Post by: Bird on December 15, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Then I read it and the first paragraph hit the nail on the head of our xmas party the last 3-4yrs. Our snooze fest is preceded by an email from HR that kills any chance of enjoyment, fun, letting hair down, or want to go to the party :-[ :'( :'( :'( :-[
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A friend is imploring his employer to ditch this year's Christmas party. Not because he hates the joint or his colleagues, but because the party has become so politically correct it feels like another boring work function.
The party used to start early on Thursday evening and extend well into the night. The company paid for everything. There was an unwritten rule that staff came to work a little later on Friday and left earlier. There was always some gossip and plenty of fun (those crazy accountants!).
For the past few years, his firm's party has been at lunchtime on Wednesday. Staff pay for their drinks. Most return to work by mid-afternoon, for appearances. Conversation is stilted. The biggest scandal is someone ordering a light beer.
Worse, staff receive multiple emails from the HR department in the lead-up to the party, reminding them of their responsibilities and the firm's expectations. The party starts to resemble a wake, where staff mourn the death of workplace fun.
"It's excruciating," my friend complained. "Christmas parties used to be great. Ours has become so dull that it's not worth going to." Fewer staff are attending each year because they are supposedly "snowed with work", he says.
I understand companies putting the clamps on Christmas parties. There's too much reputational, legal and financial risk from drunken staff who forget the party is at a workplace and that usual occupational health and safety rules, and company expectations, apply. No employee should face or tolerate inappropriate behaviour at their firm's party.
That said, being too risk averse about Christmas parties defeats their purpose. A good party rewards staff for hard work, celebrates success and motivates people. It brings employees together in one room, some of whom rarely meet face-to-face.
In some ways, a good Christmas party has never been so important. As more staff communicate online, hot-desk, work remotely or are buried in mobile devices all day, the chance to get together in person – even if just once a year at the Christmas party – is valuable.
Also, as companies restrain wages growth and expect staff to work longer for the same or less pay, a Christmas party is one way to reward staff without pay rises. Done well, it is a useful contributor to office morale and organisation culture.
A bad party can do harm. I recall an employer who decided employees should pay for their meal, after the firm made record profits that year. Staff complained.
Holding the party at lunchtime and expecting staff to return to work soon afterwards is equally annoying. The flexibility to take a few hours off work during or after the party, within reason, was a way to thank employees for their efforts. Now, staff feel a shortened Christmas party is a yet another way for employers to squeeze them.
Perhaps the biggest loss is not being able to talk to your boss, their boss or a manager of another department in an informal setting. There's nothing worse than being stuck at a boring table and making awkward small-talk with colleagues over lunch. So much for the benefits of company networking at the Christmas party.
Again, I won't downplay the risks of poorly organised Christmas parties. Companies that provide too much alcohol, for too long, and do not monitor behaviour at the event or consider how staff will get home, must share the blame if things go wrong.
The protection and welfare of every staff member at Christmas parties must be paramount in the event's planning. One person being harassed by an alcohol-fuelled moron is one too many and ample evidence why companies should limit their party.
But there's always a risk that companies go too far and become a "nanny state". They forget that 99 per cent of staff do the right thing, treat each other with respect and know which boundaries cannot be crossed at the Christmas party. And that the other 1 per cent can be managed in the lead-up to the event or monitored during it.
With good corporate communication before the party, staff can understand the risks, adapt their behaviour if needed, monitor their colleagues and take early action at the first sign of problems. And still have some workplace fun.
http://www.theleader.com.au/story/5049656/is-it-time-to-kill-the-office-christmas-party/?cs=2011 (http://www.theleader.com.au/story/5049656/is-it-time-to-kill-the-office-christmas-party/?cs=2011)
Post by: Pottsy on December 15, 2017, 03:28:18 PM
Great article in a nameless online 4wd magazine where a bloke proffered Good morning ladies to a group of women only to be challenged as to how dare he presume they were ladies, he responded after her tirade, Good Morning Dragons! Lol!
Post by: Rumpig on December 15, 2017, 03:37:46 PM
When I saw the title I thought ****in kill me. >:(our Xmas party was last Friday night at The German Club....dinner paid for (whatever we wanted) and I drank Bundy all night long, aswell as the builder i work for bought us all funny looking German hats at the bar aswell. When the plumbers apprentice got us kicked out of there for being drunk after he knocked a glass over, we headed to The Storey Bridge Hotel where more Bundy was bought for me, eventually we got kicked out at 2 a.m as it was closing time....not a bad night out. You can have your office job mate :cheers:
Then I read it and the first paragraph hit the nail on the head of our xmas party the last 3-4yrs. Our snooze fest is preceded by an email from HR that kills any chance of enjoyment, fun, letting hair down, or want to go to the party :-[ :'( :'( :'( :-[
Post by: Foo on December 15, 2017, 04:54:57 PM
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Post by: rags on December 15, 2017, 07:55:56 PM
our Xmas party was last Friday night at The German Club....dinner paid for (whatever we wanted) and I drank Bundy all night long, aswell as the builder i work for bought us all funny looking German hats at the bar aswell. When the plumbers apprentice got us kicked out of there for being drunk after he knocked a glass over, we headed to The Storey Bridge Hotel where more Bundy was bought for me, eventually we got kicked out at 2 a.m as it was closing time....not a bad night out. You can have your office job mate :cheers:
How insensitive is your employer, fancy taking staff to of all places the German Club. Surely you could have gone to the a race neutral venue.😝
Post by: speewa158 on December 15, 2017, 08:05:02 PM
Last time l held such an event it turned to 5H1t .
The field staff turned up early & ate the food , drank the grog & abused the management .
This is what l have to put up with as a Sole Trader . Drink the can , eat the 1/2 sandwich & talk to yourself .
What can l tell you >:D :cheers:
Post by: Rumpig on December 15, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
How insensitive is your employer, fancy taking staff to of all places the German Club. Surely you could have gone to the a race neutral venue.😝i think he chose there for the 1kg pork knuckles...talk about a bucket load of crackle they were.
Post by: ScarpsD40 on December 15, 2017, 08:43:58 PM
l WONT hold another X MAs/EndOyear Party , EVER ,,,,,,,,,you should have let me know🤔 I could have brought some of the boys over for a few 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺. We know the rule, knock with our elbows. Would it be ok if we bring a bit of home brew😉
Last time l held such an event it turned to 5H1t .
The field staff turned up early & ate the food , drank the grog & abused the management .
This is what l have to put up with as a Sole Trader . Drink the can , eat the 1/2 sandwich & talk to yourself .
What can l tell you >:D :cheers:
Post by: edz on December 15, 2017, 09:43:56 PM
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2017, 12:12:07 PM
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What friggin company would put a Christmas/end of year party on a forking week day, dipchits?? ::) :o :PK&S freighters did when I worked at Auburn depot around 94/5...
Foo
to add to it, the "Party" started at the yard at 2pm on the Thursday, 8 pizza's, 2 slabs of light beer which were all gone by the time the drivers arrived back at the yard at end of day... The forklift drivers weren't happy either LOL
Post by: Rumpig on December 16, 2017, 08:33:34 PM
Post by: Pete79 on December 17, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
You would have hated todays Xmas party Bird....the scaffolders we use took us to the races in a corporate suite they paid for, more food then you could poke a stick at (seriously, 30 guys there who ate heaps and so much left over including a whole tray of prawns) , and all the beer you could drink.....just wish I could have picked atleast one winner today, had a shocker :'(I wanna work with you mate.
Your gig comes with Christmas parties every weekend for the whole month of December by the sounds of it.... ;) ;D
We had our work do last night. No complaints from me.
All interstate staff get flown down to Sydney and put up for the night (last night was the Marriott and the year before was at the Sir Stamford).
We usually get a bar somewhere in the city with a section set aside for us. Food and a selection of free drinks get delivered all night, there was a couple of nice pale ales on the list last night. :)
Last night the tab got cut off just before midnight and interestingly all the tradies bailed as soon as the freebies stopped.
