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Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on January 24, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
Want to get together a list of "Extenda" type campers.  Soft floor.  This will be a good reference to those looking exclusively for this style of off road camper.

So far I've found:

All Terrain Campers - http://www.allterraincampertrailers.com.au/ (http://www.allterraincampertrailers.com.au/)
Australian Custom Campers - http://www.australiancustomcampers.com.au/ (http://www.australiancustomcampers.com.au/)
Awesome Camper Trailers - http://www.awesomecampertrailers.com/ (http://www.awesomecampertrailers.com/)
Camel - http://www.camelgroup.com.au/ (http://www.camelgroup.com.au/)
Central Coast Campers - http://www.centralcoastcampers.com.au/ (http://www.centralcoastcampers.com.au/)
Challenge Camper Trailers - http://www.challengecampertrailers.com/ (http://www.challengecampertrailers.com/)
Complete Campsite - http://www.completecampsite.com.au/ (http://www.completecampsite.com.au/)
Country Campers - http://www.countrycampers.com.au/ (http://www.countrycampers.com.au/)
Customline - http://www.customline.com.au/ (http://www.customline.com.au/)
Explorer - http://www.explorercampers.com.au/ (http://www.explorercampers.com.au/)
Follow Me Campers - http://www.followmecampers.com.au/ (http://www.followmecampers.com.au/)
Great Aussie Campers - http://www.greataussiecampers.com.au/ (http://www.greataussiecampers.com.au/)
Hunt and Rover - http://www.huntandrover.com.au/ (http://www.huntandrover.com.au/)
Jimboomba - http://www/jimboombacampertrailers.com.au/ (http://www.jimboombacampertrailers.com.au/)
Johnno's Camper Trailers - http://www.campertrailer.com.au// (http://www.campertrailer.com.au//)
Lifestyle - http://www.lifestylecampertrailers.com.au/ (http://www.lifestylecampertrailers.com.au/)
Market Direct Campers - http://http://www.marketdirectcampers.com.au/ (http://www.marketdirectcampers.com.au/)
Mountain Trail - http://www.mountaintrailcampers.com.au/ (http://www.mountaintrailcampers.com.au/)
Outback Campers WA - http://www.outbackcampers.net.au/ (http://www.outbackcampers.net.au/)
Redback Campers - http://www.redbackcampers.com.au/ (http://www.redbackcampers.com.au/)
Southern Cross - http://www.southerncrosscanvas.com.au/ (http://www.southerncrosscanvas.com.au/)
Tambo Campers - http://www.tambocampers.com.au/ (http://www.tambocampers.com.au/)
Trackabout - http://www.trackabout.com.au/ (http://www.trackabout.com.au/)
Tru Blu Campers - http://www.trublucampers.com.au/ (http://www.trublucampers.com.au/)


Have I missed any?? Let me know and I'll update the list.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: BigJules on January 25, 2012, 07:56:53 AM
Thanks for putting that together. I also like the extenda style, for ease of access to the bed, storage space and even the extra length on the tent.

Which way are you leaning?
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on January 25, 2012, 07:59:37 AM
Me? I only get 49% of the vote. But wife really likes the Lifestyle Elite. Especially all the lockable compartments and storage room it has to offer. I concur.

We are going to the Canberra show to have a good look

I'll do all the electrics myself and want to fit it out with dual batts, 200w solar, 240V and 12V systems, plus hot water, 12v lights etc.

Want to be able to rock up to a park and not be constrained to a powered site only
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Doug.b on January 25, 2012, 09:36:23 AM
I think challenge camper trailers make one as well
http://www.challengecampertrailers.com/albums/album_image/5015511/7436827.htm (http://www.challengecampertrailers.com/albums/album_image/5015511/7436827.htm)
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Redback on January 25, 2012, 10:22:15 AM
Ray Clarkes, Country Campers do one as well, him and Aaron from Redback are the original designers of the Walkway Camper.

They got the idea from Jims Mowers trailers, the prototype was made from Plywood, they took it to Cape York and back as a test.

