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Title: Random questions
Post by: terravista on October 24, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
Nothing real exciting, but I have been curious.
1.  When you pay at a servo for fuel, instead of the standard Macca's "Ya want fries with that" the question is "do you want a receipt"
My personal view is that the servo's are basically theiving bastards, so why is the receipt not standard?
Is it a way of not registering the sale to save paying GST?
Is it the negligible cost factor of the receipt paper and printing?
Is it to stop littering?
Are the operators lazy bastards as well as theiving bastards?

2.  Are the UHF transmissions hampered by glass? If using a hand held UHF CB inside the cabin, is there a benifit of having the windows down?

3. Cattle and horses stand with thier tails toward the wind. Is this so can smell thier own farts better?

4.  When tyres throw stones around, and the trailer hits the stone, how do the stones travel faster than trailer to break tail lights or dent the rear of the vehicle? Without the trailer having a trampoline effect, wouldn't the stone only be propelled at the same speed of the trailer?

5.  Magnetic North is a giant metallic lump that compasses point to. If this is that big and heavy, wouldn't it be safe to assume that our planet should have this weight at the bottom of the world. (If you weighted a beach ball and floated it, the heavier point would be in the water). Would not Ozone float to this higher level and thin out, causing the gaps above Antarctica we were told about years ago. If so, every map is drawn upside down?  Australia shouldn't be "Down Under" we should be "Top of the World (almost)"

Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Bird on October 24, 2012, 10:15:08 AM
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Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Pipeliner on October 24, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
Nothing real exciting, but I have been curious.

1.  When you pay at a servo for fuel, instead of the standard Macca's "Ya want fries with that" the question is "do you want a receipt"
My personal view is that the servo's are basically theiving bastards, so why is the receipt not standard?
Is it a way of not registering the sale to save paying GST?
Is it the negligible cost factor of the receipt paper and printing?
Is it to stop littering?
Are the operators lazy bastards as well as theiving bastards? When they ask "Do you want a receipt" what they are asking is "Do you need a tax invoice?" which you only really need if you can claim the fuel as a business expense - you will always get the credit card receipt (don't tell me you carry that much cash around with you!)

2.  Are the UHF transmissions hampered by glass? If using a hand held UHF CB inside the cabin, is there a benifit of having the windows down? Glass won't affect the transmission

3. Cattle and horses stand with thier tails toward the wind. Is this so can smell thier own farts better? No, it keeps the dust out of their eyes and nose

4.  When tyres throw stones around, and the trailer hits the stone, how do the stones travel faster than trailer to break tail lights or dent the rear of the vehicle? Without the trailer having a trampoline effect, wouldn't the stone only be propelled at the same speed of the trailer? Explaining the theory of Conservation of Momentum would make my typing finger tired - just accept that it happens!

5.  Magnetic North is a giant metallic lump that compasses point to. If this is that big and heavy, wouldn't it be safe to assume that our planet should have this weight at the bottom of the world. (If you weighted a beach ball and floated it, the heavier point would be in the water). Would not Ozone float to this higher level and thin out, causing the gaps above Antarctica we were told about years ago. If so, every map is drawn upside down?  Australia shouldn't be "Down Under" we should be "Top of the World (almost)"  Your first statement is completely incorrect, so the rest is not worth commenting on - sorry.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: terravista on October 24, 2012, 01:52:26 PM


Thanks Pipeliner, at least some of my curiosity has been answered.
1. I normally pay my weekly fuel purchase with cash, and get asked if I want a receipt. When I do use EFTPOS, I do get asked if I want a tax invoice.
2. Good to know.
3. I thought it may have more to do with observation of predators from downwind, but I gues the dust would be an annoyance.
4.Conservation of Momentum.....now there's some heavy reading. Even the YouTube video's don't help. I could just accept that it happens, but would conservation of momentum be changed to an increase of momentum for the rock to accellerate faster than the trailer to rebound onto the tow vehicle?
5. I guess my Geography teacher was wrong about the Magnetic Pole oh so many years ago.
Thanks for the clarifications.
Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: krisandkev on October 24, 2012, 02:23:58 PM
Re number 4, could it be like a tennis ball striking a tennis racket.  The ball rebounds off the racket at a faster speed because the racket is travelling at speed when it strikes the ball. (Or the ball strikes the racket, whatever...)  The stones are striking your trailer which is travelling at a certain speed, therefore giving the stone a rebound effect.   Just my little brain working, which means I am probably wrong.  I am usually wrong, just ask my wife.  :angel:

