I personally don't see the point of Xtrails or those sort of Cross breed pretend type of vehicles.
If you put that on the back of your car, you look like a w..ker.
If you were in a proper 4wd, fair enough, but put it on the back of an Xtrail and knock real 4wd's, that's just dumb.
I personally don't see the point of Xtrails or those sort of Cross breed pretend type of vehicles.
They have their place. For the person who mostly is on the blacktop and does the occasional run along the beach (most 'soft roaders' are quite capable in sand) or wants slightly more ground clearance on dirt roads they do fine.My BIL has a Vitara & I don't think you can put an XTrail in the same category i.e. transfer case etc!
When I recently went to Fraser one of the guys in our group drove a Vitara, and with the exception of the bypass track at South Nkgala rocks he went everywhere we did without assistance.
Bob - looks like you've upset at least one :cup:
If you were in a proper 4wd, fair enough, but put it on the back of an Xtrail and knock real 4wd's, that's just dumb.
Bob - looks like you've upset at least one :cup:
We the CFA were involved in helping to park cars for The Head of the River regatta just out of town . This snoozer & the wife turns up in a brand New Range Rover , 1st trip . l managed to direct him to park on a dry bare clay area . l congratulated him on " His 1st Off Road Esperance " The wife smiled , he wasn't impressed at all .you poor thing, you must have been there all day helping out.................
lts all how you take it after all . Leave laughing as you go :laugh: :cheers:
I personally don't see the point of Xtrails or those sort of Cross breed pretend type of vehicles.
They have their place
If you put that on the back of your car, you look like a w..ker.
I agree, but no different to the chev badge on a commy
If you were in a proper 4wd, fair enough, but put it on the back of an Xtrail and knock real 4wd's, that's just dumb.
And a challenger is any different? Where is the line for a proper 4wd?
Hmmmm ballet classes ;D lts all a windup you know ???you thinking of joining the twinkle toes brigade Jamie?
but ballet classes Hmmmmmm :cheers:
If you were in a proper 4wd, fair enough, but put it on the back of an Xtrail and knock real 4wd's, that's just dumb.Nice way to miss the whole point.
I rather be in a well driven xtrail than with a tosser in a landcrusier .
Has the pic been removed ? I can only see the link to the screen shot web site from here.
And a challenger is any different? Where is the line for a proper 4wd?
33 inch tyres, tick,
3 inch suspension lift, tick,
Bullbar, tick,
Roller drawers, tick,
Factory diff lockers, tick, etc, etc, etc,
I can keep going, but to compare an Xtrail with a proper 4wd is just dumb.
I suppose a brumby isn't a real 4wd either. ??? ??? :cheers:
We the CFA were involved in helping to park cars for The Head of the River regatta just out of town . This snoozer & the wife turns up in a brand New Range Rover , 1st trip . l managed to direct him to park on a dry bare clay area . l congratulated him on " His 1st Off Road Esperance " The wife smiled , he wasn't impressed at all .was out 4wding with a new Range Rover today, very capable vehicles even with the road profile tyres it had on it, watching the electronics in action up and down some steep loose rocky hills was quite interesting. well that was right up until a mate jumped in to drive it for a while and not more then 5 minutes up the track he sliced the side wall of the 19" tyre :o ...glad i don't have to pay the replacement cost of that...lol.
lts all how you take it after all . Leave laughing as you go :laugh: :cheers:
Sick of seeing all the phoney's with all the (un)neccessary status symbols bolted to their 'take me to the shops/drop the kids to school' cars ::)while I get the point you're trying to make (hey, I drive a Jeep:-)), I'd remove the inverted comma's (" " " ") and last word (4x4). And just leave the last line as 'offroad more than most'. Makes the point without rubbing it in and setting yourself up for abuse etc.
Thought I'd carry this around for a while, 'specially seen as I've been doing a fair bit of going to, and driving 'round sydney lately >:D(http://s12.postimg.org/6r78a92al/P1180468.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
screenshot tool (http://postimage.org/app.php)
And a challenger is any different? Where is the line for a proper 4wd?
