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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #125 on: February 04, 2016, 03:21:06 PM »
Can you imagine what your Dad would have said if you had spent the cost of a new car on a bike? My Dad would have had a stroke.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #126 on: February 04, 2016, 03:22:58 PM »
I used to dream of having tyres or rims.
When i say bike, it wasnt really a bike.
It was 2 old cans wired to a stick.
But to us it was a bike.



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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #127 on: February 04, 2016, 03:32:15 PM »
There wasn't a weekend passed that my ankles weren't bleeding from cotter pin knocks. I don't miss those bastard things. Me and my sister used to have to do battle with the cane trucks on the highway to get to the bus stop for school every day.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #128 on: February 04, 2016, 03:53:32 PM »
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #129 on: February 04, 2016, 04:02:10 PM »
I used to dream of having a seat....

You got used to just the seat tube eh ??   ;D :o :o
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #130 on: February 04, 2016, 04:13:32 PM »
You got used to just the seat tube eh ??   ;D :o :o

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NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #131 on: February 04, 2016, 04:13:42 PM »
Lol you were rich if you had a stem post that wasn't rusted, and who remembers the old flip over dynamo that powered the tail and head light. Faster you pedalled, the brighter the light til you blew the globe. No fuses and definitely dodgy wiring in those days
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #132 on: February 04, 2016, 04:46:15 PM »
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/sydney-cyclists-protest-new-laws-requiring-them-to-carry-id/7123360

Seriously, these idiots have no idea.

The law says you need to remove your motorcycle helmet to enter a Bank Or a Servo, so you remove it.
The law says you need to keep at the speed limit or below, you travel at the posted speed limit.
The law says that you must not have an open container of alcohol and be over .05, so you don't drink and drive.
The law say that you must wear a seat belt, so you wear a seat belt.
Get the picture ???

The law say you must obey these new rules, you obey the rules.
If the law says you need to carry ID, oh hang on, I'm a bike rider, I don't have to.
Well you are breaking the law, you will be fined, carry ID and life is good.
Stop being a tool.
Simple, Now that's not hard is it.  :D
Ok, maybe for some.

End of story.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #133 on: February 04, 2016, 04:50:02 PM »

I remember taking the skin off my ankles on the pedal crank because my wet rubber thong slipped  :D

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #134 on: February 04, 2016, 04:52:12 PM »

Can you imagine what your Dad would have said if you had spent the cost of a new car on a bike? My Dad would have had a stroke.

Yeah people today spend money on a bike that would of got them a new gtho in the day
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2016, 04:58:10 PM »

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/sydney-cyclists-protest-new-laws-requiring-them-to-carry-id/7123360

Seriously, these idiots have no idea.

The law says you need to remove your motorcycle helmet to enter a Bank Or a Servo, so you remove it.
The law says you need to keep at the speed limit or below, you travel at the posted speed limit.
The law says that you must not have an open container of alcohol and be over .05, so you don't drink and drive.
The law say that you must wear a seat belt, so you wear a seat belt.
Get the picture ???

The law say you must obey these new rules, you obey the rules.
If the law says you need to carry ID, oh hang on, I'm a bike rider, I don't have to.
Well you are breaking the law, you will be fined, carry ID and life is good.
Stop being a tool.
Simple, Now that's not hard is it.  :D
Ok, maybe for some.

End of story.

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Your right though, how hard is it to just carry your id?  I know in my area they must all carry their credit card or cash so they can stop mid ride for 3 latte's with 20 bikes scattered against every other shopfront. So can't be hard to just throw some id in aswell.
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2016, 05:04:14 PM »

Your right though, how hard is it to just carry your id?  I know in my area they must all carry their credit card or cash so they can stop mid ride for 3 latte's with 20 bikes scattered against every other shopfront. So can't be hard to just throw some id in aswell.
c'mon be fair. Credit cards aren't as big as these ID's?

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2016, 05:11:32 PM »
c'mon be fair. Credit cards aren't as big as these ID's?
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2016, 05:12:21 PM »
Ahh sorry. Didn't realize how big a bike Id is. I can understand the issue now.
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #139 on: February 04, 2016, 05:13:58 PM »
Your right though, how hard is it to just carry your id?  I know in my area they must all carry their credit card or cash so they can stop mid ride for 3 latte's with 20 bikes scattered against every other shopfront. So can't be hard to just throw some id in aswell.
With bikes everywhere on the foot path so those going to the bakery next door have to weave and step around bikes.
They congregate at the coffee shop's outside tables talking just as loud as they were on the open road, 6.30am in the morning. overcast and wearing their sunnies, heads bobbing they look like blow flies on a dog turd.

They have a different mind set to the average person.



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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #140 on: February 04, 2016, 05:19:22 PM »
Whats wrong with the dimwits having one of these? 
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #141 on: February 04, 2016, 05:31:33 PM »
Doh, I'm a cyclist, i'm not bright enough to carry ID, it might slow me down, cut or bruise me in a fall........  :'(

But, I can carry money, to pay for the Lycra Latte I have at the coffee shop.... go figure.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #142 on: February 04, 2016, 06:00:24 PM »
I understand the cyclists dilemma.
Where do you keep your ID?



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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #143 on: February 04, 2016, 06:08:08 PM »
Doh, I'm a cyclist, i'm not bright enough to carry ID, it might slow me down, cut or bruise me in a fall........  :'(

But, I can carry money, to pay for the Lycra Latte I have at the coffee shop.... go figure.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #144 on: February 04, 2016, 06:28:39 PM »
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #145 on: February 04, 2016, 08:23:16 PM »
Yeah, it's not a big imposition to carry ID most of the time, but... This is also the thin end of the wedge to having to carry ID wh n you go for a walk, or a swim at the beach. It is only seen a necessary for the Stereotyped Lycra lout flouting the rules. I shouldn't need ID to cruise down the local path with my kids, what harm am I going to do there? I shouldn't need to carry ID to pop over to a mates place and give him a hand to load the camper, and I certainly shouldn't need it to ride down to the amenities block from my campsite or down the block to the beach on my summer holiday.

Having to carry, or even hold, a licence doesn't stop the idiots on the roads, just watch a few episodes of highway patrol or rbt and you can see that if a driver doesn't want to give the police ID they don't, they get taken to the station and it goes from there, fine or not. Same for cyclists.

 It's the incidental cycling it will hurt, not the stereotyped louts. We should be encouraging incidental bike use to help alleviate motor traffic. Make it easier to get to the local bowlo for a meal, down to the post office to pick up a little parcel that the courier didn't bother to get out of his van for, easier to follow the kids to school on a bike and a hundred other examples.

The other thing that should change is to allow cycling on the footpath. Helps those less confident to ride on the roads. I can't 'get out of the way' on the roads if I can't ride on the footpath, even if I want to - I don't want a fine and I don't want to be hit by an impatient motorist who can't wait a few seconds to give me some space on the roads and pass safely. While we are doing that we should be rolling back the helmet laws on pathways and residential streets, like the 50zones I haven't fallen off a bike in years except for high risk stuff like riding fast or in the scrub on MTB, there are millions of kms ridden by responsible adults around the world without a stack causing a head injury.
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #146 on: February 04, 2016, 08:56:08 PM »
I shouldn't have to wear my seatbelt if I'm just going down to the local shops either !!  See how you can't have "flexible" rules...unfortunately rules have got to be rules !
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #147 on: February 04, 2016, 09:05:55 PM »
Whats wrong with the dimwits having one of these? 
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #148 on: February 04, 2016, 09:22:12 PM »
I shouldn't have to wear my seatbelt if I'm just going down to the local shops either !!  See how you can't have "flexible" rules...unfortunately rules have got to be rules !
But not carrying ID isn't going to put you in hospital if you get hit by another car is it? I don't want a flexible rule, I don't believe that carrying ID will do anything to improve safety for cyclists which is supposedly what these changes are about. I'm all for changes to the rules that will improve safety. My opinion is that more bikes out there will improve safety, no- not the racers, the everyday joes.

If they want to do something positive throw more money at driver and road user training. Put it in schools, make it harder than just performing a reverse park to get a licence, retest licence holders for the rules every few years. Get kids to ride to school and learn the rules. These are things that will improve road safety, not asking a cyclist to carry an official photo of themselves.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2016, 09:25:30 PM »
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