Post by: achjimmy on March 18, 2013, 04:16:19 PM
FYI this is what i wrote
PLEASE NOTE I WILL NOT BE ACEPTING PAYMENT FOR THIS THROUGH PAYPAL, WESTERN UNION OR ANY OTHER SUCH SCAM. I WILL NOT DEPOSIT ANY MONIES IN ANY ACCOUNT FOR THE SALE OF THIS CAR. Genuine enquiries only please?
Post by: Bird on March 18, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
if your working on an oil rig, out in the ocean and will get an agent to come and pick it up, save both of us the time and drown
edit: that's on ebay
Post by: Barry G on March 18, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
Seems some scammers didnt like my little disclaimer on carsales and reported me :cheers: carsales have made me edit my add to remove reference to "scams' or "fraud" little touchy me thinks.Western Union is frequently used by scammers, as there is no way of tracking the payments.
FYI this is what i wrote
PLEASE NOTE I WILL NOT BE ACEPTING PAYMENT FOR THIS THROUGH PAYPAL, WESTERN UNION OR ANY OTHER SUCH SCAM. I WILL NOT DEPOSIT ANY MONIES IN ANY ACCOUNT FOR THE SALE OF THIS CAR. Genuine enquiries only please?
In my experience, as a purchaser, PayPal is legit.
Post by: GS on March 18, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
Post by: TOPNDR on March 18, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
In my experience, as a purchaser, PayPal is legit.
That's what I thought Barry, until a colleague told me how a bank account he and his wife had for one of their kids was allegedly hacked somehow via Paypal, and the inordinate trouble he had to go to get reimbursed. One of the early requirements from the organisation was that his 3 year old son write Pay Pal a letter setting out his grievance!
That the child was only three and couldn't write held no sway, initially. In the end the services of the Ombudsman were required.
Post by: achjimmy on March 18, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
Post by: Nutto on March 19, 2013, 03:29:44 PM
This could be construed as carsales endorsing paypal & western union being scams, when in fact paypal & western union are merely used by scammers.....
:cheers:
Post by: Barry G on December 17, 2014, 06:23:43 PM
The Squeeze has decided to sell her 06 Hyundai SantaFe.
Has been on-line for less than 24 hours and she is really happy, in that she has got the price she wants.
Purchaser is to pay the money into her account with one of the big banks.
She rang the bank and they advised that there is no way he can withdraw money from her account, so she has given him her account details.
She is to notify him as soon as the money appears in her account and he will send the courier to pick up the car...
He lives in Darwin...
He works in the oil industry in NZ...
I said it sounds like a scam to me. Squeeze asked "How?" Not an unreasonable question, but I don't know the answer, other than Darwin... Courier... NZ oil industry = BINGO!
Can anyone explain this for me / us???
Post by: speewa158 on December 17, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
Post by: dazzler on December 17, 2014, 06:57:07 PM
Unless you meet the person it's normally a scam. Let's face it, there is a glut of cars for sale so unless it's rare and collectable buying sight unseen from miles away raises suspicion.
Post by: Tim - Stratford on December 17, 2014, 07:00:13 PM
One scam I'm aware of was the sale of a product overseas. Seller receives an email from Paypal confirming payment from buyer for incorrect amount. Buyer contacts the seller (a local) advising they 'stuffed' up the exchange rate. Tells the seller to reimburse them via Western Union the whole amount and then they'll resend the correct payment.
Seller does this and then speaks to the authorities who tell her to double check Paypal and stop any withdrawals if possible. Sellers then realises that the original Paypal email informing them of the original payment from the buyer was bogus. When the Paypal account is checked no funds have been deposited. The seller just gave away $XXXX to someone somewhere in the world....
Short answer - no idea ;D
Tim
Post by: oldmate on December 17, 2014, 07:06:11 PM
It's the beginning of the hook. They are fishing for your info / ID and build up a new you.
Unless you meet the person it's normally a scam. Let's face it, there is a glut of cars for sale so unless it's rare and collectable buying sight unseen from miles away raises suspicion.
Agreed, surly there would be something similar in Darwin. It's just a family car
Post by: Bird on December 17, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
heres one example
http://www.trademe.co.nz/trust-safety/2013/9/16/how-to-spot-freight-forward-scams/ (http://www.trademe.co.nz/trust-safety/2013/9/16/how-to-spot-freight-forward-scams/)
http://www.gumtree.com.au/scam-security-centre/types-of-scams/ (http://www.gumtree.com.au/scam-security-centre/types-of-scams/)
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2138369 (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2138369)
Post by: achjimmy on December 17, 2014, 08:31:15 PM
So I'd be having another chat with the bank.
Post by: oldmate on December 17, 2014, 09:08:00 PM
Quote
Hi all,
& yet another scumbag trolling the camper trader page.....
Thanks for getting back,i'm cool with the price likewise the condition as described on the advert,i work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kupe project.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb acct name and number if you have no PayPal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. mariaclintonmariaclinton@hotmail.com
Pays to be on guard at all times
happy camping
Post by: DropBearRacing on December 17, 2014, 09:13:58 PM
Yep be doubly careful. I am not sure it's not that hard from bank details. Recently after destroying my 85 yo mums CC because the charities were fleecing her. I was horrified to find that the PCYC had rung and set up an automatic debit over the phone! I contacted them and got it revoked (and they were fairly sheepish) and then went to the bank to ask how with out signing anything and how I can block it, they said nothing can be done and if she gives out the details and leaves a voice recorded approval transcript it can be arranged remotely?
So I'd be having another chat with the bank.
The charities love the elderly, they pray on their good nature. The wife's grandmother was getting letters, phone calls and door knockers all representing charities asking for her by name 12 months after she passed away. You would tell them that she had passed they wouldn't even take a breath before trying to get us to take over her donations. I don't mind giving to certain charities but I thought they were going a bit far.
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 17, 2014, 09:28:16 PM
This just popped up on my facebook feed. Sounds familiar. I mean seriously, Ïnternet messaging facility"What oil rig worker says that. Idiotshave I got a deal for you then....Can I interest you in a Jeep:-)
Quote
Hi all,
& yet another scumbag trolling the camper trader page.....
Thanks for getting back,i'm cool with the price likewise the condition as described on the advert,i work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kupe project.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb acct name and number if you have no PayPal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. mariaclintonmariaclinton@hotmail.com
Pays to be on guard at all times
happy camping
Post by: oldmate on December 17, 2014, 09:31:05 PM
Post by: Barry G on December 17, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
l can ,, send me $ mucho via Western Union for full disclosure :cheers:Jamie, if you had just asked for a slab of VB you might have hooked me. ;D
Post by: Barry G on December 17, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
This just popped up on my facebook feed. Sounds familiar. I mean seriously, Ïnternet messaging facility"What oil rig worker says that. IdiotsOldmate, were you selling a CT?
Quote
Hi all,
& yet another scumbag trolling the camper trader page.....
Thanks for getting back,i'm cool with the price likewise the condition as described on the advert,i work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kupe project.We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.Regarding the payment,i will be paying you through PayPal linked up with my westpac bank account,please get back to me with your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb acct name and number if you have no PayPal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. mariaclintonmariaclinton@hotmail.com
Pays to be on guard at all times
happy camping
Otherwise why would you do anything but ignore it?
Interestingly, virtually word for word of the message the Squeeze received, only the e-mail addresses differed.
Post by: oldmate on December 18, 2014, 05:58:25 AM
Oldmate, were you selling a CT?
No, I said it came up on my facebook feed ( from a group I am in, I guess someone else was selling one though)
Otherwise why would you do anything but ignore it?
I am sure they did, but just posted it for general information for the group.
Interestingly, virtually word for word of the message the Squeeze received, only the e-mail addresses differed.
That's the reason I posted it here. I saw the similarities.
:cheers:
Post by: speewa158 on December 18, 2014, 06:25:32 AM
After much thought l must part ways with my much loved pets of many years . Sadly l have decided to sell off , only to a good home for a minimal investment . Homing Pidgins , faithful & loving Pets . Something the whole family can watch fly away . Send of $ quickly as they wont last .
Or they will be back for quick sale in a week or 2 . Put your name on the list now to arrange disappointment
:cheers:
Post by: WilSurf on December 18, 2014, 10:08:12 AM
Ask yourself this question: Are you going to buy a car/CT unseen?
If your answer is no, then you can assume that if someone else is doing this, it must be a scam.
Post by: wilson79 on December 18, 2014, 10:43:54 AM
Post by: chester ver2.0 on December 18, 2014, 12:27:17 PM
Post by: Moggy on December 18, 2014, 01:28:10 PM
You can then post up here where we can all share in the fun.
Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
Post by: time on December 18, 2014, 01:47:21 PM
http://helpcentre.carsales.com.au/scam-defence/ (http://helpcentre.carsales.com.au/scam-defence/)
Post by: wilson79 on December 18, 2014, 01:53:17 PM
Why not ask them to provide their bank details for verification. Or better still ask for a cc number as a deposit payment ????.
You can then post up here where we can all share in the fun.
Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
Ha ha, My swag will be pretty quite while we are all in jail...LOL
Post by: #jonesy on December 20, 2014, 05:42:33 AM
Post by: 2010banditsa on February 13, 2015, 01:08:06 PM
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin McFly < > wrote:
Hi there,
Thanks for your enquiry on the 1982 Delorean DMC-12. I can confirm that the price in $55,000 and the condition is very good, there is just one minor scratch on the passenger side door that is 3cm long.
Regards,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:47:20 +1000
Subject: Re: Carsguide enquiry re: 1982 Delorean DMC-12
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
Hi thanks for mailing back,am ok with the price and the condition,am
buying it for my vacation,because i'll be coming soon from our rig as
am a petroleum project engineer on a rig offshore,i won't be able to come for
the inspection due to the nature of my work,i would have love to call
in person but we have call restriction due to bad weather condition our satellite server has been down.
i will be paying you through PayPal,please get back to me with your
PayPal details so i can proceed with the payment and contact the
courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in my place.
Await your reply.
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Martin McFly < > wrote:
Hi Luda,
Are you able to pay by bank cheque? I don't have a paypal account.
Cheers,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:26:14 +1000
Subject: Re: Carsguide enquiry re: 1982 Delorean DMC-12
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
Oh..sorry to hear you don't have an account with PayPal.
I hope you wont mind to get an account with PayPal.
Its reliable and easy to use PayPal,all you need to do is
visit www.paypal.com (http://www.paypal.com) and register with them.
When you are done with the registration send me the email
used for the registration with PayPal so i can pay in.
Await your response..
Thanks !!
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Martin McFly <> wrote:
Hi Luda,
So is bank cheque not an option? what about direct bank transfer?
Are you sure a Delorean is what you want for your vacation? It's more of a show car and with the flux capacitor installed there isn't much room for luggage. Please confirm you are still interested.
Thanks,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:45:41 +1000
Subject: Re: Carsguide enquiry re: 1982 Delorean DMC-12
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
Thanks for the mail..I will like you to get back to me with your PayPal email so that i can make the payment..
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Martin McFly <> wrote:
Hi,
My paypal email is this email, postal address is:
9303 Lyon Estate
Hill Valley, California, 90210
Phone is +15-555-843-234.
You are going to love your vacation in this car, the flux capacitor was just serviced to so it should be able to take you where ever you want.
