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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Snow on September 21, 2008, 08:34:55 PM
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Whaddya reckon, whats better? Steel or Plastic 20 lt Jerry cans. Before I add a couple to my CT I ask council of the forum learned for their opinion.
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If they aren't stored in a place where they are likely to get damaged (from flying stones etc) go for plastic, cheap, light, and these days they are colour coded so you don't have to take the lid off and take a whiff to work out whats in it.
Otherwise go for the metal ones.
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If they are being stored where they can get damaged or if you are going places where you need your fuel (ULP mostly) secure then steel
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/Teabag_album/Camper%20Trailer%20Technical/P6210011.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/Teabag_album/Camper%20Trailer%20Technical/P6210012.jpg)
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/Teabag_album/Camper%20Trailer%20Technical/P6210013.jpg)
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
Thats a trick little gadget Paul, i hate lifting jerry's up to the car. How much and where from??????
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
Teabag i havn't seen one of these, where do you get them?
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I didnt have jerry can holders, so I had them lashed down on top of my CT using ratchet straps. I had the plastic jerrys. With the corrugation roads I wore down some of the plastic where it was touching the metal edge. Not good, so I had to use rubber mats all around the jerrys to protect them from rubbing.
I too want that tanami device.
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
Thats a trick little gadget Paul, i hate lifting jerry's up to the car. How much and where from??????
I bought it several years ago (8 I think) at ARB Mandurah. I'm not sure if they are still made as I heard they have stopped making them. It was about $80 then so have no idea now what they cost now if you can get them. Try taking a copy of my pictures and going into all the 4wd mobs and see if they can source one. Colin, your right I also hate the lifting jerry can's to the car, this way I can leave them in the rack and fill up like a bouser.....Brilliant idea.....
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Another vote for the steel jerries although I do use a couple of the small plastic ones for fuel for the chainsaw and gennie if needed.
Craig
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
Thats a trick little gadget Paul, i hate lifting jerry's up to the car. How much and where from??????
c'mon mate, do not tell me you could not make it for about $25.....................being home and unemployed with time on your hands and all that ;D
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c'mon mate, do not tell me you could not make it for about $25......
It got me thinking as well... for about $8 you can get a standard flexi filler hose that has the right fitting onto a gerry can, cut off the flexi part and weld in a pipe and an air hose fitting the same or even a car wheel valve should not be too hard. Come to think of it you don't even need to weld in a pipe just pass it through the hole and down to the bottom of the gerry as long as it is i tight fit and seals properely.
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Nothing like a simple question to get the creative juices going. Thanks you blokes, the steel jerry is the go for me and I plan to knock up my own version of a Tanami pump. A bit of pipe, valve and relief and hose, just braze,add hose and pressure and wallah!
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
Thats a trick little gadget Paul, i hate lifting jerry's up to the car. How much and where from??????
c'mon mate, do not tell me you could not make it for about $25.....................being home and unemployed with time on your hands and all that ;D
I might just have a go at making one if i manage to get out of bed before midday...... might even see what i can make up using a nice big bit of black nylon that some bloke kindly gave me
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For fuel jerry cans I prefer steel as I think they are stronger and can take more of a beating IMO....Plus my Tanami pump only works with steel jerries....
Pictures of Tanami Pump: Works a treat, like filling up at a bouser......
Thats a trick little gadget Paul, i hate lifting jerry's up to the car. How much and where from??????
c'mon mate, do not tell me you could not make it for about $25.....................being home and unemployed with time on your hands and all that ;D
I might just have a go at making one if i manage to get out of bed before midday...... might even see what i can make up using a nice big bit of black nylon that some bloke kindly gave me
Thats right, I forgot that you were going to make two of them ;D
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I have just recently given my son one of my father's steel jerry cans.
Guess you wouldn't do that with plastic.
cheers
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Only prob I could see with steel cans is rust.....if it has been left empty (or partly empty ) for a while ??
With modern CRDI engines, any contamination can be fatal for the engine if it gets past the filter..
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Rust in steel petrol containers can be fixed with a 2 pack product.
I had my motor bike tank recently re conditioned with it.
It was flushed out with the first one, shaking it all about with some clean nuts and bolts etc to disloge any flaky stuff.
Then left to air for a day or so before treatment with the second coat being rotated around inside for a while and the surplus poured out.
This left a red-oxide coloured surface on the inside of the tank, which will hopefully last me another 30 years. (ever the optimist)
Not sure of the name of the product, but can chase it up if anyone is interested.
cheers
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I would be interested in knowing what that product is as i have a couple of Jerrys that have rust inside.
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Hi,
Try Permanent Protective Coatings, Phone (02) 490122.
The product you want is POR15, Fuel Tank Repair.
Rob or Jan should be able to fix you up OK
(got the above info from our local supplier)
cheers
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Excellent thanks
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Seeing as fuel is worth a bomb and there are many opportunists out and about I have drilled out the jerry cap latch and fitted a long shank padlock that not only locks the latch down but also anchors the cable securing the jerry to the drawbar. Works a treat.
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Seeing as fuel is worth a bomb and there are many opportunists out and about I have drilled out the jerry cap latch and fitted a long shank padlock that not only locks the latch down but also anchors the cable securing the jerry to the drawbar. Works a treat.
Good idea but make sure you label the Jerry cans as Diesel. It is common for certain people to punch a hole in the side of a jerry with a screw driver to get access to petrol (not diesel) for sniffing. If it's labeled diesel then it's usless for them to do this.......Far more common than you would think, very common through the centre......... :cheers:
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Rust in steel petrol containers can be fixed with a 2 pack product.
I had my motor bike tank recently re conditioned with it.
It was flushed out with the first one, shaking it all about with some clean nuts and bolts etc to disloge any flaky stuff.
Then left to air for a day or so before treatment with the second coat being rotated around inside for a while and the surplus poured out.
This left a red-oxide coloured surface on the inside of the tank, which will hopefully last me another 30 years. (ever the optimist)
Not sure of the name of the product, but can chase it up if anyone is interested.
cheers
If that's the stuff I used in my bike's tank, you could buy 3 brand new jerries for the price
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Seeing as fuel is worth a bomb and there are many opportunists out and about I have drilled out the jerry cap latch and fitted a long shank padlock that not only locks the latch down but also anchors the cable securing the jerry to the drawbar. Works a treat.
Good idea but make sure you label the Jerry cans as Diesel. It is common for certain people to punch a hole in the side of a jerry with a screw driver to get access to petrol (not diesel) for sniffing. If it's labeled diesel then it's usless for them to do this.......Far more common than you would think, very common through the centre......... :cheers:
I wonder if the 'certain peaple' would be smart enough to realise the 'diesel jerry' is mounted to a CT hooked up to a V6 petrol rodeo. ??? Yeah good one brudda.
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Steel is the go as the Tanami Pumps work like a treat with them
But those with plastic Jerries
We also have a pump on the way
To suit Willow and Wedco jerries
(http://www.extremelimitsoffroad.com.au/images/tanami%20pro%20pump.jpg)
See www.extremelimitsoffroad.com.au
Cheers
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It's an interesting subject. Most replies are related to carrying fuel of one type or another.
I was just wondering what type of "jerry" can you swagers use for water. I recently carried 3 diesel Plastic jerry's on the front of the CT on a long trip without a problem but my plastic backup water Jerry split. Twice. Not from stones but just split open. I searched for strong replacement ones but found none available. All were not as strong {thick} as the fuel type. I replaced it with a red Petrol Jerry and marked it WATER. I didn't have a problem after that. Just not keen on it as a permanent option but not keen on steel for water either. ???
Cheers
Bushfly
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It's an interesting subject. Most replies are related to carrying fuel of one type or another.
I was just wondering what type of "jerry" can you swagers use for water. I recently carried 3 diesel Plastic jerry's on the front of the CT on a long trip without a problem but my plastic backup water Jerry split. Twice. Not from stones but just split open. I searched for strong replacement ones but found none available. All were not as strong {thick} as the fuel type. I replaced it with a red Petrol Jerry and marked it WATER. I didn't have a problem after that. Just not keen on it as a permanent option but not keen on steel for water either. ???
Cheers
Bushfly
Mate,
Go to an Army disposal and get the Army green plastic jerry cans. These are the best for carrying water IMO........
Cheers.
Teabag
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I second that, have got one each side of the trailer for extra water, been there for two and a bit years and covered a lot of country without a problem. :cup:
Craig
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me three...!
got one of these for water and its never been a problem.
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Me 4. The Green plastic cans are also carry 22l instead of 20l, plus they are not quite as tall as the Willow type and hence have less clearance issues if you have a lift up bed base.
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Here is a picture of the Army Green plastic jerry......
http://www.proquip.com.au/Images/Jerry%20Can%20Main%20Page/Water%20Can%20Page/1003.jpg
Or here is a metal NATO blue version if you would prefer metal.....
http://www.proquip.com.au/Images/Jerry%20Can%20Main%20Page/Water%20Can%20Page/0971.jpg
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There is also another version that has two openings, one small and one large. This container appears strongly constructed, however I can't find a reference to it on the Net. Snowy's Camping in Adelaide have them.
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There is also another version that has two openings, one small and one large. This container appears strongly constructed, ......
I borrowed 3 of these (yellow colour) for a recent trip to WA - no dramas with them, water did not pick up any taste. Would prefer a darker colour just to ensure no long term algae growth.
cheers
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There is also another version that has two openings, one small and one large. This container appears strongly constructed, however I can't find a reference to it on the Net. Snowy's Camping in Adelaide have them.
This has the two openings, one large and one small.......Disposals are generally the best place to go and get the original Army version.......Though some may prefer the metal version also shown.........
PS: Please note that these are for "Water Only" ...........
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I have had 3 of the yellow water containers for at least 10 years and never had any dramas.
I also have 2 plastic fuel jerry cans that have seen a far bit of service over the last 15 years and are still going strong. The only thing I do is make sure there is a piece of cardboard between them if they are touching to help stop them rubbing through each other over the corrugations. I have also seen the steel jerries rub through. Beauty of the plastic ones is that they don't rattle, although when I used to carry unleaded they could just about go spherical when empty and it was quite hot. Would recommend the plastic.
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definitely steel is the way to go for me,plastic just won't last like steel(imo) :cheers:
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Thanks for the info everyone.
The green army type are just what I was looking for, but obviously not in the right places.
I also carried 3 yellow plastic jerry cans over many K's without problems, but they are my Diesel containers. I think that yellow is the recognised colour for Diesel and red for petrol. Everywhere I tried it was a choice of Red Yellow or Clear/blue. No Green HD.
It was the clear/tinted blue containers, nominated as for water that I had splitting problems with.
I had not come across the green Army type before and thats what's great about this forum, been able to tap into other's experience and ideas. :cheers:
Thanks
Bushfly
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Some of the bigger dedicated camping stores should have them.
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i also have the plastic hd for water,cost was about 35 from memory and bought from disposal store in hamilton vic,has been in the weather for the last year and so far no probs with splitting or cracking
still-i would not trust it to hold petrol or diesel,ok for water thou (imo)
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Anyone seen these in Oz, they look to be a good idea, http://www.expeditionone.biz/Geri_intro.htm
GG
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I have 4 steel Jerry's mainly because Biodiesel and Plastic can be a little bit of a problem... Those Tanami Pump's are sold on ebay and you can now also get them for plastic jerry's as well...
I made something similar about 7 years ago to move biodiesel from 205litre drums... You really need to be mindful when playing with low pressures in containers of those sizes you could have a little accident quite easily if you don't watch what you are doing.... A good relief valve is a must and a low pressure regulator another must....
But I have never found a relief valve that suited me so I make sure I have the pressure low on the regulator and a hand on the air tap to only let in enough air to move the fuel.... BTW my little on board compressor will move 150litre bio in about 10-15mins and beauty using that is that I find it does not over pressurise the Drum.....
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If you want to have water at ARB Richmond Vic they have stainless steel 20L short squat Jerry's . I asked the price about $250 each , they haven't sold to many .Can you belive that ??? :cheers:
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If you want to have water at ARB Richmond Vic they have stainless steel 20L short squat Jerry's . I asked the price about $250 each , they haven't sold to many .Can you belive that ??? :cheers:
For that bargain price I cant imagine why they havn't sold many Speewa :o :o ??? ???
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definitely steel is the way to go for me,plastic just won't last like steel(imo) :cheers:
I agree - I bought 2 steel jerry cans because I'm sure (from memory) that the plastic ones said not to leave out in the sun. Bit hard if the cans are on the side of your trailer!
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Black Rheem jerries are the go in my opinion. I have played soldiers and chucked out 1/2 the steel jerries taken on a cape convoy due to split seams or failed seals. Never binned a plastic water jerry.
This is not an issue standard water jerry, the plastic is to thin and the caps aren't up to standard.
(http://www.proquip.com.au/Images/Jerry%20Can%20Main%20Page/Water%20Can%20Page/1003.jpg)
These ones are the go. 2 vented serrated caps with O rings, one big, one small and you could use it to chock a tank. Issue ones have no hole for a tap, but the civi version does. They also may have the Nato Stock Number 7240-66-054-4944 which is a give away.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b183/Spanner28/PJ0003.jpg)