Baz.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: NatGav on January 25, 2012, 11:38:14 AM
Thank you so much for this list. we are in the market and looking for a camper for a 12 month trip we are doing around Australia. This is a great list and as we make our decision i'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Squalo on January 25, 2012, 12:15:14 PM
Our first CT was/is a walk-up, and the first time we used it Mrs Squalo and I agreed that we'd never be happy with a conventional/ladder access CT - it really is that good.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: making tracks on January 25, 2012, 01:02:35 PM
Have had our Tambo Omeo since August and could not be happier.

The walk though/up design was our first priority when we were looking for our first CT.

It became very obvious to us that there is a whole list of other factors involved and for us Tambo checked all the boxes and then some more. Well worth the trip to see them in Melbourne.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Dion on January 25, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
Walkway camper was the only choice for us - me being 6ft8 means I need the extra space for my feet to hang over the end of the bed  ;D
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: crackacoldie on January 25, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
I think challenge camper trailers make one as well
http://www.challengecampertrailers.com/albums/album_image/5015511/7436827.htm (http://www.challengecampertrailers.com/albums/album_image/5015511/7436827.htm)


Our challenge has the walk-in, great for carrying the extra fridge and porta-potti.  Also easier for bed access after a few  :cheers:

 :cheers: Cracka
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 12, 2012, 07:15:01 AM
Added Great Aussie Campers to the list.

Saw them at the show yesterday.  What a great product!!
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Barrabart on February 12, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Good thread........ Geeeez....... there are a couple of CT Brands i hadn't even heard of in that list......... makes one wonder just how many CT Manufacturers there are in Aus??
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 12, 2012, 10:22:12 PM
Market Direct Campers are now doing one too.

Extreme Off Road Step-Thru Camper Trailer  (http://www.marketdirectcampertrailers.com.au/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=94&Itemid=203)

Cheers
Craig
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Dion on February 12, 2012, 10:26:53 PM
Market Direct Campers are now doing one too.

Extreme Off Road Step-Thru Camper Trailer  (http://www.marketdirectcampertrailers.com.au/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=94&Itemid=203)

Cheers
Craig


Wow, could they copy a Lifestyle Extenda CT any more closely!!!
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 13, 2012, 01:20:34 AM
Wow, could they copy a Lifestyle Extenda CT any more closely!!!

You mean the Lifestyle Extenda Elite and almost 6G less  :o

I reckon the Lifestyle looks better though  8)
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: gclan on February 13, 2012, 09:07:23 AM
We bought a Mountain Trail Camper extended Expedition in 2009. We've taken it to Fraser Island, through The Kimberley, and we're off to Cape York in it this year. We couldn't be happier. Nick is also great to deal with and they are very well made.

http://www.mountaintrailcampers.com.au/ (http://www.mountaintrailcampers.com.au/)


I can't imagine having a camper now without the stairs and storage at the end of the bed.

Cheers

Karen
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: NatGav on February 13, 2012, 09:12:00 AM
Where is the Market Direct trailer made?
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: crackacoldie on February 13, 2012, 09:59:19 AM
Where is the Market Direct trailer made?

A direct quote from the fine print on their website:

 "All camper trailer packages are manufactured and assembled in Brisbane, Queensland"


 :cheers: Cracka
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: allterrain on February 13, 2012, 04:25:42 PM
I didn't know we had sold Brisbane to the Chinese. If they are assembled there where does all the manufacturing part get done
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: allterrain on February 13, 2012, 04:39:53 PM
Follow Me Campers in WA and I think Jonno's are also doing a walkup or extenda trailer
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 13, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
Follow Me Campers in WA and I think Jonno's are also doing a walkup or extenda trailer

Already there on the list - Follow Me Campers.

Couldn't find a Johnno's model - so not there yet.

Market Direct Campers - added to list. Very much like the Lifestyle Elite - hmmmmmm - looks like rip stop canvas from.............(fill here)
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: sadie on February 13, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
Wow, could they copy a Lifestyle Extenda CT any more closely!!!
Probably doesn't hurt that they have an ex-Lifestyle employee on staff now....
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 14, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
Added Johnno's
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Redback on February 15, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
Good thread........ Geeeez....... there are a couple of CT Brands i hadn't even heard of in that list......... makes one wonder just how many CT Manufacturers there are in Aus??


Here ya go, the complete list

http://www.campertrailers.org/manufacturers.htm (http://www.campertrailers.org/manufacturers.htm)

Baz.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: spargo on February 15, 2012, 02:09:44 PM
Wow, could they copy a Lifestyle Extenda CT any more closely!!!

Probably not.

But the integrated annex floor and storm-flap under the back door is a mistake.  Good luck to them..
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 15, 2012, 02:36:44 PM
Probably not.

But the integrated annex floor and storm-flap under the back door is a mistake.  Good luck to them..

If you mean under the tailgate, I'm fairly certain it is velcro'd on to the floor, or so the salesman in Perth told me yesterday.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: matt150 on February 18, 2012, 03:41:49 PM
Thanks

Great index point for a newbie searching for a camper !!
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: JCAT on February 18, 2012, 06:05:53 PM
From the pictures the Market Direct version of the Lifestyle Extenda Elite, didn't appear to have a kitchen, or twelve volt system. The fine print says it comes without a mattress? Seems to be a few shortcuts with the wiring for the lights not being threaded through the chassis but between the chassis and the underbody?

$6000 is a big saving though.

I wonder if Lifestyle had some sort of patent or copyright on their trailer, obviously not?
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 18, 2012, 06:54:54 PM
Had a look at it in the flesh today.

Quality seems ok. Even the boarding ladder for the extenda part is identical to the Lifestyle.

Tent is the Chinese style ripstop type (with the little squares).
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 18, 2012, 08:12:27 PM
Had a look at it in the flesh today.

Quality seems ok. Even the boarding ladder for the extenda part is identical to the Lifestyle.

Tent is the Chinese style ripstop type (with the little squares).

Would you be ok with buying one for that price?

As I'm not going to be able to touch one until the Perth Show in March, I guess what I'm asking is anyone or everyone that has time, if you could drop in and have a look at it and give me a first hand eyeball pro's/cons report, be totally honest, at that price I don't mind rerunning cables, replacing Tek screws with bolts, replacing the dust seals etc. I'd even look at getting a custom Aussie Canvas Tent made to suit.

Fun Police, if you want me to start this in a separate thread let me know or a mod to split it off.

:cheers:

Craig
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 18, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
Would you be ok with buying one for that price?


Me? Probably not with the Chinese tent.

I had a real good look at them and think they suck.

So them you'll be up for $4k for a decent tent (from Bell etc), so that $6k looks more like $2k IMO
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 19, 2012, 02:14:54 AM
Me? Probably not with the Chinese tent.

I had a real good look at them and think they suck.

So them you'll be up for $4k for a decent tent (from Bell etc), so that $6k looks more like $2k IMO

So for you, if the tent was taken out of the equation the trailer looks sound enough?

$2k is better in my pocket than not  ;D
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Barrabart on February 19, 2012, 08:06:11 AM
Just my observation and i could be wrong...... but are some of the so called extenders the same 7 x 4 box & chassis they offer but with a walk way tagged to the front........ I say this because some of the units out there appear to not really have the axle central to the overall length of the box section.....  if that makes sense??
 Interested to know others findings??
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: crackacoldie on February 19, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
My walk -in is an 8x4 trailer with the axle set ever so slightly to the rear of centre, makes it slightly nose heavy buit tows great.

 :cheers: Cracka
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 19, 2012, 08:30:16 AM
So for you, if the tent was taken out of the equation the trailer looks sound enough?

$2k is better in my pocket than not  ;D

True.

I didn't have a huge look at the trailer, but what I saw looked ok. I think you would need to go over it carefully and see if any other corners were cut
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: barneys on February 19, 2012, 02:08:31 PM
hi fun police  what electric package are you looking at
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 19, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
We are just getting Great Aussie  to do the basic trailer wiring and 12V outlets back to a Baintech fuse block.