But they jumped the gun too soon as usual. Our financial controller was just getting warmed up and put on a few rounds of shots and some fancy cocktails just after the big softies toddled off to bed... ;)
Then the stayers made our way to the next bar, then the next bar and finally staggered back to the hotel when the lockout laws said it was time to go.
Was a great night and the only thing I paid for was a couple of beers at the bar in the hotel before we went over the the venue for the night.
Post by: Rumpig on December 17, 2017, 04:56:19 PM
I wanna work with you mate.nah, just the 2 parties for me this year, both were good gigs though....used to attend a few others where i used to work, but such is life. Sounds like your shindig was a good outing also, where my misses works is polar opposite to these types of Xmas parties, so i do appreciate it when someone forks out the coin it costs to throw a decent Xmas party.
Your gig comes with Christmas parties every weekend for the whole month of December by the sounds of it.... ;) ;D
We had our work do last night. No complaints from me.
All interstate staff get flown down to Sydney and put up for the night (last night was the Marriott and the year before was at the Sir Stamford).
We usually get a bar somewhere in the city with a section set aside for us. Food and a selection of free drinks get delivered all night, there was a couple of nice pale ales on the list last night. :)
Last night the tab got cut off just before midnight and interestingly all the tradies bailed as soon as the freebies stopped.
But they jumped the gun too soon as usual. Our financial controller was just getting warmed up and put on a few rounds of shots and some fancy cocktails just after the big softies toddled off to bed... ;)
Then the stayers made our way to the next bar, then the next bar and finally staggered back to the hotel when the lockout laws said it was time to go.
Was a great night and the only thing I paid for was a couple of beers at the bar in the hotel before we went over the the venue for the night.
Post by: Liege on December 17, 2017, 06:26:54 PM
the stories that do the rounds every year are the same stupid guys being dicks, trying to start fights and harrassing their female colleagues. Everyone pays their own way and work has nothing to do with the organisation or finances.
I always say to the guys that i get along with, if they want to go to the pub and have a beer, no worries. But no way am i going to waste a night of my life with these people, if I don't have to.
Post by: rotare on December 18, 2017, 09:06:00 AM
As a business we're constantly advised by legal boffins that we have a duty of care to ensure employees don't harm themselves - whether this is at work or at a function organised by the company, like a Xmas party. It's not enough to just assume that mature adults will be responsible when drinking without politely reminding them. It's not enough just to verbally remind them once, and to show due diligence we're advised that we need in writing to articulate the expected behaviours leading up to an event. But provide alcohol to staff, and you need to ensure they get home safely. It's not enough anymore just to assume people won't drink and drive, so we provide cab charges for people to get home safely. Provide cab charges to 100+ people and you can imagine it's start getting expensive.
Factor in the cost of putting on a Xmas party for employees and their partners, the legal implications and obligations of the company, then the 10% of staff who complain about the venue, the food, the entertainment, the location, the timing or the fact that they have to pay for a taxi to get to the place if they want to drink...... It all starts just getting too hard, and it's no surprise that the traditional Xmas parties for many companies have gone the path they have.
Post by: GBC on December 18, 2017, 10:30:09 AM
You would have hated todays Xmas party Bird....the scaffolders we use took us to the races in a corporate suite they paid for, more food then you could poke a stick at (seriously, 30 guys there who ate heaps and so much left over including a whole tray of prawns) , and all the beer you could drink.....just wish I could have picked atleast one winner today, had a shocker :'(
Hang on a minute, our xmas do was at Silks marquee at Albion Park on Saturday night.......
Another building company - Seafood buffet, drink what you want, say what you want, do what you want. The ladies were doing Jaeger bombs between the wines - we got out before it all went to sh!t.
Where were you at?
Post by: GBC on December 18, 2017, 10:35:50 AM
As a member of the executive management team of a mid sized business, I reckon it's no surprise things have gone they way they have - but don't necessarily think it's been proactively driven by senior management! First thing that comes to mind when reading this thread is "it's all fun while nobody gets hurt...."
