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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bird on April 13, 2012, 06:31:32 PM
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Been surfin many of the threads for a while (1/2 a bottle of Reserve Shiraz so far ;D), most say they are using a ratchet style jockey wheel.
My issue isn't moving it around straight lines, pushing it is quite easy being a fat bastard and its all concrete no wet grass :) .
My issue is when I have to turn it while on the move getttin it in the shed - kicking the jockey wheel causes broken toes and is hit and misss, specially wen you have to recorrect and turn back!!!!! and when you miss the wheel, it causes a shattered shin on the drawbar.
What else do people do to turn their trailer when pushing it around the place on their own?? I thought about welding a piece of pipe as a reciever in the bottom of the jockey wheel, then using a pole to turn it... Is there something easier I dont know about for under $"Graham's Number"? Surely??
Has anyone tried using an old cheap ride on mower without the deck on it? Wondering if the trailer weight would be too much going up a slight inclined driveway...
I pissed my pants at this one for the bargain "For a short introductory period don’t pay $6500, pay only$4995 plus $150 shipping. http://www.bringaboatalong.com.au/powered-jockey-wheel/ (http://www.bringaboatalong.com.au/powered-jockey-wheel/) I wonder how often they hear sex and travel...
Some are using this $400 gig... which is sorta what I was thinking of doing, without the motor..
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqJHJ!4E8+iZ5cl8BPW(jTbPgg~~60_12.JPG)
http://www.powrproducts.com.au/powrhitch.php (http://www.powrproducts.com.au/powrhitch.php) this thing looks nice, but bet its worth more than the house. Edit $4300!!!!!!!!!
Other options?
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What about this, Tiger?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ratchet-Jockey-Wheel-DUAL-wheel-Clamp-Mount-Boat-Caravan-Car-Trailer-Parts-/160772756527?pt=AU_product_Trailer_Parts&hash=item256ecd942f (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ratchet-Jockey-Wheel-DUAL-wheel-Clamp-Mount-Boat-Caravan-Car-Trailer-Parts-/160772756527?pt=AU_product_Trailer_Parts&hash=item256ecd942f)
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What about this, Tiger?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ratchet-Jockey-Wheel-DUAL-wheel-Clamp-Mount-Boat-Caravan-Car-Trailer-Parts-/160772756527?pt=AU_product_Trailer_Parts&hash=item256ecd942f (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ratchet-Jockey-Wheel-DUAL-wheel-Clamp-Mount-Boat-Caravan-Car-Trailer-Parts-/160772756527?pt=AU_product_Trailer_Parts&hash=item256ecd942f)
I was thinkin about this cheetah :D
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251034452826 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251034452826)
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I sometimes have a look here if I need to do something to my old scooter.......
<Edit> Sorry I f'd the link......http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27082 (http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27082)
Yep it appears you probably can........... :cheers:
Cheers
Nomad
:cup:
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I sometimes have a look here if I need to do something to my old scooter.......
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27082 (http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27082)
Yep it appears you probably can........... :cheers:
Sweet Mr, nice site :)
Towing is kewl..
Might need a second brake controller though! The downhill could be a concern... Jackknife city!
I still think there has to be a better option for jockey wheel :(
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I have used my ride on mower, no good down hills though, no brakes. :D
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I have a rather narrow driveway that slopes uphill (my camper lives in the backyard, cars live under a carport out the front), so I bit the bullet and bought a powered mover. (Aussie Wheel).
(https://m.ak.fbcdn.net/a8.sphotos.ak/hphotos-ak-ash3/557163_264625180292232_100002342563251_578207_479601622_n.jpg)
Expensive at $2k++ but worth it in terms of no more busting a gut trying to manhandle the camper around.
Also means I can just drive into my driveway and hook this up, and then spin the trailer around 180deg in my double carport, and then trundle it down the side of the house backwards ready for next trip. Impossible to manhandle the trailer like that.
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I wonder how these would work on camper trailers.
http://caravansplus.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=11956&osCsid=5fqfm6q9ba6a61g5hobdh8ea27 (http://caravansplus.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=11956&osCsid=5fqfm6q9ba6a61g5hobdh8ea27)
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Bloke at MDC in Sydney used a 4 wheel motorbike with the hitch on the front of it, could nearly find a second hand one cheaper than some of the gadgets suggested.
Might be an option for those with the space and inclination to use one otherwise.
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I wonder how these would work on camper trailers.
http://caravansplus.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=11956&osCsid=5fqfm6q9ba6a61g5hobdh8ea27 (http://caravansplus.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=11956&osCsid=5fqfm6q9ba6a61g5hobdh8ea27)
extremely badly I'd guess $1,591.92 inc gst
Bloke at MDC in Sydney used a 4 wheel motorbike with the hitch on the front of it, could nearly find a second hand one cheaper than some of the gadgets suggested.
agree! Been lookin at them too, but too tempting to ride em everywhere round
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So 5k is too much ;D $179 was worth a thought ;D how about a carton of beer and a few mates. :cheers: :cheers:
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Sweet Mr, nice site :)
Towing is kewl..
Might need a second brake controller though! The downhill could be a concern... Jackknife city!
I still think there has to be a better option for jockey wheel :(
Second brake controller...........not sure how you wire it to activate the brakes though..........
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Electric-Brake-Controller-Trailer-Mount-Trailer-Caravan-Boat-/230775655310?pt=AU_product_Trailer_Parts&hash=item35bb4d0b8e#ht_500wt_1287 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Electric-Brake-Controller-Trailer-Mount-Trailer-Caravan-Boat-/230775655310?pt=AU_product_Trailer_Parts&hash=item35bb4d0b8e#ht_500wt_1287)
Cheers
Nomad.
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I dont have a problem, I use me Bobcat to move the trailer around . ;D
cheers duggie
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I pissed my pants at this one for the bargain "For a short introductory period don’t pay $6500, pay only$4995 plus $150 shipping. http://www.bringaboatalong.com.au/powered-jockey-wheel/ (http://www.bringaboatalong.com.au/powered-jockey-wheel/) I wonder how often they hear sex and travel...
Can you imagine what this thing would do to your towball weight??????
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agree! Been lookin at them too, but too tempting to ride em everywhere round
That would be the point, instead of spending $2000 to move your camper around, you've spent $2000 on a fun gadget that can also move your camper around.
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I pissed my pants at this one for the bargain "For a short introductory period don’t pay $6500, pay only$4995 plus $150 shipping. http://www.bringaboatalong.com.au/powered-jockey-wheel/ (http://www.bringaboatalong.com.au/powered-jockey-wheel/) I wonder how often they hear sex and travel...
Can you imagine what this thing would do to your towball weight??????
Did you check out the bring your boat along thing out on that site...........from $230,000 to $275,000 depending on fit out......no wonder it needs a $5k jockey wheel.......
I wonder if they will expand to a helicopter / camper from $4000,000 to $4,500,000 depending on fitout.
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Can you make up a smaller version of a shopping trolley base, like they use in motor racing. You know the what the hell are they called......wheel jacks, with the four caster wheels. A base plate with these caster wheels and a support pole and it should, be easy to maneuver around. ;)
Foo
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Can you make up a smaller version of a shopping trolley base, like they use in motor racing. You know the what the hell are they called......wheel jacks, with the four caster wheels. A base plate with these caster wheels and a support pole and it should, be easy to maneuver around. ;)
Foo
That's what I have, my wheel dollies aren't the flash jack up ones, just like the ones described above, some 18mm form ply with 4 Castor type wheels under, means I can move the camper sideways too
As its for only in the shed i don't mind having to jack up the camper because the trolley jack is right there.
Cheers Dave
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You know the what the hell are they called......
Go Jacks ;D.
http://www.gotools.com.au/GoJack.htm (http://www.gotools.com.au/GoJack.htm)
You can get cheaper copies from most places. So long as the space is flat and concrete (sounds like it is), they'd be worth a shot. Keep in mind, that even a little concrete lip on the front of a garage will probably be too much for the little castors.
Good idea though Foo!
Cheers!
Matto :)
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I have a rather narrow driveway that slopes uphill (my camper lives in the backyard, cars live under a carport out the front), so I bit the bullet and bought a powered mover. (Aussie Wheel).
(https://m.ak.fbcdn.net/a8.sphotos.ak/hphotos-ak-ash3/557163_264625180292232_100002342563251_578207_479601622_n.jpg)
Expensive at $2k++ but worth it in terms of no more busting a gut trying to manhandle the camper around.
