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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mace on December 03, 2012, 04:57:25 PM
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A local is setting up this by the look of it:
(http://gallery.myswag.org/gallery/d/43083-1/spree.jpg)
Checked out the Spree website;
Dry Hitch Weight: 700kg
Unloaded Vehicle Weight: 3300kg.
Colorado GVM 2900kg.
Tare 1800kg.
I will be on the lookout 4 it when travelling.
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You would hardly know it was on the back 8)
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Mmmmmmm. I agree. Think that Colorado may be a little under equipped. Usually see those things hanging off the back of a F250 or similar.
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I think someone posted photos of that or one very similar stuck up the high country trying to cross a creek
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Yeah, that was a twin cab with a big dual axle van on the back. I remember that one. I think D4D posted it.
This thing hasnt hit the road yet, the Spree arrived two or so weeks ago, backed into the driveway by a much bigger tug. The Colorado is currently undergoing turntable fitment. It hasnt fired a shot in anger yet. It may bottom out on the gutter!
I will watch with interest. I will also pull over if it passes going in the other directon ;D
That being said, its a great looking unit, with pull out sides for more internal space. It would look nice behind a 250 or Dodge Ram.
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Yeah, that was a twin cab with a big dual axle van on the back. I remember that one. I think D4D posted it.
This thing hasnt hit the road yet, the Spree arrived two or so weeks ago, backed into the driveway by a much bigger tug. The Colorado is currently undergoing turntable fitment. It hasnt fired a shot in anger yet. It may bottom out on the gutter!
I will watch with interest. I will also pull over if it passes going in the other directon ;D
Have video camera running when it drives out Will win you funniest home vids for the year
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Have video camera running when it drives out Will win you funniest home vids for the year
Yeah I'll say. Just seems like it is destined to fail this one ?? Lol
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he should get massively good fuel economy with that wall hes towing..
what about brakes, and clutch ??
What bout a cross wind? or head wind? he'll go backwards
Can you find out when he is leaving, we could make a myswag trip out of it.
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But the Holden dealer told me that the new Colorado's are rated to 3.5ton towing capacity - that's 200kg more than I need for this.
Cheers!
Matto :)
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Just seen in town.
LARGE,Oleander extremely Large double decker bus, real fancy looking, double rear axles, towing equally large enclosed trailer.
It was a behemoth of a set up.
Seen south west WA, Queensland number plate. Goodness knows how they've driven that halfway round oz, didnt look like it would fit under many cross road power lines,
Seeing Australia in comfort and style, wouldn't have thought thats bus would get too many places....
Wondered what was. In the trailer....
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But the Holden dealer told me that the new Colorado's are rated to 3.5ton towing capacity - that's 200kg more than I need for this.
Cheers!
Matto :)
yep and thats with 1 person and less than half a tank of fuel!!!
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Did you count the 100kg turntable attached to the tray?
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Did you count the 100kg turntable attached to the tray?
have you spoken to this "person/Alien" yet?
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No, I live very close. Perhaps too close. Ive been running thru my head how to approach the subject with him without appearing to be a "smart arse" neighbour. They have only moved in during the last 3 months. If I had met them before the rig arrived I would be more comfortable with sauntering over and having a look.
As it is (Im known to call a spade a spade) Im struggling with this one. ???
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Perhaps go over and suggest they have a look on MySwag for destination ideas.
Then leave it to Lost to sort them out ;D
Bunyip
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No, I live very close. Perhaps too close. Ive been running thru my head how to approach the subject with him without appearing to be a "smart arse" neighbour. They have only moved in during the last 3 months. If I had met them before the rig arrived I would be more comfortable with sauntering over and having a look.
As it is (Im known to call a spade a spade) Im struggling with this one. ???
say it as it is...
I work on the
"Hit me dont Shit me" theory.
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Yeah, I like both those ideas ;D
I plan to spend a bit of time in the front yard this weekend and saunter over if I see some action. At the minumum, I mite get to check out a nice rig before I get thrown of the premises!
Stay tuned, consider it a mission!
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Yeah, I like both those ideas ;D
I plan to spend a bit of time in the front yard this weekend and saunter over if I see some action. At the minumum, I mite get to check out a nice rig before I get thrown of the premises!
Stay tuned, consider it a mission!
get some better photos.. and try not to laugh too hard!
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Maybe he knows this bloke.
Spotted at BP Chinderah yesterday.
Rod
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(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/johnnofishing/dec12004.jpg)
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Maybe he knows this bloke.
Well, that answers the "how can I take my boat AND my plastic patio furniture AND my caravan" question...
Cheers,
Matto :)
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Maybe he knows this bloke.
Spotted at BP Chinderah yesterday.
Rod
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(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/johnnofishing/dec12004.jpg)
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oh I cant wait to watch him get that trailer and boat off there..
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oh I cant wait to watch him get that trailer and boat off there..
Clearly what we can't see is the forklift being towed behind the caravan to get the boat down. :D :D
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Easy launch.....just reverse the ute into the water till the boat floats.
Just hope he remembers to unhitch the caravan first.... ;D
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Just hope he remembers to unhitch the caravan first.... ;D
I knew I was doing it wrong.
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Maybe he knows this bloke.
Spotted at BP Chinderah yesterday.
Rod
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(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/johnnofishing/dec12004.jpg)
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Spotted a bloke doing just the same but didnt have a shutter box at hand >:D
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Ive been told tonight by another neighbor not to get involved! Seemed I wasnt the only one concerned.
The issue has been "discussed" and no correspondence was being entered into.
Keep an eye out for it.
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Ive been told tonight by another neighbor not to get involved! Seemed I wasnt the only one concerned.
The issue has been "discussed" and no correspondence was being entered into.
Keep an eye out for it.
Oooooooooooo ... sounds like I should pop by :)
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Somehow l think this could end in tears :cheers:
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..........The issue has been "discussed" and no correspondence was being entered into...........
.....ain't that usually the way......??
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Now I really want to know the story lol
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Just find a departure date and I'll be there!!
Chairs, chips and beers to watch it roll over as it comes out of the driveway
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I think someone posted photos of that or one very similar stuck up the high country trying to cross a creek
Or there is this one, I went to a mates property to sus out a good place to camp for a gathering, this came along, this is him going home and crossing the creek to get out of the property, he got stuck going in as well.
On the way there going up Kurrajong on the Bells Line, the transmission over heated, apparently it over heats quite a lot when speaking to him.
His car has a 3.0 tonne tow rating, the weight of the 5th wheeler 2,9 tonne loaded so he reckons, and 2.7 tonne unladen , the towing mechanism in the back is 475kg.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/DSCF0089.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/DSCF0091.jpg)
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Wow thats glampiing!!!
Or thats dedication.
Honey,we are going to my favourite fishing spot every year, ok, so you want to come and you want comforts...... now get the shovel and dig.
Wow.!
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On the way there going up Kurrajong on the Bells Line, the transmission over heated, apparently it over heats quite a lot when speaking to him.
??? Gee ... don't understand at all why.
LOL! I think it's hilarious to pull something the size of a semi trailer without the enginey bit (yes that's the sheila's technical term). Even I'm not the stupid and I've done some pretty stupid stuff in my time. Like working where I am ... AND twice ... should have learned the first time. * Sigh *
Kit_e
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...the towing mechanism in the back is 475kg. ...
Almost half a tonne of 'hitch' FFS!!!!!
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Almost half a tonne of 'hitch' FFS!!!!!
Ballast..........for when the "camper" isn't attached......... ;D ;D
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Or there is this one, I went to a mates property to sus out a good place to camp for a gathering, this came along, this is him going home and crossing the creek to get out of the property, he got stuck going in as well.
On the way there going up Kurrajong on the Bells Line, the transmission over heated, apparently it over heats quite a lot when speaking to him.
His car has a 3.0 tonne tow rating, the weight of the 5th wheeler 2,9 tonne loaded so he reckons, and 2.7 tonne unladen , the towing mechanism in the back is 475kg.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/DSCF0089.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/DSCF0091.jpg)
Print these and slide them in his mailbox... Want me to do it for you :D
FWIW, I wouldnt tow that with a 75 or GU...
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Ballast..........for when the "camper" isn't attached......... ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Maybe he knows this bloke.
Spotted at BP Chinderah yesterday.
Rod
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(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/johnnofishing/dec12004.jpg)
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I saw a Coaster bus on the weekend towing a trailer with a Rav 4 sized car on it, could have been a Vitara, and on top of the trailer was a tinny complete with outboard on a trailer. Would love to know how they got the boat and trailer down off the top of the trailer ???
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Any movement yet?
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Any movement yet?
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Any movement yet?
Post whore! ;D
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I overtook a 76 Cruiser Wagon towing a Bushtracker, but on the roof of the Cruiser was a 420 Quintrex Explorer, sitting on its trailer. Old mate must have had some long ramps to get it up n down from the roof.
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Saw it go around the block twice before we migrated! Certainly hadnt got too far!
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I overtook a 76 Cruiser Wagon towing a Bushtracker, but on the roof of the Cruiser was a 420 Quintrex Explorer, sitting on its trailer. Old mate must have had some long ramps to get it up n down from the roof.
Theres photos of it on the forum here.
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Even with a GVM upgrade it would be pushing its limit ???
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Well what do you know.. I saw it crawling along eastlink the other day!
Saw it from behind and ... I just knew it was T H E one!
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/a.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/b.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/c.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/d.jpg)
he didn't look all that happy as everything including a 1960's bus went past him.
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Well what do you know.. I saw it crawling along eastlink the other day!
Saw it from behind and ... I just knew it was T H E one!
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/a.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/b.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/c.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/d.jpg)
he didn't look all that happy as everything including a 1960's bus went past him.
That thing is crazy big for the ute pulling it, you would need extensions on the extensions for the mirrors. Imagine a bit of sidewind the side slapping would be scary
GG
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That thing is crazy big for the ute pulling it, you would need extensions on the extensions for the mirrors. Imagine a bit of sidewind the side slapping would be scary
Yea Garrick.. When you see it in person, its fawkin huge.. blustery strong side wind would be very interesting.
Glad its him and not me...
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Well spotted.
Yep, that certainly looks like it, although with an upgraded tug. He's a far braver man than me.
:cheers:
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The Colorado will pull it easy as the calculations to tow a fith wheeler is different than towing a normal van. As the weight is over the rear axle instead of at the tow hitch, it makes it easier to tow. I have a fith wheeler that I tow with a D-Max and I find it easier to tow than the camper that I tow as the weight of the camper is on the ball and though the camper is a lot lighter, the back of the ute sags more than with the larger/heavier 5th wheeler on it. I average around 15.5 ltrs/100km with the 5th and around 14ltrs/100km with the camper.
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Well what do you know.. I saw it crawling along eastlink the other day!
Saw it from behind and ... I just knew it was T H E one!
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/a.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/b.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/c.jpg)
(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mace/d.jpg)
he didn't look all that happy as everything including a 1960's bus went past him.
What's even scarier is you slowed down to take photos ! >:D
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Naughty boy Lost....looks like you were taking photos while driving too. :police: :police: :police:
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Naughty boy Lost....looks like you were taking photos while driving too. :police: :police: :police:
Nope, my patrol is left hand drive.
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Hi,
there is a similar rig (Hilux and dual axle 5th wheeler) lives near my parents' old place.
He has been migrating North for the past few winters and seems happy with his rig.
Ours looks positively Lilliputian parked any where near it.
cheers
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I am pretty sure we saw that rig between Lakes Entrance & Bairnsdale about 2 - 3 weeks back.
I said to my wife it looks like the one I saw on here ;D
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The Colorado will pull it easy as the calculations to tow a fith wheeler is different than towing a normal van. As the weight is over the rear axle instead of at the tow hitch, it makes it easier to tow. I have a fith wheeler that I tow with a D-Max and I find it easier to tow than the camper that I tow as the weight of the camper is on the ball and though the camper is a lot lighter, the back of the ute sags more than with the larger/heavier 5th wheeler on it. I average around 15.5 ltrs/100km with the 5th and around 14ltrs/100km with the camper.
I'm sure you know your stuff, but the basics don't change. Irregardless of the weight behind, the Colorado in my original post has a GVM of 2900 kg against a bare weight of 1800kg. So, 1100kg payload?
The spree has a payload pressure of 700kg bare (I checked their website), plus the 100kg weight of the turntable? This means the Colorado can carry another 300 kg? Add fuel and two passengers? 200kg gone, or in our case, 230!
So as I see it it has another 70 - 100kg payload available, for any additional things like water, food, other travelling stuff, which can be either loaded into the 5th wheeler or put into the tug? An extra 500kg or so of stuff in the spree will convert to a proportional amount of payload weight depending on load location. It will also add to the spree laden weight, pushing it to say 3800 kg. So is that Colorado legal? Just, at its maximum capability with no margin for error, and being steered by a grey nomad who may or may not have any experience in towing heavy combinations.
It means you can't have a bulbar and winch, or even carry the family dog and a six pack in the cabin!
Yep, it's been done to death in other GVM threads, some people don't give a rats if they are over GVM
, some know they are overloaded and accept it, other a have NFI!
Yep, much safer than towing a 3000kg van with a twin can, agree with that.
But IMO it is still not the most appropriate vehicle for the job. People just taking the lowest $$$$ way out they can, not that it's cheap combination anyway.....
Hope yours gives you much trouble free motoring and travelling, where are some pics?????.
:cheers:
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Maybe he knows this bloke.
Spotted at BP Chinderah yesterday.
Rod
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(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/johnnofishing/dec12004.jpg)
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anyone seen it since?