Thanks,
Martin McFly
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:26:00 +1000
Subject: The response i received from my courier agent..Reply Asap
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
Apology :I was just about to make the payment when i had this little problem with the picking up,I got an email from my agent...he said he won't come for the pick up unless i pay him the agent commission fee first in order to be able to schedule suitable a pick up date and time and my pick up agent Headquarters is in China and all commission payments made for pick up from anywhere in the world is sent to their Headquarters in China and the only form of payments they accept is western union money transfer and i tried to pay online (www.westernunion.com (http://www.westernunion.com)) but it requires a credit card to make the transfer online which i don't have access to and there is no post office on sea.(there is usually a western union section in most post offices). So now i will include the $2,500 they charged to pick it up and take it home(1st class treatment)to the payments i will send through PayPal.After receiving the confirmation email from PayPal after i have made the payments, i will need you to help me send the $2,500 to my pick up agent through western union money transfer.The western union money transfer can be made at a post office or online at www.westernunion.com (http://www.westernunion.com) .I will be making the payments shortly and will email you as soon as am done.
Luda
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Martin McFly <> wrote:
No worries Luda, but Deloreans are quite valuable and require extra care with delivery, when I bought it and had it delivered from 1985 to 2012 the cost was $5,000 so it might be worth checking the cost.
Cheers,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:03:35 +1000
Subject: I have just completed the payment..Reply Asap
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
I have just made the payment now and i expect PayPal to have emailed you by now,check your PayPal email address if you have been messaged yet in the folders junk/spam, i sent $57,700 in all, i have decided to add the amount of $2,700 which i paid through PayPal, So you can now wire the sum of $2,500 to my agent's Headquarters in China via western union where they confirm all commission payment so that they can be able to schedule a suitable pick up date and time immediately.
As said earlier in my previous email,the western union transfer can be done at the post office as their is a western union section in all post office and can also be done via the internet(www.westernunion.com (http://www.westernunion.com)) .I added extra $200 to cover the western union charges which shouldn't be more that $60-75 but just to be sure i added $200.
Here is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed to get the money sent
through western union money transfer:
First Name: James
Surname: Watkins
Address: No.8 Xiushui East Road,
City: Chongwen District,
State: Beijing,
Zip Code: 100027,
Country: China.
Note:PayPal won't release the funds until they get the western union information from you due to the fact that i emailed them about the excess payment i made.Please kindly email the necessary details to PayPal :the MTCN which you will be given at the western union after the $2,500 has been sent as well as the sender's name and address used to send the money through western union so they can take necessary steps.
Luda
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Martin McFly < > wrote:
This is great business, please see attached a receipt but I accidently added a 1 in front of the total so I overpaid by $10,000, ooopss. Are you able to make another payment? otherwise I'll use the Delorean to go back in time to fix it.
Let me know
Martin
(readers note: phony receipt sent to scammer by “Martin”)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:28:23 +1000
Subject: Re: I have just completed the payment..Reply Asap
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
Hello, what is this you are trying to do..I expected you to know its $2,500 that is meant to be sent to my courier agent..
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Martin McFly <> wrote:
Sorry there, I made a mistake. Can you refund my over payment or should I go back in time? The flux capacitor is warmed up ready to go if needed.
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:48:45 +1000
Subject: Re: I have just completed the payment..Reply Asap
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
go back
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Martin McFly <> wrote:
Ok will do now.
Whoo hoo, I'm back now, I sure did have a hard time fixing the problem it while avoiding contact with my former self, you know, you can't interupt the space time continuum or the universe will colapse on itself.
By the way, I got a tyre puncture on the way back, is this a problem for you? I don't want your vacation ruined by not having a spare tyre.
Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:02:10 +1000
Subject: Re: I have just completed the payment..Reply Asap
From: luda3310@gmail.com
To:
LOL MADT MAN
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Martin McFly <> wrote:
Glad you are ammused but there are 2 issues:
1. I went into the future and have to warn you not to drive the car after 4 October 2021 (if you still have it) as the plutonium reactor is due to expire with catastrophic results
2. Thanks for you bank account details, I guess you missed that trojan virus I sent, you may notice less funds in you account by tomorrow morning, HAHAHAHAHAHA
LMFAO
Post by: wilson79 on February 13, 2015, 01:17:21 PM
Post by: oldmate on February 13, 2015, 01:19:08 PM
Gold!!!! :cup:X2
Post by: 2010banditsa on February 13, 2015, 01:23:58 PM