Also means I can just drive into my driveway and hook this up, and then spin the trailer around 180deg in my double carport, and then trundle it down the side of the house backwards ready for next trip. Impossible to manhandle the trailer like that.
Hi wondering if you have tried it on grass or up a grass slope?
Thanks
Chris
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Hi wondering if you have tried it on grass or up a grass slope?
Thanks
Chris
They have an option for better tyres for that
(http://www.powrproducts.com.au/images/hitch_side.jpg)
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^^Even have full muds for the mover!^^ :cup:
Foo
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I use the kids like a dog sled team when it comes to moving campers around the yard.
They work good in a pack and don't cost anything.
Campfire
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or maybe your getting old feek & weeble :cheers: :-\
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Sorry for the late reply!
Yes I have tried it up gentle grass slopes. It works okay with appropriate tyres.
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i just attach 2 jockey wheels one on either side of the draw bar take the weight off one point in direction you want to go place the weight back on and push saves kicking the jockey wheel . You build up a more rewarding thirst when pushing the camper :cheers: :cheers:
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Seen a remote controlled tracked unit, bout $2600 from memory. Know they sell it at the Jayco joint in Ballarat.
Me, well there there is the tractor with front home made tow ball adapter and toolbar on 3 point hitch. Shall I push it into place or lift and drag it. Ah decisions, decisions ;D
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Anyone else have any cheaper than spending thousands ideas..
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Hey Lost, by resurrecting this thread now, does that mean you haven't moved your CT for a year?
KB
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Hey Lost, by resurrecting this thread now, does that mean you haven't moved your CT for a year?
I'm still trying to turn the ****ing jockey wheel to get it out of the shed :D
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I've been using the 'Ark' ratchet jockey wheel for about a year now. The steering arm is it's best feature. Once you get it rolling using the ratchet, the wheel turns quite easily using the ratchet arm. 10 inch wheel, solid rubber (which I know is not everyone's cup of tea). It's only $138 dollars from Rays Outdoors, or $129.03 for members. The axle frame is very rugged in comparison to the cheap $50 ten inch pneumatic jockey wheels.
Ezimover Jockey Wheel, Single Wheel (http://www.raysoutdoors.com.au/online-store/products/Ezimover-Jockey-Wheel-Single-Wheel.aspx?pid=221957#Cross)
Cheers, Marschy
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I got a approx. $100 one ex Repco (Mechanic mates Rates )
Ratchet, steering exstention. ( which I have yet to use)
I have a slight uphill to get it out to connect to the tug.
Bit of a pull & ratchet at the same time works without sliding back ( unless some fine grit is on the concrete)
goes back in fine when steering it & using the CT handbrake
edit- needs the occasional clean & dry lube to keep the rachet running smooth
Sand- dirt - etc
cheers
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Moving back and forward isnt an issue, that part is piss easy.. Its turning right and left without having to break your toes kicking the Shit out of the wheel to make it turn...
Might look into getting a reciever welded to the side of the wheel, slide some pipe into it to assist turning.
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I've got the Repco one as well. From memory it was about $75 after the RACV discount.
This is my second ratchet jockey wheel. My first one cost about $200 but didn't have meaty enough teeth on the cog and I ended up breaking a few teeth and stuffing it. The Repco one is more robust.
I have a bit of a challenging parking area. I live in the inner city and park the camper in the back yard off a bluestone back lane. To get the camper in I need to jack knife it to get the bum in, unhitch and then ratchet it into position. This is slightly up hill and on pretty rough and uneven 120 year old bluestone blocks.
It works a nice sweat up, but does the job better than anything else short of mounting an electric winch in the back yard (which is my long term plan).
Cheers
JB
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I've been using the 'Ark' ratchet jockey wheel for about a year now. The steering arm is it's best feature. Once you get it rolling using the ratchet, the wheel turns quite easily using the ratchet arm. 10 inch wheel, solid rubber (which I know is not everyone's cup of tea). It's only $138 dollars from Rays Outdoors, or $129.03 for members. The axle frame is very rugged in comparison to the cheap $50 ten inch pneumatic jockey wheels.