Then, I'll be fitting my Ctek 7A 240/12V charger (from my now sold boat) and a Projecta/Ctek 12v solar/charger plus 2 x 80AH Remco AGM's (when money permits).

That'll give me a reasonable setup once coupled with a 120-160W solar panel.

The trailer will have no onboard 240V AC. Just provision for an inverter in the future.

When we're in a van park we'll use extension cords and a portable ELCB box
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: barneys on February 19, 2012, 04:02:36 PM
are you putting it in the toolbox  or the metal box on the side at the back of thre hallway for want of a better name
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 19, 2012, 04:12:59 PM
In the metal box near the walkway. I think it all just fits with the 2x80Ah batteries in place.

This is the box on the drivers side to ensure the batteries are away from the sleeping area. Just in case.




Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 21, 2012, 10:58:20 AM
Found another Outback Campers in WA that make one too.

 Walkabout Deluxe Camper Trailer  (http://www.outbackcampers.net.au/deluxe-camper-trailer-perth)

Cheers
Craig
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: MADCOW on February 22, 2012, 06:43:25 AM
We bought a Mountain Trail Camper extended Expedition in 2009. We've taken it to Fraser Island, through The Kimberley, and we're off to Cape York in it this year. We couldn't be happier. Nick is also great to deal with and they are very well made.

http://www.mountaintrailcampers.com.au/ (http://www.mountaintrailcampers.com.au/)


I can't imagine having a camper now without the stairs and storage at the end of the bed.

Cheers

Karen
[/quote

Seconded there Karen, We're very happy with our Escape Extended, i did make drawers to give even more storage in the walk through area

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e250/charldav/DSCN5460.jpg)
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 22, 2012, 08:38:40 AM
Found another Outback Campers in WA that make one too.

 Walkabout Deluxe Camper Trailer  (http://www.outbackcampers.net.au/deluxe-camper-trailer-perth)

Cheers
Craig


Thanks.  Added to list
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Dion on February 23, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Just my observation and i could be wrong...... but are some of the so called extenders the same 7 x 4 box & chassis they offer but with a walk way tagged to the front........ I say this because some of the units out there appear to not really have the axle central to the overall length of the box section.....  if that makes sense??
 Interested to know others findings??

Some are, some are not.  My early version Lifestyle Extenda has the box section tacked on the front and wheels located for just the normal 7x4 box, but later versions had it more central.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Barrabart on February 24, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
Some are, some are not.  My early version Lifestyle Extenda has the box section tacked on the front and wheels located for just the normal 7x4 box, but later versions had it more central.

Thanks Dion,

Maybe it's the first of some of the current models i've seen...... i guess the makers wanted to see if the concept was a big seller, before they went full on with the redisign....... probably explains a few things..
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on February 25, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
And another one to add to the list.

Central Coast Campers (http://www.centralcoastcampers.com.au/)

Cheers
Craig
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: spargo on February 27, 2012, 08:40:20 AM
Some are, some are not.  My early version Lifestyle Extenda has the box section tacked on the front and wheels located for just the normal 7x4 box, but later versions had it more central.

Mine is an end-2010 and it definitely has a more centred axle compensating for the extra length trailer overall. Think of the walkway as being added onto an extended drawbar of a normal trailer. Approach/Ramp-over/Departure angles are appropriate for the trailer's length I reckon..
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 27, 2012, 09:10:16 AM
And another one to add to the list.

Central Coast Campers (http://www.centralcoastcampers.com.au/)

Cheers
Craig


Done.  Added
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: barneys on February 27, 2012, 06:03:28 PM
fun police have you worked out wich one you wnt and when will it be delivered
Title: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on February 27, 2012, 06:30:35 PM
Yep.  Great Aussie Campers.

When? Don't know. Just waiting on a price back from them, we only sent through our requirements yesterday.

After we pay the deposit   I believe  it is about 6 weeks or so after that.

So all things going well around end of April or so. TBA!
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on March 26, 2012, 12:23:42 AM
And yet another one to add to the list.

Awesome Camper Trailers (http://www.awesomecampertrailers.com/)

Cheers
Craig
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Dion on March 26, 2012, 10:04:52 AM
Mine is an end-2010 and it definitely has a more centred axle compensating for the extra length trailer overall. Think of the walkway as being added onto an extended drawbar of a normal trailer. Approach/Ramp-over/Departure angles are appropriate for the trailer's length I reckon..

IIRC Lifestyle just reversed the 'tub' of the trailer, which pushed the axle forward, and put batteries behind the axle, etc.

Each design has benefits and drawbacks.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: dadonbike on March 26, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
You can also add
http://www.cameroncampers.com.au/range/ (http://www.cameroncampers.com.au/range/)

Ive owned two. The old 'classic' style and now their new 'concept' design without guy opes or pegs.
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on April 16, 2012, 12:01:38 AM
You can also add
http://www.cameroncampers.com.au/range/ (http://www.cameroncampers.com.au/range/)

Ive owned two. The old 'classic' style and now their new 'concept' design without guy opes or pegs.


Am I missing something?
I'm not seeing the "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" option with this manufacturer?
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: relaxabout on April 16, 2012, 09:06:47 AM
Don`t write the Trackabout of yet, They emailed me (Rob & Kym Adams) are in the process of taking over
Trackabout. They know alot about Trackabout as they own Coast n Country camper hire trackabouts ct for 8 years.
They are working with John in the process of taking over.Please add them to this list when they come on board.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: crackacoldie on April 16, 2012, 04:57:36 PM
You can also add
http://www.cameroncampers.com.au/range/ (http://www.cameroncampers.com.au/range/)

Ive owned two. The old 'classic' style and now their new 'concept' design without guy opes or pegs.


Cameron's don't do a "walk-in"
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on April 16, 2012, 05:24:44 PM
Correct.

Also Trackabout restored   :cheers:
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on April 21, 2012, 02:14:02 PM
And yet another one to add to the list.

Awesome Camper Trailers (http://www.awesomecampertrailers.com/)

Cheers
Craig


Don't forget to add this one Fun Police  ;D
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Dazbrook on April 21, 2012, 02:55:55 PM
Don`t write the Trackabout of yet, They emailed me (Rob & Kym Adams) are in the process of taking over
Trackabout. They know alot about Trackabout as they own Coast n Country camper hire trackabouts ct for 8 years.
They are working with John in the process of taking over.Please add them to this list when they come on board.
 :cheers:


Too true , I was down there today and will be ordering one shortly.

Dazza
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ozki on April 22, 2012, 05:20:03 PM
Would you be ok with buying one for that price?

As I'm not going to be able to touch one until the Perth Show in March, I guess what I'm asking is anyone or everyone that has time, if you could drop in and have a look at it and give me a first hand eyeball pro's/cons report, be totally honest, at that price I don't mind rerunning cables, replacing Tek screws with bolts, replacing the dust seals etc. I'd even look at getting a custom Aussie Canvas Tent made to suit.

Fun Police, if you want me to start this in a separate thread let me know or a mod to split it off.
Be careful if you start doing things like u have stated I know you would end up spending more money if you change tent you will end up spending more money. I always think go genuine the manufactures spend a fortune on developing there product and there is always tricks that copiers do not master. Lifestyle camper will last you much longer , we all need to support Aussie made.
:cheers:

Craig
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Fun Police on April 22, 2012, 06:42:16 PM
Don't forget to add this one Fun Police  ;D

Done.  Added
Title: Re: List of "Extenda"/ "Walk-through" style campers
Post by: Ropes on April 23, 2012, 02:33:11 AM
Be careful if you start doing things like u have stated I know you would end up spending more money if you change tent you will end up spending more money. I always think go genuine the manufactures spend a fortune on developing there product and there is always tricks that copiers do not master. Lifestyle camper will last you much longer , we all need to support Aussie made.

I agree, I had a good crawl over it at the show and there would be too much to do to bring it up to a standard I would be happy with, don't get me wrong though, it is still a great CT for the price.

Our focus and budget has now changed to a Challenge Meridian Walk-in.

Cheers
Craig