Proposed changes to NSW Registration

[alnjan]

http://vehicleregistration.engagementhq.com/vehicle-registration-initiatives-vri

Have a read.  In short from what I can tell if you own an older vehicle it will be deemed to be unsafer and  non-greener then a new vehicle so you will eventually have to pay more to register your beloved older vehicle, regardless of if you can afford a newer, safer, greener vehicle, if you want to or not.

[ATC]

here's the link to when the minister launched the discussion


I'm going with greedy buggers trying to increase the revenue stream by calling it safety / environment etc...

BTW I drive a ANCAP rated 5 star vehicle that is Euro Spec 4 compliant.

They do similar to this in other countries - tiered registration based on age of vehicle.
That's why so many 2nd hand cars are availble internationally, New Zealand is full of them.

Make registration / insurance so expensive that people will buy a new car.

It's often hidign a government enforced stimulus by mankign old cars so expensive it's cheaper to buy a new one, trouble here is we don't make car's here anymore, the (Federal) Government didn't think it was strategic, clever or that the people who worked there would ever vote for them.

[MDS69]

http://vehicleregistration.engagementhq.com/vehicle-registration-initiatives-vri

Have a read.  In short from what I can tell if you own an older vehicle it will be deemed to be unsafer and  non-greener then a new vehicle so you will eventually have to pay more to register your beloved older vehicle, regardless of if you can afford a newer, safer, greener vehicle, if you want to or not.

They do that now.
A green slip for my 2008 V6 Toyota Prado is $520.00 - kerb weight 2000kg
A green slip for my 1982 V8 Holden Commodore is $570.00 - kerb weight 1352kg

[MarkGU]

just another way to rip more money from our pockets.

                    NSW
                         The  Revenue State

[alnjan]

They do that now.
A green slip for my 2008 V6 Toyota Prado is $520.00 - kerb weight 2000kg
A green slip for my 1982 V8 Holden Commodore is $570.00 - kerb weight 1352kg

Green slips are with insurance companies, at least you have the option to hunt around for a cheaper one.  With rego you don't have that option

[Snow]

Have another read. It is to be applied to new light vehicles. There is no mention of applying it to current registered vehicles.

The 82 Bomadoor and my 2001 Rodeo are not subject to this proposal.

 

[dazzler]

http://vehicleregistration.engagementhq.com/vehicle-registration-initiatives-vri

Have a read.  In short from what I can tell if you own an older vehicle it will be deemed to be unsafer and  non-greener then a new vehicle so you will eventually have to pay more to register your beloved older vehicle, regardless of if you can afford a newer, safer, greener vehicle, if you want to or not.

"Passenger vehicles: changing the new vehicle registration charge from one based on vehicle weight, to also include vehicle safety and environmental criteria. Safety would be determined by the vehicle’s ANCAP (External link)rating and the environmental component by the vehicle’s emissions"

Nothing about paying more (though that may be the case). 

I read that to indicate that the safer and environmentally cleaner a vehicle is the cheaper it is to register, Regardless of its weight, would be a good thing for the environment and road users.  Something people who love spending time on the road getting to the beloved natural environment to camp   

[rags]

 The consultants would have been engaged to do a review with the outcome to make the public warm and fussy whilst ensuring that the revenue base remains the same,eg reduce the rego cost of caravans and light trailers that currently pay a weigh tax but introduce a weight tax on trailers that don't currently attract a tax. Me think they have done the sums and worked out that there are many more trailers that they are missing out on the tax so increase the cost on these whilst reducing the caravan cost. So us swaggers will feel good while with our reduced camper rego with the minister promoting this fact but many more will get charged more for their 6x4 box trailer with out knowing and it won't be in the press release.
I guess I am just annoyed that the Jayco Expanda that weighs approx 1180kg that I just bought from Vic that showed a cost of $49 rego fee on the papers in Vic just cost me $370 to rego in NSW, and the daughters car that was going to cost $1200 to rego in NSW cost $649 in QLD where she now lives.
I guess I agree the system needs a review but maybe in comparison with what other states pay.

[alnjan]

Have another read. It is to be applied to new light vehicles. There is no mention of applying it to current registered vehicles.

The 82 Bomadoor and my 2001 Rodeo are not subject to this proposal.

 

Sorry Snow,

You have to go reading further

https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ehq-production-australia/18a49c79a2d8863c9ceca78f55d954345c86101b/documents/attachments/000/013/013/original/TNSW_Vehicle_Registration_QandA_WCAG_11_05_05_(2).pdf?1401767120

WILL ALL VEHICLES
BE AFFECTED BY THE
PROPOSED REFORMS?
Passenger vehicles and
motorcycles
The proposed new registration system would
initially apply only to the registration of new light
passenger vehicles and motorcycles (including
scooters) from a prescribed implementation
date. The reforms will not be retrospective.
Following implementation of the reforms
for new vehicles, the remainder of the NSW
light vehicle and motorcycle fleet would then
be transitioned over to the new charging
framework a number of years later, to allow
customers adequate lead time to plan ahead.
An adequate lead time is important to allow
owners of second-hand vehicles that do not
meet modern safety and environmental criteria
(and therefore may later be subject to increased
registration charges) time to plan for the new
charging criteria.
TfNSW would conduct thorough analysis before
applying safety and environmental criteria to
the entire light vehicle fleet. This would include
assessing the availability and the application of
safety and environmental ratings for older vehicles.

[rags]

Just read the summary, and regarding caravans and light trailers,currently there are approx 815000 trailers of all sorts registered and of these there are 536000 trailers that currently the govt are missing out on rego weight taxes  that they are targeting but will reduce the cost on the remaining 280000 odd trailers that currently pay a weight tax. I don't think the govt will miss out.

[rags]

 The reforms will not be retrospective.
Following implementation of the reforms
for new vehicles, the remainder of the NSW
light vehicle and motorcycle fleet would then
be transitioned over to the new charging
framework a number of years later, to allow
customers adequate lead time to plan ahead.
An adequate lead time is important to allow
owners of second-hand vehicles that do not
meet modern safety and environmental criteria
(and therefore may later be subject to increased
registration charges) time to plan for the new
charging criteria.

It is a little miss leading as although it states  that the proposed charging would not be retrospective, it also states that " the remainder of NSW fleet would transition over a number of years,to allow customers adequate lead time and [therefore may later be subject to increased registration charges] time to plan for the new charging criteria.,[That maybe applied in future]
Which implies that at a set time down the track if you are still driving that eg 2003 non common rail  non euro ? diesel Prado that may only have about a 3.5safety star rating you probably may pay more, because you just can't move with the times.

[alnjan]

Yep same for everyone with an older vehicle and the heavier 80 Series and GQs etc

[Hairs]

time to plan for the new charging criteria.

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If you have an older heavier vehicle and you can't afford to upgrade, get use to the idea you are going to pay more.

 

[krisandkev]

I wish Qld Transport would move into the real world and allow auto debit function. Currently it is a real pain when travelling.  I think this is able to be done in some other states.  Qld requirement for having rego labels finishes later this year and it just makes sense to encourage people to set up auto payments.  Kevin