Ezimover Jockey Wheel, Single Wheel (http://www.raysoutdoors.com.au/online-store/products/Ezimover-Jockey-Wheel-Single-Wheel.aspx?pid=221957#Cross)
Cheers, Marschy
How far does each "ratchet" move the trailer? is it feet, or mm?
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Worried about wheels digging in? How about a tiny solution on TRACKS!
The Camper Trolley in Action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LT-zWMqRhg#ws)
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Ezi Mover Ratchet (http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Ezimover-Jockey-Wheel-Single-Wheel.aspx?pid=221957#Cross) on special at BCF. $97
Renno
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In discussion with engineer mate.
Mission:
To make one cheaper than the $2000 they want for them.
Objective: Same as this but in hot pink with LED reversing light and backing buzzer for OHS..
(http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/130202/483r1/51594h2_20.jpeg)
Parts:
This for the motor... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271062853927/ (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271062853927/) $96 for a a 3000lb winch with wireless controller! ??? ??? how much must they be out of china.
Trolley part = something like this off ebay for $50
(http://anytimehire.com.au/wp-content/uploads/piano-trolley.jpg)
Rest of metal == Scrap bin at mates work
Sprocket or 2 from ebay $20
Payment for his skillz = slab or 2
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I just use our Jeep to move the trailer around. Its got a towbar and everything, so pretty easy really. ;D
If i was stuck for space, i'd use the ride-on mower.
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If i was stuck for space, i'd use the ride-on mower.
that was my original thought get one thats no good for mowing with a shagged undertheneath...
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that was my original thought get one thats no good for mowing with a shagged undertheneath...
Expect to pay around $200.00 for a dunger. You'll only need a 12 HP jobbie.
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Expect to pay around $200.00 for a dunger. You'll only need a 12 HP jobbie.
yea, been lookin since I started this thread...
but then I have to store it too.. with the BirdBuiltTrailerMoverThingy I can slide it under the trailer.... thats the plan anyway....
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years ago, one of the guys we raced with at Willowbank had a barstool with a go-kart engine in it.
He used it to tow a modified dragster around the pits.
One of those, you can use for ya camper, going to the shops and sitting around having a drink. Food for though huh.
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Fit a removable hitch receiver to the front of your car :laugh: or can't you steer that up your driveway either >:D
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years ago, one of the guys we raced with at Willowbank had a barstool with a go-kart engine in it.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/10/27/1225791/793698-couch-driver-fined-1000.jpg)
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/perth-man-fined-1000-for-couch-drink-driving-in-geelong/story-e6frg13u-1225791793715 (http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/perth-man-fined-1000-for-couch-drink-driving-in-geelong/story-e6frg13u-1225791793715)
or worse
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/drunk-motorised-esky-driver-fined-500-and-loses-licence/story-e6frfhk6-1226116160757 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/drunk-motorised-esky-driver-fined-500-and-loses-licence/story-e6frfhk6-1226116160757)
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(http://www.caradvice.com.au/thumb/640/321/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/motorised-esky-625x445.jpg)
Only in Noosa
http://www.caradvice.com.au/133052/noosa-man-loses-licence-for-10-months-after-drink-driving-on-motorised-esky/ (http://www.caradvice.com.au/133052/noosa-man-loses-licence-for-10-months-after-drink-driving-on-motorised-esky/)
Though riding it down Hastings Street is just plain dumb............what a deadsh!te
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Lost ,have you tried a large dia solid jockey wheel, I too push mine around on the concrete ,and it only take a good push to get it to turn from a standing start,and once it's rolling its not too bad at all
This is on a Kimberly too ,so there is a bit of bar weight upon it
If you want I have a spare , or you could call in at home and give the camper a push to make up your own mind .give us a pm
Cheers. Graham
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Worried about wheels digging in? How about a tiny solution on TRACKS!
The Camper Trolley in Action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LT-zWMqRhg#ws)
I bought one about a year ago and it was sh1te. Apparently changed manufacturers and had problems since.
They were really good to deal with though. Honest, upfront and gave me money back.
I would probably still look at getting one now they have apparently sorted it out, but really don't have the need anymore.
I use a maco-mule. dual wheel ratchet type and it works perfectly.
Cheers
Brian
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found this in ebay last night, doesnt look to bad or adopt one of the cheapy super cheap trolleys to do the same.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370777622368?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/370777622368?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
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Yes i have a ride on mower i bought off my fb bss for $50. And another $200 to make it go..
Took the deck off, its a John Deere, it can even tow my car trailer around.. Very handy..
Also have another ride on mower that i made up my own offroad hitch for it, so when i tow its trailer around i have a little more swing and movement..
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I am a 2 shed family, one for me and one for living in..
1993 80 series landcruiser
Dual movement hip
Love the high country
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how hard to mod one of these into a trailer mover thingy?? remove the seat, weld on a towbar reciever and slide ya tounge in there
for the price of $60 at moment..
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/EpYAAMXQDDZR0jfb/$T2eC16ZHJI!E9qSO9fjOBR0jf,)(rQ~~60_57.JPG)
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how hard to mod one of these into a trailer mover thingy?? remove the seat, weld on a towbar reciever and slide ya tounge in there
for the price of $60 at moment..
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/EpYAAMXQDDZR0jfb/$T2eC16ZHJI!E9qSO9fjOBR0jf,)(rQ~~60_57.JPG)
Better check the battery condition, you mighty get a fright 8)
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how hard to mod one of these into a trailer mover thingy?? remove the seat, weld on a towbar reciever and slide ya tounge in there
for the price of $60 at moment..
We've played around with a few of these, I may have even piloted one of these home from a mates place after a few too many... Batteries are generally 38ah and depending on brand range from $150 to $250.
They can take a bit of punishment too, a mates kids flog one around their 5 acre property and its yet to break.
You'll need wheelie bars or leave the jocky wheel down for towing, as they're easy to lift the front wheels up. Not sure how it would handle a 1 ton load on it though.
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how hard to mod one of these into a trailer mover thingy?? remove the seat, weld on a towbar reciever and slide ya tounge in there
for the price of $60 at moment..
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/EpYAAMXQDDZR0jfb/$T2eC16ZHJI!E9qSO9fjOBR0jf,)(rQ~~60_57.JPG)
How long are you going to leave that thing standard huh. A big deep cell battery or a combustion motor, coupled up to a six speed gearbox, taller gearing, wheelie bars and a nitrous injection system. ;D
Foo
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How long are you going to leave that thing standard huh. A big deep cell battery or a combustion motor, coupled up to a six speed gearbox, taller gearing, wheelie bars and a nitrous injection system. ;D
Foo
Have to remove the basket and fit an esky
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Have to remove the basket and fit an esky
Nah make up a dolly and tow two trailers. ;D
Foo
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Problem solved
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30917.msg483837#new (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30917.msg483837#new)
Cheers
Evo
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How long are you going to leave that thing standard huh. A big deep cell battery or a combustion motor, coupled up to a six speed gearbox, taller gearing, wheelie bars and a nitrous injection system. ;D
I've still got a TZ350 donk in the shed.... :)
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Problem solved
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30917.msg483837#new (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30917.msg483837#new)
yea but they are only $220 new. Why would I pay $300+ ??? ??? ???
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150984562715/ (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150984562715/)
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yea but they are only $220 new. Why would I pay $300+ ??? ??? ???
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150984562715/ (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150984562715/)
I had no idea what they are worth. Lol actually never seen them before. BUT they do look pretty easy to use?
Maybe at the price that you found it could be worth while?
Cheers
Evo
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I had no idea what they are worth. Lol actually never seen them before. BUT they do look pretty easy to use?
Maybe at the price that you found it could be worth while?
My jockey wheel is perm mounted to trailer, I don't wanna weld on another bracket for oen of them.
I'd rather make a dolly up.
got some plans for this.. be nice to score a pair of ATV wheels with tyres for nix... might call a mate down Timboon.
(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr59/condronkr/trailerdolly.jpg)
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My jockey wheel is perm mounted to trailer, I don't wanna weld on another bracket for oen of them.
I'd rather make a dolly up.
got some plans for this.. be nice to score a pair of ATV wheels with tyres for nix... might call a mate down Timboon.
(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr59/condronkr/trailerdolly.jpg)
Actually that one doesn't look that complicated
Good idea. If you go down that path, try and do a thread on it. I think a heap of people would benefit from it.
Cheers
Evo
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I've still got a TZ350 donk in the shed.... :)
Now ya talking, I can almost smell those sweet fumes. ;D
Foo