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Title: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on August 14, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
Anyone tried one of these on their Webber Q? and if so how does it perform

http://www.topnotchbbq.com.au/price-list.php (http://www.topnotchbbq.com.au/price-list.php)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180951177214?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180951177214?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Renno on August 14, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
I looked at one a while ago but couldn't justify the money. I ended up with one of those thicker Teflon sheets, works a treat, just remember not to cut it to the exact shape of the grill, BBQ needs room to breath otherwise you will get a nasty shock when it finally lights. Not good when you have to put up with the singed hair smell for the night..  :cheers:

Renno 
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GS on August 15, 2012, 07:19:47 AM
Interesting would last forever. Does not look like the plate has a lip around the edge though.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on August 15, 2012, 10:51:29 AM
Interesting would last forever. Does not look like the plate has a lip around the edge though.
I thought the same but after thinking about it the plate will sit down in the BBQ like the grill so the outer shell of the BBQ will stop the snags from rolling off ;D :cheers:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on September 08, 2012, 06:59:02 PM
Picked 1 up today at BBQ Galore $170.
I'm a flat BBQ plate man, I dont like black lines on my steak. ;D ;D :cheers:
Works awesome even heat no hot spots like regular stainless and super easy to clean. :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: aquadux on September 10, 2012, 07:23:54 AM
We have also been looking at the Weber but have been told that their are a few problem, apparently they are now made in China and they are not getting hot enough. Our local Weber Specialist has stopped stocking them, we are now looking at the new Beefeater Bugg.
Will let you know what we decided.

Richard
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: D4D on September 10, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
They never get super hot, you have to cook with the lid down. Sounds like your local Weber specialist has never cooked with one...
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Fun Police on September 10, 2012, 11:12:50 AM
Stainless is a crappy heat conductor.  Stick with the cast iron.

I've never had any luck with it, except for frypans etc, but they've got multiple layers of copper etc. to help with the heat.
Title: Re: Weber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on September 10, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Done
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: D4D on September 10, 2012, 11:38:14 AM
Listen here sport  >:( is it really necessary for you to make negative comments on every post I make. I was relating my own experience from using the plate which I found to be awesome, even heat no hot spots like regular stainless and super easy to clean. The weber guy didn't offer an opinion on them, he just  told me how much and handed me my change that's all.

Umm I was referring to aquadux's post not yours...

We have also been looking at the Weber but have been told that their are a few problem, apparently they are now made in China and they are not getting hot enough. Our local Weber Specialist has stopped stocking them, we are now looking at the new Beefeater Bugg.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Swannie on September 10, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
We have also been looking at the Weber but have been told that their are a few problem, apparently they are now made in China and they are not getting hot enough. Our local Weber Specialist has stopped stocking them, we are now looking at the new Beefeater Bugg.
Will let you know what we decided.

Richard
Hi Richard, I too am now looking at the beefeater bugg.. I have a 6 burner beef eater at home and love it.. But I really want to be a part of the jayco/weber family on here!!!   >:D
Greg
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on September 10, 2012, 06:03:40 PM
Stainless is a crappy heat conductor.  Stick with the cast iron.......

Agree 100%. I've found SS useless on BBQ's. EVERYTHING sticks to it, and as FP says, it's a crappy heat conductor.

I had a SS plate and grill on my home BBQ, but have gone back to a mild steel plate and cast grill. MUCH better.....
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: D4D on September 10, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Cast is good until you forget to take it out when you pressure wash the bbq, they don't last too long after that  :-[

Looks like I made griz's ignore list too...
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on September 10, 2012, 08:17:12 PM
Topnotch™ barbeque plates are manufactured from a special grade of heat transferring stainless steel. It is the composition of the material which gives the Topnotch™ Stainless Steel Hot Plates the special ability to transfer and retain heat as well as being corrosion resistant. Topnotch™ Barbeque Plates are paint & chemical free, and extremely durable.
 
Past problems associated with the use of Stainless Steel, like poor heat transfer and food sticking have been overcome through intense research and development of the material used to produce the Topnotch™ range of Products.
I didn't have trouble with my steak sticking to the plate. Very impressed indeed.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Macca357 on September 10, 2012, 08:45:37 PM
That's bad news to hear that Weber Q's are being made in China. I have had one on the wish list for ages. I even checked them out again last weekend at BBQs Galore Richmond and felt that the lid seemed thinner and less stable than I remember. Can any original Weber Q owners confirm country of manufacture?
After working in the BBQ industry for near on 10 years my personal preference for even heat, sizzle and taste is a good quality cast iron plate. I have been using a top notch stainless steel plate for 2 years and can confirm the meat does not stick, almost as good as cast iron for heat transfer and great to clean. For me it is a good compromise.
 :cheers: Macca.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GOLDIE on September 10, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Just wondering how long does the plate take to heat up. I love my webber with the grill as I think nothing cooks meat better. that does look interesting
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on September 11, 2012, 06:26:48 AM
Just wondering how long does the plate take to heat up. I love my webber with the grill as I think nothing cooks meat better. that does look interesting
On the packaging they quote 12 min. so that is what I tried and it was awesome.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: 4wd26 on September 11, 2012, 07:47:31 AM
That's bad news to hear that Weber Q's are being made in China. I have had one on the wish list for ages. I even checked them out again last weekend at BBQs Galore Richmond and felt that the lid seemed thinner and less stable than I remember. Can any original Weber Q owners confirm country of manufacture?
After working in the BBQ industry for near on 10 years my personal preference for even heat, sizzle and taste is a good quality cast iron plate. I have been using a top notch stainless steel plate for 2 years and can confirm the meat does not stick, almost as good as cast iron for heat transfer and great to clean. For me it is a good compromise.
 :cheers: Macca.

I'll have a look tonight- not sure what/ where I'll find any reference to country of manufacture though.
any ideas
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Mrs smith on September 11, 2012, 09:06:09 AM
We have recently bought a Q and I had a look for details of manufacture, on the Q it's self I couldn't see much but on the box it states "designed and manufactured in the USA".
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: SteveandViv on September 12, 2012, 08:29:21 AM
Topnotch™ barbeque plates are manufactured from a special grade of heat transferring stainless steel. It is the composition of the material which gives the Topnotch™ Stainless Steel Hot Plates the special ability to transfer and retain heat as well as being corrosion resistant. Topnotch™ Barbeque Plates are paint & chemical free, and extremely durable.
 
Past problems associated with the use of Stainless Steel, like poor heat transfer and food sticking have been overcome through intense research and development of the material used to produce the Topnotch™ range of Products.
I didn't have trouble with my steak sticking to the plate. Very impressed indeed.

Steak shouldn't stick to any plate and the only reason it does is people try to turn it to quick before the caramelize has occurred on the cooked surface. Stainless is a poor conductor and always will be. That's why stainless pan have copper bottoms to help with the transfer of heat. Spent 17 years using them in the kitchen. Aluminium is the best and used the most but in the olden days (gawd) and was the plate of choice on almost all restaurant hot plates (easy to clean up with pineapple juice (Acid) as well through the chemical reaction, after you scrub them with grease cleaner ( :o )

Anyway I think as long as your happy then great. It does help to understand the rhetoric around it though I think.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 08:11:42 AM
Topnotch™ barbeque plates are manufactured from a special grade of heat transferring stainless steel. It is the composition of the material which gives the Topnotch™ Stainless Steel Hot Plates the special ability to transfer and retain heat as well as being corrosion resistant. Topnotch™ Barbeque Plates are paint & chemical free, and extremely durable.
 
Past problems associated with the use of Stainless Steel, like poor heat transfer and food sticking have been overcome through intense research and development of the material used to produce the Topnotch™ range of Products.
I didn't have trouble with my steak sticking to the plate. Very impressed indeed.

A bit of a thread dig, but.........

I was using a Topnotch™ SS barbeque plate and SS grill on my 4 burner at home. Cost plenty..........everything stuck.........useless.........

IMO, mild steel is the ONLY way to go.........
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Kalebjarrod on January 13, 2013, 09:04:53 AM
Why not use the webber designed cast iron plate?

We find that works well?
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: kylarama on January 13, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
$170 for a hot plate :o
I thought the genuine Weber one was pricey.

Removed the wire handles, deburred the ends with a grinder and I got one of those $20 cast iron plates for a 2 burner camp stove to fit a baby Q.

(http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv260/kylarama/20130112_131935-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 09:31:48 AM
$170 for a hot plate :o
I thought the genuine Weber one was pricey.

Removed the wire handles, deburred the ends with a grinder and I got one of those $20 cast iron plates for a 2 burner camp stove to fit a baby Q.

(http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv260/kylarama/20130112_131935-1.jpg)


Yep, I agree.......excellent work....... :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on January 13, 2013, 09:49:49 AM
A bit of a thread dig, but.........

I was using a Topnotch™ SS barbeque plate and SS grill on my 4 burner at home. Cost plenty..........everything stuck.........useless.........

IMO, mild steel is the ONLY way to go.........
Just leave them there a little longer and they will be ready to turn as soon as you can move them. You maybe had the heat too high as well. I have used this hot plate a lot now and it is AWESOME to say the least. Cast & mild steel are crap. IMO
Topnotch plates are not straight stainless they are a composite material.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 11:10:13 AM
Just leave them there a little longer and they will be ready to turn as soon as you can move them. You maybe had the heat too high as well. I have used this hot plate a lot now and it is AWESOME to say the least. Cast & mild steel are crap. IMO
Topnotch plates are not straight stainless they are a composite material.

I've tried Topnotch plates. My FIL still uses one........I used it a couple of weeks ago. They display all the traits that they are supposed to resolve.....poor heat retention/distribution, sticking food etc.
My Topnotch plate and SS grill now live in the cupboard under the BBQ.

I'll stay with mild steel, thanks..... :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on January 13, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
I've tried Topnotch plates. My FIL still uses one........I used it a couple of weeks ago. They display all the traits that they are supposed to resolve.....poor heat retention/distribution, sticking food etc.
My Topnotch plate and SS grill now live in the cupboard under the BBQ.

I'll stay with mild steel, thanks..... :cup: :cup: :cup:
Each to his own just don't bag it cos' you have no idea how to use it :cheers:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 02:11:00 PM
Each to his own just don't bag it cos' you have no idea how to use it :cheers:

Just giving my impression of the Topnotch product.......sorry if it doesn't suit you.
They're not cheap. I paid good money for it, and I'll call it as I see it........

So, they need a "special technique" to stop food sticking??  ::)..........none needed with mild steel........

Getting a bit defensive about our shiny hot plate, aren't we??...... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on January 13, 2013, 03:16:35 PM
Just giving my impression of the Topnotch product.......sorry if it doesn't suit you.
They're not cheap. I paid good money for it, and I'll call it as I see it........

So, they need a "special technique" to stop food sticking??  ::)..........none needed with mild steel........

Getting a bit defensive about our shiny hot plate, aren't we??...... ;D ;D
Not at all just can't stand to think of good steak being ruined when there is no reason for it. Pre heat the Webber for 10-15 min then reduce heat to low slap those steaks on and if you cant move em dont touch em. When they move flip and repeat = perfect medium cooked steaks. :cheers:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: D4D on January 13, 2013, 03:31:03 PM
... = perfect medium cooked steaks. :cheers:

Dude medium is crucifying a steak, it needs to moo when you cut it!
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Swannie on January 13, 2013, 03:53:17 PM
Just buy a beefeater BUGG, then all will be perfect  ;D
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
Just buy a beefeater BUGG, then all will be perfect  ;D

Did someone leave the door open........??......... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 03:56:34 PM
Dude medium is crucifying a steak, it needs to moo when you cut it!

Yep..........
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Paul (SA) on January 13, 2013, 04:02:46 PM
Agree on the overcooking of your steak....I like my steak served with a faint pulse...
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: MarkGU on January 13, 2013, 04:02:50 PM
Yep..........
its gotta be well done. not chasing and beating it to death with a stick  8)
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 04:04:12 PM
its gotta be well done.........

......shoe leather......... ;D
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on January 13, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
Dude medium is crucifying a steak, it needs to moo when you cut it!
Agree on the overcooking of your steak....I like my steak served with a faint pulse...
I see I am waisting my time trying to educate you pair. Continue to chase  your beef around the paddock with 2 pieces of bread in hand if you want. I will continue to eat perfectly cooked steak. :cheers:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: qlddsl on January 13, 2013, 04:21:57 PM
Agree on the overcooking of your steak....I like my steak served with a faint pulse...

Agree, to quote 'the cowboy way' (a great movie) whack off it's horns, wipe its nasty a$$ and slap it on a plate!

On a serious side (apart from hotplate) how does everyone find the webbers mainly the baby q  or other brands
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: MarkGU on January 13, 2013, 04:36:20 PM
......shoe leather......... ;D
hey Geoff.........yeah but i have ALL my teeth  ;D
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: D4D on January 13, 2013, 04:39:17 PM
I will continue to eat perfectly cooked steak. :cheers:

Not if you ask a chef.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GUEY on January 13, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
Not if you ask a chef.

Thats cause most chefs are lazy gits. If your a chef and can't cook a very well done steak thats still juicy on the inside..... find another job!!!!!
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: D4D on January 13, 2013, 05:01:16 PM
It actually depends on the cut and quality of the meat. Sure murder a Coles bargain rump well done, but don't cook a King Island eye fillet anything other than rare or medium rare.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GUEY on January 13, 2013, 05:09:24 PM
It actually depends on the cut and quality of the meat. Sure murder a Coles bargain rump well done, but don't cook a King Island eye fillet anything other than rare or medium rare.

It is each to their own. Me, I'll eat it after its been through an incinerator. I'm not a fussy eater.

Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: MarkGU on January 13, 2013, 06:24:08 PM
It is each to their own. Me, I'll eat it after its been through an incinerator. I'm not a fussy eater.
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Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 08:13:56 PM
It is each to their own. Me, I'll eat it after its been through an incinerator. I'm not a fussy eater.

....seems you're just as fussy as those that prefer their steak a bit bloody........ ;D ;D



Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on January 13, 2013, 08:14:39 PM
Not if you ask a chef.
Oh! You mean like that 1/2 cooked crap they serve up on tv with blood running out of it, that $h1t will make you crook.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GUEY on January 13, 2013, 08:35:18 PM
....seems you're just as fussy as those that prefer their steak a bit bloody........ ;D ;D

I haven't said that I don't like it bloody have I. :angel:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: GeoffA on January 13, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
I haven't said that I don't like it bloody have I. :angel:

No, you haven't......... :cup:
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: SteveandViv on January 13, 2013, 11:26:07 PM
Thats cause most chefs are lazy gits. If your a chef and can't cook a very well done steak thats still juicy on the inside..... find another job!!!!!

I agree with that. Being a Sous Chef ( way back when) I usually had the job of Grill and Sauces, that a Sous Chefs job. I only ever had 3 steaks sent back and you can cook a good well done steak, no matter what you all think.

I reckon your all thinking of the steak that your mates throw on the BBQ during the NRL grand final as being well done - it's not. A well done steak is just not bleeding, it's also not burnt. The time between rare and well done is minutes, not tens of minutes like you tend to see.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: kylarama on January 14, 2013, 05:30:41 AM
Medium Rare... anything more is over cooked!

Only poor food handling can make you sick 8)
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: griz066 on January 14, 2013, 07:31:56 AM
Medium Rare... anything more is over cooked!

Only poor food handling can make you sick 8)
What like having your veges or salad swimming in a pool of blood on your plate from an under cooked steak. Y U K !!!!!
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: Paul (SA) on January 14, 2013, 10:22:49 AM
Wow. We are all different in the way we eat food. So relieved. Insert sarcastic smiley here.
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: gibbo301 on January 14, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Rare medium rare welldone incinerated if your supplying the meat and beer i will be there and only complain if the beer runs out  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Webber Q Question
Post by: kylarama on January 14, 2013, 04:35:02 PM
What like having your veges or salad swimming in a pool of blood on your plate from an under cooked steak. Y U K !!!!!

I hate that too.  If you rest your steak after cooking prior to plateing up, or any type of meat for that matter, it won't happen.

Each to there own.  I'll eat a well done steak if someone is nice enough to cook me dinner and I'll cook a well done steak if someone requests one. :cheers: