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Title: swags......
Post by: Mako on April 12, 2014, 08:17:00 AM

Hey guys,
              Was having a debate the other day at work about swag types...... basically traditional vs dome swags...... My argument was that it doesn't matter what type you roll with as long as you are getting out there and going bush, that's all that matters.....

But in any case it would be good test the waters here and get peoples opinions and pros and cons on both types?????

Cheers
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Wato on April 12, 2014, 09:06:31 AM
Mako
I used a traitional type swag for years and my pet hate was mosquitos on the face. (yes I know there are types of screens). Then I bought a dome swag and I will never go back. Only personal preferece but up here it makes it so much more comfortable. Oh... and a few rums before bed helps.

Craig
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: fishfinder on April 12, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
I prefer dome swags but it is a bit of a challenge crawling through the front head first and then trying to turn around once you hit the end. It only happens after a few bevies around the camp fire which is probably every trip away with the swag.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Andrew_C on April 12, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
Dome if it is hot, cold, or wet, otherwise my flat swag for ease of pickup and set up( kick out on ground)
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Barrabart on April 12, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
I've only ever had the flat swag, got this type originally because it could be used anywhere...... rolled out inside the house for a mate to use, used inside a tent and it doesn't take up much more room than a sleeping bag etc.......... however if I was using a swag purely for sleeping outside in the scrub I would be going with the best quality dome type I could buy.
Reason being,
1- Peace of mind to keep the bities out, besides the obvious snakes etc, most parts of Aus do have some nasty kreepy krawlies that  can ruin a trip away.
2- Keep the canvas off your body, meaning on hot nights etc u can sleep with nothing touching u, ie; sheet, blanket canvas...
3- Being able to roll over without upsetting the canvas covering you, also being able to roll over without all the noise canvas makes.
4- If it rains plenty through the night and ur in a flat swag, rain is going to find it's way in, unless u have somehow managed to be sleeping with the canvas perfectly positioned for drainage.
5-And for me (being a big unit) u need a lot of canvas to go over me and allow enough to make up the extra to keep rain dew etc away from the mattress.
6 Sleeping in a flat swag I mostly wake up with the canvas thrown off and me pretty much lying flat with nothing between me and the sky except maybe the shirt I'm wearing or sheet blanket, and if it's a damp night or heavy dew this is normally wet.

Buy a dome swag.  ;D

Or for the best of both worlds, buy a good flat swag, and one of those swag/cot/stretcher thingos....... that way if u just want to kick the swag out flat, u still can...... if u want to go the full enclosure u can do that too.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Mako on April 12, 2014, 04:18:45 PM

I have a traditional/wanderer style single swag for me, it has apex holes so I can throw a pole on 1 or both ends, that keeps the canvas off me and allows for some good air flow in the heat.....

I roll with a king double dome when its me and mrs out bush.......
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Jason B on April 12, 2014, 04:30:35 PM
Buy once, buy for life. Get a Southern Cross Canvas Dome swag. I have tried most name brands, spend up too 100 nights a year in them and these are by far the best made. Made in Aus, using WCT canvas.
They cost a fortune BUT they also last. My Southern Cross is in better nick now after 6 years of use than some of my others were after two when used in similar conditions.

Some of my staff are trialling the cheap Kalkyne copies, however they are not lasting. I can see these being replaced with Southern Cross versions before they have had two years of use.

Jas.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Mako on April 12, 2014, 04:52:34 PM

The dream would be a southern cross swag, however it will have to wait as they are quite $$$$ like you said, and until the kids are a bit older it would not be getting the use that it deserves.....
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: D4D on April 12, 2014, 04:56:23 PM
I have a Burke & Wills Coolabah (dome), probably the next best down from Southern Cross. Made in AU with AU canvas. Took me a few trips to work out how to get in it efficiently, I was getting in via the end rather than the top. It is great for my limited used and will last a lifetime.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: westvic on April 13, 2014, 12:57:57 AM
I bought a dome swag for all of the reasons above.
However, half the time I cant be stuffed and just use it like a traditional swag (no poles) so have the best of both worlds   ;D
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Black Diamond on April 13, 2014, 10:15:03 AM
Love my dome swag. Couldn't stand the canvas against me and I'm a pretty warm sleeper. And as others have stated for water run off :cheers:
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Swannie on April 13, 2014, 10:19:18 AM
I have a Burke & Wills Coolabah (dome), probably the next best down from Southern Cross. Made in AU with AU canvas. Took me a few trips to work out how to get in it efficiently, I was getting in via the end rather than the top. It is great for my limited used and will last a lifetime.

X2 love my B&W collibah
Swannie
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Clouty on April 13, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
I bought a dome swag for all of the reasons above.
However, half the time I cant be stuffed and just use it like a traditional swag (no poles) so have the best of both worlds   ;D
X2
It all depends on the amount of nectar that gets drunk to me setting it up or not.. ;D
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Roo on April 13, 2014, 10:47:04 AM
Themissus and I have been living in a kulkyne queen dome on and off since hitting the road last June. We bought it mid 2012 for a five week cape trip. So far we've replaced the mattress with HD foam from Clarke rubber and have found one bit of stitching holding the mozzie mesh in has come undone. Fortunately it's at the top where it stays covered by the canvas.

Were happy with it.