33 inch tyres, tick,
3 inch suspension lift, tick,
Bullbar, tick,
Roller drawers, tick,
Factory diff lockers, tick, etc, etc, etc,
I can keep going, but to compare an Xtrail with a proper 4wd is just dumb.
They have their place. For the person who mostly is on the blacktop and does the occasional run along the beach (most 'soft roaders' are quite capable in sand) or wants slightly more ground clearance on dirt roads they do fine.a Vitara is hardly a soft raider with a dual range transfer case
When I recently went to Fraser one of the guys in our group drove a Vitara, and with the exception of the bypass track at South Nkgala rocks he went everywhere we did without assistance.
Bob - looks like you've upset at least one :cup:
And a challenger is any different? Where is the line for a proper 4wd?
33 inch tyres, tick,
3 inch suspension lift, tick,
Bullbar, tick,
Roller drawers, tick,
Factory diff lockers, tick, etc, etc, etc,
I can keep going, but to compare an Xtrail with a proper 4wd is just dumb.
FFS, anybody else wanna have a go,
I was comparing MY current setup to an Xtrail.
In no way was I comparing to anything or anybody else.
Fk, too many highly strung people around here.
When did I say a 100 series was not a 4wd.
I was comparing to what I drive to an Xtrail.
FFS, anybody else wanna have a go,
I was comparing MY current setup to an Xtrail.
In no way was I comparing to anything or anybody else.
Fk, too many highly strung people around here.
When did I say a 100 series was not a 4wd.
I was comparing to what I drive to an Xtrail.
Time for a...
(http://blkmav.com/images/chill.jpg)
I personally don't see the point of Xtrails or those sort of Cross breed pretend type of vehicles.
Hey is anyone having drama with that link? It redirected my iPad to something else?
Hey is anyone having drama with that link? It redirected my iPad to something else?
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I just tried to log in over at the above forum and when it loaded it took me somewhere else after log in. I think they have some issues
Me too, (ipad) tried to take me to teenpartyslut5 as well as other websites. Definitely having issues.Yep that's it. I also opened the link via tapatalk on iPhone and it went to the same place
We the CFA were involved in helping to park cars for The Head of the River regatta just out of town . This snoozer & the wife turns up in a brand New Range Rover , 1st trip . l managed to direct him to park on a dry bare clay area . l congratulated him on " His 1st Off Road Esperance " The wife smiled , he wasn't impressed at all .
lts all how you take it after all . Leave laughing as you go :laugh: :cheers:
was out 4wding with a new Range Rover today, very capable vehicles even with the road profile tyres it had on it, watching the electronics in action up and down some steep loose rocky hills was quite interesting. well that was right up until a mate jumped in to drive it for a while and not more then 5 minutes up the track he sliced the side wall of the 19" tyre :o ...glad i don't have to pay the replacement cost of that...lol.
Hey rumpy, had they done this "air down" thing on the Rangies tyres ?Sorry to butt in on this but, because the Rangie Tyres are so low profile, lowering pressure (I don't like the term "Airing Down") to have any real affect is not an option.
Is that my link that is playing up. Goes straight to 4wdbogan.com.au on both my ipad and mac.
MODS delete if you like. If it linked to hot bald slightly obese middle age men .com that would be fine.....
Hey is anyone having drama with that link? It redirected my iPad to something else?was it a porn site it redirected you to Olly? have heard of a few people having that done to them whilst logging onto Overlander forum lately when using an IPAD or IPHONE
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I just tried to log in over at the above forum and when it loaded it took me somewhere else after log in. I think they have some issues
Hey rumpy, had they done this "air down" thing on the Rangies tyres ?i know every vehicle other then that one there on the day aired down but i didn't see if the owner did of the Rangie as he was right up at the front of the line of the 6 vehicles all up we had there on the day. The guy who owned the vehicle does tag along tours for a living and has been 4wding for many many years and his partner in the company owns a well known 4wd tyre store, so i reckon he knows what he's doing with regards to what pressures are suitable to run in the vehicle. i know that doesn't answer the question, but it's all i got...lol
Me too, (ipad) tried to take me to teenpartyslut5 as well as other websites. Definitely having issues.
was it a porn site it redirected you to Olly? have heard of a few people having that done to them whilst logging onto Overlander forum lately when using an IPAD or IPHONE
Me too, (ipad) tried to take me to teenpartyslut5 as well as other websites. Definitely having issues.
An extremely well put together & articulate piece of prose.
At the risk of earning the ire of Myswag Prado owners I must say that Prados do appear to be the vehicle of choice for the "Look How Tough I am" brigade. I invited a bloke in a bells & whisles version to accompany us for a drive up at Glasshouse. He got to the 1st "challenge" turned tail & went home & no, it wasn't vehicle wrecking stuff. One of the vehicles was a bog standard Freelander.
I'm not keen on stickers. Myswag sticker is compulsory but any others is not my thing.I think you may bend the rules a bit if ever Richmond win a grand final in the near or distant future, but until the I will continue looking in my rear vision mirror admiring the art work from the stickers on my back window. :cup:
Yep, I reckon your in depth survey and quantifiable results are spot on the money!Read the 1st paragraph of my 2nd sentence. I'm not having a shot at anyone, just making an observation as, where I live, I have a Shitload of 4x4's come through to the nearby tracks.
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Thanks rumpy, its seems the walls bulge out excessively when the pressure is reduced and are exposed to rocks, I've never bothered with it to be honest.it was more bad luck and a bad line with the guy driving, there were 2 rocks beside the track and he managed to clip one of them. he barely touched the rock according to the guy behind him who saw it happen (didn't even mark the rim), just a super sharp rock that cut straight through the side wall was all...reckon it wouldn't of matter too much about tyre pressures to be honest.
Its the trend now it seems.
FFS, anybody else wanna have a go,
I was comparing MY current setup to an Xtrail.
In no way was I comparing to anything or anybody else.
Fk, too many highly strung people around here.
When did I say a 100 series was not a 4wd.
I was comparing to what I drive to an Xtrail.
33 inch tyres, tick,
3 inch suspension lift, tick,
Bullbar, tick,
Roller drawers, tick,
Factory diff lockers, tick, etc, etc, etc,
Mate, if you run around calling people dumb, then don't be surprised when you cop some flack. If you can't take it, then don't dish it out.
Really, what is the real point of this? You have an Xtrail and people look down on you, who cares. People with big flash 4wds dont take them off road, again, who gives a toss. People with so called real 4wds think they are better, who gives a toss. At the end of the day, you know your vehicle and what it can do, where it can go and the enjoyment it provides you. Who cares what others think and you have to prove nothing. Just get out and us it. Cause IMO for what its worth, that sticker makes you look like the w@$£ er. No offence intended. Live for the satisfaction in you knowing the truth....:-)
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Live for the satisfaction in you knowing the truth....:-)
Really, what is the real point of this? You have an Xtrail and people look down on you, who cares. People with big flash 4wds dont take them off road, again, who gives a toss. People with so called real 4wds think they are better, who gives a toss. At the end of the day, you know your vehicle and what it can do, where it can go and the enjoyment it provides you. Who cares what others think and you have to prove nothing. Just get out and us it. Cause IMO for what its worth, that sticker makes you look like the w@$£ er. No offence intended. Live for the satisfaction in you knowing the truth....:-)
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It was a reference to some body saying an Xtrail is just as capable, if not more, than a proper 4wd.
Here's the budget version
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/15/qe8uqaty.jpg)
That's the result of the CEO of Coles and CEO of jayco mating.Jaycoles?
- a certain vehicle for the look how tough I am brigade? I would have thought that belonged to the six inch lifted live axle brigade myself.Or the 3" lifted Bitasmissin crew?? :angel:
Jaycoles?Pmsl
Here's the budget versionI wonder if you could mount a dual battery setup on the bottom rack for LED lighting and boom box?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/15/qe8uqaty.jpg)
I wonder if you could mount a dual battery setup on the bottom rack for LED lighting and boom box?
So long as you used 6 B&S and a capable DC/DC charger there wouldn't be any issues.fuses or cirquit breakers and would I really need an Anderson plug, or would just basic battery clips be ok:-)
What kind of refrigeration is the next question ... mmmmmmmmm?
fuses or cirquit breakers and would I really need an Anderson plug, or would just basic battery clips be ok:-)
Fuses and those circuit breakers only get in the way, and they do nothing for the ascetics.Leave em out.thnx, that's great. Could I just cable tie the bare wires to the battery:-)
Can't you just twist the wires together ? Or use some sticky tape.
I was going to use one of them wacko fridges, but my mate reckons that they're gay. He's a brickie, so he should know hey.
thnx, that's great. Could I just cable tie the bare wires to the battery:-)
I am going to kick the soap box from under you.
It was a reference to some body saying an Xtrail is just as capable, if not more, than a proper 4wd.
It still sh!ts me, no end, when you see these types of "4wd's" and their very ignorant owners blocking access and inland tracks on Fraser Island. Then get onto public 4wd forums saying their Xtrail/Forester/CRV and whatever else they call a 4wd and say they are just as good, or better.
thnx, that's great. Could I just cable tie the bare wires to the battery:-)
I've taken the opportunity to re read this thread. I always thought it was a tongue in check thread and treated it accordingly.What does denuded mean?
But I've picked up a new theme that I think needs further discussion:
I always love spending time in any bush I can get access too, but is anyone else finding these days that a lot of bush is being denuded?
And a challenger is any different? Where is the line for a proper 4wd?
33 inch tyres, tick,
3 inch suspension lift, tick,
Bullbar, tick,
Roller drawers, tick,
Factory diff lockers, tick, etc, etc, etc,
I can keep going, but to compare an Xtrail with a proper 4wd is just dumb.
Are we compensating for something >:D
1st Prize to who ever works out what direction this thread is going in or is it just going be a vent for all S#$% on the Liver ::) Have a coldie & settle :cheers:
Well I think the sticker is a good laugh :)
What ever floats your boat. I think the xtrails are adequate enough, I ve seen enough on the tracks to see there capable, just like suzukis, Subaru and the rest. Jeez years ago we went every were in falcons and kingswoods and I mean everywhere.
I rather be in a well driven xtrail than with a tosser in a landcrusier .
That was the intention for starting the thread on this forum GraemeL.
I'd thought about posting on a different, specific forum, but I know some there don't have a sense of humor, and would've been upset with me saying an X-Trail's not a proper 4x4 ::)
I've got mates with 4by's who see the sticker for what it is, and have had a good laugh, but it seems some here suffer little willy syndrome, or simply can't read and see it as me claiming an X-Trail is superior to proper 4x4's ???
Admins/Mods...feel free to remove this thread, I've no objection!
BTW I'd love a Prado. (Although they "always" get bogged) ;D
Dave
This Thread should have been closed right after this quote. BTW I saw the funny side of all this as did most and as per usual the people with "issues" took offence. I wouldn't have put it on my X-trail but I know where I can take mine and know where it's been and plenty of "real" 4wd owners have been impressed with how it goes. I'd be the first to admit it's limited capabilities, but I bet the poor guy bellied out in his Prado on the beach down at five fingers reef south of Coral Bay wouldn't have expected me to drive past chuck a U turn and come back to check he was ok all without any issues. (he was very red faced and said no thanks and half an hour later another Prado helped to snatch him out) Like achjimmy said a well driven x-trail is a better place to be than with a tosser in a "insert Real 4wd". Know your car, know it's capabilities, and most of all don't knock someone else's choice. BTW I'd love a Prado. (Although they "always" get bogged) ;Dbuy a Jeep, they never get bogged!
Dave
buy a Jeep, they never get bogged!
Disclaimer - but can be known to break down, catch fire, be the basis for great jokes, and attract hot chicks!
Hot Chicks?.........Is that because of the fire? ;D Ok I'll admit it I do like the new Jeep Grand Cherokee (there I said it).you've come out of the closet, that'll upset the Toyonissa group.......the 2011/12 models are starting to come off lease. Low KM's and Ideal for lifting and armour plating for off road and touring. Murchison Products in Bris are also about to release their snorkel.
Dave
How do you reckon your X-trail would go around Beachport/Robe beach driving...
Are the gearbox overheating issues still a problem with beach driving?
Dude in the club wants to come along in an X-Trail diesel but don't want him to screw up his car for the sake of it...
Also is there a front recovery point for X-trails??? He currently doesn't have one..
Thoughts?