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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: olddigger on March 10, 2011, 01:27:57 AM
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Music lover (classical) wants to take lots of music on long trips, can't justify space/hassle of carrying CDs, thinking of iPod.
Question: is loading contents of CDs on to iPod (presumably via computer) relatively simple? While I am relatively computer literate, I have low tolerance level for fiddly procedures. All advice welcome, Cheers, Tony
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To load CDs onto an iPod requires iTunes which makes the process of getting the music onto the computer fairly simple
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Putting CDs onto an iPod is extremely easy... Launch iTunes, ensure your Internet connection is on (this let's iTunes automatically get the disc name and track titles) insert cd, iTunes will then ask if you want to import the disc, click ok/yes... iTunes does it's thing. Repeat process for all CDs and then once done, plug in your iPod. If it is a large one, it will automatically upload all your music to the iPod for you and your down. If it is a small iPod, you will just nee to highlight the music you want on the iPod and then drag them over to the iPod icon in iTunes... It is that easy.
BJ
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I hate iTunes. Have previously used other software to load iPod, but now with a iPhone I feel stuck with it.
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iTunes will do the job if you only have a small music collection. The digital rights management is really painful though.
For large collections I've found Windows Media Player to be not too bad, but that means you'll have to use something other than an iPod.
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I have over 7,500 songs currently in iTunes (all from CD) and have never had a problem with its operation or performance. I do not consider that to be a small music collection, and know others with tens of thousands of files in their system and they also do not have a problem.
Use iTunes. You'll be fine.
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Another option is to load music on a thumbdrive.
Only usable when you have an usb slot in your car radio.
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I have over 7,500 songs currently in iTunes (all from CD) and have never had a problem with its operation or performance. I do not consider that to be a small music collection, and know others with tens of thousands of files in their system and they also do not have a problem.
Use iTunes. You'll be fine.
I have about 28,000 in mine, iTunes crashes everytime I try to load them into the library.
WMP works perfectly.
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The digital rights management is really painful though.
Only if you buy your music through itunes. I use a mac at home so all my music is on itunes and it works just fine for me
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In defence of the iPod, they're handy when someone can play DJ, more so than the USB drives.
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I hate iTunes. Have previously used other software to load iPod, but now with a iPhone I feel stuck with it.
jules - ive been struggling for the last week with itunes - what it does to my compilation albums (of which i have some 400gb of) is murderous
ive downloaded copytrans for the computer and amp music player for iphone - copytrans is like itunes without the bloat and amp is like winamp for iphone - will let you know how i get on
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my main prob with itunes is i have 400gb of compilations which are spread amongst the other 600 odd gb of non compilation music
anyway just to try what someone on another forum said - deleted all the music on my iphone - did what he said with 2 albums - bar lounge classics vol 1 and 2 get info - tick as compilation.
when i put it in the iphone and go into compilations instead of
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 2
i get
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 1
bar lounge classics vol 1
etc
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
bar lounge classics vol 2
etc
all in all 28 of them
and every single artist is listed in the artist page - who cares about some one hit wonder - way to clog up my artist page - put 30 or so compilations with all the various artists contained along with my normal albums and there with be around 6-700 artists from these compilations that i just dont care about
as well as 600-700 compilations all repeating themselves
this is with compilation ticked on both albums
the only way i could find around this was to select the albums and delete the artist name from them - that worked but is time consuming - in the compilations manager i had to make sure the album artist was removed as well - as a lot of the metadata is all over the place in my music - the album artist is often the individual artist for the track in the compilation.
essentially - itunes and ipod on iphone is a nightmare - on my old ipod you had a button you could tick in the iphone itself that made compilations work well - iphone doesnt have this. :(
ok - just been playing with amp and it is the joy - soooooooo much nicer than the ipod in iphone and it gets my compilations right without having to spend a million years fixing them
i think if i had a mac or a more powerful computer itunes might be ok - but every time i have itunes running my little 1.66ghz notebook stats stuttering - i look at performance and itunes is munching everything - using 60+% of cpu etc etc - copytrans uses next to nothing
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I have about 28,000 in mine, iTunes crashes everytime I try to load them into the library.
WMP works perfectly.
You need a Mac. :D
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Olddigger, once you get an Ipod or similar you wont look back :cup:. I have music loaded on mine as well as movies for the kids to watch whilst travelling ;D. I connect the Ipod to a couple of video screens and away they go. Only problem :'(, I cant listen to my music whilst they watch a movie :'(..
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What's an Ipod?
I tried listening to my Sony Walkman but the AA batteries last no time on the road. Now I just take the portable record player and an inverter. Gets a bit bumpy off road, but using a cushion between the player and the wife's lap minimises the needle skipping. I find 78's are best when there are lots of corrugations, particularly if you harmonise the bumps to the vehicle speed.
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ITunes is rubbish.
WinAmp for PC is much easier.
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Sharepod is your friend :cheers:
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ITunes is rubbish.
WinAmp for PC is much easier.
Amen brother.
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Music lover (classical) wants to take lots of music on long trips, can't justify space/hassle of carrying CDs, thinking of iPod.
Question: is loading contents of CDs on to iPod (presumably via computer) relatively simple? While I am relatively computer literate, I have low tolerance level for fiddly procedures. All advice welcome, Cheers, Tony
I think we probably need to get this thread a little bit more back on track and not be a "I hate itunes" rant :police:
Everyone is going to have differing opinions and olddigger was asking about how easy it is for iPods. If you don't think an iPod is suitable, maybe back your statements up or offer alternative music players etc... Saying winamp is better does not seem to help what old digger was asking.
