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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bird on May 29, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
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Well I'm in the market for some new tyres. The fronts are scalloped to hell to the point the car shakes on the freeway.
That fix is next - suspension :(
So I started with the cat, all good. ;D Then spoke with a mate that said to call a place I'd dealt with years before, so I did (more on that later).
Now, I understand that some tyre manufacturers (EG: Yoko, G'year, BFG) wont sell to all retailers - inc plenty I called, so some stores have to 'buy' them from other dealers to sell them to you, and everyone needs to make a living so it adds up real quick.
I have no issue with people making a living. But when you look at the differences, some smoke roll-ya-own, others smoke Gran Habano's...
So at home with a sick kid, I started calling around for 285/75x16 MTRs.
Now, the price differences are .. well you decide! The areas the stores are in also make a difference, with some of the inner city places being cheaper than the outer area ones (I see that as backwards!)
I'll start with prices each tyre askin for a price on 5 of them to be fitted in the next week - remember these are only 285's... I'd hate to price 315's or 17 or 18inch rims!!
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400
475
385
375
372
485
400
440
490
385
495
Bit of difference eh!
Then I called the tyre place I'd used before for MTR's years ago for my first set on the GU when I first got it. $510EA!(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked019.gif)(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/pig.jpg)
FIVE HUNDRED AND TEN - new club house leader!!!
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/rave.gif)
The bloke said, how does that compare with others. I said your not on the right planet. He asked for my best price, I told him, he said,
"yea no probs, we price match, I'll get permission off head office and call you in the morning"...(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/wtf.gif)?
I get a call back today...
Him 'who ever was selling at those prices is below cost..'
Me 'thats what I like to hear'...
him 'how does $336ea fitted and balanced sound?"
me 'Pardon?'
him '336'
me '...Call me when they arrive'....
he beat the best price, which I expected to be $5.00ea or something....
Down from $510 to <330? overnight (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/psycho.gif)..
Anyway, it pays to shop around on ****... insurance is another story like this...
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Well done mate, there is a lesson there.
I went through the same thing with the 150,000 service on the Prado.
varied from $925 to $611.
It certainly pays to do some research.
Ron
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Good work.............
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let me tell you... same goes for your credit card fees, if you don't ask you don't get
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You did well.
That is a big difference in price.
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Hope your little one is better. Next door 4 yo has a bronchial thing and had it for weeks. Sorry off topic.
Wayne
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Hope your little one is better. Next door 4 yo has a bronchial thing and had it for weeks. Sorry off topic.
Dr said theres heaps of the Bronchial things going around, but thankfully none at home.
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Dr said theres heaps of the Bronchial things going around, but thankfully none at home.
We had that last week...
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Geez, he was having a go the first time though.
I have grabbed 5x285/70R17 KM2s from the US, I reckon all up they'll be $350 each.
Our littlest has a similar thing too.
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That's the only problem being up here. One option and if you don't like it, drive for three days and then see how you go :'(
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Geez, he was having a go the first time though.
I have grabbed 5x285/70R17 KM2s from the US, I reckon all up they'll be $350 each.
Our littlest has a similar thing too.
I looked at the USA thing and gave up...
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I looked at the USA thing and gave up...
Me too, almost. The freight is the killer so once that was sorted it was game on.
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Me too, almost. The freight is the killer so once that was sorted it was game on.
yea, when I asked, the shipping was a bitch.
the price I got was over $400ea for BFG MT's landed... :(
Talkin with Muz about it, he said his mate tried too and 16inch tires there wasnt much saving on when he did it either, but 17's and 18's are massive savings.
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Well I'm in the market for some new tyres. The fronts are scalloped to hell to the point the car shakes on the freeway.
That fix is next - suspension :(
So I started with the cat, all good. ;D Then spoke with a mate that said to call a place I'd dealt with years before, so I did (more on that later).
Now, I understand that some tyre manufacturers (EG: Yoko, G'year, BFG) wont sell to all retailers - inc plenty I called, so some stores have to 'buy' them from other dealers to sell them to you, and everyone needs to make a living so it adds up real quick.
I have no issue with people making a living. But when you look at the differences, some smoke roll-ya-own, others smoke Gran Habano's...
So at home with a sick kid, I started calling around for 285/75x16 MTRs.
Now, the price differences are .. well you decide! The areas the stores are in also make a difference, with some of the inner city places being cheaper than the outer area ones (I see that as backwards!)
I'll start with prices each tyre askin for a price on 5 of them to be fitted in the next week - remember these are only 285's... I'd hate to price 315's or 17 or 18inch rims!!
$$
400
475
385
375
372
485
400
440
490
385
495
Bit of difference eh!
Then I called the tyre place I'd used before for MTR's years ago for my first set on the GU when I first got it. $510EA!(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked019.gif)(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/pig.jpg)
FIVE HUNDRED AND TEN - new club house leader!!!
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/rave.gif)
The bloke said, how does that compare with others. I said your not on the right planet. He asked for my best price, I told him, he said,
"yea no probs, we price match, I'll get permission off head office and call you in the morning"...(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/wtf.gif)?
I get a call back today...
Him 'who ever was selling at those prices is below cost..'
Me 'thats what I like to hear'...
him 'how does $336ea fitted and balanced sound?"
me 'Pardon?'
him '336'
me '...Call me when they arrive'....
he beat the best price, which I expected to be $5.00ea or something....
