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Title: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: McGirr on November 01, 2011, 09:53:40 PM
We all know that there are restrictions at the Cape but the only restricted area we will be in will be Bamaga / Seisa.

The restrictions start aprox 10 klms from the ferry. Only one case of beer per vehicle.

Also they do not sell any bottled spirits as it's all cans for both beer and mixed drinks. If you have bottled spirits keep them in camp and you will be ok as you can walk around with a beer etc in the caravan park but not outside the park.

As we will be having a cocktail night bring your favorite mix for the occasion.

Mark
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: SteveandViv on November 01, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
And even then at Seisa you can go around the block and buy another carton of beer. The rules are. You can only carry one carton in your car at a time. There are actually no rules that say you can not buy two, you then take the chance. we asked several managers while there and go the same reply. So. Buy one and take it home and put it in the camper then go get another one if you need which we did on our way out to Vriliya Point EG. As long as you hide it you will have no issues getting out of the Cape unless you are a moron and tie them down to the roof of the 4by.

And then we are going to hear about what constitutes a bonafide traveler when carrying booze through Bloomfield. Again common sense prevails. if you stop and break out the cans you may in dead get done. No one in years has had their car confiscated for having a few bottles of grog in the car along with a few cases. Again, hide it..

The same happens up here a lot. NO GROG signs. We take it in all the time. We do not sit there and drink it in plain site of every one. Please use common sense.

I'm just adding this Mark as in the build up for this year to many were scare mongering IMO and that's just not right. Sorry if I rocked your thread. Happy to remove if required

Steve
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: Diksta on November 02, 2011, 04:44:41 AM
thanks for the info
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: rodsswag on November 02, 2011, 10:22:06 AM
How many bottles of spirits can you take in one car? I make my own so I was thinking about 6-8 for the whole trip or is that to many for up there?  :cheers: Rod....
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: jk on November 02, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
You can put them in my car for safe keeping  >:D , and you can camp close to yogi, McGirr and me, we'll show you how to hide large amounts of the stuff  ;D .   

Seriously.....I think they consider a bottle of spirits the same as a carton of beer, if their in the camper under the camping gear you won't have any problems.
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: gclan on November 02, 2011, 10:58:41 AM
The no bottle rule and only being able to buy cans, is that because of the risk of breaking the glass or the amount of alcohol that can be consumed? Can you take your own alcohol with you in plastic soft drink bottles?
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: McGirr on November 02, 2011, 11:25:13 AM
The no bottle rule and only being able to buy cans, is that because of the risk of breaking the glass or the amount of alcohol that can be consumed? Can you take your own alcohol with you in plastic soft drink bottles?

Alcohol restrictions
The maximum amount of alcohol a person can have in the NPA is:

•2 litres of wine (unfortified) and 11.25 litres (1 x 30 can carton) of any strength beer
Or

•2 litres of wine (unfortified) and 9 litres (1 x 24 can carton) of premixed spirits of up to 5.5% alcohol/volume
This amount is per person on foot, or per vehicle, boat or aircraft regardless of the number of people in it.

It is an offence to drink in a public place.

However, the Loyalty Beach Camping Ground, New Mapoon and the Seisia Camping Ground are designated wet areas. Registered guests of these camping grounds are permitted to drink alcohol.
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: McGirr on November 02, 2011, 11:28:32 AM
You can carry any amount you like in any bottles or cans but once we cross the Jardine the restrictions apply and all members will decide what they wish to carry.

Pm me for any other information as I do not wish people to think I am suggesting breaking the restrictions.

Mark
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: watto11 on November 02, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
Hey guys good luck with the trip one other place to keep in mind is chilli beach when we travelled up to the cape in 2010 I inquired about chilli beach and believe I was told that restrictions apply around that area as well main because of vacinity to Lockhart river we choose not to
Head in there because of weather so never incounted any more about it I believe it was a cop that told me.
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: noel_w on November 02, 2011, 02:23:19 PM
Just add another 85L water tank under the CT. Then add 85L of vodka to it
Problem solvered.
Just take lot's of Cranberry juice with you coz it's very healthy!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: gclan on November 02, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
I like the way you think. Where did you say you'll be camping? ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: Beachman on November 02, 2011, 04:17:53 PM
When we did the Cape years ago, talking to other campers it was common for Lemonade Soft Drink bottles to be filled with Vodka and Cranberry juice bottles to contain Red Wine.

They weren’t trying to take excessive amounts of grog in, they just didn’t want buy at the exorbitant prices the local shop was selling it for. I actually bought a carton of Gold cans from Thursday Island when we visited there on our day trip as it was considerably cheaper.

As said before as long as no one goes stupid and brings attention to themselves, you should be okay.
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: watto11 on November 02, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I agree with not drawing attention to your self I did take more than the allowed amount but I was travelling just with my wife and kids I think groups tend to be asked more ?'s of
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: McGirr on November 02, 2011, 05:21:25 PM
In all the years I have done the Cape I have never been pulled over but as mentioned don't do any thing stupid and you will be ok.

At the end of the day you will buy alcohol at the Cape and it will be expensive about $60 for 24 cans but you expect that as everything is freighted up by ship. Fuel was $1.95 a liter for petrol.

Mark
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: SteveandViv on November 02, 2011, 05:24:52 PM
OK.. Go here and read for your selves. I know Mark has posted info on this before.. At the end of the day you will have to decide. The only place where carrying limits apply was after the Jardine. And as long as you can prove you are travelling through the other areas, Lochhardt etc then you will also be fine.

http://www.olgr.qld.gov.au/indigenous/alcoholManagementPlans/index.shtml
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: GeoffA on November 02, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
At the end of the day you will buy alcohol at the Cape and it will be expensive about $60 for 24 cans
Mark

That's a LOT cheaper than $37 for 6 cans at Yulara (and 6 is the limit).........or $6/can over the bar at William Creek........

Doesn't seem too bad in comparison.

Cheers,
Geoff
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: McGirr on November 02, 2011, 05:49:42 PM
I forgot to mention any advice, assistance or help will cost you a beer or 5 during the trip. It's known as Cape Currency.So allow for that in doing your numbers on how many beers you need to take.  :cheers:

Mark
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: Soots on November 07, 2011, 04:56:12 PM
And different areas have different restrictions so do your homework. Coppers up there don't usually go looking for jobs as there's enough to do but don't bring attention to yourself and all should be fine.
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: rodsswag on January 03, 2012, 07:15:36 PM
Just add another 85L water tank under the CT. Then add 85L of vodka to it
Problem solvered.
Just take lot's of Cranberry juice with you coz it's very healthy!! :cheers:

Can you  use Bourbon instead of Vodka???????
What about Port and the Tim Tams??????? how can we do that??????? :cheers:

Rod.......
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: McGirr on January 03, 2012, 08:07:17 PM
Whatever you like  ;D

Mark
Title: Re: Alcohol on the Trip
Post by: Diksta on January 03, 2012, 08:36:36 PM
i hear they make some good home brew in India, that's what we need.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/at-least-16-people-die-in-india-after-drinking-toxic-home-brew/story-fn7x8me2-1226235032893 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/at-least-16-people-die-in-india-after-drinking-toxic-home-brew/story-fn7x8me2-1226235032893)