As a business we're constantly advised by legal boffins that we have a duty of care to ensure employees don't harm themselves - whether this is at work or at a function organised by the company, like a Xmas party. It's not enough to just assume that mature adults will be responsible when drinking without politely reminding them. It's not enough just to verbally remind them once, and to show due diligence we're advised that we need in writing to articulate the expected behaviours leading up to an event. But provide alcohol to staff, and you need to ensure they get home safely. It's not enough anymore just to assume people won't drink and drive, so we provide cab charges for people to get home safely. Provide cab charges to 100+ people and you can imagine it's start getting expensive.
Factor in the cost of putting on a Xmas party for employees and their partners, the legal implications and obligations of the company, then the 10% of staff who complain about the venue, the food, the entertainment, the location, the timing or the fact that they have to pay for a taxi to get to the place if they want to drink...... It all starts just getting too hard, and it's no surprise that the traditional Xmas parties for many companies have gone the path they have.
We are a mid tier building company. You should see the look on the WHS consultant's faces when they show up to deliver the compulsory training 3 times a year at 3.30 on a Wednesday and we are all drinking beer. Nobody would go otherwise haha. Yes, we get told the same thing - doesn't mean we can't make our own decisions though. The fridge in the office is always stacked and if we have to stay back on a Friday to finish a tender or get on top of a project we are expected to make use of it.
Post by: Spada on December 18, 2017, 10:46:21 AM
I wouldn't dream of giving up my family time to spend with them. Also if I did have a few sherbets, there is a genuine risk of the thoughts in my head overflowing out of my mouth ;D
But thats my choice...........nothing to do with the rules of the office party as such.
Post by: Rumpig on December 18, 2017, 12:53:07 PM
Hang on a minute, our xmas do was at Silks marquee at Albion Park on Saturday night.......it was during the day at Doomben, horse races not harness racing
Another building company - Seafood buffet, drink what you want, say what you want, do what you want. The ladies were doing Jaeger bombs between the wines - we got out before it all went to sh!t.
Where were you at?
Post by: GBC on December 18, 2017, 02:31:49 PM
it was during the day at Doomben, horse races not harness racingNice one - I spent half my night explaining how pacers can trot so fast :'(
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2017, 10:28:03 AM
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IN SEPTEMBER 1914, an Australian submarine with 35 crew members vanished without a trace.
Now 103 years later, the AE1 submarine has been found off the coast of PNG following a search effort which began only days ago.
Since vanishing at the outbreak of World War I, solving the mystery of the 50m long vessel has been a topic of interest for treasure hunters, the Royal Australian Navy and even French adventurer Jacques Cousteau.
The successful find of the vessel came after a $1 million expedition captured images of the intact submarine on the sea floor south east of the Duke of York Islands, 300m below the surface.
Using a state-of-the-art gas exploration vessel — the same one used to hunt the lost MH370 flight — researchers were able to confirm the discovery the HMAS AE1.
As the upper conning tower hatch was still shut, researchers believe the incident was the result of a catastrophic diving accident.
Defence Minister Marise Payne said there would be no attempt to retrieve the vessel, with the site to be considered a war grave.
“Following the discovery of the submarine, a small commemorative service was conducted by those on-board the survey vessel to remember those officers and sailors who lost their lives 103 years ago,” Senator Payne said today.
“Efforts are being made to contact the descendants of the crew.
“The current search was jointly funded by the Australian Government, the Silentworld Foundation, the Australian National Maritime Museum and Find AE1 Ltd; using Fugro Survey’s vessel and search technology. Its success is due to the efforts of these teams.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/long-lost-australian-submarine-found-after-being-missing-for-103-years/news-story/c2ed0bdd8cdb30cb31cf0367412bf211 (http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/long-lost-australian-submarine-found-after-being-missing-for-103-years/news-story/c2ed0bdd8cdb30cb31cf0367412bf211)
Post by: rossm on December 21, 2017, 11:02:54 AM
In my first job at a newspaper in Bunbury in WA in the early 70s workplace parties weren't really a thing but on Christmas Eve the management would put on a 10-gallon keg.