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Title: Re: swags......
Post by: speedcomm on April 14, 2014, 04:54:33 PM
X10 for buying a quality swag and having it for life, I bought a Candy Canvas traditional swag 13 years ago and it is as good as new, I had to re water proof it a few years ago as the canvas was starting to weep when wet, but did it once and it has been fine since. The quality of workmanship is first rate, I like the traditional style and usually sleep with the canvas over my face and all zipped up, especially good in the cold. It has a built in mesh mozzie screen and has a fair bit of slack in the top with an eye so you can tie the head end up to a tree or car when raining to let the water run off properly.

We bought our eldest a cheapish Chinese swag, it lasted only six months before it all fell apart, never again..
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Tractor88 on April 14, 2014, 09:02:31 PM
We bought the ARB double swag last year at the show and so far can't complain. Our daughter uses it whenever she comes with us in the camper trailer as its a hard floor and she complains about the lack of room inside the camper (complains about most things really) so the swag gets a lot of use. Very happy with it and the quality seems very good, heaps of room inside and plenty of ventilation. I rate it. Price is up there however but worth it.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: V8100 on April 14, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
Oztrail Mitchell king single for me few years old now but pretty happy with it never leaked. Does get a bit of condensation.  Will be spending 3 weeks in it this September so will see how I feel about it then..

Eddy
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Dogsbreakfast on April 14, 2014, 11:00:10 PM
Dome swag and stretcher = the business.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: themissus on April 15, 2014, 08:32:55 PM
Quote from: Dogsbreakfast lin=topic=36538.msg588663#msg588663 date=1397480410
Dome swag and stretcher = the business.

I wish! With ours being a queen size, it doesn't work with a stretcher :-[
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: cloakle on April 15, 2014, 10:06:10 PM
did buy a double roo systems dome swag not long ago seems good so far no problems
Title: swags......
Post by: JB on April 15, 2014, 11:16:09 PM
I have a couple and my son has one as well.   



My old one (on the right) only had a single smallish hoop at the head end.
My son's is similar but with a hoop at the foot as well.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/15/a3egatu9.jpg)

I found that in hotter weather mine got too hot and stuffy. So I got another one with 3 bigger hoops on it (far right).  Much better!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/15/yjajeguh.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/15/yqyna2ud.jpg)

Cheers

JB
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: ozstickman on April 16, 2014, 12:01:25 AM
I don't have any fancy swags. Just flat swags.


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Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Diesel Power on April 16, 2014, 09:34:02 AM
Are flat swags better say inside a camper trailer tent and dome ones for outside?
Sorry to hyjack thread, looking at getting kids swags for inside tent and thought of getting flat swags or could I get dome ones and not have to set up the dome section when inside?
Regards
Angus.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on April 16, 2014, 09:45:31 AM
I use a flat type. I always sleep under the car or truck. Keeps that winter dew off. :)

Shane.

Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Bird on April 16, 2014, 10:05:04 AM
I've never understood swags INSIDE a camper...

what am I missing here ???
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: swanny on April 16, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
I've never understood swags INSIDE a camper...

what am I missing here ???

From my point of view mate, it serves a number purposes,
1. easy to sort out, just roll it out,
2. easy to pack up, just roll it up,
3. warm bedding when in colder months,
4. when in hotter months just sleep on top if needed,
5. if space is a premium you can carry them on the car when req,
6. when I have a boys weekend, I just throw the boys swag on the roof of my truck and off we go, when my daughter gets a bit older ill do the same with her.

We went thru the whole beding stuff when we got back into off road camping, and the swags were just so simple for our setup, and also gives us an option when, like I say I head off with the boy by myself.

Its not the best solution, but its the best for us.

Hope this gives you some insight mate.

Swanny
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: westvic on April 16, 2014, 11:10:06 AM
Are flat swags better say inside a camper trailer tent and dome ones for outside?
Sorry to hyjack thread, looking at getting kids swags for inside tent and thought of getting flat swags or could I get dome ones and not have to set up the dome section when inside?
Regards
Angus.

Inside a camper/tent i reckon someone in a swag would boil in their own juices......way too hot.

Outside the dome type rules supreme when it comes to rain, bugs, heat (if you have full mesh and windows both ends) or if you dont like canvas lying on your body or feet. If none of these are a problem just dont put the poles up and hey presto you have a flat swag  ;D

cheers,
Steve
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: westvic on April 16, 2014, 11:13:56 AM

6. when I have a boys weekend, I just throw the boys swag on the roof of my truck and off we go, when my daughter gets a bit older ill do the same with her.

Swanny

ummm Swanny I think there are laws against this. Probably better to keep you daughter in the vehicle and better yet leave her home when on a boys weekend

(hope you know I'm having a bit of fun here!)

cheers,
Steve
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: swanny on April 16, 2014, 12:04:52 PM
ummm Swanny I think there are laws against this. Probably better to keep you daughter in the vehicle and better yet leave her home when on a boys weekend

(hope you know I'm having a bit of fun here!)

cheers,
Steve

Haha mate....no worries at all.

Swanny
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Plukaduck on April 16, 2014, 02:38:50 PM
My boy uses my flat swag inside the camper.  For his 3rd birthday I am buying him an ARB kids swag which he will use inside the camper.

Could not think of anything worse than him being outside and able to escape.
Title: Re: swags......
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on April 16, 2014, 10:47:48 PM
Your leaving too much room at the top of the swag.
He should have his arms inside the Swag and just enough room to stick his head out.
He can get around just like in the potato sack races.
He'll be right, he won't get far, He's bound to fall over a few times.
That'll slow him up. >:D >:D >:D :cheers:
Kidding, right.