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Title: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Cloud Basher on June 08, 2012, 08:17:26 AM
http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-olympic-swimmers-nick-darcy-and-kenrick-monk-pose-with-guns-in-facebook-photo/story-e6frfkvr-1226388480478 (http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-olympic-swimmers-nick-darcy-and-kenrick-monk-pose-with-guns-in-facebook-photo/story-e6frfkvr-1226388480478)

Regardless of what you think if Nick Darcy, this beat up is friggen rediculous.  They are posing with legal firearms in a gun store, legally.  So now the Australian Olympic committee are banning guys from undertaking legal activities and sharing them with their friends.  I wonder how our Olympic shooters feel...

And to say they are 'high powered weapons' again is a media headline grab. They are not high powered weapons.  It is two Colt style handguns and two shotguns. Neither of which are classesed as 'high powered weapons' And Gun Control Australia comparing these firearms to ones Martin Bryant used is a blatant lie.  He never used shotguns or pistols at all.

I do think 'people' are still angry that he is even in the team and are trying to use this to get rid of him.  But I think it extremely unfair to use pictures of something which is legal to show their dislike of a certain person in our Olympic team.

CB
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: GeeTee on June 08, 2012, 08:21:25 AM
yeah it's a crock of poo poos. Two blokes havin a bit of giggle in a gun shop. Plenty of Aussies have done that... and yes, highly disrespectful to the honourable Olympic sport of shooting
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: D4D on June 08, 2012, 08:21:49 AM
God bless America :)

(http://blkmav.com/images/357.jpg)
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: GU_Thomo on June 08, 2012, 08:55:44 AM
Are you surprised?
We are talking about the Australian media and the Olympics, the worst event ever created.

This is about $$$$ not his rights.

Cheers
Parry
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: BigJules on June 08, 2012, 09:10:34 AM
I was enormously disappointed at the time dedicated to this on ABC radio this morning. This is not real news or even a discussion worthy of continuing. They did what young, and some not so young, blokes do. They found something different in another country.

It is hard to see how they could have breached any social media policy too, as they haven't done anything illegal. The PC Brigade are taking over.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: richee on June 08, 2012, 09:13:21 AM
Yep a beat up alright BUT it was a pretty stupid thing for these 2 to do given the trouble they have both been in.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: spargo on June 08, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
Theres only one thing worse than Australian Olympic swimmers posing with Guns, and that's Australian Olympic shooters posing in Speedos..  ;)
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: namoidowns on June 08, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
What makes it worse is that the morning shows are dragging out the so called "social commentators" to further beat up what is a nothing story
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: jk on June 08, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
Theres only one thing worse than Australian Olympic swimmers posing with Guns, and that's Australian Olympic shooters posing in Speedos..  ;)

PMSL  :cup: ...............That's funny.    I'm guessing it was a slow day for media stories, gotta fill that front page with something that will grab the public attention.
Title: Swimmers and guns
Post by: BigJules on June 08, 2012, 12:18:25 PM
They don't seem to be getting much media advice. Now they're apologizing for any offense caused. When you haven't done anything wrong, apologizing gives weight to the false accusers I reckon.

I'd like to see them say "gee, I don't think we broke any laws, we didn't hurt anyone, we didn't buy them, we're really surprised there is so much reaction to a photo. What did we do wrong?"
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: lov2getaway on June 08, 2012, 12:32:05 PM
They don't seem to be getting much media advice. Now they're apologizing for any offense caused. When you haven't done anything wrong, apologizing gives weight to the false accusers I reckon.

I'd like to see them say "gee, I don't think we broke any laws, we didn't hurt anyone, we didn't buy them, we're really surprised there is so much reaction to a photo. What did we do wrong?"

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Why apologise when they did nothing wrong???
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Bird on June 08, 2012, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: BigJules
When you haven't done anything wrong, apologizing gives weight to the false accusers I reckon.

I'd like to see them say "gee, I don't think we broke any laws, we didn't hurt anyone, we didn't buy them, we're really surprised there is so much reaction to a photo. What did we do wrong?"
Couldnt agree more... WTF - they are holiday snaps! We all have dumb photos like that somewhere from a trip in life.