The printers would work at finishing up by about 4.30, the keg would be tapped in the factory, everybody could have a couple of drinks and head wherever after about an hour. All very civilised.
One year a beancounter decided that a five-gallon keg would suffice.
The printers were enraged. The emptied it in about 10 minutes and the front office staff, who had been at the pub, wandered back to find the party was over.
We had a bigger keg next year.
Post by: edz on December 21, 2017, 11:19:58 AM
http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae1 (http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae1) for more information on the AE-1 and http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae2 (http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae2) for AE-2 ..
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2017, 11:26:49 AM
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http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae1 (http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae1) for more information on the AE-1 and http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae2 (http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-ae2) for AE-2 ..one of the forum members was involved in the mapping of it :)
Post by: chester ver2.0 on December 21, 2017, 12:38:16 PM
I work with some of the stupidest men I have ever met. I'm a machine operator in open cut mining, I haven't been to a single xmas party in the 8 years I have been there.
the stories that do the rounds every year are the same stupid guys being dicks, trying to start fights and harrassing their female colleagues. Everyone pays their own way and work has nothing to do with the organisation or finances.
I always say to the guys that i get along with, if they want to go to the pub and have a beer, no worries. But no way am i going to waste a night of my life with these people, if I don't have to.
Mate used to work in mining myself and they are definitely paid from the neck down
And then wondered after the downturn why no one else would hire them
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2018, 02:50:38 PM
http://www.theland.com.au/story/5171664/can-we-keep-our-country-shows-alive/?cs=4963 (http://www.theland.com.au/story/5171664/can-we-keep-our-country-shows-alive/?cs=4963)
personally I love these shows... events like the wood chopping, chainsaw and animal judging..
Post by: Pottsy on January 18, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Sadly it is no longer :'( :'(
Post by: Beachman on January 18, 2018, 04:15:48 PM
In saying that I’m probably part of the reason for these changes because when I started working 32 years ago the parties were basically a drinking/snogging fest. The company I worked for back then had about 500 employees in Brisbane with 75% of them under age 25. Always kicked off at 4pm Friday with copious amounts of beer/wine/spirits and at end of the night there were people passed out under tables, every dark corner had people hooking up, couple of girls flashing there tar tars and no one dared drive Saturday because everyone would have been over the limit.
Post by: Pottsy on January 18, 2018, 04:22:26 PM
Pissed, passed out, hooking up, and flashing ya tits but sensible enough not to drive, ha,ha! :cup:
Post by: Swannie on January 18, 2018, 04:59:27 PM
Swannie
Post by: xcvator on January 18, 2018, 06:06:24 PM
Our staff are allocated $50 for an Xmas function per staff member. But I attended 5 Work functions this year across the country this year and the only reason I got invited was they knew I always pay for the lot... apparently I have a big please explain awaiting my return to work 😂 as the exec are not happy...You coming away with us on the long week end ? please, please, this will be a work function, we'll work on getting you to pay >:D >:D ;D
Swannie
Post by: DrewXT on January 18, 2018, 09:09:40 PM
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Post by: Swannie on January 18, 2018, 10:12:39 PM
Must be time for you, me and Bird to have lunchYep
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Post by: Swannie on January 18, 2018, 10:14:27 PM
You coming away with us on the long week end ? please, please, this will be a work function, we'll work on getting you to pay >:D >:D ;D
Nope
Post by: Bird on January 22, 2018, 07:09:39 PM
Our staff are allocated $50 for an Xmas function per staff member. But I attended 5 Work functions this year across the country this year and the only reason I got invited was they knew I always pay for the lot... apparently I have a big please explain awaiting my return to work 😂 as the exec are not happy...so did ya get yelled at ???
Swannie
Post by: Swannie on January 23, 2018, 08:54:13 AM
so did ya get yelled at ???
Still on leave mate eating into some of the 30wks I got up my sleeve 😂
Post by: Bird on January 23, 2018, 08:56:44 AM
Still on leave mate eating into some of the 30wks I got up my sleeve 😂Damn!! thats some holiday!
Post by: xcvator on January 23, 2018, 09:11:32 AM
Still on leave mate eating into some of the 30wks I got up my sleeve 😂Clever, by the time you get back they will have forgotten about it :cup: :cup:
Post by: Fizzie on January 23, 2018, 09:25:25 AM
Still on leave mate eating into some of the 30wks I got up my sleeve 😂
Take it at half pay & you can fit in another round next Chrissie, before they can catch you! >:D
Post by: Gandalf the White on January 23, 2018, 09:54:05 AM
Our staff are allocated $50 for an Xmas function per staff member. But I attended 5 Work functions this year across the country this year and the only reason I got invited was they knew I always pay for the lot... apparently I have a big please explain awaiting my return to work 😂 as the exec are not happy...The only way this would ever hit the attention of your boss would be because someone in the accounts department with nothing better to do has realised there could be a double dip and it’s going to impact the exec getting maximum bonus😏🤔
Swannie
Post by: Pottsy on January 23, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
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Post by: Swannie on January 23, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Hey Swannie, were you a soft touch or the senior man, company I worked for it was always the responsibility of the senior man or woman at the function to pay, no ifs, no buts, left the accountants no room to complain. :cheers: :cheers:
Just a soft touch mate😂
Post by: Apples69 on January 23, 2018, 05:19:04 PM
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Post by: Kangaron on January 23, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
Snags & bread [no butter, hamburgers or even a chop].
Salads, that the QC's had knocked out the day before.
and out of code soft drinks, at room temperature.
and I kid you not.
Post by: Bird on January 23, 2018, 08:53:57 PM
Last mob I worked for [a multinational], which was a few years back now, thru a BBQ in the allocated 30 minute lunch break.must have made you all feel appreciated... I thought thats what teh end of year party was about... thanks for a good year and the extra's you did during the year... :(
Snags & bread [no butter, hamburgers or even a chop].
Salads, that the QC's had knocked out the day before.
and out of code soft drinks, at room temperature.
and I kid you not.
Post by: Bird on December 02, 2019, 03:35:32 PM
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What friggin company would put a Christmas/end of year party on a forking week day, dipchits?? ::) :o :P
Diggity Dig..
Ours this year...
After few years of small turnouts to the parties, due to Shit venues, the organisers arranging it within walking distance of their own flat on other side of town, nowhere near parking or public transport...
This year they are splurging...
Going BBQ in the carpark on a Wednesday... no tables, no chairs, paper plates... ahhhhh you feel valued.
Post by: DrewXT on December 02, 2019, 04:41:53 PM
Diggity Dig..I haven't been to one of my employers Xmas parties for at least 7 years... I've got no interest in going to watch a bunch of phucktards I don't like get pissed
Ours this year...
After few years of small turnouts to the parties, due to Shit venues, the organisers arranging it within walking distance of their own flat on other side of town, nowhere near parking or public transport...
This year they are splurging...
Going BBQ in the carpark on a Wednesday... no tables, no chairs, paper plates... ahhhhh you feel valued.
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Post by: rockrat on December 02, 2019, 05:41:57 PM
Hey Swannie, were you a soft touch or the senior man, company I worked for it was always the responsibility of the senior man or woman at the function to pay, no ifs, no buts, left the accountants no room to complain. :cheers: :cheers:This has been a pretty standard approach in the major public companies I have worked for. Essentially meant that someone not in attendance had to sign off on the expense claim.
These days even if I get shouted a $10 lunch I need to register it on the ‘system’.
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Post by: Bird on December 02, 2019, 05:55:16 PM
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I haven't been to one of my employers Xmas parties for at least 7 years... I've got no interest in going to watch a bunch of phucktards I don't like get pissed
Few of us asked if we could go to Indochine/Tien Dat or even Blacky pub for a countery while gettin the carwashed at Ramjeets nextdoor..
