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Title: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: JB on May 15, 2012, 08:39:07 PM

http://www.cleanenergyfuture.gov.au/living-green-drinking-tea-and-weaving/ (http://www.cleanenergyfuture.gov.au/living-green-drinking-tea-and-weaving/)

No joke!

Cheers

JB
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: xcvator on May 15, 2012, 09:02:35 PM
"quizzes, chalking, candle making, and calligraphy."
Wow all things I've wanted to do  ??? Where do I sign up ?
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Hoyks on May 16, 2012, 05:59:14 PM
Not much future in weldering, I might give candle making a go. :cheers:
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: alnjan on May 16, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
Not much future in weldering, I might give candle making a go. :cheers:

We will need to know how to make candles to try and keep the use of electricity down
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: GS on May 16, 2012, 06:17:08 PM
Sounds like a federal government initiative.
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Fred Bear on May 16, 2012, 06:30:01 PM
I read some of the posts and titles on here and scratch my head, I struggle to see the the problem with this group or the service they are providing for the community. By the polls tanking I assume you mean theLabor government rankings in the opinion polls and  I would ask how does this affect that, If you read the article it states they have been around for some three decades hardly something the current government can be blamed for creating.

I would imagine that some people view candle making and basket weaving as legitimate hobbies and would find benefit in attending these workshops, not my cup of tea but then again I wouldn't expect everyone to enjoy my pastimes or hobbies, whatever happened to live and let live,  I fear we are becoming a nation of knockers, if someone doesn't hold the same views or beliefs as us we feel the need to put them down.

Just my two bobs worth

Fred
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Hoyks on May 16, 2012, 06:57:16 PM
It is the relevance to a 'Clean Energy Future' that I am questioning.
Title: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: dazzler on May 16, 2012, 07:05:14 PM
It is the relevance to a 'Clean Energy Future' that I am questioning.
I think it's more activities that may interest some people to come along and be a part of the day. They seem to be preaching to the converted a bit IMO.

Good on em for doing something I spose.
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Geoffwin on May 16, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
It is the relevance to a 'Clean Energy Future' that I am questioning.

It is a community event to promote sustainable living, green initiatives and energy tips are mentioned.

I see it as catering to segments of the community who may not necessarily spend much time in things such as camping forums.

I read some of the posts and titles on here and scratch my head,

(some text deleted by me)and

I fear we are becoming a nation of knockers, if someone doesn't hold the same views or beliefs as us we feel the need to put them down.

Just my two bobs worth

Fred

I agree Fred
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Riguez on May 16, 2012, 07:15:12 PM
I think it's more activities that may interest some people to come along and be a part of the day. They seem to be preaching to the converted a bit IMO.

Good on em for doing something I spose.
its a 'grass roots' group with Fed Gov funding - the group would have sought the funding under a govt. programme. Grass roots groups do a fantastic job (most times) in educating and gaining support from local communities - think about Landcare, Coastcare etc - much of the work done under these banners was done by local groups with fed funding - if they didnt exist most people wouldnt know what the Govt was on about. I think most of the dislike of 'government initiatives' is that the everyday person cant see the relevance to them - this is where this sort of group plays its part.


Teaching to the converted? In Auburn? Its about education.
Title: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: dazzler on May 16, 2012, 07:37:31 PM
its a 'grass roots' group with Fed Gov funding - the group would have sought the funding under a govt. programme. Grass roots groups do a fantastic job (most times) in educating and gaining support from local communities - think about Landcare, Coastcare etc - much of the work done under these banners was done by local groups with fed funding - if they didnt exist most people wouldnt know what the Govt was on about. I think most of the dislike of 'government initiatives' is that the everyday person cant see the relevance to them - this is where this sort of group plays its part.


Teaching to the converted? In Auburn? Its about education.
you do get that I wasn't bagging it, surely?

Basket weavers and candle makers tend to be earthy people who would support it anyway  They are already interested. It's the people not normally interested in the environment and climate change that you need to include.
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Riguez on May 16, 2012, 08:42:34 PM
I wasn't arguing with you dazzler sorry, I agree with you, it involved activities that may interest some people to come along, and that was the point of it. I didn't think you were bagging it either. I often question the delivery mechanism of these sorts of things but heh, I'm not on the ground trying to do it, its got to be bloody hard work.  Having said that, not all basket weavers are environmentalists, and I'd imagine that the people the programme is aimed at are migrants (check out the ethnic diversity of people living in Auburn, Sydney) who still practice traditional skills (maybe weaving - I dunno)(not necessarily environmentalist, basket weaving hippies) and/or want to be involved in 'community' activities to feel a part of what Oz or their community has to offer. The people its mainly targeted at, I'd imagine, may not be interested in the environment and climate change at all - may not care, know or see the relevance to them.
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: dazzler on May 16, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
Hi Riguez, apologies I see where you are coming from.  :cheers:

Its funny what interests people.  I  love racing rally cars and off road buggies, building camper trailers but then in my spare time I am into researching the history of civilisations and particularly how they survived (or perished) which is probably as exciting as watching paint dry to some!

If you ever want to be bored to death just ask about the Tokugawa era of japan.   :D

cheers
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: austastar on May 16, 2012, 09:57:19 PM
If you ever want to be bored to death just ask about the Tokugawa era of japan.   :D


Hi,
  not till I have a large glass of red in my hand, a comfy chair, and good fire with plenty of logs.
Then my friend, I'm sure you could fascinate me.


cheers
Title: Re: No wonder their polls are tanking
Post by: Riguez on May 16, 2012, 10:08:35 PM

If you ever want to be bored to death just ask about the Tokugawa era of japan.   :D

cheers

Maybe catch up with you on the trails one day and you can tell me about it  :cheers: Actually, you've piqued my interest and now I'm gonna have to googalize it... dammit, i hate a distraction like that  :D