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Title: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 06, 2012, 07:11:56 PM
Ok, been a while since this subject has been aired..
How about some feedback from those that have had them a while now.?  thinking about getting one myself,, there is another brand out there,,  "Rio Grand"  about the same price also,,,  anyone tried em yet.??

BHG :cheers:
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Woodsie on October 06, 2012, 07:14:10 PM
Ive got a Redrock 6L , have not had a problem with it ......simple to set up and simple to use, and at $220 you cant go wrong.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 06, 2012, 07:24:41 PM
How long you had your's Woodsie.? is the 6lm enough for showering.??

BHG
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Woodsie on October 06, 2012, 07:30:39 PM
had it about 6 months and you would not want to go any bigger as the 12 v pumps are generally between 4 and 6 lpm and yes the 6 is ample for showering. If the pump flow is not powerful enough the auto piezo will not ignite as it triggers on water flow. I use a 4.7 lpm pump
Heres another topic on ithttp://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=22310.msg343863#msg343863 (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=22310.msg343863#msg343863)
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: briann532 on October 06, 2012, 09:14:41 PM
I've had mine for 3 years now.
Couple of mates almost as long.

Problems - Yes. need a tinker or 2 occasionally but no real gripes.
Mine clogged up with grit etc and required a flush out to get the flow going again.

I use a 17lpm pump and others are using 12 lpms.

Absolutely useless in the high country in winter!!!!!!
Water in the pipes freezes up and no flow = no go.............bummer.....
Still, what can you do with any HWS in this situation?

Would I buy another one - Hell yes.
Would I recommend them - absolutely
Are they legal - heck No, but at that price, I'm giving it a go.

Now sit back, relax, grab a glass of red and watch the nitpickers go all "electrical thread"on this >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

Cheers
Brian


Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: DannyG on October 06, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
We use one and are very happy with it.

Had an issue with ours so they sent me a new 'electronics pack' because it wasn't practical to return it for warranty.......when I went to install the the new part I noticed a wire had fallen off its tab so no doubt that was my electronic issue! Anyway it works well, we use it with our town water inlet and a 4.3lpm pump.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: efjay on October 06, 2012, 09:28:41 PM
I have a 10lpm unit and it works a treat mate.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Wato on October 06, 2012, 09:35:48 PM
Have had ours for a bit over 4 years now, the earlier model, and it has't missed a beat. The gas is hard plumbed in with a regulator and a bayonet fitting with water supplied by 3.9lpm pressure pump via a tap mounted on the drawbar. Average water usage on our system is 8 or 9 litres per shower.
Travelling with mostly my wife and daughter now it's one of my best investments/modifications. If the girls are happy they will go anywhere.

Craig
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 07, 2012, 06:06:17 AM
All sound good to me,, to little glitches, (Danny and Briann) but no big deal..  I'll pick one up in the next week or two.
Thanks guys.   :cheers:

BHG
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Sixtys Guy on October 07, 2012, 08:08:39 AM
Go the Rio Grande! They recently had their units approved (for portable camping applications only) by SAI Gobal, meaning that they are legal to use in Australia.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Renno on October 07, 2012, 08:30:26 AM
Thumbs up from me.
Had a bracket made up to sit it in the draw bar, had a canvas cover made for it as well.
No issues at all.

Renno :cheers:
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Woodsie on October 07, 2012, 12:08:33 PM
Go the Rio Grande! They recently had their units approved (for portable camping applications only) by SAI Gobal, meaning that they are legal to use in Australia.


Having looked at the Rio Grande, i would go for that one as it is AS certified. I might even update mine for legalities.

RIO Grande Instant LPG Gas Portable Water Heater AS 2658 Caravan, 4wd, Boat,Camp
Approved to AS2658:2008 Cert No:GSCS20224 MOD:JSD12-D6N

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RIO-Grande-Instant-LPG-Gas-Portable-Water-Heater-2658-Caravan-4wd-Boat-Camp-/320962380128?pt=AU_HotWaterSystems&hash=item4abad94160#ht_2640wt_1344 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RIO-Grande-Instant-LPG-Gas-Portable-Water-Heater-2658-Caravan-4wd-Boat-Camp-/320962380128?pt=AU_HotWaterSystems&hash=item4abad94160#ht_2640wt_1344)
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: shrek4 on October 07, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
Having looked at the Rio Grande, i would go for that one as it is AS certified. I might even update mine for legalities.

Did you / would you install it yourself or must it be installed by a plumber / gas plumber?
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Sixtys Guy on October 07, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
Did you / would you install it yourself or must it be installed by a plumber / gas plumber?

They are quite vague on the Ebay listing, but they are approved as a portable camping appliance only, ie not approved to be permanently installed, hence a gasfitter is not required.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 22, 2012, 06:19:36 PM
Ok, picked up a Redrock 6ltr, 4.3ltr pump, flue and reg today... Done a quick hook up this arvo when i got home,,, just using mains pressure from the garden hose... Was very impressed... .. should have bought one long ago,,, will hook up the 12volt pump over the weekend and see how it goes on that.. but so far.........HAPPY.! :cup:

BHG
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: xcvator on October 22, 2012, 07:29:50 PM
Geeze, you must have got a good price for that antena  :D
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 22, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
Geeze, you must have got a good price for that antena  :D
LMAO... not been picked up yet.. when it does, i'm guna buy a new Engel.. ;D
I actualy sold a coleman H/W on demand for 200, i paid 50 for it..lol Sorry JB..  so that helped pay for the redrock unit,,, witch i got for $285 instead of $310......
Now,, who wants to buy a Techni ice box.. 80ltr...lol



BHG
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: gutters on April 29, 2013, 06:54:51 PM
Rather than start a new thread I thought I would revive this one...

I have a Red Rock 6L hot water unit that I purchased late last year from http://ausj.com.au/index.htm (http://ausj.com.au/index.htm) which I have started to have some trouble with. The seller doesn't appear to sell them anymore so I thought I would ask the question here in the hope that a fellow swagger has an idea of what maybe wrong and in case I don't get a response from the seller.

The problem I have is the unit will briefly ignite and then the burner goes out, I can hear the piezo ignitor trying to re-ignite the gas but the burner doesn't fire up again. If I stop and start the water flow the process repeats, I'm using a 4.3ltr per min pump to push water through it and have had 6 months of no issues.

I have ruled out an issue with Gas as the bottle, hose and regulator were tested successfully on the BBQ. Any idea's on what the issue maybe?
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: barneys on April 29, 2013, 06:56:41 PM
check there is on stuff in the water inlet
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: baldheadedgit on April 29, 2013, 07:03:49 PM
Beet me to it Barney's, yep try hooking up to mains water also check there is no blockage in the lines

BHG
Title: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: DannyG on April 29, 2013, 07:04:37 PM
Check the wires are connected inside it. Mine did the exact same thing, they sent me a new ignition kit but when I went to install it I realized a plug had disconnected itself inside the unit!
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: gutters on April 29, 2013, 07:17:58 PM
check there is on stuff in the water inlet
Beet me to it Barney's, yep try hooking up to mains water also check there is no blockage in the lines

BHG

Thanks guys I should have added that water flows through with no worries.

Check the wires are connected inside it. Mine did the exact same thing, they sent me a new ignition kit but when I went to install it I realized a plug had disconnected itself inside the unit!

Thanks DannyG, I will pull it apart this weekend to see if there are any disconnected wires. I find it strange that it ignites for a second or 2 and then goes out and doesn't re-ignite. Anyway lets just hope its a disconnected wire.

Cheers
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: briann532 on April 29, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
A mates one did exactly that.
I pulled the cover off and had a look.

It appeared to be arcing out at the ignitor.
You could see the spark between the centre and the surround.
A slight tweak (bending) and some sikaflex to help insulation and all has been good for the last year....

Hope its easy fixed.

Brian
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: gutters on April 29, 2013, 07:47:08 PM
A mates one did exactly that.
I pulled the cover off and had a look.

It appeared to be arcing out at the ignitor.
You could see the spark between the centre and the surround.
A slight tweak (bending) and some sikaflex to help insulation and all has been good for the last year....

Hope its easy fixed.

Brian

Thanks Brian, if there aren't any loose wires that will be my next port of call. I'll report back once I get a look at it on the weekend.

Cheers,
Title: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: DannyG on April 29, 2013, 07:55:29 PM

Thanks DannyG, I will pull it apart this weekend to see if there are any disconnected wires. I find it strange that it ignites for a second or 2 and then goes out and doesn't re-ignite. Anyway lets just hope its a disconnected wire.

Cheers

Yeh the igniter wire is plugged in hence it will attempt to ignite. It's the circuit that keeps the gas open that's come unplugged if its the sane issue as mine. Sounds like it is but of course it may not be.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: gutters on April 29, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
Yeh the igniter wire is plugged in hence it will attempt to ignite. It's the circuit that keeps the gas open that's come unplugged if its the sane issue as mine. Sounds like it is but of course it may not be.

Ah OK that makes sense now, thanks again.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: Woodsie on April 30, 2013, 09:44:22 PM
Thought I would add a few pics of the Redrock setup...Just returned from a trip across the Nullarbor.
The Unit has never let me down, nothin like a nice hot shower in the middle of nowhere. :D
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: gutters on May 01, 2013, 09:44:19 AM
Just a quick update on the issue I have with my unit, Jay from http://ausj.com.au/index.htm (http://ausj.com.au/index.htm) has arranged to send me a replacement ignition module no questions asked, which is great considering he doesn't stock the unit anymore.

Hopefully I can fix the issue and have spare parts too, thanks to everyone for your help and suggestions.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: DannyG on May 01, 2013, 10:35:21 AM
Just a quick update on the issue I have with my unit, Jay from http://ausj.com.au/index.htm (http://ausj.com.au/index.htm) has arranged to send me a replacement ignition module no questions asked, which is great considering he doesn't stock the unit anymore.

Hopefully I can fix the issue and have spare parts too, thanks to everyone for your help and suggestions.


Good stuff thats what he did for me too. He had to cc me into an email to the chinese man first though ;)

So hopefully like me you will pull it apart to put the new module in, find the lose wire and as you say have a spare module :)
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: gutters on May 06, 2013, 05:53:23 AM
Just a quick update, I managed to pull the cover off and found the problem. One of the leads was barely connected.

Pushed it back on and hey presto good as new, thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions.
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: DannyG on May 06, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
Just a quick update, I managed to pull the cover off and found the problem. One of the leads was barely connected.

Pushed it back on and hey presto good as new, thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions.

Who would have thought hey! Glad it was simple like mine :)
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: znelbok on June 26, 2013, 10:37:15 PM
Where do I find more info on these Redrock units?

A search on Google found no manufacture site for info.

Who is re-selling these in Aus as well?
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: kiwipride on June 27, 2013, 06:21:28 AM
Where do I find more info on these Redrock units?

A search on Google found no manufacture site for info.

Who is re-selling these in Aus as well?

Amazon.com
Title: Re: REDROCK Hotwater unit.?
Post by: DannyG on June 27, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Where do I find more info on these Redrock units?

A search on Google found no manufacture site for info.

Who is re-selling these in Aus as well?

Redrock was just a brand the importer put on his units, he does not import them any more. But the same unit sells on ebay etc under various different names.