They wouldnt go for it :(
Post by: edz on December 02, 2019, 06:42:57 PM
The current Mob, a big company,
We no longer get a company Christmas party, Just an in House $50 company voucher . "
From what we understand.
As of the end last financial year period, This years generous Company to staff $50 Christmas in house voucher gift has been cancelled ..
How ever, junior to senior and CEO Management have been approved for and granted a 10 > 20% wage increase ..
I guess if there is a change of heart .. we will see in a couple of weeks ...
This scene may have crossed a few minds ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLWXkT7g9T8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLWXkT7g9T8)
Post by: Fizzie on December 03, 2019, 09:37:24 AM
Last meeting, I put forward a suggestion that we change them to Saturday lunchtime to have a short meeting over a cold beer, followed by a barbie lunch. Everybody thought this was a great idea so we'll go with it.
Our President decided, by himself, that that would apparently cost too much, so, as per the reminder that's just come through:
"The December meeting will not be held tonight. We will meet this Saturday at 12:30 at the hall.
This will be followed by an informal get together.
Bring your own food and drinks. We'll have the BBQ operating if you want to cook your own meat"
& that is also supposed to be this year's Christmas function / than you to everybody for their efforts during the year! ::) :'( >:(
Gee, thanks :'(
Post by: Bigfish on December 03, 2019, 10:42:02 AM
Our volunteer group usually has a bi-monthly meeting on Tuesday nights.
Last meeting, I put forward a suggestion that we change them to Saturday lunchtime to have a short meeting over a cold beer, followed by a barbie lunch. Everybody thought this was a great idea so we'll go with it.
Our President decided, by himself, that that would apparently cost too much, so, as per the reminder that's just come through:
"The December meeting will not be held tonight. We will meet this Saturday at 12:30 at the hall.
This will be followed by an informal get together.
Bring your own food and drinks. We'll have the BBQ operating if you want to cook your own meat"
& that is also supposed to be this year's Christmas function / than you to everybody for their efforts during the year! ::) :'( >:(
Gee, thanks :'(
I,d be sticking a rocket up this pricks arse mate.....Hold your own meeting and dont invite him!!
Post by: Bird on December 03, 2019, 10:48:53 AM
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Hold your own meeting and dont invite him!!x eleventy
Post by: Pottsy on December 03, 2019, 12:14:43 PM
I know lots of my staff would not hesitate to work a little bit of extra time if required.
Always did a monthly meeting over a meal and drinks, Xmas dinner at a nice restaurant for them and a partner plus the occasional bbq in summer. Plus plenty thank yous for jobs well done
I always remember one of my bosses saying you’ll always catch more bees with honey!
Post by: rockrat on December 03, 2019, 06:07:52 PM
Small gestures can make a huge difference!
Also reminds of an old boss who said whenever you hire somebody, hire somebody better than you. Don’t feel threatened they will take your job because you are both much more likely to succeed.
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Post by: Fizzie on December 04, 2019, 08:30:56 AM
Always did a monthly meeting over a meal and drinks, Xmas dinner at a nice restaurant for them and a partner plus the occasional bbq in summer. Plus plenty thank yous for jobs well done
Yep, the monthly meetings used to finish with the beer fridge being opened for an hour or so (& everybody put in $2 for a beer, so no cost to the group) but that stopped last year. Yes, you can say that it's on the "bosses" head if anything happens to one of us while driving home after having had a couple of beers, but ... :'(
We also used to have a sit-down dinner once a year for awards night, with local dignitaries invited, but they've stopped as well. His comment was that they're too much work to organise (although he has never done any of the organising for them ::)) & (I think the real problem ???) that it doesn't feel good to him sitting at the top table with guests & their partners, while there are "only" 40 odd members & partners out there - he apparently wants a cast of 1000's :'(
Unfortunately, as with all small groups, there's no-one else (including me!) even remotely interested in taking on the job, so there's nothing likely to change :'(