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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: rnrphantom on June 13, 2018, 12:39:08 PM
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Used our Snowpeak forged steel tent pegs for the first time on the weekend and well worth the price. (available from Drifta)
Easy to get into hard rocky ground (friends camping next to us bent their standard pegs putting them in) and even easier to remove. A couple of twists with the snowpeak hammer to loosen them and they came straight out. So easy in fact that the good lady did it and now has added this as her job.
No affiliation with this, just happy with the product. I'm getting too old and stiff in the joints to be wrestling with stubborn tent pegs so anything to make it easier must be good.
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We love ours too. A bit pricey but worth it once you have used them a few times.
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https://www.drifta.com.au/product/snow-peak-solid-stakes/ (https://www.drifta.com.au/product/snow-peak-solid-stakes/)
:cheers:
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Best pegs I have tried yet! Slowly replacing all my old ones as funds allow.
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Pricey yes, but they work a treat!
I have managed to bend one, surprisingly it was pulling it out not hammering it in that I bent it, was in hard packed road base at a caravan park.
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Wow - that is pricey!
If you want something that won't bend and is around $2 a peg then check these Rock Breakers: https://www.multislide.com.au/camping.html#Tent%20Pegs (https://www.multislide.com.au/camping.html#Tent%20Pegs)
I've been using them for years and they are awesome!
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My beef with the standard style peg like that is that the force isn't straight down the shaft, which is why so many of the standard ones bend. Those rock breaker ones may be stronger than normal, but I really like the design of the snow peak is better.
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Wow - that is pricey!
If you want something that won't bend and is around $2 a peg then check these Rock Breakers: https://www.multislide.com.au/camping.html#Tent%20Pegs (https://www.multislide.com.au/camping.html#Tent%20Pegs)
I've been using them for years and they are awesome!
I recently ordered some of these rock breaker ones.....they charged me 1.50 each and threw a few extra each..have used them on this trip..no bending of these....really good value
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I’ve managed to bend one. It was going through a rock. Still using it though.
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Personally i love my rebar pegs. 30 cm of rebar with a tang welded at the top and the bottom ground into a point. Bloody industructable seriously cheap to make and because of the ribs on the rebar also grip brilliantly.
Now you mention it i think ill head down and knock up a few spares for the flinders dirt at easter :-)
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How do these compare to the multitude ofscrew in tent pegs that are around nowadays such as
https://campingcaravanrv.com.au/shop/groundgrabba-pro/
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How do these compare to the multitude ofscrew in tent pegs that are around nowadays such as
https://campingcaravanrv.com.au/shop/groundgrabba-pro/
I first thought not a bad idea........until a group of two camper trailers decided to break camp at 6am in the morning, two cordless drills on hammer mode going hammer and tongs......are the serenity.
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Still like the landscape screws and the impact driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBArEY3NVW4&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBArEY3NVW4&t=0s)
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I did some research a while ago and discovered some alternatives that are very similar (cast iron vs Forged) to the snowpeak pegs:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-Cast-Iron-Nail-20Cm-Outdoor-Hiking-Awning-Canopy-Tent-Peg-Metal-Beach-Snow-Tent-Pegs/32995987300.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.30de75ebv3xbdC&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_8_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10131_10132_10133_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_53,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303-0&algo_pvid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-Cast-Iron-Nail-20Cm-Outdoor-Hiking-Awning-Canopy-Tent-Peg-Metal-Beach-Snow-Tent-Pegs/32995987300.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.30de75ebv3xbdC&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_8_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10131_10132_10133_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_53,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303-0&algo_pvid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303)
I haven't tried them, so cant vouch one way or the other. Also not trying to take anything away from Snowpeak, as they sell some great Kit.
Ended up going the way of Coach Bolts instead.
In our recent escape at Easter to Flinders Ranges, the Coach Bolts worked an absolute treat, holding down the flaps of our annex in some really bad howling wind, when our mid size pegs kept pulling straight out.
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This is worth a watch, the snowpeak would likely be stronger, bit it's a bit of a case of diminishing returns in my opinion https://youtu.be/fy6KEeXwQXQ (https://youtu.be/fy6KEeXwQXQ)
edit these are available from Tentworld at $1.29 for 225mm and $1.59 for the 300mm you get 7 for the price of the equivalent length Snowpeak peg from Drifta.
https://www.tentworld.com.au/?rf=kw&kw=pegs+key+head (https://www.tentworld.com.au/?rf=kw&kw=pegs+key+head)
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I have been using the Hillbilly Hi-Tensile pegs for years and have yet to bend them. I have really given them grief driving them through some terrible soil/rocks with a mash hammer and all that happens is that I very slightly flatten the top of the peg. They are now $3 each.
http://www.campingwithhillbilly.com/camping.php (http://www.campingwithhillbilly.com/camping.php) They are near the bottom of this page.
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Has anyone tried these from bunnings.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-wires-15pk-screw-in-tent-pegs_p3042468 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-wires-15pk-screw-in-tent-pegs_p3042468)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBArEY3NVW4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBArEY3NVW4)
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I bought a set of these in 300mm length - forged steel. Works out $35 cheaper than 6 of the equivalent drifta ones (with freight included) - near $6 a peg saving.
They are bloody good, so good, I bought another set.
I have compared them side by side to the drifta ones. On the whole, they are pretty identical, the head on the drifter is about 2mm greater and the tang is a little more substantial - not that you would ever break the head or tang on the clones.
All in all, better value for money IMO than the snow peak.
Still not cheap, but no cordless drill required.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6pcs-Forged-Steel-Tent-Solid-Stakes-Burly-Heavy-Duty-Tent-Pegs-Outdoor-Camping/263076324869?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=562076581319&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6pcs-Forged-Steel-Tent-Solid-Stakes-Burly-Heavy-Duty-Tent-Pegs-Outdoor-Camping/263076324869?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=562076581319&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)
This was the best value per peg I could find. Still yet to see a better deal.
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This was the best value per peg I could find. Still yet to see a better deal.
Have a watch of the video Onion linked above.
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Have a watch of the video Onion linked above.
Best value forged peg I meant by that comment.
Cheers, I have seen the vid prior. The supapeg one sure looks interesting, especially for the price. I almost thought about buying one to side by side test it against the ebay forged one. I may still do that - especially if I ever see one of the supapeg in the flesh. Having used the forged peg, I'm having a hard time accepting the supapeg would be as good, but without testing one, that opinion is subjective.
I reckon I could drive that forged one into concrete - almost.
EDIT: clicked on and noticed this is a different vid, I saw the original. Looks like I don't have to perform that test now.
That said, it may have just been luck - the drifta is punching through far more ground due to its extra length and one badly placed rock could have taken either out.
Still pretty impressive of the supapeg. As stated, that ground is hard. The parting shots were filmed at Wooramel River retreat, been there twice in my last couple of trips. I recognise the backdrop.
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Has anyone tried these from bunnings.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-wires-15pk-screw-in-tent-pegs_p3042468 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-wires-15pk-screw-in-tent-pegs_p3042468)
Not those ones specifically but ones from Aldi that look the same. I have used them a couple of times now and seem pretty good. Going to Lightning Ridge in a few weeks time so will give them a go in some pretty hard ground then and see how they perform.
As a general comment in regards to bang in pegs (I have the supapeg ones) I never found too many issues getting them in the ground but getting the buggers out again gave the guts a bit of a strain. Screw in and out for me :cup: + get to buy a new impact driver. Winning
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Have a watch of the video Onion linked above.
That is the video I posted above.
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Best value forged peg I meant by that comment.
EDIT: clicked on and noticed this is a different vid, I saw the original. Looks like I don't have to perform that test now.
That said, it may have just been luck - the drifta is punching through far more ground due to its extra length and one badly placed rock could have taken either out.
Still pretty impressive of the supapeg. As stated, that ground is hard. The parting shots were filmed at Wooramel River retreat, been there twice in my last couple of trips. I recognise the backdrop.
I would agree that it was probably (bad) luck involved for the Snowpeak peg based on the following,
A quick google tells me that forging steel increases it's strength by about 30% (not 100% sure of this number though),
The Snowpeak #20 pegs have a 6mm diameter so a 28mm cross-sectional area whilst the Supapeg (225mm & 300mm) has an 8mm diameter so a 50mm cross-sectional area, based on this I think although the Supapeg #20 is made from a process that produces stronger steel, the thicker diameter of the Supapeg ones more than compensates for it in this comparison. Cost comparison here is that the Snowpeak costs 7 times the amount.
The #30 Snowpeak though (used in the review) has an 8mm diameter peg, so should be about 30% stronger than the Supapeg 300mm, but costs about 7 times the amount, The ones from eBay are 5 times the amount.
Everyone's situation is different so value is a bit subjective, but this might help people make a more informed decision.
That is the video I posted above.
missed that one earlier
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32995987300.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.30de75ebv3xbdC&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_8_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10131_10132_10133_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103%2Csearchweb201603_53%2CppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303-0&algo_pvid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303 (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32995987300.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.30de75ebv3xbdC&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_8_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_317_10548_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10131_10132_10133_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103%2Csearchweb201603_53%2CppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303-0&algo_pvid=99b64009-f2d1-4418-be04-f8f7b3e62303)
As Juzzman noted above...
10 of them... for US$16.70 (and US$1.32 freight)
even with a really bad conversion rate... that's still only AUD$26.11
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The #30 Snowpeak though (used in the review) has an 8mm diameter peg, so should be about 30% stronger than the Supapeg 300mm, but costs about 7 times the amount, The ones from eBay are 5 times the amount.
Everyone's situation is different so value is a bit subjective, but this might help people make a more informed decision.
Just like oil's aint oil's, steel's aint steel's either. Forging helps with strength, yes, but you can not compare mechanical properties between the two unless you know what grades of steel we are dealing with here. Then there are heat treatment options which can change the equation again. I guarantee they are very different.
I agree with the multiple cost factors though, if the supapeg even lasts the same time as a forged one, then as you say, you are multitudes in front with the supapeg.
The forged peg drives in hard. Not having hit a supapeg myself, it still looks spongy to me. That could be an issue trying to crack that buried rock and may be why it didn't bend??
10 of them... for US$16.70 (and US$1.32 freight)
even with a really bad conversion rate... that's still only AUD$26.11
Note they are 20cm pegs though - still pretty cheap.
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As Juzzman noted above...
10 of them... for US$16.70 (and US$1.32 freight)
even with a really bad conversion rate... that's still only AUD$26.11
If you are after the 20cm ones you can actually get them slightly cheaper on eBay from Aus so should get them quicker https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6pcs-Forged-Steel-Tent-Solid-Stakes-Burly-Heavy-Duty-Tent-Pegs-Outdoor-Camping/263076324869?hash=item3d40922605:m:mdzO_69Ki9DLxeLvGnPYF2w&frcectupt=true (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6pcs-Forged-Steel-Tent-Solid-Stakes-Burly-Heavy-Duty-Tent-Pegs-Outdoor-Camping/263076324869?hash=item3d40922605:m:mdzO_69Ki9DLxeLvGnPYF2w&frcectupt=true)
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As Juzzman noted above...
10 of them... for US$16.70 (and US$1.32 freight)
even with a really bad conversion rate... that's still only AUD$26.11
Those are Chinese produced cast iron as opposed to the Japanese produced forged steel in the Snow Peak pegs. They will be weaker and significantly more brittle.
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Those are Chinese produced cast iron as opposed to the Japanese produced forged steel in the Snow Peak pegs. They will be weaker and significantly more brittle.
They say they are cast iron, but is this just chinglish at play or are they really cast iron? Cast iron is brittle and doesn't handle shock/tension well.
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They say they are cast iron, but is this just chinglish at play or are they really cast iron? Cast iron is brittle and doesn't handle shock/tension well.
You may be right about that. Chinese to English translations can be a bit hit and miss.
Even if they are forged however, I'd be extremely confident they won't be the same quality as the SP ones.