THe UsA.. when i lived there for a year in South Dakota, the local store called Kesslers blew me away.. I walked in through the door and you had 2 turnstyles. one to the food, one to the Bottlo... The first thing you walked through in Bottle shop was the beer section through to the gun section, then the spirits section, then it went out into the tobacco area, then the checkout... I was dumbfounded... They wouldnt let me take photos sadly :(

The Walmart carpark was even more eye opening.. Amongst the cars were dozens of Pickups, with gunracks on the inside of the cab on back window with guns, and with windows open, and in some cases keys in the car. Nobody thought it was unusual....
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Hoyks on June 08, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
I have a picture of my Mum posing with a pair of pearl handled .45's and low slung holsters.

Naughty girl, they should have sent her home from the Vietnam war for carrying on like that!

If you are in the public eye, Face-Book is your own worst enemy. Publicity is the other, if Swimming Australia hadn't told them to pull the pictures and told everyone that they had been told to remove the pictures, do you think anyone would have cared?

In this instance I think the press release from Swimming Australia in reply to the coalition for gun control should have been 'So?'. By pandering to special interest groups the story got out of their control, became a big (non)story which in turn has been prejudicial to the image of Swimming Australia. By treating the allegation of wrong doing with the contempt it deserved it would have starved it of oxygen and no one would have cared.

Oh, and the guns are just like the ones used in Port Arthur, they are big and black and mean looking ::)
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: cruisindub on June 08, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
My father in law is an Olympic God medalist rower. Albeit from the 84 games.
I don't know about this story. No comment on that.
Butvi despise the fact that the nasty one who king hit the other guy is now going to the Olympics and has refused to pay any compensation to the victim.
Whats more important.?
Respect and dignity. Being responsibke, doing the right thing. And moral well being, or a chance of a medal for the scumbag and some points to Australia.?
sorry, but swimming Australia and the politics of the Olympics has dissilusiond me.

I'll not be watching it.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: McGirr on June 08, 2012, 02:11:34 PM

What a load of crap !!!

Who cares about the photos.

Mark
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Bird on June 08, 2012, 02:28:46 PM
Quote from: cruisindub
and the politics of the Olympics has dissilusiond me.
I'll not be watching it.

I must be the odd one out, I've never had an interest in watching it...  The whole games thing doesnt interest me.

swimming? Like the aussie team disqualified for jumping in th water after the race to celebrate... what a ****ed up rule..

although the beach volleyball is interesting


and this always made me laugh
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1050000/images/_1051949_jane300.jpg)
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Draggin on June 08, 2012, 02:58:10 PM
Theres only one thing worse than Australian Olympic swimmers posing with Guns, and that's Australian Olympic shooters posing in Speedos..  ;)
With a line like this Spargo, I vote we get you on the "talk back shows" as an expert commentator
 :cup:
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Compass on June 08, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
This whole issue is just media BS to sell a product.  They should not apologise, nor should they have had to remove the photographs from the internet.  Whatever these young people have done in the past has been dealt with and has no bearing on this photograph issue.  The media had no right to sacrifice them for their own gain.  What has happened to "a fair go" in Australia?  Obviously the media doesn't believe in it. 
Sorry about the rant - just thought I'd add my support to the similar sentiments expressed above.
Eric.

Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: dazzler on June 08, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
I dont care if its a beat up, made up, lies or whatever. 

Darcy has a big debt to the Karma gods after declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying compensation.

Plus its the olympics - spoilt tax paid brats.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Mallory Black on June 08, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
I want Nick to go like a flaming hot bolt and win a medal
probably be the only think I want to see at the olympics
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: britts on June 08, 2012, 06:44:56 PM
1st I heard about it was here, what a media beatup ;D, we wont be watching the games for no other reason than we will be on the road from the 26th July  :cheers:
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Barrabart on June 08, 2012, 06:51:47 PM
What happens if one of our Olympic Shooters wins a medal? Is he/she allowed to get a photo taken with the medal and the firearm???

What a load of sh*t!!
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: gqcamper on June 08, 2012, 09:01:09 PM
I don't have a problem with the pics just the two morons in them.
Neither of them should even be in the team due to recent events, and darcy should be annoyed because it wasn't even him who posted the pics.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: MrHorsepower on June 08, 2012, 10:24:40 PM
Yep, sick of the PC-BS. First thing I thought of was the fact that if this was the shooting team an eyelid would not have been batted. If you look at the polls on the online news sites the masses are 75 for 25 against , these idiots need to listen to the PEOPLE !
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: speewa158 on June 09, 2012, 04:54:38 AM
Shouldnt the Olimpics be about how much money you can waste on white elephant sporting grounds . Also on how to syuff up the lives of the host countrys people having to pay in $ & extra wasting of resorces . Pumped up school sports event & drugs .
lm not what you call a fan
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: achjimmy on June 09, 2012, 08:45:51 AM
Yeah just a total load of crap. Darcy shouldn't be there but the photo is totally okay. Just reflects on the whole uptight bunch of arseholes that populate Australia today.
Title: Swimmers and guns
Post by: gacoxd on June 09, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
Does the Olympic shooting team have to go home if there is a photo of them in their speedos. This is absolute cock-knockery.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: CRW on June 09, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
I dont care if its a beat up, made up, lies or whatever. 

Darcy has a big debt to the Karma gods after declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying compensation.

Plus its the olympics - spoilt tax paid brats.

I agree Dazzler, Darcy is a grub, smashed up and stopped another's hope in winning a medal, was found guilty in a court of law, awarded to pay compensation to the victim of his assault then whimped out and declared bankruptcy,
The other idiot in the photo faked an attack on his person.

Real good ambassadors for Austraila - NOT, two assholes who shouldn't even have been selected to represent Australia

Cheers

Carl
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Garry H on June 09, 2012, 10:45:27 PM
What happens if one of our Olympic Shooters wins a medal? Is he/she allowed to get a photo taken with the medal and the firearm???

What a load of sh*t!!

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side issue:
the TV news here in Adelaide (channel 7 and ch9) didn't even have the decency to mention the word "pistol" in the report the day that the olympic team was announced, even though the Chapmans from SA are the only father/daughter combination to ever compete in the same sport in the same olympics. Fat chance of a photo getting printed if the media wont even mention the word "pistol"
Chappie won a medal in the last Commonwealth games and it barely rated a mention............
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Bill on June 10, 2012, 07:47:38 AM
Well not only was this story blown all out of proportion (needlessly) but the two have now been "punished".
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/06/09/DArcy_Monk_punished_for_photos_by_AOC_759306.html (http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/06/09/DArcy_Monk_punished_for_photos_by_AOC_759306.html)
So what have they been punished for?
Posting inoffensive pictures (well inofensive to all but about 10% of the Australian population) of something they did that is 100% legal.
What a joke...
Bill
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Bennlexx on June 10, 2012, 04:46:51 PM
Sure it's a beat up but did like the caption in one of the papers "Dumb and Dumber"  Says it all!!
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: drrnadms on June 10, 2012, 04:51:02 PM
They need to stop this rubbish and start thinking that we have better athletes in other sports who do more, but it's always the spoil swimmer who get all the funding and riches. It's about time the funding for the athletes change as most of our swimmer earn a lot of money and the rest are forgotten.

All up who cares that they posed with guns, big deal it was lawful. The Olympic committee need to shut up and do something for everyone in sport in stead of making fools of all our sport men and women.
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Bird on June 12, 2012, 12:42:48 PM
They need to stop this rubbish and start thinking that we have better athletes in other sports who do more, but it's always the spoil swimmer who get all the funding and riches. It's about time the funding for the athletes change as most of our swimmer earn a lot of money and the rest are forgotten.

All up who cares that they posed with guns, big deal it was lawful. The Olympic committee need to shut up and do something for everyone in sport in stead of making fools of all our sport men and women.
I always thought the olympics were supposed to be for amatuer sportspeople.... not fulltime professionals..
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: austastar on June 12, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
Gee,
    My mother had her photo on the front page of the paper with a rifle - no fuss then - she was in the 1956 Olympic eliminations though.
Oh and it was on the shooting team.


Is it jealousy or what that drives these numskull eejits writing drivel in the daily rags.


cheers
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Bird on June 12, 2012, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: CRW
I agree Dazzler, Darcy is a grub, smashed up and stopped another's hope in winning a medal, was found guilty in a court of law, awarded to pay compensation to the victim of his assault then whimped out and declared bankruptcy,
The other idiot in the photo faked an attack on his person.

Real good ambassadors for Austraila - NOT, two assholes who shouldn't even have been selected to represent Australia
I cant argue with that...
Title: Re: Swimmers and guns
Post by: Swaggie on June 12, 2012, 08:59:46 PM


Darcy has a big debt to the Karma gods after declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying compensation.


Yep totally agree..

I bet he paid for a decent Queens Council too..He shouldn't even be representing Australia with his form,good look for young kids.Sniper punching a team mate leaving terrible injuries..

I would be impressed with the monies he earned from the Olympics and if he wins medals to be sold off and paid to the victim as a goodwill gesture...