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Title: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: cheif carlos on July 05, 2014, 01:33:37 PM
Does anyone know where or how you can get an old air tank about the size of the ones you find on the side of a train.

I want to make an "Ozpig" style fire tin to have in the backyard with ability to use as BBQ or like. Main reason I want a train size is I can use it for two, has a thick wall so that when hot will radiate heat well and fire wood is no issue to me.

I did have the chance to get one but at the time did not have the interest to make one.

Cheers

Jason
Title: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: scarps on July 05, 2014, 01:52:26 PM
What about using one of the larger domestic gas bottles?
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Malcolm Tugless on July 05, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
From off the side of a train ?
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Jon on July 05, 2014, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: Malcolm Tugless on July 05, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
From off the side of a train ?

Brakes are overrated anyway.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Bobsan on July 05, 2014, 05:31:53 PM
Mains pressure water heater tank.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: cheif carlos on July 05, 2014, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: Bobsan on July 05, 2014, 05:31:53 PM
Mains pressure water heater tank.
How thick are they also thinking about using as a forge so would have to withstand considerable heat

Quote from: Malcolm Tugless on July 05, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
From off the side of a train ?
Yes I was working on the track a couple of weeks ago and watching the freight trains go past reminded me and yes Malcolm brakes are overrated >:D

Quote from: scarps on July 05, 2014, 01:52:26 PM
What about using one of the larger domestic gas bottles?
If I was using one of these I would consider a "decanting?" bottle size from serves.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Bobsan on July 05, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
No problems with the thickness as they are a pressure vessel, they have been used as outdoor heaters, spits etc
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Alfa12 on July 05, 2014, 06:23:37 PM
I know the older Solarhart and some of the Rheem water tanks used to be 2.8mm steel.


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Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
What about a forklift gas bottle?
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on July 05, 2014, 06:38:12 PM
Or an out of  date Gas bottle from a vehicle?

Your local Vehicle Gas, fitter, should know where to find them.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Mrs smith on July 05, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Visit your local tip shop, you might have to go more than once but you'll probably take something home with you each visit.   :D
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: cheif carlos on July 05, 2014, 06:55:10 PM
Local scrap yard might be a good idea

I want to rule out gas bottles not big enough in diameter
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: loanrangie on July 05, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
Quote from: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
What about a forklift gas bottle?

Most fork bottles are aluminium.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: loanrangie on July 05, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
Most fork bottles are aluminium.
The 1 I have is definitely steel

Think most of the metro suppliers use aluminium but us country folk still use mostly steel.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: D4D on July 05, 2014, 07:51:20 PM
Quote from: Alfa12 on July 05, 2014, 06:23:37 PM
I know the older Solarhart and some of the Rheem water tanks used to be 2.8mm steel.

I have one of those sitting on the roof, free to good home.
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: speewa158 on July 05, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
Ceeezzzzz it D4D in Vic & BHG in NSW for unused project material . lt amazes me the crap stored in there sheds
l have used an old LPG gas can from a car that cost me Sweet FA . Cut a lid in after the gas was washed out & it sat full of water for 2 weeks . Out with the angle grinder , not loud bang , & away we go . Now l can cook with 2 X 14 inch Camp ovens if required . Works as a heater after that  :cheers:
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 08:49:42 PM
Quote from: speewa158 on July 05, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
Ceeezzzzz it D4D in Vic & BHG in NSW for unused project material . lt amazes me the crap stored in there sheds
l have used an old LPG gas can from a car that cost me Sweet FA . Cut a lid in after the gas was washed out & it sat full of water for 2 weeks . Out with the angle grinder , not loud bang , & away we go . Now l can cook with 2 X 14 inch Camp ovens if required . Works as a heater after that  :cheers:

:worthles:
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: scarps on July 05, 2014, 08:58:35 PM

Quote from: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 08:49:42 PM
:worthles:
speewa doesn't have a camera......
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 09:00:19 PM
Quote from: scarps on July 05, 2014, 08:58:35 PM
speewa doesn't have a camera......

That could be a problem then! Strikes me as the sorta bloke that doesn't mind a "flash" though....
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: MarkGU on July 05, 2014, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: lino6 on July 05, 2014, 09:00:19 PM
That could be a problem then! Strikes me as the sorta bloke that doesn't mind a "flash" though....
not sure about  a FLASH but ive seen him CRASH...er nose dive into the dirt   >:D
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Mace on July 05, 2014, 10:20:28 PM
Like this?

They are big!
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Mace on July 05, 2014, 10:22:30 PM
Or even bigger!

Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Mace on July 05, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
Or freakin humongous !

Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: cheif carlos on July 06, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: Mace on July 05, 2014, 10:20:28 PM
Like this?

They are big!
No the one I was able to get was off an electric locomotive it was about 1.8m long 800mm in diameter
Quote from: Mace on July 05, 2014, 10:22:30 PM
Or even bigger!


Yes about this size but not with hot rivets as this would be about 12mm thick - welded one would come in around 6-8mm thick wouldn't 't take as long to heat up
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: speewa158 on July 06, 2014, 08:34:08 AM
Quote from: Mace on July 05, 2014, 10:20:28 PM
Like this?

They are big!

Well Done Mace  That tank is the ideal thing & it already has the lid set out to follow the weld line . At the top drill 8 holes to mount the hinges . Then finish the cut  remove the panel to fit the hinges . Weld on 2 horse shoes 1 either side so the lid wont fall in to far  & grind back the sharp edges you have created cutting the hole in the 1st place  . Cut some draft holes in the bottom sides so it can breath , chuck in wood , grab  :cheers:  Enjoy  :cheers:
Title: Re: Old air tank wanted - about train size
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on July 06, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
 :worthles:

It's not workin unless it's glowin!!!  :cheers: :D