www.holden.com.au/cars/colorado (http://www.holden.com.au/cars/colorado)
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Brumbypt on March 09, 2015, 06:28:09 AM
The USA term for truck is short for PICKUP TRUCK, just like we have shortened UTE from Utility vehicle..

I quite like the calling a UTE either a ute or a pickup, cos thats what you do, you go to the hardware etc and pickup stuff and put it in the back.

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Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: speewa158 on March 09, 2015, 06:35:38 AM
What is the question  ???  Trucked if l know .    ??? ??? :-[           :cheers:
For Trucks sake whats the Trucking answer   , l Gots to Trucking Well Know :cheers:
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Hewy54 on March 09, 2015, 06:53:01 AM
Did a 4WD course years ago to get a permit to drive in the cooper basin mining area. The first thing the instructor did was to emphasise that the 80 series we were using was a truck. It may look like a car in the position of the steering wheel and the level of comfort, but due to handling it was a truck. If you try to drive it like a car you would get into trouble.
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: GeoffA on March 09, 2015, 06:55:49 AM
Did a 4WD course years ago to get a permit to drive in the cooper basin mining area. The first thing the instructor did was to emphasise that the 80 series we were using was a truck. It may look like a car in the position of the steering wheel and the level of comfort, but due to handling it was a truck. If you try to drive it like a car you would get into trouble.

On that basis, an Austin A40 would also be considered a truck........
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 09, 2015, 06:59:37 AM
On that basis, an Austin A40 would also be considered a truck........

And a Landrover a tractor.  :D
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: edz on March 09, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
And  Jeep a " stick " unless you move it its not going anywhere ... And the aboriginal word for Jeep is ..... " Boomerang "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ac8jZakNXk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ac8jZakNXk)
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: duggie on March 09, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
It must be a common thing in North Queensland, I do refer to most 4x4's as trucks. I think it is something that has been passed down from generations and is still common.

It is a bit like when is an Esky not an Esky, or is it a chilly bin ? 
Or a suit case is not a suit case in my generation up here , we call them ports.

Must be because we don't have daylight savings and are in the dark for an extra hour each day. ;D me thinks.

cheers duggie
Title: Re: When does a 4wd start getting called a truck?
Post by: speewa158 on March 09, 2015, 10:12:31 AM
doggie
           There are some strange things that happen in FNQ  :cheers: