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Title: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: weeds on January 10, 2014, 01:00:51 PM
I need to sort stone protection on my CT........just getting to broken hill we will cover 800km + on dirt roads just getting out there

my trailer is a little different to most and I need to protect our investment into mountain bikes first, trailer second

I cannot see or load pics from work so look at this thread for my trailer design http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=27244.msg422599#msg422599 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=27244.msg422599#msg422599)

DIY stone deflector - I could knock one up but I have a few concern, rocks bounce forward to rear glass or door, rocks bounce over and damage bikes, rocks bounce and hit passing cars, weeds would need to remove stone guard prior to un-loading bikes

Rock Tamers http://rvtowingsolutions.com.au/products/rock-tamers#rtinfo (http://rvtowingsolutions.com.au/products/rock-tamers#rtinfo) @ $500, could make my own......but hard to judge the length of rubber, weights on the rubber so that the wind doesn't push it up, what happens when the suspension compresses and the rubber scrapes the gravel...does this = more rocks, still a hole in the centre, could add rubber to the centre

Stone Stomper - http://www.stonestomper.com.au/ (http://www.stonestomper.com.au/)  $600 big ones.......looks the goods, are there any bad points? rub point maybe? I have arrange to go look at one of these set u p on a trailer

your thoughts
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: wiggo on January 10, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
Made my own version of rock tamers
honestly they are just as good at keeping the ct protected and never had a rock bounce back.
if i can find a pic i will post up.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: chester ver2.0 on January 10, 2014, 01:27:11 PM
For our half lap of aus with the bikes i personnaly put them up on the roof of the tug and found they were fairing much better than when i origionally had them on the draw bar
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: MDS69 on January 10, 2014, 01:38:36 PM
Looking at your first pic in your thread build up, maybe some shade cloth. There would be a dozen different ways to secure it to the vertical RHS near the trailer spare tyre to make it removable and not being able to see the opposite side I guess it is similar construction. You may need to fabricate/install some type of removable post on the front corners (or perhaps slightly inboard a bit) to support the shade cloth on the change of direction across the front of the trailer. Don't put too much tension in the shade cloth as you want it to absorb the rocks not rebound them into the tug.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Bird on January 10, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
Theres a million threads on this subject.. Stomper comes out on top usually... many people make their own.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: weeds on January 10, 2014, 02:12:24 PM
For our half lap of aus with the bikes i personnaly put them up on the roof of the tug and found they were fairing much better than when i origionally had them on the draw bar

we have five adult size mountain bikes
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Topender on January 10, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
I have a reasonable collection of bikes myself all very expensive (stupidly expensive according to most) and there is no way in hell my bikes would be travelling like that offroad.  Dust would be the biggest enemy of those poor bikes. (sorry I love bikes ;D)  The mounting etc is fine and a guard to stop rocks would be great but the dust will be everywhere.

Dave
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: weeds on January 10, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
I have a reasonable collection of bikes myself all very expensive (stupidly expensive according to most) and there is no way in hell my bikes would be travelling like that offroad.  Dust would be the biggest enemy of those poor bikes. (sorry I love bikes ;D)  The mounting etc is fine and a guard to stop rocks would be great but the dust will be everywhere.

Dave

yeah the two banshee's would retail around $6k each...I will probably leave mine at home but the bride is keen to take hers and the kids

I can live with dust...........but it only takes one rock on a shock and i'm up for hundreds
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: gronk on January 10, 2014, 03:05:38 PM
Stone Stomper !!!!

If you have bikes that you value, pay the bucks and get one..

Surprisingly, it also stops a lot of dust around the back end of the 4wd area, but certainly doesn't stop it all !
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: chester ver2.0 on January 10, 2014, 03:43:09 PM
we have five adult size mountain bikes

Front wheels off mount them opposite front to back of each other you will get them up there
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Topender on January 10, 2014, 03:52:45 PM
Front wheels off mount them opposite front to back of each other you will get them up there

x2
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: staghornflat on January 10, 2014, 04:29:35 PM
Had the extended mud flaps in three different configurations which work alright. Final paid up for stone stomper and have never looked back, only way to go IMO.  :cheers:
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: JCOJ on January 10, 2014, 04:33:52 PM
A huge vote from me for the Stone Stomper.  A very high quality product and worth every cent in my opinion.