Re number 1.  My wife can claim fuel via her salary sacrificing arrangements.  I believe a fuel receipt is not good enough to send with the claim, she needs a tax invoice.  At most servos we need to ask for a tax invoice, which they are happy to provide as their register just prints one out.

Kevin
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: dazzler on October 24, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
The wheel is rotating faster than the speed of the vehicle is my guess.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: GeeTee on October 24, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
Actually the footprint of the tyre is not moving at all... it is on the ground. So what spits up the rocks?!  ???

ah I love science lessons  ;D

   
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: DarWen on October 24, 2012, 05:53:58 PM
My uneducated guess would be, that as the Tyre rolls on to the object that the object is held in place until the tyre starts to roll off the object releasing pressure allowing the spinning tyre to spit the object out.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: bobnrob on October 24, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
I/we pay via EFTPOS all the time, but it's only the last 2-3 mths that I've had to ask for the fuel receipt, always automaticlly given before  ???

We can't claim our fuel, but the receipt has type, how many (ltr), how much per. It all gets entered into a program I have that calculates everything for me...cause I can't add for crap!
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: SteveandViv on October 25, 2012, 05:45:36 AM
Ha Ha..

1) Deal with it and say yes or no  ;D

2) Would do if the glass was a mile thick or lead re-inforced but not from a standard window

3) it is also a there are more blood vessels down that end used for cooling

4) Think of it like a speed boat. You can see the way a propeller pushes the water away from the prop as the prop is fixed but the water not. Same for the stones. As energy is always being applied from the wheels to the road one has to give. it's always the stones

5) Yea, right  ;D 
Title: Random questions
Post by: oldmate on October 25, 2012, 06:58:26 AM
5). If it makes it better for you just turn your map upside down when reading it. Problem fixed.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: dazzler on October 25, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Actually the footprint of the tyre is not moving at all

 
Why do they wear if they are not moving -  ;D

Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: jclures on October 25, 2012, 09:13:46 AM
I always ask for a receipt for fuel, I once was pursued by a service station owner down the road claiming I had not paid for fuel, once proved that I had, I never even got an apology from the prick >:(, and he left me to handle the police complaint he had made. ???

I wrote a letter of complaint to Mobil Australia as it was a Mobil service centre, and they never even had the decency to acknowledge it either.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Mace on October 25, 2012, 09:23:07 AM
Re 5.

This is the Flag of the United Nations.

It has us just below our kiwi mates at the top of the world.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: GeeTee on October 25, 2012, 10:19:31 AM
Why do they wear if they are not moving -  ;D
you ask many questions grasshopper!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: krisandkev on October 25, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
I always ask for a receipt for fuel, I once was pursued by a service station owner down the road claiming I had not paid for fuel, once proved that I had, I never even got an apology from the prick >:(, and he left me to handle the police complaint he had made. ???

I wrote a letter of complaint to Mobil Australia as it was a Mobil service centre, and they never even had the decency to acknowledge it either.

Very good point. In my previous occupation that use to happen and luckily people were able to produce their receipt. 
Kevin  :police:
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: McGirr on October 25, 2012, 12:41:01 PM

I will stay on this thread.....

Why is it that our kids, especially sons, grow taller than us. Is it that in 5 generations everyone will be 7 foot tall or are we as adults shrinking  ;D ;D

Mark
Title: Random questions
Post by: gacoxd on October 25, 2012, 01:05:30 PM
I will stay on this thread.....

Why is it that our kids, especially sons, grow taller than us. Is it that in 5 generations everyone will be 7 foot tall or are we as adults shrinking  ;D ;D

Mark

Actually, like most things, it is a little bit of both.

Statistically Australians (generally) are getting taller and as you correctly surmised,you are in fact shrinking (vertically at least, in my case anyway).

