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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: ausiwaz on October 19, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
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I have heard that Queenslands finest are booking people for not having rated shackles on the safety chains when towing a Kamper of more than 1.5 tonnes any body have a comment?
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Why wouldn't you use rated shackles? I buy the small shackles from ARB and have a spare set in the centre console.
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Sounds like a damn good idea to me. Those Tonka toy ones wont do anything for you.
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and don't get me started on the morons who use karabiners...
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Sounds like a damn good idea to me. Those Tonka toy ones wont do anything for you.
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Hello Symon, nice to hear you are still around.
Regards
Angus.
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I have heard that Queenslands finest are booking people for not having rated shackles on the safety chains when towing a Kamper of more than 1.5 tonnes any body have a comment?
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On one hand that sounds like a fair cop to me. Safety chains are a critical safety device
On the other hand, is there a Qld motor traffic regulation that is being breached? Or is this another urban myth
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I reckon it's an urban myth. Whilst I agree it is a serious safety issue, coppers are too busy to be booking somebody with an unrated shackle. Doubt they would even know it's offence code. Now a Qld Transport Department Inspector is a different beast altogether.
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This would be a mate of a mate of a bloke down the road who was a smart ass.......
I remember a cop mate booking a bloke for having different luminescent headlights - someone got under his skin ;D
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Gee, glad this thread hasn't gone the way that the same subject was discussed on another forum. Posters quoting all these different standards, getting auto club opinions, trailer manufacturer's opinions. Just got soooo confusing.
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I use to drive heavy recovery and local towing.
our Trucks got inspected twice a year.
I never saw the experts glance at the shackles ,so how would the local on the street be able to tell?
Just my thought.
Cheers.
Titch
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Gee, glad this thread hasn't gone the way that the same subject was discussed on another forum. Posters quoting all these different standards, getting auto club opinions, trailer manufacturer's opinions. Just got soooo confusing.
Funny how I guessed which forum that would have been. I had a read of their thread, and some people really need to wake up to themselves. I think the link below makes it pretty clear -
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Safety/Vehicle%20standards%20and%20modifications/Loads%20and%20towing/Safe%20towing/Safe_towing_guide.pdf (http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Safety/Vehicle%20standards%20and%20modifications/Loads%20and%20towing/Safe%20towing/Safe_towing_guide.pdf)
Hello Symon, nice to hear you are still around.
Regards
Angus.
Missing me already? Awww... shucks :-[
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Question? Who can guarantee that the chain that is attached the the RATED shackle and this in turn attached to a Rated draw bar is rated chain?
Food for thought.
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Question? Who can guarantee that the chain that is attached the the RATED shackle and this in turn attached to a Rated draw bar is rated chain?
Food for thought.
The new stuff has a rating stamped on every fourth (isn) link. But the old stuff ??????
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The thing that has always gotten me is that it might be rated chain but any joe blogs could have welded it on.
Shane
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I had a brand new Kimberley over the pits in Darwin for a compliance check and roadworthy. They only thing they pinged me for was not having rated shackles. What should they be rated at I innocently asked. I don't know was the reply!!!!! Check the web page!
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On the link from the Govt., i noted the following.....
"When reversing, it is advisable to have someone outside the vehicle giving directions"
I love it when a 70 something wife, bellows to her 70 something, hard of hearing husband, to stop, when the caravan is about 6 inches from a steel bollard.
He yells out.... "What? Speak up woman, for Christ sake" and then the corner of the van hits the bollard.
Then its on and for the next 20 minutes you've got the best entertainment you'll ever get.
OK, back to the rated shackles now......
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This would be a mate of a mate of a bloke down the road who was a smart ass.......
I remember a cop mate booking a bloke for having different luminescent headlights - someone got under his skin ;D
yes, it's a very good idea to pass the Attitude Test when speaking with the lads in blue
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Rated for what? Lifting or towing ? They are 2 different things.
Take a look at a hand winch. One rating for lifting and one for pulling.
If you agree not lifting off the ground the ratings are different.
Worth thinking about.
Regards
Crisp image
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If you use a rated chain and then weld it the metal in the chain would not meet the same SWL as it did before. SWL means safe working load. Hammer locks should be used to attach the chain to the drawbar.
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If you use a rated chain and then weld it the metal in the chain would not meet the same SWL as it did before. SWL means safe working load. Hammer locks should be used to attach the chain to the drawbar.
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Got a pic Dav?
The only ones I can find have a shackle thing on each side. :cheers:
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Here is another name for a hammer lock is Connector Link. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/21/vegy5ese.jpg) also here is some different types of chain (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/21/ahe4edub.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/21/9u5a8ahe.jpg)
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So where can U buy rated d shackles from? Tried supercheap today but they don't have any. Any ideas guys (or girls :angel:)
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So where can U buy rated d shackles from? Tried supercheap today but they don't have any. Any ideas guys (or girls :angel:)
Got mine from ARB, were not over the top in price either
GG
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Bugger, we don't have an arb store here in Maryborough and we need one tomorrow before we head out, will keep "doin the google"
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Not sure of the area, but any of the rigging places should have something
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/search/listings?region=australia&showAllLocations=false&headingCode=35785&includeSurroundingSuburbs=false&bookId=25&referredBy=YOL&locationArea=r&areaId=1075&surroundingSuburbsModifiedByUser=false&pageNumber=1&showAllCandidates=false&locationText=Maryborough+Region+QLD&tmPageNumber=1&searchMode=type&selectedViewMode=list&sortBy=mostInfo&sessionId=33DAD9BEB1F8A5CA84744A998DB631DB.11&stateId=4&clue=Hoisting+%26+Rigging+Equipment+Electric&context=businessTypeSearch&serviceAreaModifiedByUser=false&locationClue=maryborough+region+qld&lruPageNumber=1&serviceArea=false&adPs=3851003 (http://www.yellowpages.com.au/search/listings?region=australia&showAllLocations=false&headingCode=35785&includeSurroundingSuburbs=false&bookId=25&referredBy=YOL&locationArea=r&areaId=1075&surroundingSuburbsModifiedByUser=false&pageNumber=1&showAllCandidates=false&locationText=Maryborough+Region+QLD&tmPageNumber=1&searchMode=type&selectedViewMode=list&sortBy=mostInfo&sessionId=33DAD9BEB1F8A5CA84744A998DB631DB.11&stateId=4&clue=Hoisting+%26+Rigging+Equipment+Electric&context=businessTypeSearch&serviceAreaModifiedByUser=false&locationClue=maryborough+region+qld&lruPageNumber=1&serviceArea=false&adPs=3851003)
GG
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You could try the bearing supplies in town. Our local inns carry some lifting equipment such as slings and shackles.
Regards
Crispy
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Thanks guys, I will check those places out tomorrow, Thanks ;D ;D ;D
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If you use a rated chain and then weld it the metal in the chain would not meet the same SWL as it did before. SWL means safe working load. Hammer locks should be used to attach the chain to the drawbar.
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You actually can't use hammerlocks to attach the chain to the draw bar. The rules state it must be welded, but as you said, most alloy grade lifting chains are not meant to be welded or the rating will be significantly reduced. Interesting as to how you are supposed to weld a steel chain to a alloy drawbar if that's what your trailers made of.
I think supercheap only sells shackles as small as 3.2t but they will be too big to fit through your chain. You need the smaller 1.5t or possibly 2t and I got mine from the local Bullivants specialist. I think I have now seen them at bunnings too if you have one close by.
Cheers
Wes