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Title: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: cancan on December 17, 2010, 07:33:06 AM
Was about to take the CT away for our first adventure this afternoon although with the current batch of storms might postpone until tomorrow morning but have decided to take our tarp to put up over the CT and camp site.
Just wondering how other people set there tarps up. With the tent set up I have a spreader bar to form the ridge and I have a centre pole but I cant use the centre poll with the CT and annex (want the annex walls up as the rain has been driving sideways lately) so any ideas and more importantly pics much appreciated.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 17, 2010, 07:50:14 AM
Here you go

GG
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Followme1 on December 17, 2010, 07:58:19 AM
Wouldn't that flap like crazy in the wind?

George
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: fabulous on December 17, 2010, 08:02:13 AM
We were out last week on a trip, whilst in Lakes Entrance, it was expected to storm and pour rain, even though we had seasoned our camper, there was a tiny leak last time we were out (Wilson's Prom) again in massive rain (seems to be something about our camping), we put our tarp out over the camper to ensure there was no issue (we hadn't got a chance to put some seam sealer on).

The way we put the tarp up was (as ours it a hard floor), simply connected the tarp to the rear of the camper (the rear once folder out - whilst closed it was at the front) whilst closed, and as the camper opened up, it dragged the tarp over the roof.  It was very easy, and all we had to do was put on some ropes and all was good - didn't move at all.

The rain was pretty noisy on the tarp (as opposed to the canvas).

We want to get to the point that we don't need a tarp, at the moment we would only consider if we were expecting very heavy rain.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 17, 2010, 08:12:21 AM
Wouldn't that flap like crazy in the wind?

George
It does a bit but we had over 100mm of rain that weekend and we were able to pack up dry, we only tarp up if we know we are going to get a heap of rain or if we are in one spot for more than 4 days and the weather is warm, the extra protection is worth the hassle of the tarp.

GG
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Humbolt on December 17, 2010, 08:40:30 AM

Sorry i don't have any ideas or photos but am trying to also decide on if and how a tarp can be used with the current weather.
We are heading to Straddie between Christmas and New Year and with the storms so frequent at the moment, i am wondering whether to tarp or not.
With a decent tarp set up though we are looking at around $400, not cheap!!

One of the reasons we would tarp is to make the  CT cooler but wouldn't you need an air gap between the CT and tarp for this to work?
I have thought about lying it straight on the CT but wouldn't that then just be for rain protection?
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Mandrake on December 17, 2010, 09:07:46 AM
I use one of those "el cheapo" blue Poly tarps for when the heavy rain is due - Still haven't been in one spot long enough to leave it up for sun shield ... note to self - GET OUT MORE !!

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: cancan on December 17, 2010, 09:28:18 AM
My train of thought is to use the CT as a ridge where I can but keep the ends of the tarp a bit higher to create a gap between the canvas and tarp.
My aim is to keep trailer and site as dry as possible plus have the ability to pack up the canvas dry.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: SteveandViv on December 17, 2010, 09:32:25 AM
Sorry i don't have any ideas or photos but am trying to also decide on if and how a tarp can be used with the current weather.
We are heading to Straddie between Christmas and New Year and with the storms so frequent at the moment, i am wondering whether to tarp or not.
With a decent tarp set up though we are looking at around $400, not cheap!!

One of the reasons we would tarp is to make the  CT cooler but wouldn't you need an air gap between the CT and tarp for this to work?
I have thought about lying it straight on the CT but wouldn't that then just be for rain protection?

Your right in that there should be a gap to allow the air through but you do get some benefit with it just on the roof as the reflective nature of the silver tarp seems to help ours be cooler. Ours is dark blue which was great for light or lack of and also as we traveled over winter it pick up the warmth quickly.

So while the gap would be nice I find it does help with out. As it turned out we had rain once in 6 Months of travelling and that was Dalhousie Springs so it was good to wash some dust off. Also we found out ours was well seasoned as there we no leaks..
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: GU Rich on December 17, 2010, 09:40:32 AM
My train of thought is to use the CT as a ridge where I can but keep the ends of the tarp a bit higher to create a gap between the canvas and tarp.
My aim is to keep trailer and site as dry as possible plus have the ability to pack up the canvas dry.
You can place some pool noodles between the tarp and the canvas. There cheap and light weight. Might be worth a try. I've never done this maybe some others have!

 :cheers:
Rich
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: SUPA105 on December 17, 2010, 10:52:23 AM


           We use the pool noodles with success for last couple of years....place them over the arch of the roof when the tarp is in place holds them mostly in place.......the insulation gain of the tarp is well worth the effort.....our tarp Zips on to the draw bar side of our softfloor camper and tensioned at other 3 sides.....no extra poles required....has faired many an afternoon storm.


 :cheers:
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: cancan on December 17, 2010, 11:18:50 AM
The pool noodle sounds interesting. I might slice 1 down the middle and sit that along the CT ridge and see how it stays in place.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: McGirr on December 17, 2010, 01:47:56 PM
This is what we use we adjust the poles depending on rain , sun and wind.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: JethroT on December 17, 2010, 02:11:48 PM
Put a rope through the noodles with a couple of knots and place them long ways over the V in the ridge,
Good as gold.
Regards
Geoff
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: speewa158 on December 17, 2010, 05:07:36 PM
We have 2 multie section fiberglass dome tent poles that cross over the top of the CT . at 1 end they drop in to corner tubes of the CT  then in to  square tube bashed into the ground . The grey plastic tarp  goes over the top with 3 poles at each end  , ropes & pegs . There is plenty of  flex in the wind & air space in the heat  of summer . :cheers:
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Humbolt on December 17, 2010, 05:55:02 PM
I have purchased a 20ft x 20ft Silver tarp off South East Tarps for $99 plus delivery. They are 230GSM and are virgin PE (strong) :) Can't recommend them enough, great to deal with!!
I am going to get some noodles, poles, guy ropes and pegs. Will be a bit of a jigsaw first up i am sure but will be fun  :cheers:

Cancan, we won't get it 100% right the first time but it sure will be worth it when we don't get wet :)
Happy Holidays
Hamish
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Murray on December 17, 2010, 08:25:09 PM
I like the pool noodle idea. I use a silver tarp when under trees and for sun shelter and have been concerned about the rubbing along the centre ridge on the canvas. To the pool shop!!

Murray
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Blinky Bill on December 17, 2010, 08:39:15 PM
The pool noodle idea sounds great. So simple too.

I'd have thought that the material would knock out that annoying squeeky sound that polystyrene gives. Obviously I'm wrong about that. Yes?

I'm just cranky cause I recently sold off 4 pool noodles for peanuts at a fund raiser. What a tosser!

I'm also looking into some pole extentions that I've heard about. I think the idea is that these caps sit on top of the existing pole for the tarp. It means you need less ropes & poles.

Anyone heard of these?

Cheers - Wayne  ???
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: D4D on December 17, 2010, 08:43:56 PM
Maybe this http://campertrailers.org/spreader_bar_support.htm
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Barry G on December 17, 2010, 09:10:18 PM
Should be easy enough to knock up out of a couple of small scrap wood blocks.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: cancan on December 17, 2010, 09:13:28 PM
I like the noodle idea as well....decided not to battle the storms tonight and will head off first thing in the morning...that gives me until beer a clock to play
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Foo on December 17, 2010, 10:02:59 PM
Do the silver tarp thingy and no, if you tie the sides down it is not noisy, or I am just lucky! ;D
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: SUPA105 on December 18, 2010, 07:52:27 AM
Me thinks the price of Pool noodles just went through the roof........can see them in the camping stores now......

Awning Circulation & Venting device......Better than Air Con.....No power needed.......Revolutionary new product......only $79.95 each while stocks last.


 :cheers:

Chris
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: HEM19X on December 19, 2010, 05:42:57 AM
For the ridge, we use a rope strung between 2 "Tri-poles". These poles are long enough to keep the tarp off the ct roof.

Yo need to get the "Tri-poles" - think they are made by Big Foot from a proper camping store, BCF etc don't stock them

Regrads

Hem
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: grantnielsen on December 19, 2010, 07:31:17 AM
Slightly Off-Topic!

Watch out for wear if you're in windy conditions. Protect the tent outer from the tarp anyway you can... Noodles etc. :D

Recently, a camp near me had a couple of places on their tent roof wear through.... from the constant tarp rubbing in the windy conditions.

They relied on the tent structure to also support the tarp. The tent outer was pretty much ruined.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: griz066 on December 19, 2010, 08:06:12 AM
Here is out setup and its worth the xtra effort to be able to pack up dry if it does rain.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: duggie on December 19, 2010, 09:42:59 AM
Hi guys and girls, I try to park the CT in an area where I can use trees as the tarp/over support anchors. Mind you Easter this year I had no tarp cover, rained for the four days camping at Tinaroo and did not get more than glass of water in the Trackabout Camper. Cheers and merry Christmas to you all, duggie.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: jclures on December 19, 2010, 11:19:02 AM
Has anyone brought and used one of these from austrackcampers.
I thought I might look at getting one later on if it will fit my new tent.

(http://www.austrackcampers.com.au/assets/trailer-accessories/sc3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: cancan on December 19, 2010, 01:19:18 PM
In the end I just through the tarp over the CT, put ttennis balls over any exposed poles, put poles under the tarp at gthe back for a covered area and tied the tarp down for the rest of the area. been raining since we set up so working well
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Jon on December 19, 2010, 04:31:31 PM
Has anyone brought and used one of these from austrackcampers.
I thought I might look at getting one later on if it will fit my new tent.

(http://www.austrackcampers.com.au/assets/trailer-accessories/sc3.jpg)



Got that exactly. Very effective at keeping out the rain but they also trap moisture from inside the tent coming through the canvas.
TBH a well set tarp I think would be better.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Pete the Pirate on December 23, 2010, 03:37:16 PM
After the past several weeks of torrential rain and coping with really really wet canvas I had a bag awning made up to suit my Kanga Big Red Camper.  Just quickly put it up in the front yard to give is a go just in case I need to use it over the break.  Looks OK and seems like it might do the trick once I do the job properly. I've put 3 pool noodles between the tarp and the tent and the temp seems to be remaining relatively cool inside despite being in full sun for around 2 hours now.
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: cancan on December 23, 2010, 08:34:53 PM
Hi pete the pirate. do you have more pics of your carry racks. Just been thinking of how to build something like that
Title: Re: Tarp over CT and camp site
Post by: Pete the Pirate on December 24, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
Hi pete the pirate. do you have more pics of your carry racks. Just been thinking of how to build something like that

Here you go cancan - just took some quick snaps. The rack is hinged at the upper starboard side front and rear and afixed with gas struts at the top on the same side. There is also a canter lever arrangement at the rear starboard side.  It is capable of carrying 100kg and when on longer trips that's where the tinnie goes.  It is locked down on the port side upper of the trailer in a couple of small box sections with held in place with a couple of aircraft undercarriage terry pins.
Hope this helps.....if you want any more info just holler and I'll see what I can do.