The shrinkage takes place via the degradation and long term compression on the major weight bearing cartilage deposits in your body (knees ad spine mainly)

Its not all bad news though because you will no doubt be happy to know that your ears and nose (also made out of cartilage) will get bigger as you age. 
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: McGirr on October 25, 2012, 04:23:10 PM
Actually, like most things, it is a little bit of both.

Statistically Australians (generally) are getting taller and as you correctly surmised,you are in fact shrinking (vertically at least, in my case anyway).

The shrinkage takes place via the degradation and long term compression on the major weight bearing cartilage deposits in your body (knees ad spine mainly)

Its not all bad news though because you will no doubt be happy to know that your ears and nose (also made out of cartilage) will get bigger as you age.

I need that ear and nose cartilage in another area  ;D ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on October 25, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
Nothing real exciting, but I have been curious.
1.  When you pay at a servo for fuel, instead of the standard Macca's "Ya want fries with that" the question is "do you want a receipt"
My personal view is that the servo's are basically theiving bastards, so why is the receipt not standard?

Agreed.  It's not a thing they should ask ... they should just hand over the blardy receipt like every other blardy business in the world.  It saves me time (and precious frustation) and helps those behind me by making the line up move quicker.

When I'm at the counter I say all at once "pump 3, savings, yes" and then let them work it out from there.  Some do and I'm outta there fast but some look at me like I'm speaking a foreign language. 

Just like those people that insist on putting 2ltr milk into a plastic bag (and those that ask if I want one) ... I bought it to you without a bag ... I'm sure I'll cope well after I've paid for it ... without a bag.  If I want a plastic bag, I'll ask or simply help myself ... like I did with the milk. 

Don't get me started on stupid s**t people do everyday for no other reason than they can't think for themselves.

Kit_e
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: prodigyrf on October 25, 2012, 06:14:21 PM
I will stay on this thread.....

Why is it that our kids, especially sons, grow taller than us.

I understood the general rule was 'every' son is at least as tall if not taller than his mother which makes men taller than women on average. Sons can be shorter than dad however and that's why we're not a race of giants, although better nutrition and health has seen both sexes grow taller generally.

Any bloke here shorter than his mum because I don't know of any, although I'd expect a very rare exception here and there (aside from congenital malformation and disease of course)

PS: Meant to add that there is no observable rule re mothers/daughters/fathers. Only son > or = mum. It's why they love us so  :-*
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: krisandkev on October 25, 2012, 07:06:43 PM
And while we are at it!  Re the receipts, yes they should just provide them, but what I get sick of is at grocery shops when you get asked do you have a rewards or similar card/member.  No I don’t, so bloody shoot me!  >:(  Come on, really, if you have and use one of those loyalty cards, surely it is up to you to mention it.  It is not that hard...   There, got that off my chest.  :laugh:  That is a funny saying hey. ‘Off my chest.’  If I had an elephant sitting on my chest that would be something I would like to get off my chest...  Like saying, ‘I was just beside myself.’  Where did that one come from?  How could that ever happen.
Sorry, rabbiting on.   ::)
Kevin
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: rodsswag on October 25, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
Even the supermarkets here ask do you want a receipt with that????????
Unbelievable....
No that is not unbelievable, ''a man eating his own head, now that's unbelievable''
So many questions so late at night and hard to see without my glasses....
mmmmmmm port through a Tim Tam yummmmmy thanks Bruce.
 :cheers:

Rod.....
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: prodigyrf on October 26, 2012, 08:10:43 AM
Here it comes- "Do you want any filters with that"???
 
No I just want the exact tobacco and papers I damn well asked for in plain English if you were listening dearie, although without any lectures or well meaning messages from the sanctimonious gits and usual suspects if you can manage it for me luv.

Besides if you think I'm a grumpy old fart beyond redemption now you won't want to know me off the fags.

" No thanks."
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: TOPNDR on October 26, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
Well I don't mind being asked do I want the receipt. For EFTPOS yes, for cash no.  And for every one of you that doesn't want to be asked, there'll be someone who does want to be asked, so the poor old shopkeeper's are in a no win situation.  They probably observe the number of folk who dump the receipt, and, they probably conserve some receipt paper to boot.

As for reward cards, I'm so often off in la la land at the checkout, that I appreciate the checkout chick/guy asking.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: macca on October 26, 2012, 10:32:48 AM
Who says the stone is travelling at the same speed, maybe it just pops up at very little speed and is wacked by the trailer travelling at 110kph???
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: prodigyrf on October 26, 2012, 08:01:40 PM
I found out some time back the speed or mass of the stone are not as important as how sharp the point is hitting the glass. Go back years and the son is a tacker riding MX and we're cutting it fine for machine inspection, unloading the PeeWee50, etc from the WB work ute and you guessed it I locked the keys in the car and the helmet's inside. Wa wa dad we'll be late. Me grabbing 10" shifter deciding the passenger window can go and I'll grab another from the wreckers next door at work Monday. Stand back son! As I recall it took about 8 hits getting harder and harder before finally shattering with a blow that would smash your skull.

Recounted that to the windscreen guy who was refitting the same window to my Commode ute a few years back after a spate of such breakings all over coastal Adelaide one wet night, saying I never heard a thing. You wouldn't says he. Just try tapping it with the point of a nice sharp centre punch and Bobsyeruncle. Apparently the real little villains nick the diamond point emergency windscreen breakers out of the buses as the perfect tool.

A year or so later grown lad drives down the street in his Commode wagon with unsecured telly in the back and turns the corner and it slides across and telly corner meets rear window and kapow. It hardly nudged it dad says he recalling my shifter effort. Lyndhurst to William Creek with no real stone protection and 15mins out of Wm Ck just the right pointed stone hit the back windscreen and let the Great Outback in and I'm still getting it out.

I worked out safety glass is just like us. Would you prefer I shove you in the chest with the flat of my hand or with a stilletto knife in it? The brother and brother in law worked it out installing a frameless shower screen recently. One minute they were holding a very awkward heavy sheet of glass and next second they weren't after they just nicked the corner on the floor tiles.

All that is what set me to working out just how "they shall not pass" whatever the little villains' size, shape or velocity-
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=25391.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=25391.0)
 
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: terravista on February 05, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
When you get pulled by the cops for a breath test or taken to the booze bus, why can't you touch the breathalyser or hose?
And no, wasn't me, just watching RBT
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on February 05, 2018, 11:46:44 PM
Because of the possibility of squashing the hose flat and corrupting the result.

People try all sorts of things with that test.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: hardroad on February 06, 2018, 07:39:35 AM
Speed of light 299 792 458 m / s.
OK, so what is the speed of dark? ;D
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: shakey55 on February 06, 2018, 07:46:37 AM
Speed of light 299 792 458 m / s.
OK, so what is the speed of dark? ;D

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/futurism.com/how-is-the-speed-of-darkness-is-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/amp/


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Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: terravista on February 06, 2018, 08:20:28 AM
Because of the possibility of squashing the hose flat and corrupting the result.

People try all sorts of things with that test.



How would crushing the pipe corrupt the result? Wouldn't it just reduce the volume of air/alcohol mix?
The initial test has a tube around 50mm long and looks like that would be hard to squeeze.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: RebsWA on February 06, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
The wonders of science.  :-\
Hydrogen gas on its own is flammable at least.
Oxygen gas is essential to combustion.
Mix them together (H2O)and we have water which we use to extinguish fire.
Go figure.  ???
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Pottsy on February 06, 2018, 12:45:48 PM
When you get pulled by the cops for a breath test or taken to the booze bus, why can't you touch the breathalyser or hose?
And no, wasn't me, just watching RBT

Protecting the officer, infectious disease etc can be transferred, hep c etc. if done properly the officer will not touch the mouth piece with his bare hands.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on February 06, 2018, 02:31:21 PM
How would crushing the pipe corrupt the result? Wouldn't it just reduce the volume of air/alcohol mix?
The initial test has a tube around 50mm long and looks like that would be hard to squeeze.

The small machine with the tube on the top.  Tube is 100mm long with a restriction on the exit end
The clear plastic mouthpiece approx 50mm long, with off set in and out tubes, is a moisture trap, usually found on the bigger machine in the booze bus or Station..
They have to deliver 1 litre of air to satisfy the test, measured inside the machine.
Insufficient air into the machine is a fail.
If you deliberately cause a failed test, you suffer a penalty anyway, in Vic.  You are given a warning and a chance to retry as part of the procedure.
Then there's the part where they can take you to Hospital and get a blood sample as well.  Forcibly if necessary.  In Vic.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: terravista on February 06, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
They have to deliver 1 litre of air to satisfy the test, measured inside the machine.
Insufficient air into the machine is a fail.
If you deliberately cause a failed test, you suffer a penalty anyway, in Vic.  You are given a warning and a chance to retry as part of the procedure.
Then there's the part where they can take you to Hospital and get a blood sample as well.  Forcibly if necessary.  In Vic.



I can understand that, not corrupted by insufficient air, just a failed attempt. Thanks
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: gordo350 on February 06, 2018, 06:12:55 PM
Speed of light 299 792 458 m / s.
OK, so what is the speed of dark? ;D
The same but in reverse
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: OldPaj on February 06, 2018, 06:31:37 PM
Back to the original post, even though the original thread is somewhat dated!

Q1. I always get a tax invoice when buying fuel, even though, sadly, I cannot claim it anywhere.

This is because the tax invoice is the only way you can have positive evidence of purchase of fuel should there be an issue arise. It shows date, cost, time, place, amount and the retailers contact details.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: grantxx on February 06, 2018, 07:24:21 PM
Back to the original post, even though the original thread is somewhat dated!

Q1. I always get a tax invoice when buying fuel, even though, sadly, I cannot claim it anywhere.

This is because the tax invoice is the only way you can have positive evidence of purchase of fuel should there be an issue arise. It shows date, cost, time, place, amount and the retailers contact details.

Add to this if you get a bad batch - (full of water) is handy to have proof of purchase, happened to me in a 1 month old corolla, the Shit I had to go through to get it sorted was unbelievable, but ended well.
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: #jonesy on February 09, 2018, 06:02:28 AM
The small machine with the tube on the top.  Tube is 100mm long with a restriction on the exit end
The clear plastic mouthpiece approx 50mm long, with off set in and out tubes, is a moisture trap, usually found on the bigger machine in the booze bus or Station..
They have to deliver 1 litre of air to satisfy the test, measured inside the machine.
Insufficient air into the machine is a fail.
If you deliberately cause a failed test, you suffer a penalty anyway, in Vic.  You are given a warning and a chance to retry as part of the procedure.
Then there's the part where they can take you to Hospital and get a blood sample as well.  Forcibly if necessary.  In Vic.
Depending on the person less chance of them throwing it. Otherwise

Hand held unit less chance of dropping it or dislodging the tube.

Large unit didn’t matter if they hold it. The hose can’t be crushed.
If they can’t provide a sufficient sample than as mentioned they go to blood. No they don’t do it forcibly. If they refuse (at any point during the process) they get charged with that offence. The penalty is minimum 2 year licence loss. Double if they have a previous offence
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: jw2170 on February 09, 2018, 02:00:12 PM
Back to the original post, even though the original thread is somewhat dated!

Q1. I always get a tax invoice when buying fuel, even though, sadly, I cannot claim it anywhere.

This is because the tax invoice is the only way you can have positive evidence of purchase of fuel should there be an issue arise. It shows date, cost, time, place, amount and the retailers contact details.

Also, in NSW it is required by law to issue a receipt for any payment over $2... or used to be.   This has now been increased...

Under the Australian Consumer Law (ACL) there are a number of obligations on businesses. These include an obligation to provide proof of transaction to consumers for goods or services valued at $75 (excluding GST) or more. Businesses are also required to provide a receipt for any transaction under $75 within 7days if the consumer asks for one.

Even the self serve check outs ask these days.....
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Bird on February 09, 2018, 02:23:17 PM
The same but in reverse
that was my first thought LOL!
Title: Re: Random questions
Post by: Coolblue80 on February 10, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Why do I always get Man Flu in summer and never in the cooler months like every other normal person?