A mate of mine had Rock Tamers on and still smashed the back window along the Oodnadatta Track - he wasn't impressed - plus they weigh a tonne!

Good Luck with your decision.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: TOPNDR on January 10, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
I'll jump on the StoneSTomper bandwagon.  A great bit of kit and less than half the price of a Patrol barn door window.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: speewa158 on January 10, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
Buy a roll of Gaffer tape & knock off some Corflute real estate signs . Cover the rear glass . Use it or louse it . S$%^ Happens  :cup:
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: S.W on January 10, 2014, 06:28:13 PM
Stonestomper. Do it once, do it right!
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Hogie on January 10, 2014, 06:55:09 PM
Stonestomper gets my vote as well...
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: rodw on January 10, 2014, 08:02:59 PM
Stonestomper. Do it once, do it right!


X about 4 now.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Silvo on January 10, 2014, 08:21:33 PM
stonestomper.. this thread can be closed now
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2014, 08:34:46 PM
Here is a pic of my home made stone guards which hang of the back of my rear bar I built that can be found here (scroll Down):
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30501.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30501.0)

The pic shows the permanent mud flaps behind the wheel, and the temporary stone guards at the rear.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5547/11868417665_39867fa2cf_c.jpg)

These work, possibly for 80% of the stones, but that leaves in my guess 20% that sneak past. Stone Stomper is what I see as the big cure, working along side the stone guards I already have will give a lot of protection to the CT (including the Chassis) and Tug rear end.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Wazza2 on January 10, 2014, 11:20:53 PM
Add 1 for stone stomper. We did the full lap, plenty of the rough off road stuff, no broken back window - unlike others we saw on the way around who had no protection

As for dust- my daughters bike was on the roof of the tug. Still some permanent dust stains but otherwise ok. No rock damage up there
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: weeds on January 11, 2014, 06:22:09 AM
To date I have never seen a stone stomper in use yet so popular....I think it's the way I will go




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Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: weeds on January 11, 2014, 06:23:56 AM

Front wheels off mount them opposite front to back of each other you will get them up there


But where do I store five front wheels.........


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Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: rockman on January 11, 2014, 07:23:19 AM
stone stomper works vey well and stops everything bouncing back up and as mentioned before seems to settle the dust as well .
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: bully on January 11, 2014, 06:27:53 PM
How do the stone stompers go if the whole trip is alone muddy roads. Does the mesh make more of a mess by holding the mud or does it actually help by keeping all the mud down low.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: Bird on January 11, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: bully
How do the stone stompers go if the whole trip is alone muddy roads. Does the mesh make more of a mess by holding the mud or does it actually help by keeping all the mud down low.
I don't know if they all do but Adams got full of mud and just kept dropping until it was dragging... :(
He modded it himself afterwards.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Here is a perfect answer to that question for you, it is in Pictures.

http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=17414 (http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=17414)

Scroll down to the bottom and you shall see a tug with and a tug without the stone stomper fitted. A pic tells a 1,000 word they say, it does here anyway.
These folk are possibly on this site to I guess.
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: 2010banditsa on January 15, 2014, 02:36:35 PM
stomper again.... i did lot of tracks including cordillo downs rd and no damage to front of van or back of car. Underside of van was blasted to bits though. Ill be putting a series of flaps at the van end of the drawbar on this new van and fitting another stomper. Sold the old stomper for 450 as well when i traded the van
Title: Re: stones hitting CT and rear door/glass...just need to decide wich way to go
Post by: speewa158 on January 15, 2014, 03:12:50 PM
l have used a length of conveyer belt across the rear of the Pajero . lf your handy with mounting a square tube across the rear , then tec screw the belting on . Hang it from the 2 recovery rings & it works a treat . Not expensive  either  :cheers: