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Title: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: becboo on July 30, 2012, 10:13:59 PM
This is as far as I am aware

My sister in law works/ WORKED for The Tenancy Advice & Advocacy Service (government). She has lost her job due to Newman deciding on the cuts

This goverent department is paid for by the interest on our bonds. Whether we pay them as a tenant or "receive" them as a landlord. They look after tenants who get ripped off by landlords. ( I am a landlord not a tenant)
I wonder what our QLD government will do with these funds??  Not look after tenants I bet!!  Or the people like my sister in law who has the ability and knowledge to help.
Bloody do gooders and government   Gggrrrr !!!   

Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: prodigyrf on July 30, 2012, 11:18:12 PM
Don't know much about Qld finances other than what I read-
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Campbell-Newman-Queensland-bankrupt-rating-pd20120730-WNRXV?OpenDocument&src=mp (http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Campbell-Newman-Queensland-bankrupt-rating-pd20120730-WNRXV?OpenDocument&src=mp)
but it has an all too familiar ring to it after years of Labor Gummint. SA is the same so hopefully the kids and grandkids are up to the task of sorting out the mess, the poor Bs. It builds character they tell me.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: grafy82 on July 31, 2012, 04:12:55 AM
Hate to see anyone loose their job but if anything they are casualties of Anna Bligh and the massive mess/debt that she left this state in. The people voted in Campbell to fix it up and that's all he's trying to do.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Symon on July 31, 2012, 06:03:29 AM
I don't like to see anyone lose their job, but QLD really needs to tighten the belt.  The mess Bligh left us with is terrible, Newman is doing what needs to be done, but to be honest I don't think he has the spine to make all the changes that are needed either.

We are coming into some difficult times.  As some on here know I work for one of the big miners and even my job is looking a bit shaky due to events in recent weeks.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: rockman on July 31, 2012, 06:54:10 AM
Looks like we might be in the same boat ... indirectly , but the same .

I have earthmoving equipment .
The building industry has stopped in Cairns and surroundings area's due to the uncertainty of job security .
The local Councils budget has dropped dramatically and they are not game enough to spend any money .

The way things are looking I will be shutting by business down within a month or so  :'(
As for a plan ' B ' ... cant seem to find one at the moment .

Not looking real flash in the short term

Cheers

Anyone want to buy a camper trailer .... ;D
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: richee on July 31, 2012, 09:00:43 AM
My sister in law works/ WORKED for The Tenancy Advice & Advocacy Service (government). She has lost her job due to Newman deciding on the cuts.
They look after tenants who get ripped off by landlords.

Hmm parellel universe - My sister in law works there too. She told me she has 2 months till the service is closed.

Unfortunate part is that the minister for housing doesnt really know what it is that they do but I believe he will very soon!

Richard
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Matto on July 31, 2012, 09:48:59 AM
This is as far as I am aware
Has been going on for a couple of months unfortunately. Friends in Cairns have lost their jobs (and foudn new ones, thankfully), friends down south have been told to sack half of their depts and then a month later, sack half of those who survived the first round (but keep to the same deadlines/projects/etc).

It is unfortunately, and I'd hate to have my job yanked out from under me. As Symon says though, I think it needs to be done.

The building industry has stopped in Cairns and surroundings area's due to the uncertainty of job security .
To be honest though, the building industry here has been pretty much dead since the GFC took Hedleys and CEC down the drain. Granted, you'll have a much more accurate picture of the industry than I would, but I'd have thought that the CNS building industry has been a bad place to be for a number of years now? Obviously sorry to hear that it's taking such a toll on your business Rockman - I sure hope you can come up with a plan B.

Good luck to all.
Matto
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: rockman on July 31, 2012, 11:26:48 AM
Has been going on for a couple of months unfortunately. Friends in Cairns have lost their jobs (and foudn new ones, thankfully), friends down south have been told to sack half of their depts and then a month later, sack half of those who survived the first round (but keep to the same deadlines/projects/etc).

It is unfortunately, and I'd hate to have my job yanked out from under me. As Symon says though, I think it needs to be done.
To be honest though, the building industry here has been pretty much dead since the GFC took Hedleys and CEC down the drain. Granted, you'll have a much more accurate picture of the industry than I would, but I'd have thought that the CNS building industry has been a bad place to be for a number of years now? Obviously sorry to hear that it's taking such a toll on your business Rockman - I sure hope you can come up with a plan B.

Good luck to all.
Matto

Matto ,

Things haven't been good for awhile but with a few leaving the area , it wasn't too bad .
Other things have taken a toll on the bank account haven't helped .... paying for a machine for 19months that I haven't seen .... paying for the solicitor to start court action on the said company ..... people dropping their rates to below cost just to survive ... it all adds up in the end .

Still no plan b through ... went and had a chat to my bank manager this morning .... he is in the same way and is looking at pulling the pin on his franchise / business .

Things are not looking good out there for alot of people .

Cheers
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Mallory Black on July 31, 2012, 12:39:43 PM
Before banking I used to be Residential property manager. I never had a whole lot to do with the TAAC because if a tenant deserved looking after then that's what we did for them. I had more to do with the RTA and magistrates courts dealing with the naughty ones.

I do feel that there is an element of duplication of some of the services that RTA provides so I'm hoping that maybe the RTA could be expanded to somehow assist with some of the more vital functions of the TAAC lke helping tenants to draft letters, tribunal processes stuff like that.

And some of the other things that TAAC did such as disabled tenants and vulnerable members of the community could be moved to other departments?  just a thought...

If you feel that's worthwhile why not contact Dr Flegg and Can Do

Minister for Housing and Public Works
Hon Dr Bruce Flegg MP
PO Box 2457 BRISBANE QLD 4001
Phone: (07) 3237 1832 Fax: (07) 3012 9017
Email: HousingandPublicworks@ministerial.qld.gov.au

Queensland Premier
Hon Campbell Newman MP
GPO Box 15185 CITY EAST QLD 4002
Phone: (07) 3224 4500 Fax: (07) 3221 1809
Email: thepremier@premiers.qld.gov.au

PS thisisnotapoliticalmesageidon'tgiveatosshowyouvotedletsjust make it work!

Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Bird on July 31, 2012, 01:12:42 PM
is this part of it?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/two-thousand-jobs-to-go-in-transport-department-20120731-23bk7.html (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/two-thousand-jobs-to-go-in-transport-department-20120731-23bk7.html)
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: prodigyrf on July 31, 2012, 03:12:39 PM
Sadly this economic incompetence always hits the grunts on the ground, ward or counter rather than the layers of middle management flunkies and their 'meetings bloody meetings' and self-justification, psychobabble output.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Bird on July 31, 2012, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: Symon
I don't like to see anyone lose their job, but QLD really needs to tighten the belt.  The mess Bligh left us with is terrible, Newman is doing what needs to be done, but to be honest I don't think he has the spine to make all the changes that are needed either.
From what friends that lived in Vic at the time told me, I think this is what Jeff Kennett did in Victoria..
Turned it round in a couple of years, to the massive dismay and annoyance of the workers who lost this and that, but nobody wanted to see the bigger picture. He was very unpopular, and got the pork sword ASAP.. Since then, Victoria hasnt had a leader worth pissing on. Neither has Qld, NSW, WA, SA, NT, ACT, Tas, or Aus
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: achjimmy on July 31, 2012, 03:24:40 PM
yep how about this for a bit of PS cost cutting, given with modern day communication it is easier than ever to communicate with the masses how about halfing the number of politicians? i reckon QLD could be well represented by 40-50 politicians
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Symon on July 31, 2012, 03:38:02 PM
yep how about this for a bit of PS cost cutting, given with modern day communication it is easier than ever to communicate with the masses how about halfing the number of politicians? i reckon QLD could be well represented by 40-50 politicians

QLD already has half the amount of politicians than other states.  QLD does not have an upper house.

If you want to save money, get rid of State governments entirely.  A three tier system is just unproductive, we should only have local and federal levels of government, the state level is just a waste.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Teabag on July 31, 2012, 06:48:49 PM
I personally think its too much too soon. Having too many people hitting the job market at the same time hurts confidence across the board. The way LNP are really knocking the QLD financial situation is bewildering. Yes, there are issues that need fixing but again, keep knocking our economy and confidence decreases and people stop spending, stop building etc. Whilst the States financial position is poor, the LNP should try and build confidence and stop bagging it out. I think Labour did a poor job but we did get though some pretty bad natural disasters the also put a huge dint on the coffers....I'm for cuts but more controlled and a little slower as I think this may hurt the State further.....This is IMO....
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: MrCruza on July 31, 2012, 06:52:37 PM
Got my marching orders last week. Used to work for Goprint.....
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Symon on July 31, 2012, 07:02:20 PM
Sorry to hear that John, you really haven't had a good run lately at all mate.
Title: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: BigJules on July 31, 2012, 07:16:13 PM
It will be fine, they will all get jobs in the mining boom...

Yeah, right. I have a sense that government has lost sight of how minor an employer the mines are, but the supposed demand for labour gets trotted out time and again.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: tagman on July 31, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
I have worked for two businesses that went broke/shut down on me. (not govt)

I decided to start a business. Now I have two small businesses.(micro really)

Although not an easy solution - at least when things turn to s@&t, I only need to look in the mirror to find someone to blame.

Maybe not a solution for everyone.


Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Symon on July 31, 2012, 08:08:32 PM
It will be fine, they will all get jobs in the mining boom...

Yeah, right. I have a sense that government has lost sight of how minor an employer the mines are, but the supposed demand for labour gets trotted out time and again.

The mines themselves aren't that big, but if you consider all the industries that support the sector it becomes significant.  I can recall reading somewhere that the ratio was something like 1:6 - for every mine job 6 more are created to support it.

Anyways, the miners are downsizing.  Capital is tight, and the high dollar is not helping exports.  Lots of projects have either been shelved or are under review at the moment.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: rockman on July 31, 2012, 08:14:04 PM
So with all the ' Can Do ' cutting jobs and the mines down-sizing , what do you do ?
Still trying to work out plan 'B' ?
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Bird on July 31, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
It will be fine, they will all get jobs in the mining boom...

Yeah, right. I have a sense that government has lost sight of how minor an employer the mines are, but the supposed demand for labour gets trotted out time and again.
Nope, they havent lost sight.. but the majority of the nation doesnt realise they are a minor employer.. the average numpty (me included) has no idea on how many they do hire/fire.. So while we dont know, and think all is good in that sense, they will keep it on replay.

Everytime I speak to someone from back home, they are moving "to the mines"
Our Perth office cannot compete with teh wages and cannot get staff at all...
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: GS on July 31, 2012, 08:24:21 PM
Got my marching orders last week. Used to work for Goprint.....

Sorry to hear, I am also in Public Housing and Works and am experiencing the uncertainty at the moment.

Bloody sick of the public servant bashing at the moment though.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: McGirr on July 31, 2012, 08:33:45 PM

Interesting talking to some clients over the last week.

One works in the health department and is seeing ridiculous things being done regarding job cuts as the cost to fix the payroll system is unbelievable.

Another client works high up for comalco and he said they are closing smelters in Qld and across the country due to the carbon tax costs and they are looking at Canada as its 1/3 rd of the cost to do things.

Talking to some sellers in the market they are very nervous with what's happening and are struggling to pay bills.

One property in Cairns goes mortgagee every 11 days. I have had 4 clients this year that just handed the keys to the bank.

Sad times.

Mark
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Estelle on July 31, 2012, 08:58:32 PM

And Australia is supposed to be well off at the moment . Imagine how people are coping in other parts of the world.

Anyone wish to move to Spain or Greece or...
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: briann532 on July 31, 2012, 09:03:41 PM

Bloody sick of the public servant bashing at the moment though.

Yeah as usual a few bad eggs give the rest a bad name..........

My only gripe with the public sector at the moment is that it is becoming far too top heavy........
If they want to cost cut, get rid of 90 % of management that doesn't "manage"

Brian
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Bird on July 31, 2012, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: briann532
If they want to cost cut, get rid of 90 % of management that doesn't "manage"
That sadly is most business' in AU...
I've never understood why they dont...
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Matto on August 01, 2012, 01:54:30 PM
Other things have taken a toll on the bank account haven't helped .... paying for a machine for 19months that I haven't seen .... paying for the solicitor to start court action on the said company ..... people dropping their rates to below cost just to survive ... it all adds up in the end .
That sucks mate. Sounds like everything's just built up and up on you. No good.

All the best with it - I do hope you can come up with a plan. Hand the keys of the non-existant machine to the bank, pack up the car and camper, and head off...

Good luck.
Matto :)
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Eski on August 01, 2012, 08:55:30 PM
When they cut 5.5 Billion from the Defence budget my contract got the chop even though I was classed as essential staff....

Many others on base went too.  Enquires on base for work showed everyone was down sizing due to budget cuts...

All my contacts were laying off staff too, so no luck there..   The APS jobs list just dried up, died, nothing, gone.

A tradesman today was saying it was getting hard to be payed as about 4 builders a week are closing down...

The future in Australia is going to be interesting. 
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: xcvator on August 01, 2012, 09:22:46 PM
Yeah, it's not just qld, it's all over, I,ve been in this business for over 20 years with a client list running in the 100,s, but my phone has not been ringing for months now. Just glad my plant and equipment is paid for and swmbo is still in a job or we'd be up s**t creek without a paddle, and don't even think about trying to sell the gear atm (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)  Only good thing is I get to sort through the camping and fishing gear a bit  :laugh: 
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: rockman on August 01, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
Yes ... where will it end ... when australia is on it knee's
and when will it end ?
When the government employee's are losing there jobs .. not much confidence out there for the rest of us ...
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Moopla on August 02, 2012, 12:14:25 AM
I can relate to these posts. My wife works in the qld public service and her contract is up for review. I work in manufacturing in Brisbane and we have our EBA up for
negotiation. With the carbon tax my job security isn't looking great with the cost of importing far better than manufacturing locally.  Things don't sound great for the wife either. Couple young kids and a mortgage. Great times to be a qldr. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on August 02, 2012, 05:43:18 AM
Fark me !! What a depressing read.

I recommend that plan B, for a lot of folk, would be a quick crash course on medicine. I see a LOT of people requiring an optorectomy (go on, google it) now and in the future.

Hope you have a better day today. I'm off to finish my half FULL cup of coffee.

Shane.
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: rockman on August 02, 2012, 05:49:09 AM
Fark me !! What a depressing read.

I recommend that plan B, for a lot of folk, would be a quick crash course on medicine. I see a LOT of people requiring an optorectomy (go on, google it) now and in the future.

Hope you have a better day today. I'm off to finish my half FULL cup of coffee.

Shane.

Mate ... I am the ultimate half full guy .
Yes it is depressing read ... but this is reality and what people are going through
This will hurt alot of families very badly in the near future ... myself included .
Title: Re: First casualty of Campbell Newman
Post by: xcvator on August 02, 2012, 08:28:29 AM
Quote
optorectomy
This is a surgical procedure to remove the nerve that runs between the eyeball and the asshole, with a desired result of improving the ****ty outlook of the patient
Hey footy shorts, where can I get this done asap  :laugh: