Post by: sharkcaver on November 26, 2016, 10:58:42 PM
http://sharkcaver.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/x-marks-spot-development-of-nx-into.html (http://sharkcaver.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/x-marks-spot-development-of-nx-into.html)
and check out my thread of why it all went tits up:
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=49395.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=49395.0)
So we are now back in business as below:
So,most will be aware of some hiccups in the suspension dept on my trip down the canning.
A week ago, I received some correspondence on how customer service should be handled. Its been a bit of a long saga, but Kudos to Dobinson Spring and Suspension, it looks like we have a winner. So here is what is being done:
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The washers are now our normal style setup which has a 14mm pin, with a 15mm locating washer which slips over the pin to 18.5mm approx od to go in the 19mm hole with our regular syle bushes and washers (never had a problem with these ones previously and these are different to the ones you had on yours).
Issue one, taken note of and now sorted
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The crimp is different. As mentioned, the hydraulic bloke says that the crimp should have held. This is the report he gave us and It should have held a lot more pressure and survived
Upon failure, they took it upon themselves to hire a professional hydraulic engineer to analyse the failure.
So it is evident they are serious about sorting this issue out. Whilst the analysis of the failure is open, all concerned agree it shouldn't have happened. So to cover any unforeseen contingencies, the crimp fitting has been changed to a type that should be even more durable.
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Also mentioned was the fact that our mono’s had high valving because of the independent rear setup. We have since compared to others, and ours were higher so we have also lowered it down slightly. This will also keep them cooler (not that its a problem), and have less pressure build up in the hose.
I have been harping on since my return that although in this first instance we suffered failure, up to that point, the product proved to be superior. And as such, I hold the line that in conjunction with our results and their taking on board our issues, Dobinson is a force to be reckoned with and these MRR's will be kick ass and superior value for money for anyone that gives their vehicle a hard time in remote locations. And if it can handle those rigors, then imagine what they will do if not pushed as hard.
Today, I fitted these new shocks to the Paj:
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And they were so much easier to compress than the last version. I could do these in the field, no worries.
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/sharkcaver/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_4_zpshjcgck17.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/sharkcaver/media/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_4_zpshjcgck17.jpg.html)
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New hoses, new Hydraulic crimp fittings and reduced valving should see that engineering issue taken care of.
The new locating washer should stop the shock from walking and cutting the rubber to bits on the top rubber cup:
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/sharkcaver/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_2_zpsqdozsox9.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/sharkcaver/media/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_2_zpsqdozsox9.jpg.html)
The only issue though was this washer would not fit the existing mounting. The top cup seems to be very tight to remove, but the lower was not. So I removed the lower cup from the shock tower:
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/sharkcaver/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_6_zpsbuwrmu9n.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/sharkcaver/media/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_6_zpsbuwrmu9n.jpg.html)
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/sharkcaver/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_7_zpsuxnexokg.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/sharkcaver/media/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_7_zpsuxnexokg.jpg.html)
Set up the shock to suit and installed them:
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/sharkcaver/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_8_zpskszuxq0z.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/sharkcaver/media/2016%20Dobinsons%20MRR%20review/dobo%20MkII_8_zpskszuxq0z.jpg.html)
Before i struck issues with the old, they were just running so well in the most arduous conditions. To compare, in the worst stretch of dirt, my mate with the same vehicle but different shocks, measured temps at 210 degrees. The Dobinson MRR was running at 105 degrees. So it goes without saying, these shocks were just performing so well that they had to be persevered with. And a big thanks goes to Dobinson for taking the time to listen to our issues, conduct the necessary engineering to sort them out, and to get us back on track. 100% support from a great Aussie company. I look forward to punishing them again, this time with renewed confidence.
Post by: GeoffA on November 27, 2016, 06:14:56 AM
Before i struck issues with the old, they were just running so well in the most arduous conditions. To compare, in the worst stretch of dirt, my mate with the same vehicle but different shocks, measured temps at 210 degrees. The Dobinson MRR was running at 105 degrees. So it goes without saying, these shocks were just performing so well that they had to be persevered with.....
Did your mates shocks fail too? Low temps are nice, but not much use if the shock blows anyway....
.....And a big thanks goes to Dobinson for taking the time to listen to our issues, conduct the necessary engineering to sort them out, and to get us back on track. 100% support from a great Aussie company. I look forward to punishing them again, this time with renewed confidence.
I can understand that you're pleased with the outcome, but using the customers as test pilots doesn't fill me with confidence.
Too many things to go pear-shaped with remote res shocks.
Koni gets my money....simple, and proven.
:cheers:
Post by: Watty2975 on November 27, 2016, 06:23:06 AM
Post by: sharkcaver on November 27, 2016, 12:52:47 PM
Good on you Sharkcaver, for taking the time to work with Dobinsons on the issues and getting a good outcome. I used to know the brothers who ran the family business and they have always been responsive to any problems and keen to make things better.
I started working with one of the brothers directly. I was in QLD in October and I met with him where we had a good discussion about the product and what we can do to make it better, person to person. I was even given a factory tour. I cant believe how much product they make. He was a great guy and just instilled more confidence in me that not only would they fully support their customer, but will take on board all I said to make the product even better. Shame the other 2 vendors I'm dealing with are not as pro-active. Ignore your customers at your peril!
Post by: sharkcaver on November 27, 2016, 01:14:09 PM
Did your mates shocks fail too? Low temps are nice, but not much use if the shock blows anyway....
Yes one of his did so he replaced both. I killed the second one of his because I didn't carry a spare, so I used his un failed one. But you are right, low temps are king, unless you blow a hose on a remote res >:D
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I can understand that you're pleased with the outcome, but using the customers as test pilots doesn't fill me with confidence.
Too many things to go pear-shaped with remote res shocks.
Koni gets my money....simple, and proven.
:cheers:
Well let me just say, try getting any after market component for a Pajero. If it hasn't got a yota or nissan badge, you are severely limited. So whilst on paper, the specs seemed right, only real world testing proves the theory. In the extreme circumstances I tested these in, they failed . But in perspective, so did a lot of others. My mate, with the same vehicle killed his replacements in under 100Km's. At least mine made 800Km (oh and my MRR front struts are still going strong). I heard of at least 5 other bailouts whilst I was on the track due to failed shocks. One of whom paid the cost of a left kidney to travel with the tag along group - the travelling Gypsies. No refund on that.
The way they were working up to failure point proved to me I just have to work with the manufacturer to get this right. The failures aren't rocket science to resolve. Infield testing is the only way to do this. And if I have to be that test pilot for such a small market, then so be it. Pajero owners will be the beneficiaries of that. But these results will also filter through to their other vehicles product, so we all win. Other vehicles have been extensively tested, but the small market Pajero had to rely on the results of those and on paper specs. In most off road circumstances, you would never see this failure. And as proven, if murphy came to visit, at least you can see you have full manufacturer support.
But I do agree, one thing I realised after going the remote res route, was that another potential point of failure is introduced. However, get the engineering right and you will have a superior product.
I am trying not to get into a debate on different brands of shocks. That is not the purpose of this thread. But suffice to say, Koni's also have their issues. As do all of them.
Post by: achjimmy on November 27, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
Sorry I just don't get the vibe with remote res shocks it's like the bp51 there just try to cash in on the latest trend. Cause there trendy to jump dunes in Baja, Doesnt mean they stand up to rock laden tracks As Geoff said Konis , Konis raids have proven themselves repeatedly in that type of environment.
Post by: Dogsbreakfast on November 27, 2016, 04:37:41 PM
Post by: doc evil on November 28, 2016, 07:16:11 AM
Agree with the comments about using the customer as a test bed however, they have come to the party and rectified the issues.
For the record, my Koni 88s have been on the truck since new ('05) and have done almost 340,000km without being touched. Koni 90s will replace them soon (within the next year or so). They have been tortured beyond belief and no need for remote res or fancy gizmos and hype on a 4 tonne truck.
Post by: Paddy16 on November 28, 2016, 07:40:30 AM
Post by: achjimmy on November 28, 2016, 01:31:18 PM
I'll support australian made first. Especially ones that use feedback to strengthen their product.
Are the dobinsons MRR Australian made?
Post by: Bird on November 28, 2016, 01:46:11 PM
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Koni 90s will replace them soon (within the next year or so).
Koni 90s.. touch bigger and better than standard :D
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Post by: noel_w on November 28, 2016, 03:21:37 PM
Post by: sharkcaver on November 28, 2016, 06:28:43 PM
Are the dobinsons MRR Australian made?
They are assembled in Sydney. Where the parts come from????
Post by: Pete79 on November 28, 2016, 08:45:49 PM
They are assembled in Sydney. Where the parts come from????Sydney aye???
I just assumed they would have been made in their Rockhampton factory along with all of their springs.
https://www.dobinsonsprings.com/index.php/home/our-history (https://www.dobinsonsprings.com/index.php/home/our-history)
From my experience they make great suspension kits and they are a great example of local manufacturer who look after their clients.
As you noted in your earlier post sharkcaver, I'm sure there will be a heap of other guys out there that will benefit from your real world testing.
Reading the previous posts it sounds like supporting a local manufacturer is a bad thing.
But I guess if you follow the sheeple logic you did a bad thing buying a vehicle that wasn't a Nissan or Toyota anyway. So I just hope you didn't buy a bullbar that wasn't made by ARB, we'd have no choice to burn you at the stake if that was the case.... ;)
*Edit, just read most of your blog, looks like you're safe from the witch hunt, you have the sacred 3 letters on the front of the Paj. :) ;)
Post by: sharkcaver on November 29, 2016, 01:01:35 AM
Sydney aye???
I just assumed they would have been made in their Rockhampton factory along with all of their springs.
https://www.dobinsonsprings.com/index.php/home/our-history (https://www.dobinsonsprings.com/index.php/home/our-history)
From my experience they make great suspension kits and they are a great example of local manufacturer who look after their clients.
As you noted in your earlier post sharkcaver, I'm sure there will be a heap of other guys out there that will benefit from your real world testing.
Reading the previous posts it sounds like supporting a local manufacturer is a bad thing.
But I guess if you follow the sheeple logic you did a bad thing buying a vehicle that wasn't a Nissan or Toyota anyway. So I just hope you didn't buy a bullbar that wasn't made by ARB, we'd have no choice to burn you at the stake if that was the case.... ;)
*Edit, just read most of your blog, looks like you're safe from the witch hunt, you have the sacred 3 letters on the front of the Paj. :) ;)
Yep, Sydney. I was on Holiday in QLD in October, so I arranged to meet one of the owners whilst I was there. After a factory tour in my Japanese safety boots 8) I can confirm Rocky is primarily the spring (coil and leaf) manufacturing centre. What spun me out was how many springs they make/have in stock. Coming from an engineering background myself, It was an interesting experience. The owner must have "wasted"a good 2 hours on me.
As to your rest: Well I did state to keep things in perspective. The conditions were atrocious, the Dobo's at that time outlasted the sacred 3 letter word brand shocks by a factor of 8 to 1 on the same vehicle, and I heard of 5 others that had to bail whilst I was out there, all due to failed shocks. I can guarantee all 5 weren't dobo's. But hey, if others cant see Dobo looked after me well and took my suggested refinements on board, then so be it.
Now, onto that 3 letter word....If only they gave me the support Dobo did, I'd be a happy man. 4 months to get repairs to a vehicle from a bad design on their part, a blatant no to a redesign to stop it happening again and its beyond them to give me any assurance of support in the future, has made me one mad little boy. Another example of perspective - customer service perspective, and a piss poor one at that. Once the vehicle is repaired, I'm going to town, cause our relationship will have ended - of their choosing.
Post by: achjimmy on November 29, 2016, 03:36:45 AM
So which Aussie company do you support?? The Aussie manufacturer who has decided to cash in in there name and get into all things 4wd and import Stuff (shocks, even tents and winches) from around the world and badge them as their own hoping the masses think it's all Aussie made or the Aussie company in melbourne who has sold , developed and supported an imported product from overseas who have invested time and money sending products to Australia for development and testing for decades? (Toperfornance koni distributors for 30+ years)
Most important thing here is Shane is satisfied.
But let's not spew local Aussie battler manufacturer against imported product rubbish here in defence of them? The reason most people choose not to use koni 90t is because the damn things cost x2 to x4 the price of most other shocks (and that includes me) or people believe the gas/oil is better than oil only marketing
For the record I don't have anything to do with toperformance other than I dealt with them 20 years ago when I was involved in the suspension industry.
Post by: Pete79 on November 29, 2016, 07:22:26 AM
So which Aussie company do you support??
Well honestly, neither of your examples. :)
I agree with you 100% about the ARB sell outs. My personal experience with them has been pretty much the same as sharkcaver's. They couldn't give a crap about their customers and while so many people blindly go out and buy everything because of the brand name nothing will change there.
As for the others.
My vehicle doesn't weigh 4 tonnes and for the moment I can't see us doing too much touring in really extreme conditions, so I can't justify remote res or Koni shocks.
I just take exception to everyone slinging so much crap on some one who gave a local manufacturer a go.
The failure is not the issue, what happened after is what I see as the most important.
Does everyone honestly think Koni never had one failure when they started making a new product? The only difference is they are owned by a massive American corporation with endless dollars to pump into their racing products which obviously trickle down into their products for the general public.
Dobinsons obviously have 1/10000000th of the budget Koni do, so to be competitive in the same market is some achievement in my view. And going on sharkcaver's feedback on their product support I would happily give them my money again when I'm up for another suspension kit.
Post by: achjimmy on November 29, 2016, 07:41:35 AM
Good on Shane for giving them a go no issue, I've followed him for a lot of years and his modifications And developing and trying diff things with the Paj. He Has always offered help and advise and admitted when his gone wrong. This is nothing to do with his choice.
My issue was people defending them as some "Aussie manufacturing battler" where as they are just on selling an imported product like toperformance. Yet less tested. And for thinking that immense online bad publicity that was ranking in SEO had nothing to do with them finally pulling there finger out and helping him.
I hope they get there gear together and it's great , by all accounts their springs are great? further competition and another choice all good. Think I've covered my position in this.
Post by: Pete79 on November 29, 2016, 07:53:12 AM
I don't read any magazines, I don't go on any of the other 'mainstream' 4wd forums and honestly never looked at anything else other then suspension on the Dobinsons website. To me they where only a suspension manufacturer, but happy to be corrected there.
Post by: sharkcaver on November 29, 2016, 10:16:34 AM
Like ARB, they still manufacture here, but not all product lines. Both are worthy of the kudo's they deserve.
In this instance unfortunately, I had to deal with both and one outshone the other. This thread wasn't meant to compare one against the other, nor one brand of shock against the other. But to highlight what I perceived as great customer service. We all hear the bad story stuff all the time. Its refreshing to see a good news story. :cheers:
Post by: Dogsbreakfast on November 29, 2016, 09:13:16 PM
I asked the question cause I sort of knew the answer. Pretty sure nobody in AU makes production automotive shocks except tenneco (Monroe), and for how much longer who knows?
So which Aussie company do you support?? The Aussie manufacturer who has decided to cash in in there name and get into all things 4wd and import Stuff (shocks, even tents and winches) from around the world and badge them as their own hoping the masses think it's all Aussie made or the Aussie company in melbourne who has sold , developed and supported an imported product from overseas who have invested time and money sending products to Australia for development and testing for decades? (Toperfornance koni distributors for 30+ years)
Most important thing here is Shane is satisfied.
But let's not spew local Aussie battler manufacturer against imported product rubbish here in defence of them? The reason most people choose not to use koni 90t is because the damn things cost x2 to x4 the price of most other shocks (and that includes me) or people believe the gas/oil is better than oil only marketing
For the record I don't have anything to do with toperformance other than I dealt with them 20 years ago when I was involved in the suspension industry.
Koni make a great shock, thats for sure. I ran them on my xb coupe and that thing handled miles better than it should have. Totally transformed it.
I wasn't talking up any aussie battler story, but i'm from up rocky way and any business that employs locals is a good thing in my books. They manufacture a good spring though!
Post by: doc evil on November 30, 2016, 07:12:31 AM
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Most important thing here is Shane is satisfied.
(snip)
True however, me personally, I wouldn't have the patience waiting for them to rectify (which in my view shouldn't have happened in the first place) as well as all the toing and froing to have them rectified.
(snip)
The reason most people choose not to use koni 90t is because the damn things cost x2 to x4 the price of most other shocks
(snip)
yet you get more than 4 times the life out of them................false economy there. Same goes for almost all vehicular consumables..............
just as an aside, I wonder how much of the el cheapo Kings/tigerz11 stuff has been thrown as land fill and the throwee bought a more expensive replacement. Would be interesting statistics if available.
Post by: oldmate on November 30, 2016, 07:46:47 AM
just as an aside, I wonder how much of the el cheapo Kings/tigerz11 stuff has been thrown as land fill and the throwee bought a more expensive replacement. Would be interesting statistics if available.
I'd reckon easy 70%
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Post by: Bird on November 30, 2016, 08:16:34 AM
True however, me personally, I wouldn't have the patience waiting for them to rectify (which in my view shouldn't have happened in the first place) as well as all the toing and froing to have them rectified.yep..
yet you get more than 4 times the life out of them................false economy there. Same goes for almost all vehicular consumables..............
just as an aside, I wonder how much of the el cheapo Kings/tigerz11 stuff has been thrown as land fill and the throwee bought a more expensive replacement. Would be interesting statistics if available.
poor people cant afford cheap things.
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on November 30, 2016, 10:19:18 AM
yep..
poor people cant afford cheap things.
I think that should be, "Poor people can't afford to buy anything but cheap things. They don't get the life out of them, and have to buy the same thing way more often.
And that's what keeps them poor."
Post by: Isuzumu on November 30, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
Post by: Bird on November 30, 2016, 10:45:59 AM
I think that should be, "Poor people can't afford to buy anything but cheap things. They don't get the life out of them, and have to buy the same thing way more often.that's exactly what it says :)
And that's what keeps them poor."
Post by: rsser on March 01, 2017, 07:04:08 AM
Deleted. Could appear to be a rant or critical of a true-blue Aussie company.
Post by: KingBilly on March 01, 2017, 10:06:22 AM
KB
Post by: rsser on March 01, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
Post by: duggie on March 01, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
I have given these thing a flogging ( there are members that know how hard I drive ) and without any kind of fade or failure.
(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii547/dug59/012_1.jpg) (http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/dug59/media/012_1.jpg.html)
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Post by: sharkcaver on March 01, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
MKII are travelling ok here but they haven't been punished like they did on the CSR. I plan to do that soon on "milestone 50" - a solo trek from Perth to Adelaide return via the Anne Beadell there and roads less travelled on the return. A 17 day adventure marking both mine and a mates 50th birthdays - a mate I haven't seen in over 25 years. Will post the result when completed. If I dont blow 3 like a fella did to his BP51's fitted to a 79 series last season on the AB, I will be a happy man. And I have the confidence they wont.
Post by: achjimmy on March 02, 2017, 07:38:27 AM
Post by: sharkcaver on December 28, 2018, 09:58:30 PM
However, I have put an edit on my blog entry explaining things that are coming.
Scroll to the end of the post if you want a preview of things to come.
https://sharkcaver.blogspot.com/2016/06/keeping-your-cool-dobinsons-monotube.html
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on December 29, 2018, 02:25:33 PM
Post by: sharkcaver on December 29, 2018, 05:16:05 PM
Post by: Troopy greg on December 29, 2018, 08:09:44 PM
Post by: sharkcaver on December 29, 2018, 08:17:32 PM
rear: corrugated boot melted. A pain to remove the melted goo, but again not a biggie. They now come with a hard slip tube to avoid this problem.
So to be honest, I've never really had an issue with them. I know of some that have, but me personally, they have worked. My first MRR failure was on the CSR. My mate with me ran Billies no issue on that trip (after his rear MRR's failed getting to the CSR and his new OME failed 50KM's in).
On top of all that, I don't really have any other solution to my knowledge. I was hoping these would be the goods. It appears not.
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on December 29, 2018, 08:49:52 PM
Post by: Troopy greg on December 29, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
Post by: sharkcaver on December 30, 2018, 02:10:33 PM
Driving to work a couple of days back after I swapped the rear over to Lovells and put the rebushed MRR's back in, I had knocking from the back. It appears the failed bushes were not the culprit as I thought (although they were fubar), the shocks themselves are shot. So yesterday I swapped those MRR's out with the backup OME nitrocharger units I have been using in the interim. Knock gone - therefore so are the MRR rears.
I decided to keep the billie rears as a new spare until I screw the OME units. I got the OME units in Newman after bailing out on the CSR due to the initial hose failure of the MRR's. It's all I could get - and they were personally delivered by the state sales manager from Tom Price, who just happened to be there the day before I hit Newman. Newman had no stock.
In fairness, I have no axe to grind with Dobinson. As an Aussie manufacturing business, we should all try to support that. I gave them a fair shot and it hasn't worked for me. Mind you, as you mention Greg, I do use my Paj more than most ever would. I'm even having thoughts as to whether a vehicle change is required. Am I putting the Paj beyond what it was ever designed for?
So the dilemma I have is: continue on with a product that is shot and has given me a few headaches or cut the losses and try something else. I chose the latter this time around. Only time will tell if that was the right decision or not.
It becomes an expensive game.
Post by: Coolblue80 on December 30, 2018, 02:14:37 PM
Cheers, Mike.
Post by: sharkcaver on December 30, 2018, 02:35:11 PM
That's a shame about the MRR gear. I put it in my NX partly because of your glowing praise for them. I'm absolutely loving mine at the moment. Love the ride and comfort. Mine will never see the action yours does so I'm not expecting any dramas.
Cheers, Mike.
That's my biggest concern Mike. I mentioned to them in my last unresponded to email that I have sullied my name because I stood steadfast for the product and I know quite a few have taken my word and fitted likewise. Now I sit on a time bomb waiting for my reputation to be shattered. Dobinson lives on whilst I tread on egg shells.
With any luck, my issues are just down to the newness of product development and later builds live up to the reputation I spruiked. In regards to temperature control, I have proven they are superior to other monotubes. They just need to get their componentry quality issues sorted (if not already done).
So if you have future issues Mike, all I can do is apologise and go into damage control.
In my case, Dobbo have got off lightly. Just imagine if it wasn't me supplying all the labour. I've spent some hours under that car now.
I'm dreading the phone call should it ever eventuate re the unresponded email of mid November. It's going to end in tears.
Post by: KingBilly on December 30, 2018, 04:57:05 PM
Now I sit on a time bomb waiting for my reputation to be shattered.
C’mon bloke, you never had a reputation to shatter, you drive a Mitsubishi ;D ;D ;D
KB
Post by: sharkcaver on December 30, 2018, 05:22:47 PM
C’mon bloke, you never had a reputation to shatter, you drive a Mitsubishi ;D ;D ;D
KB
PMSL :cheers:
Post by: Coolblue80 on December 30, 2018, 07:46:21 PM
That's my biggest concern Mike. I mentioned to them in my last unresponded to email that I have sullied my name because I stood steadfast for the product and I know quite a few have taken my word and fitted likewise. Now I sit on a time bomb waiting for my reputation to be shattered. Dobinson lives on whilst I tread on egg shells.I wouldn't stress too much mate. I made an educated decision and went with what I thought was right for me. If it goes pear shaped there's nobody to blame but me.
With any luck, my issues are just down to the newness of product development and later builds live up to the reputation I spruiked. In regards to temperature control, I have proven they are superior to other monotubes. They just need to get their componentry quality issues sorted (if not already done).
So if you have future issues Mike, all I can do is apologise and go into damage control.
In my case, Dobbo have got off lightly. Just imagine if it wasn't me supplying all the labour. I've spent some hours under that car now.
I'm dreading the phone call should it ever eventuate re the unresponded email of mid November. It's going to end in tears.
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on December 30, 2018, 10:04:33 PM
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Post by: Craig Tomkinson on December 31, 2018, 05:52:38 AM