Just my two cents... 8)
BJ
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What's an Ipod?
I tried listening to my Sony Walkman but the AA batteries last no time on the road. Now I just take the portable record player and an inverter. Gets a bit bumpy off road, but using a cushion between the player and the wife's lap minimises the needle skipping. I find 78's are best when there are lots of corrugations, particularly if you harmonise the bumps to the vehicle speed.
:laugh:
If only!! I have more music on vinyl than I care to think about. All sitting there begging to go camping so I can annoy the kids with old peoples music ...
For the record I use an iPod and my kids do too. I buy music, I copy CD's and I store photos too. I downloaded and update iTunes regularly and have no problems. I like the ease of use and for a beginner I think you should be able to manage just fine.
J
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Yeah olddigger did ask this, you are correct. My apologies!!
When he buys an Ipod, (they are still IMHO the better portable music player out there), then he will have to get music on and off it.
He also said he didn't want it to be too fiddly so i would sway him against ITunes, as we all know it has it's idiosyncrasies that will annoy the average punter.
WinAmp is better (although i think only the pro version connects easily to Ipod, happy to be proven wrong) and have just downloaded Sharepod and it looks very user friendly (thanks MrBitchi).
Don't get me wrong, i actually know and use ITunes but it has limitations and if you aren't used to play lists and importing libraries etc it can be a pain.
:cheers: BJ for trying to get it back on track..........
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olddigger,
if your low tolerance level for fiddly procedures does not include typing, you can load your CD's via computer without accessing itunes, and simply enter the songs' info from the CD jackets.
I have recently also entered the 21st century (bought an ipod) and have successfully loaded about 1600 songs with their respective info this way. Improves your typing skills, too !
Takes a while, tho' ...
Phil
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The good thing is that you can load the covers as well.
Just search for your CD on theweb, find the cover and paste it into the file.
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Hi All,
An interesting thread we have here.
If you are Mac then iTunes is unbeatable. I am among other things a professional Audio Director and Engineer with 50,000 tracks loaded in and iTunes is unbeatable.
I have spoken to colleagues who use iTunes on a PC and they have very few problems but stress that you need to be careful how you label the tracks for them to catalogue properly. As a preference if you do not need to sync with an iPod, Winamp seems to be the choice. i used to be PC about 7 years ago and used Windows Media Player, Winamp, an early PC iTunes and Mediamonkey. At that time Mediamonkey was probably the best, do not know if it still exists.
Tony.
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Old Digger,
There seems to be alot of opinions here ... for and against ... which proves it's a personal choice.
I have a classic Ipod, which I load all manner of music, photo's and documents onto. Even got a couple of Itunes free downloadable TV shows and I do love the movies. It's more than just a music player.
So far I have found that it's excellent in the car, on the laptop or computer, connects easily to my stereo (via cord) and another via Ipod dock. If you like your music, then you really can't go wrong with them. The software is easily loaded. The music is easily loaded. It's not rocket science, although some may suggest that it is.
For the price, it's much cheaper than buying all the CD's (much easier than taking them all), and more convenient than a USB flash drive. Of course, they have their known issues (all electronics have the potential to stuff up or die). My first one died within a week, but was replaced under warranty and I haven't had any problems since. The earphones have only just carked it ... I think mine is about 5 years old ... so I'm requiring another set, but it works very well within the car.
Kit_e
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The other thing I love mine for is podcasts. I can download stuff I miss (eg interesting bits from Radio National) and listen later. I subscribe to some things (eg health matters on ABC radio) so it sync's when I plug my iPod in.
J
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I find the easiest method for me is to not worry about catalog the music, but to first copy the album into a separate folder (my music), then drag & drop the album into the music folder in itunes. It asks to convert the file to mp4 (I think) & I just ok that & let it do it's thing.
The thing is, any music you have in the itunes music folder is synced / copied to your player. It seems at first there is no way to remove music off the player, but I found if you delete the music from itunes it is then removed from the player next time you sync. The original copy is kept in the original .cda / mp3 or whatever format is still in the my music folder and can be re-used in itues at any time.
Once you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple, and if you google you will find plenty of info out there on how to use these gadgets.
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The thing is to not let I-Tunes manages your folders. That way you rip the CD and it is then added to your library. You then find it in I-Tunes and then drag it to your I-POD. If you don't want some thing on your I-POD you select it and remove it. While I don't have to remove the 18,000 odd music files I do have to with movies and that process works just fine
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being an ipod lover... I hate Apple and its limitations/restrictions.... but with patience and some careful planning, ipod/itunes/apple becomes clearer and easier to use.
I travel with 25,700 songs on my ipod hard wired into the stereo and also have an ipod dock fitted with 10 hour usable rechargable batteries that allows for wonderful mood setting when camping.
Private message me if you would like to make contact for advice on how to plan your ipod loading and how to actually succeed with music - how you like it, when you like it!
Sing like no one is listening, dance like there is no one watching! music is a wonderful accompaniment to travel like wine is to food!
Cheers
Alby
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Yea, right.......
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Its down to the individual...but i find Itunes rubbish
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Thanks to all for your replies on this vexing topic and apologies for delay in this reply (been away in the van, with no music). It seems it might be easier to take the CDs . . .
Just joking. Will look into all this soonest (and buy an iPod!). Cheers, Tony