Down from $510 to <330? overnight (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/psycho.gif)..
Anyway, it pays to shop around on ****... insurance is another story like this...
Lost, I'll be looking for some new rubber when the Workmate arrives. There is no way I will be drivimg around with Dunlop Slipperrs I mean grippers. Any chance of the identity of said purchasee? >:D
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i always phone around...when you calculate the savings by the time it takes...can be well worth the effort.
also watch the broncial things ...more so with very young kids.....we just discovered that our 6 yr old has a damaged lung from getting broncialitis (could be spelt wrong) when she was 7wks and another baby died from it when she was in hospital....it can do some serious damage.
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Down from $510 to <330? overnight (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/psycho.gif)..
And that people, is why more & more do not give a toss about supporting local business! $180 just like that, & still a profit in there for 'em ::)
Well done letting your fingers do the walking :)
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yea, when I asked, the shipping was a bitch.
the price I got was over $400ea for BFG MT's landed... :(
Talkin with Muz about it, he said his mate tried too and 16inch tires there wasnt much saving on when he did it either, but 17's and 18's are massive savings.
Really I'm looking at 4 x 33x12.50 tyres shipped brand new from the US at about $800
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Those in Melbourne dont forget to support our local tyre dealer and wheeler. Black Diamond knows his stuff and will look after you
GG
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Those in Melbourne dont forget to support our local tyre dealer and wheeler. Black Diamond knows his stuff and will look after you
wasmy first port of call ;)
dont expect him to go losin' cash...
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Down from $510 to <330? overnight (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/psycho.gif)..
Anyway, it pays to shop around on ****... insurance is another story like this...
My guess is his original price was 350 but he told you 550 then gave you the old classic "I will check with the boss" line and went down to 336. He got the sale and you feel like a winner. :cheers:
Did any of the other dealers ask what prices you already had so they could try to match?
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I'm in the process at the moment of bringing in tired from the US. 305/70/17 work out to 34in tall, best I can find in aus is $560 each but from tire rack they have cost about $400 landed each. Big difference when your buying 6.
Shane
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Pray tell, where does the Black Diamond work? BD if you get a chance can you pm me please. Need to look for some tyres.
Wayne :police:
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My guess is his original price was 350 but he told you 550 then gave you the old classic "I will check with the boss" line and went down to 336. He got the sale and you feel like a winner. :cheers:
it worked, and I dont care :D Looking at the other prices nobody is close to that at all. Not even remotely. Some wouldnt even match the $400...
Did any of the other dealers ask what prices you already had so they could try to match?
Yep... few of them did... None could come close apparently. I've called a few back with the 336 as a 'new customer', and 3-4 of them asked if I could get them some at that price too as they apparently couldnt buy them for this price.
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Had a similar situation here...
We were looking for security doors for our timber bifolds. Ok I'll admit they are not small so didn't expect them to be cheap. One bifold door is 5 doors and the other is 3. So after the home show we had a mob come out... Did the measure and quote and tried to sell us on the quality of the screen (crimsafe) which we said we new as we had them already on other doors and windows but he still had to go through the pitch...
Anyway... The end of the pitch came and said... Wait for it $14500!!! The wife and I looked at each other and thought yea right! Told him we'll let you know. Anyway the next day we get a call and they asked us for our email address as they worked out a limited time (read 7 day) offer... Get home and check the emails and the price they gave $7300!!! Now even at that they would be making money otherwise they wouldn't even do it. But to be honest that was enough to turn us off that company forever. They were just trying to do a rip job and see what they could get away with.
I don't mind paying a fair price for a good product - especially where security is concerned but that is just ridiculous.
BJ
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Tyres now fitted and balanced and got a free Rema Tip Top 20 4wd Repair Kit 8) 8) 8)
For those 20 PM's I've had, the place I dealt with is
Beaurepaires Richmond.
435 Bridge Road
Richmond
9429 4136
http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/beaurepaires/richmond/ (http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/beaurepaires/richmond/)
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Just talking with a mate trying to get some 32inch BFT AT's, and the prices are exactly the same as I got for the tyres above... hasnt the $$ just changed again, shouldnt the price be coming down?
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Aussie dollar was very strong for a few months but is back to pretty average again (0.89 USD).
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Its all a rip off Lost.
Cost of living in Australia and everything else thats been Discussed/Ranted/Everything Else..................
Just bend over, smile, and carry on as normal.
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My best mate lives on acreage in a fairly expensive suburb, so whenever he gets a quote he jokes about the ‘suburb tax’. An example is he recently put a asphalt driveway in so he got 3 quotes. My mate is pretty smart and did his homework and had a fair idea what the quote should be. Each quote came in at around $90 000, but when the company gave him the follow up call saying they can do the job in a couple of days my mate asks for a detailed breakdown and bluntly told them it’s way too expensive.
2 of the companies reduced the quote to $60 000 the same day and the 3rd guy abused him and hung up, rang back and abused him again as well as sending 2 follow up text messages abusing him, This same guys phoned back 2 weeks later saying he can now do $57 000 and when can he start – Let’s just say he didn’t get the job.
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Just bend over, smile, and carry on as normal.
He is in Darwin... he gets bend over twice tax...
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Happened to me today.
I am looking at a Tmax 9000lb winch.
Rang the local TJM and I got a quote of $990.
I asked does include fitting. He laughed mo mate, that is below wholesale.
I said that is very expensive for a Chinese winch. He asked me how much, I said I have seen them for less than $600. He said hang on, I will ask the manager. The manager gets on the phone and starts abusing me and tells me I am full of you know what.
Yea right.
Google. Popular online camping store sells them and a another popular store in Stafford, they both sell then for less than $600.
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Interesting reading this thread.........
I remembered it from a while back so when my camper was due for insurance yesterday, I rang around.
I started with good old NRMA just because I have a heap of other policies with them.
I spoke to someone who was extremely difficult to understand on the phone. He had an Australian accent which just threw me and I was trying to interpret what he was saying instead of just listening ;D ;D ;D
He quoted me $120 cheaper than my current policy with CIL.
Then when he looked up my details and saw I had other policies with them, he took off another $45.
I didn't bother ringing any one else then.
$165 in my pocket, thank you very much.
Now what beer to spend it on???
:cheers:
Brian
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Theres a lot of this going on ,specially with tradies, had to get a plumber out to the folks house, one muppet quoted $305p/h + parts and the job would have taken two hours,I went over to the folks rang around and got the whole job done for $220 including parts. If they think they can take an advantage they sure as hell will try, even at the risk of not getting the job
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Theres a lot of this going on ,specially with tradies, had to get a plumber out to the folks house, one muppet quoted $305p/h + parts and the job would have taken two hours,I went over to the folks rang around and got the whole job done for $220 including parts. If they think they can take an advantage they sure as hell will try, even at the risk of not getting the job
$305 p/h - I assume this means $305 Australian dollars per hour ????
What the?
I'm in the wrong game.
:'( :'( :'(
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Happened to me today.
I am looking at a Tmax 9000lb winch.
Rang the local TJM and I got a quote of $990.
I asked does include fitting. He laughed mo mate, that is below wholesale.
I said that is very expensive for a Chinese winch. He asked me how much, I said I have seen them for less than $600. He said hang on, I will ask the manager. The manager gets on the phone and starts abusing me and tells me I am full of you know what.
Yea right.
Google. Popular online camping store sells them and a another popular store in Stafford, they both sell then for less than $600.
You should go in there and front the manager.. see how abusive the cocksucker is face to face..
Do it saturday morning when they are busy, and make sure you have a big advert of the cheaper price to show all the other customers in the store.
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two posts above, both mentioning 'Abuse' from people to people who are their potential customers and/or will recommend or not recommend anything........
Beggars belief. I would query that, but sadly, I do know that it possibly be true and not made up for pure reading enjoyment.
Do they not know that abusive phone calls and texts could be considered 'assault', not to mention just how stupid you would have to be when in business to be that way.? ? ?
I've had some similar instances, not quite for same as above, but jeez, makes you wonder.....
Funniest was when one concreter came round for a quote, paced out my driveway, came in at 90m2 apparently. Gave a good price, about the same as some of the others. The total size was actually just over 120m2, big difference there in size and also big price difference.!! Then he also proceeded to say that I pay the concrete company, I buy the mesh, I pay the bobcat/truck. His price is just for the concrete works......!!
Another was when one concreter turned up late from the agreed time for quote and 'his mate' turned up at the agreed later time to also do the quote.
They confired and came back with one quote and said pick either one of them!! (yeah, neither!)
Another quote, his was highest, and also didnt include GST.
I queried it and let him know that he was rather more expensive than others...
Dropped the GST price, dropped the price, dropped a bit more, dropped a bit more and then said when can I start???
Another was similar, didnt come back with quote, I phoned and phoned and left messages, eventually he phoned me back all arrogant and basically said hes got enough work on and wont bother quoting, not interested.
Ok, Thanks, Have a good day.
A few weeks later, same guy calls up, do I still need a quote, he can do a very good price. (Huh?)
Another was when we were very keen on getting our house rendered.
Thousands different dollars difference in quotes. Not a small amount, a staggering amount of difference.
We put that back a couple months once we knew how much we would be up for, only to have the one guy that originally turned up to quote in his new SS HSV super duper something or other flash looking race car, practically begging to do the job, dropping his quote by half. (yep 50%)
hmmmm, There could be a thread dedicated to wonderful stories and experiences that have been worthwhile to be shared with the rest of the swaggers.....!!!
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You should go in there and front the manager.. see how abusive the cocksucker is face to face..
Do it saturday morning when they are busy, and make sure you have a big advert of the cheaper price to show all the other customers in the store.
You've got such a way with words there Lost.... Love it!
Sent from the machine that goes..... Bing!
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Yup,Yup and yup. Things don't and haven't changed that much in many of the trade areas (no disrespect is meant to those honest and genuine tradies doing honest, quality, fair valued work and who struggle against those who make thier life as a tradie harder than it should be). However, the best advice is as this thread says "It pays to ring around". Do lots of homework so you are ahead of the game you want to play in and know who is good and who is not.
Example of trade tricks for the unwary: Rang Sparky firm "I need a quote to undertake some work on my renos. I am also getting other quotes just to let you know."
"Ok mate, no problems - I'll drop buy and see what work is needed then give you a quote." "Fine" I say and we agree to meet before I leave for work the next day.
Next day I'm running late for work trying to sort out the multiple jobs and tradies to be finished in preparation other trades like electricians. plumbers, etc.
No sign of sparky and he is already 2hrs late for meeting - I'm getting p'd off and decide "Fairs. fair mate - you are not getting any job from me if you can't even treat your clients with enough respect to make a phonecall to explain your lateness".
I'm just about to leave when a van pulls up. Out jumps a guy, loads his arms up with cable reels, walks down the driveway, says hi as he walks past and proceeds to walk into the house ready to lay cable.
"Excuse me , um what are you doing?"
"Err, the boss said I have a job here and have to start the fitout."
"Did the boss say we only wanted a quote?".
"Oh, he does the quotes - he just said to go here and start the fitout".
"Sorry mate this is a quote job only. Please leave and tell your boss to ----- off".
Now I was "in the building game" at that time and the brazeness to get a foot in the door, the abhorrent customer inconsideration of this firm left me dumbfounded. Neeedless to say the job went to "Combined Electrical" of Tweed/Gold Coast who I will unashamedly plug (no other relationship other than being one of their customers) because not only were they customer responsive, they actually cared about the quailty of their work to the point they chastized one of their employees in front of me because his work wasn't to their standard (and they made him redo his work!).
Don't get me started on pool installers - that is a whole new world of "do bucket loads of homework" and "lots of ring arounds".
Deseng
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I am a tradie and NEVER treat people that way.
In fact sometimes I think I get the raw end of the deal as I'm far too nice to my customers.
( I like to be able to live with myself, and set an example for my children.)
I do know the type though and see them all the time.
Because I deal with it day in day out, I know how to recognise the good from the bad.
I also never do a job without confirming the price in writing, even if the customer doesn't want to.
That way there is no arguing later.
What shocks me most about these stories I hear is that the customers rarely ask questions or check things out, they just accept that that's the way it is.
Rubbish, you are paying for our services and have a right to know what you will be getting and what it will cost.
On the other side of the coin though is the customers that want the job done now, then don't want to pay now.
Oh we'll send a cheque.
Yeah right.........
Try going to fill your car up and then saying you'll send them a cheque.
We are tradesmen not finance lenders. Pay what you owe for what you got.
It does work both ways, but always try to use someone either recommended or who is honest up front.
And more importantly once you have a good tradie, stick with them.
Mutual trust brings mutual benefit.
Cheers
Brian
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We wish we knew about cheques a long time ago. Napanangka got paid by cheque for a painting she did, not only did the cheque not have any money, but the police were upset with us, as we had sent a stolen cheque to the bank, though we did not get in trouble.
Tjupurula
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I am pretty over waiting around for tradies to turn up on time, not so much time but on the actual day would be nice.
I would understand an hour late or even two or three with a phone call, but to not show up at all then call you that night with a lame excuse!
I just tell them not to bother now, yet they still ring two or three more times before they get the message.
Problem with this theory is that I end up doing the job myself...
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On the other side of the coin though is the customers that want the job done now, then don't want to pay now.
Oh we'll send a cheque.
Cheers
Brian
Oh I'm hearing you with that one. Just lately I seem to be getting more and more people who want to direct debit payment into my account, but it appears that it's when they get around to it. Thankfully I'm so wealthy that I only work for the pure pleasure it gives me... Lol. It's getting to the point of ridiculous and as a result its now going to be payment on completion or I'll be returning all of the crap that was just removed from vehicles ( I'm a detailer ) my biggest gripe is that I am in no way an essential and more a luxury, so if you can't f*****g afford it, don't f*****g call !
Rant over
Phew I needed that
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I've just ordered my new wheels and tyres today for our prado.Ended up getting a few prices around the place 265/70/17 bfg all terrains on 17x8 csi tanami rims.
Tyres ranged between $320 to $350 ea,
Rims $200 to $245 ea.
Rang my local bloke who does all our work cars and does a good job, asked if he would match the cheapest wheel and tyre prices and if he could he would get the job (although I probably would have paid $10 extra a corner to get him to do it anyway) he called me back saying bfg are on sale at the moment and he would do the lot for $2070.
And they are good blokes.
I did consider for a bit the import 245/75/17 bfg all terrains on ebay in Sydney but wasn't keen on the warranty, freight, insurance issues for my wife's car.
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$305 p/h - I assume this means $305 Australian dollars per hour ????
What the?
I'm in the wrong game.
:'( :'( :'(
You and me both mate, I thought my folks were winding me up until I started to read the quote
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its that hard to get tradies these days (You know the ones screaming poor) to do small cash jobs that would take 1/2 a day or 1 full day, that 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the ****s never show up, unless you lie to them, telling them you want 50 units fully wired...
I use Service Central with some success, except for the tiler, one ... only one of 6 turned up. He didn't speak English at all, was Russian.. quoted me up the arse, but what choice do I have?
Gave him the job, start next week... end of the week, his interpreter rings, He cant start for another month or 2, is that fine?? I said what do you think - you agree to a time, and you **** me around don't bother - but what choice do I have? Nobody else is interested ... you know - these doing it hard tradies...???
Anyway, I have a carpet cleaner show up that day, cleans carpet (easily the best job ever done in the house on the carpets in 10 yrs), turns out he is a retired tiler - he quotes, 1/2 the price of Vladimir give him the job.... few months later Vladimir's interpreter rings back, he will be there tomorrow to start the job I said **** off and die cause the tiles have been laid months ago for 1/2 the price, on the day the bloke said he would start and hung up.. He rung back. and informed me that apparently I had a bad attitude.
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He rung back. and informed me that apparently I had a bad attitude.
You do, but not in this case ;D
Bunyip
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I am a tradie and NEVER treat people that way.
In fact sometimes I think I get the raw end of the deal as I'm far too nice to my customers.
( I like to be able to live with myself, and set an example for my children.)
I do know the type though and see them all the time.
Because I deal with it day in day out, I know how to recognise the good from the bad.
I also never do a job without confirming the price in writing, even if the customer doesn't want to.
That way there is no arguing later.
What shocks me most about these stories I hear is that the customers rarely ask questions or check things out, they just accept that that's the way it is.
Rubbish, you are paying for our services and have a right to know what you will be getting and what it will cost.
On the other side of the coin though is the customers that want the job done now, then don't want to pay now.
Oh we'll send a cheque.
Yeah right.........
Try going to fill your car up and then saying you'll send them a cheque.
We are tradesmen not finance lenders. Pay what you owe for what you got.
It does work both ways, but always try to use someone either recommended or who is honest up front.
And more importantly once you have a good tradie, stick with them.
Mutual trust brings mutual benefit.
Cheers
Brian
X2 mate. I am a tradie also running m own business and have the same feelings. If I say a time I will be there, I will be there at that time or I will ring before. I always make sure my clients are happy before they pay me, and yes I hear horror stories from my clients about other people.
And sometimes clients are the pain. Example.
A customer rang my wife's ph yesterday, left message, wife passes message on to me. I had very busy day and forgot to ring her back that day. So 7:30 am this morning ring her back, no answer goes to message bank, leave message and hang up. By 11:00 no return call, so I call her again, she answers. (Me) hi it's Oliver from ________, how are you.
(Her) Oh. Are you the guy who rang at some ungodly hour this morning?
(Me) ummm, yeah it was 7:30
(Her) it was well before 7:30, who rings people at that time?
(Me) umm sorry about that, had been at work for an hour
(Her) well what you do and what the rest of the world does are 2 different things!
(Me) yeah ok then, don't worry about it then, I can't help you. ( I then hung up)
So now she has to deal with the next 5 guys who won't even bother to ring her back, or will turn up late, or won't turn up at all even though they have booked a time to turn up, then won't return her calls.
99% of my customers are fantastic people and I have no problems doing work for them.
It does pay to ring around.
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I quoted a job, the guy emailed me to inform me that he had chosen another contractor to do the job as the price he quoted was "more advantageous", which is a flash way to say cheaper, turns out he was half my price!!
Fast forward about 8 weeks and I receive an abusive phone call from him telling me I've been avoiding his calls not turning up at the promised time etc etc, mr 1/2 price has been giving him the runaround and he rang me by mistake!! No money in the job I suspect ;D
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I quoted a job, the guy emailed me to inform me that he had chosen another contractor to do the job as the price he quoted was "more advantageous", which is a flash way to say cheaper, turns out he was half my price!!
Fast forward about 8 weeks and I receive an abusive phone call from him telling me I've been avoiding his calls not turning up at the promised time etc etc, mr 1/2 price has been giving him the runaround and he rang me by mistake!! No money in the job I suspect ;D
but why would someone bother quoting on a job that theres no money in.. You win the job, but have no intentions of doing it... I don't understand "tradie" speak...
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Just back to Lost's original post re the price of tyres. I dont know if this is an urban myth, but I have been told that sometimes the massive variation in price can be due to the age of the tyres. Yes they are all brand new, but exactly when were they manufactured, how long did they sit in storage/warehouse/sun and how long with the distributor and then the retailer? The older they are the cheaper they are. And when I say old, I'm talking years not months.
Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?
Apparently there is a stamp somewhere on the tyre that tells you when it was manufactured?
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Just back to Lost's original post re the price of tyres. I dont know if this is an urban myth, but I have been told that sometimes the massive variation in price can be due to the age of the tyres. Yes they are all brand new, but exactly when were they manufactured, how long did they sit in storage/warehouse/sun and how long with the distributor and then the retailer? The older they are the cheaper they are. And when I say old, I'm talking years not months.
Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?
Apparently there is a stamp somewhere on the tyre that tells you when it was manufactured?
There is a date stamp on all tyre sidewalls.. M/cycle included.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11 (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11)
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but why would someone bother quoting on a job that theres no money in.. You win the job, but have no intentions of doing it... I don't understand "tradie" speak...
It's got me buggered too, I know what $/hour I want and how many hours a job should take, if I don't get the job no big deal.
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If someone rang me at 7:30AM regarding work I would be pissed off too haha!
I am an electrician doing all sorts of work, usually on site at 7-7:30AM. But that is arranged beforehand. I don't call anyone until 8:30AM, or 8AM if I know them.
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First electrician who turned up for the wiring of my bathroom extension and a fair few other jobs that we were having done at same time during recent house renos, basically said, go put the kettle on sonny....
Sits down and has his coffee the wife made,
any biscuits there lovey, he says to my wife while learing at her.
Did what he could, paid him up, even for the time while he turned up an proceeded to unpack his van and re-arrange everything on my driveway, while he had his coffee and while he drove off because he had to do something that 'just came up'.
Wouldnt reccomend or phone that guy again.
Got a 2nd electrician in had this electrician put a hole in my ceiling when wiring new sockets and oven for my kitchen renos, a laugh and a shrig of the shoulder and half a days work for me to repair and put right after he left.
I paid him what he was owed, labour and materials and sent him on his way.
Wouldnt reccomend or phone that guy again. Worse part, $20 an hour for the 'young guy' with him. Gave impression was 2nd year apprentice or such. No worries, agreed, that was on top of the hourly price that he quoted me for himself.
Turns out the kid was on work experience............!!!
WTF
Called next electrician,
Turned up to see the job, stopped in on way home, lives up past our place.
Gave his hourly rate and said great, when can you do it.
Turned up next day, did an hour. Didnt see him for another week, came in did half hour.
Kept making excuses,
turned up, phone rings, apparently his wife wants him home, so off he went.
Waited, still, still, to come back and finish off wiring up the new circuit breaker/rcd required for the new stove and hotplate wiring that already to the back of the switch panel.
Never came back.
Drives past my house everyday on his way home.
I'm being held to ransom here mate.
I'm literally seeing him driving up my road and waving him down, pleading with him to come back and finish my wiring up so my wife can use her new stove.
Phoned many others, you ever tried to get another electrician to come in just to wire up the circuit breakers to the cable behind the switch board? No chance mate.
Managed to find one old retired guy, turned up on time as agreed, gave a fair price that was well within acceptable and proceeded to get on with it. Finished wiring it up and said it was quicker than he thought and cut the price down.
Offered him a coffee when he finished, looked at his watch and said yep, and then said as above, quicker than first thought and asked for less than the agreed price.
Apparently the 3rd guy, the one before, had the wrong circuit breakers in place, whether right or worng I dont know, but put some trust into this guy who is expected to be a professional and certified/qualified in a field I am not.
He said he gets alot of these types of jobs, going in to fix up other so called tradies stuff ups. wish I'd called this guy first.
Likewise, when I paid my concreter who I was extremely happy with when the job was finished, he gave me his final invoice on finishing up. I was happy with the job, quote/price and such, paid him that night via bank transfer once online.
Wouldnt think of waiting 30 days to pay him.
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I don't understand "tradie" speak...
Neither do I mate, neither do I.
Must be what they get taught at trade school or something...........
but why would someone bother quoting on a job that theres no money in
Probably needed the deposit to make his next payment on his SS HSV super duper something or other go fast car.
I mean, like the ads say on telly, you need a new ute with a loud stereo to prove your a 'tradie'.........
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[quote author=oldmate link=topic=22592.msg496119#msg496119 date=1375876543 So 7:30 am this morning ring her back, no answer goes to message bank, leave message and hang up.
If someone rang me at 7:30AM regarding work I would be pissed off too haha!
I am an electrician doing all sorts of work, usually on site at 7-7:30AM. But that is arranged beforehand. I don't call anyone until 8:30AM, or 8AM if I know them.
Really???? That's why you have message bank? She dint have to answer, I didn't expect her to answer, and she didn't, that's why I left a message for her to call me back. ??? I then call back later. Big deal. 99% of people I call would have no problem with it. I get calls at all hours of he morning or night, I don have to answer it, that's why I have a message bank. Ye I am on site most days 7-7:30 also and same as you it is always pre arranged.
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Waited, still, still, to come back and finish off wiring up the new circuit breaker/rcd required for the new stove and hotplate wiring that already to the back of the switch panel.
Never came back.
Drives past my house everyday on his way home.
I'm being held to ransom here mate.
I'm literally seeing him driving up my road and waving him down, pleading with him to come back and finish my wiring up so my wife can use her new stove.
You have a bullbar?? even if you dont, reverse out infront of him so the ****wit cant get past... or go knock on his door at 11.30pm.. wake him and ask when he is coming to finish your work...
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A positive post to balance.
I needed a new crcuit installed for our induction cooktop.
I bought the wire and laid it in place. Only thing needed to be done was hooking it up on both ends with double circuit breaker on one end and another conector on the cooktop end.
I called the electrician who did our solar panels and he did it a few days later. Took him 1 hour for a good price including material.
On a negative note, I checked some wiring under the roof of our 2006 built house. :'(
A set of 5 wires to powerpoints are wrapped together and tapped up.
Have this electrician from the builder never seen a connector for this?
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Apparently tirerack in USA are shipping to AU again now if anyone is shopping...
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Lost Bird, did you try Frankston Tyrepower in Beach St. just up from the one time Railway Crossing.
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Apparently tirerack in USA are shipping to AU again now if anyone is shopping...
Didnt know it had stopped, have bought plenty of them this year.
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Lost Bird, did you try Frankston Tyrepower in Beach St. just up from the one time Railway Crossing.
Barry Cooper down there ;) Yep...
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Its that time of the month again :(
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It certainly does pay to ring around.
I was in the market for new boots, BFG AT KO 265/65/17
Rang the place the last set came from $315.00 only $10.00 more than 3 years ago. Not bad I thought.
2nd place wanted $360.00 ea
3rd joint was $350.00 ea.
4th and final place was $290.00 ea F+B Inc disposal of the old ones. No they aren't parallel imports. This place is a BFG authorised dealer and said he would be shot if he sold imports. Also this place is a big name chain. Got 4 fitted last weekend.
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Rang the place the last set came from $315.00 only $10.00 more than 3 years ago.
**** your lucky... things have got stupid in the last few years.
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**** your lucky... things have got stupid in the last few years.
y. Yup, due in large part to the currency. It has dropped over 30% the last couple of years. For things like tyres which are imported that adds big cost to the price.
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Decided on what to go for next... the Mickey Thompson ATZ P3.. saw some at Ironman other day on one of their utes, and the tread depth is amazing! Spacing of the blocks wasn't too bad either..
now to save up :(
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Good tyres, very happy with mine.
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Decided on what to go for next... the Mickey Thompson ATZ P3.. saw some at Ironman other day on one of their utes, and the tread depth is amazing! Spacing of the blocks wasn't too bad either..
now to save up :(
Yeah good tyre mate. Mine just did cape and back no problems..
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Got a price for some Toyo AT2s last week from my usual guy while I was getting some other work done - $220ea fitted so $1100 a set of 5.
Was at the 4x4 show at the Tyrepower stand, they have a buy 4 get the 5th free promo on Toyo tyres. He wanted to know who was selling them that cheap, said he couldn't match that price even with the buy 4 get the 5th free promo! Surprise surprise...
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I was chasing around for a set (5) 265/65/18 BFG's. Best Local outlet prices were $520 & $535 each. Called a dealer in Singleton(30 minutes away), $335 per tyre inc. rotation and balancing for the life of the tyres. Certainly does pay to ring around
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I finally bit the bullet and got some new tyres and wheels for the 105 series.
I wanted 285/75/16 Cooper STT. Not exactly an uncommon size. And 4 x ROH Sunraysia's in black.
The local quoted me $435 a tyre... and $165 a rim...
Checked some forums and found good feedback on Cornells Tyres at Bexley.
One phone call later... tyres - $330, rims $95.
I called back the local and was told "no way... can't possibly do that price".
Fair nuff. I now have new tyres and rims.
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And 700 bucks in ya sky rocket. Gotta be happy with that.👍
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And 4 x ROH Sunraysia's in black.
... rims $95.
Just remember to make sure they are genuine ROH's if that's what your expecting... not Lucky Woof copies that buckle at the sight of tar.
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So I have seen a few posts from down in Vic regarding contacts within the Myswag Community that can get or sell tyres at the right price.
I am in the market for 285/70x17 in either a Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 or BFG KO2. Does anyone have contacts in the Brisbane area?
Cheers
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Hi Coiled, Have you tried Hacketts at Coopers Plains, no affiliation ect, have just bought the last couple of sets from them and have had friends buy there as well.
Pretty easy to get along with, worth a call.
Iain
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Hi Coiled, Have you tried Hacketts at Coopers Plains, no affiliation ect, have just bought the last couple of sets from them and have had friends buy there as well.
Pretty easy to get along with, worth a call.
Iain
Thanks for the tip, appreciate it and just tried them. Unfortunately no Mickey T's but their prices are the best I have seen on the BFG KO2 & KM2.
Unfortunately I think I am starting to get my heart set on the ATZ P3
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Thanks for the tip, appreciate it and just tried them. Unfortunately no Mickey T's but their prices are the best I have seen on the BFG KO2 & KM2.
Unfortunately I think I am starting to get my heart set on the ATZ P3
having seen the P3 recently down at Ironman they look awesome....
try http://fourbys.com.au/ (http://fourbys.com.au/) in brissy
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I just sold a set of 5 ATZ P3 in 265/70/17 for $500.
Only 10,000 (spare never used) and never been off road.
I live in Toowoomba but people don't want to drive an hour to get a bargin, they expect it to get dropped off for them.
Look around, there are some bargins around.
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I just sold a set of 5 ATZ P3 in 265/70/17 for $500.
Only 10,000 (spare never used) and never been off road.
I live in Toowoomba but people don't want to drive an hour to get a bargin, they expect it to get dropped off for them.
Look around, there are some bargins around.
What a bugger! I would have snapped them up and been happy with the smaller size.
What were your thoughts on them as a tyre?
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What a bugger! I would have snapped them up and been happy with the smaller size.
What were your thoughts on them as a tyre?
I like the p3's. We went from mtz, and put the p3's on a few months before our cape trip. They have done well, and I have no regrets in changing at all. Would I get another set when these wear out? Yes!
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So I have seen a few posts from down in Vic regarding contacts within the Myswag Community that can get or sell tyres at the right price.
I am in the market for 285/70x17 in either a Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 or BFG KO2. Does anyone have contacts in the Brisbane area?
Cheers
You mean km2?
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You mean km2?
I was initially planning on the KM2 then decided it might not be ideal due to what I perceived would be deficiencies such as wet weather, beach and noise. At the same time felt the KO2 was probably too conservative with the loaded camper holding it back when in the bush. Then I stumbled across the ATZ P3 and it looked ideal with more aggressive pattern than a KO2 with perhaps less carcass exposure between lugs than a KM2 for the outback trips.
Basically we have GU Patrol towing 2.2T when fully loaded of Kimberley Karavan. The Cape and Vic High Country are on the agenda as occasional destinations with desert and beach in the mix also. I don't ask for much.
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Michael,
I paid $405 including alignment and balance for 285/70/17 a tyre
Cheers
Carl
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Super cheap sure ain't cheap for parts.
Cruze is overdue for a service so I bought a 20 let drum of Castrol RX diesel, some basic seat covers and floor mats for my young blokes car for Xmas and an air, fuel and oil filter for the Cruza.
Bill comes to $320. I am WTF???
I ask how much each item is until she gets to my filters and 5hit, prices are shocking. I returned all of the filters (all Ryco). I went to a local parts guy and pocketed $42 over the difference of three filters.
All filters between the two places were all Ryco.
Moral of the story is Supercrap is great for oil but not spares.
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Michael,
I paid $405 including alignment and balance for 285/70/17 a tyre
Cheers
Carl
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How long ago Carl?
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How long ago Carl?
Two Months Michael
Cheers
Carl
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I just sold a set of 5 ATZ P3 in 265/70/17 for $500.
Only 10,000 (spare never used) and never been off road.
I live in Toowoomba but people don't want to drive an hour to get a bargin, they expect it to get dropped off for them.
Look around, there are some bargins around.
Why did you sell them?
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hi
AUST Tax hard at work
Cheap tyres at 100US Cooper 130us Aust cheap brand 140 Cooper 230 ,,,, 235/75/15
BEAWARE of the ply ripoff 6-8 ply mainly early ranger and hilux load rating 102-104 vs 108-109 235/75/15 very very common tyre
Sorry we only have the higher ply rating 30$ difference per tyre x 4 thank u bend over and take it ouch
tomo
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https://www.tyresales.com.au/ (https://www.tyresales.com.au/)
Interesting.
285/75x16 BFG MT's $343ea... $1 fitting
glad I don't run stupid rims
NITTO MUD GRAPPLER 33/12.5R20 114Q
$859each ??? ??? ???
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I like the p3's. We went from mtz, and put the p3's on a few months before our cape trip. They have done well, and I have no regrets in changing at all. Would I get another set when these wear out? Yes!
ok its on your head..
ordered 5 of them in 285/75's today.. lucky I did they only had 8 left.
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ok its on your head..
ordered 5 of them in 285/75's today.. lucky I did they only had 8 left.
you rob some little old lady
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you rob some little old lady
I put it on your company card.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/bb/bbbb9e57a8b87fb5f42b89347a26e8985ffc466ec4a0e4dbe5e2fc1b35f4e0e5.jpg)
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You always amaze me
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You always amaze me
you said it was for my birthday... :(
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Hankook Dynapro mt
37/12.5R17 $390 fitted
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Hankook Dynapro mt
37/12.5R17 $390 fitted
Cooper STT $347
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/172232893104 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/172232893104)
or
KM2's for $410...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171686585667 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171686585667)
makes you laugh at some of the 285 prices I got compared to the 37in tyres.
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ok its on your head..
ordered 5 of them in 285/75's today.. lucky I did they only had 8 left.
Just think I could have sold you the km2's on my patrol. Only down side is they are 17"..... But I would have given you the wheels too lol.
Cheers
Nick
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Just think I could have sold you the km2's on my patrol. Only down side is they are 17"..... But I would have given you the wheels too lol.
Cheers
Nick
yea bit late ya bastard!!!!
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Cooper STT $347
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/172232893104 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/172232893104)
or
KM2's for $410...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171686585667 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171686585667)
makes you laugh at some of the 285 prices I got compared to the 37in tyres.
that's all good until I need a load rating of 129
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tehy r teh sexay...
braking improved LOTS
quiet
don't shake (cleaning the baked on gunk off inside of rim will help that)
drifting out of corners is extremely controllable
no grip on tram trax :D :cup: :cup:
I'm never going to Prahran again ever, what a **** of a place, but captain sexay works there..
Note:317000klms
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tehy r teh sexay...
braking improved LOTS
quiet
don't shake (cleaning the baked on gunk off inside of rim will help that)
drifting out of corners is extremely controllable
no grip on tram trax :D :cup: :cup:
I'm never going to Prahran again ever, what a **** of a place, but captain sexay works there..
Note:317000klms
Come and visit me at work and we can try them out in the mud
GG
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Come and visit me at work and we can try them out in the mud
Good idea.. then I could swap em for muddies if they don't meet my expectations. Im still not sure :(
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tehy r teh sexay...
braking improved LOTS
quiet
don't shake (cleaning the baked on gunk off inside of rim will help that)
drifting out of corners is extremely controllable
no grip on tram trax :D :cup: :cup:
I'm never going to Prahran again ever, what a **** of a place, but captain sexay works there..
Note:317000klms
Lol :cheers:
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They are fitted and done few hunge on them now...
(http://www.gupatrol.com/myswag/tires/atz.285.jpg)
Nice Deep treadblocks... not as much sidewall as I hoped... but time will tell.
(http://www.gupatrol.com/myswag/tires/atz.tread.jpg)
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I had a set of P3s put on my 200 before doing the big lap last year. Had zero issues with them, no flats, no chipping etc. Just adjust your pressures to suit terrain.
The other party in group were running the same tyre on Cruiser and Camper with no issues either.
Mine were $475 each for 285/70R17, ouch!
Regards
Angus.