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Title: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Beachman on March 16, 2020, 02:25:43 PM
I work for a large Australian Bank and have been working from home on Mondays for about 2 years without issue. Today due to COVID 19,  70% of our department are working from home and the server crashed. So that’s sent our IT department into a spin because work was planning on getting even more people working from home to reduce the risk.

While the system was down I decided to have a play on the home computer, but even that is really really slow to the point it reminds me of the old dial up days.

My question is, with work sending people home to work and Schools planning on sending kids home for online education, can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: plusnq on March 16, 2020, 02:58:10 PM
I work for a large Australian Bank and have been working from home on Mondays for about 2 years without issue. Today due to COVID 19,  70% of our department are working from home and the server crashed. So that’s sent our IT department into a spin because work was planning on getting even more people working from home to reduce the risk.

While the system was down I decided to have a play on the home computer, but even that is really really slow to the point it reminds me of the old dial up days.

My question is, with work sending people home to work and Schools planning on sending kids home for online education, can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??


If you like 14.4K speeds. The whole economic system is predicated on just enough capacity. This isn't looking good at the moment on so many levels.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 16, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: plusnq
If you like 14.4K speeds. The whole economic system is predicated on just enough capacity. This isn't looking good at the moment on so many levels.

Agree 100%
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: D4D on March 16, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
It is going to be an interesting time indeed, I expect the NBN to fail under the pressure. Even if the RSPs upped their backhaul capacity I don't believe there is enough spare fiber lit up/terminated to cope. I'm with a private provider that doesn't use any NBN infrastructure so I am hoping I'll be ok.

From a corporate IT side, anybody who is still managing their own on-prem VPN is going to be in a world of hurt. Maybe this is all a ploy by the SaaS and public cloud vendors to get everybody to migrate :)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bigfish on March 16, 2020, 03:44:50 PM
We knew 10 years ago that the NBN was doomed to fail...without a doubt.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: tryagain on March 16, 2020, 03:48:43 PM
Don't forget people in isolation trying to constantly stream 4K Netflix to keen themselves entertained.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 16, 2020, 04:04:24 PM
can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??

This was being discussed on Whirlpool yesterday, &, same as with many / most things NBN, consensus was it depends on what you're on?

FTTP should be fine, HFC maybe & downwards from there :'(
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: KeithB on March 16, 2020, 04:12:08 PM
Don't forget all the students doing their courses remotely.
Keith
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: D4D on March 16, 2020, 04:25:42 PM
Don't forget all the students doing their courses remotely.

Yup, my son's school has closed on Wednesday for a school wide online learning from home trial.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: plusnq on March 16, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
Yes, my son's school closure plan is real-time lessons on zoom.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 16, 2020, 06:05:08 PM
NO word on daughters school yet... nothing like last minute.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: MB TD42 on March 16, 2020, 08:34:52 PM
Antisocial behaviour has been approved in our kids school...no assemblies...no Cultural food sharing. No toilet paper...
Hmmm...everything normal ere...lol

We're all ere coz we ain't all there.
   

Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: moeite on March 17, 2020, 01:48:02 PM
[deletia]
My question is, with work sending people home to work and Schools planning on sending kids home for online education, can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??

My answer is, probably not.

ISP's don't like spending money so they'll only be buying enough bandwidth to cover themselves. They'll be buying it in blocks - they'll buy a heap for the peak hors and bugger all during the very low demand hours. Are the ISP's going to be willing to pay out for more bandwidth during low demand hours (during the day) ?

The next question that crops up is what's NBNCo going to do ? Are they going to jack the price up during the currently low demand hours ? NBNCo, in turn, has to buy their bandwidth from somewhere so what are those bandwidth suppliers going to do ? Limit bandwidth, jack up prices, what ??

What's in the contracts that companies, big and small, have with their ISP's ? What's in the contracts that the ISP's have with NBNCo ? What's in the contracts that NBNCo have with their suppliers ?

We have no way of knowing what's in all of the contracts so I suspect retail, domestic users will get left with leftovers which probably won't amount to very much at all.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bigfish on March 17, 2020, 02:02:20 PM
Australia’s two largest internet service providers are offering additional broadband and mobile internet access free of charge during the coronavirus pandemic, with Telstra besting an offer from Optus to provide unlimited downloads until the end of April.

But analysts and politicians are calling on the National Broadband Network to at least match the companies’ offers as more Aussies are asked to work from home.

Telstra chief executive Andy Penn announced its new effort to assist customers during the pandemic, just days after directing the company’s workforce of more than 20,000 people to work from home.
Telstra and Optus have announced free data offers to help more Australians work from home during the next two months.


Under the new scheme, Telstra broadband users will be able to access unlimited downloads from this Thursday until April 30.

Telstra postpaid mobile customers will also be given an extra 25GB data allowance if they apply for it within the Telstra 24x7 app by the end of March, and some prepaid customers can access an extra 10GB.
Title: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on March 17, 2020, 04:30:08 PM
Having extra data allowance doesn’t help when you can’t access it.

All of the extra traffic has killed my work from home connection.
Just paid $2k for a brand new 4G setup in my home office with dual antennas and modem.
Went from consistent 15 down and 25 up (I use lots of upload bandwidth) last week.
To about 3 down and 5 up this morning....

Made for an awesome day of online training today... :(
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: plusnq on March 17, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
Having extra data allowance doesn’t help when you can’t access it.

All of the extra traffic has killed my work from home connection.
Just paid $2k for a brand new 4G setup in my home office with dual antennas and modem.
Went from consistent 15 down and 25 up (I use lots of upload bandwidth) last week.
To about 3 down and 5 up this morning....

Made for an awesome day of online training today... :(

Can’t wait to hear all the old modem memes. 😂😂😂 This was so predictable though. In inner north Brisbane the first day of the school holidays is time to mow the lawn or clean the pool as the internet speeds are awful with all the kids at home. Add in a large chunk of the workforce and it will be dreadful.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: plusnq on March 19, 2020, 08:48:38 AM
I’m shocked and surprised.......not

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/nbn/nbn-complaints-yet-to-surge-as-telstra-optus-announce-coronavirus-relief/news-story/e00f79200ac8053418aef3fc5a4a5d92
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Kangaron on March 19, 2020, 10:44:19 AM
I'd guess most on the cheaper plans, 25 or 50 down will have problems.
Fibre to the node will not help either.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Wazza999 on March 19, 2020, 12:32:51 PM
Some sites appeared to be loading slowly yesterday so I checked the line speed. So far the FTTN is performing well, at the modem, it was 55Mb/s, we pay for 50. The line showed itself to be capable of 118Mb/s on Telstra's initial testing. The Telstra CEO made the point that there is excess capacity 9-5 as the retail network is meant to cope with 9pm movie streaming. Might be pushed to cope with working from home on top, to be seen. Fortunately only 3 cases so far in the ACT, one possibly from community transmission. If you could guarantee that you would stay healthy the boondocks look attractive.

2011 NT Pajero; 2007 Goldstream Crown 4B

Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: gronk on March 19, 2020, 04:48:02 PM
I'd guess most on the cheaper plans, 25 or 50 down will have problems.
Fibre to the node will not help either.

How many were lucky enough to NOT have FTTN ??

I now have Netflix.....have watched a few movies where it buffered fairly bad......even did a speed test while it was buffering....21Mbs.
Netflix say it only needs 7Mbs to run smoothly, so is the problem not the NBN, but Netflix not sending the information thru fast enough ??
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 19, 2020, 04:50:57 PM
so is the problem not the NBN, but Netflix not sending the information thru fast enough ??

Nah Gronk - the buffering is in the original! >:D
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: D4D on March 19, 2020, 05:35:52 PM
I now have Netflix.....have watched a few movies where it buffered fairly bad......even did a speed test while it was buffering....21Mbs.
Netflix say it only needs 7Mbs to run smoothly, so is the problem not the NBN, but Netflix not sending the information thru fast enough ??

What are you running Netflix on? I found my Samsung TV wasn't the best experience. Swapped to the Telstra TV and it works great, that was even on my old 6mbps ADSL connection.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: paceman on March 19, 2020, 05:50:13 PM
What are you running Netflix on? I found my Samsung TV wasn't the best experience. Swapped to the Telstra TV and it works great, that was even on my old 6mbps ADSL connection.

+1...

21Mbps is plenty for Netflix...
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: gronk on March 19, 2020, 06:27:49 PM
Running a new Apple tv...4K, although I don't need it for my "old" Samsung plasma .
Usually have a laptop and a tablet connected to the same modem ( Huawei ), but not doing anything while the movie is on.
Only buffers approx 1 time out of 6 ?
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: D4D on March 19, 2020, 06:28:57 PM
Running a new Apple tv...4K, although I don't need it for my "old" Samsung plasma .
Usually have a laptop and a tablet connected to the same modem ( Huawei ), but not doing anything while the movie is on.
Only buffers approx 1 time out of 6 ?

Streaming 4K you'll probably struggle with 21mbps
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: gronk on March 19, 2020, 07:18:34 PM
Streaming 4K you'll probably struggle with 21mbps

The apple tv can stream 4K, but I don't think it does as the TV is an old plasma ? Plus I'm on the cheap plan...standard HD.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: jtraf on March 20, 2020, 08:12:11 AM
Most schools are falling over themselves to get online learning setup.  Most are falling back to zoom and pegging their hopes on the platform.

When we had our staff meeting the other day I advised to the people in my org that even though we have been setup for Remote Desktop access to the environment for a number of years that the contention on the links and flooding of the network around your personal connection may see this fall over.

We will be OK till the second term starts and schools start to push lessons out to the thousands of student accross the network.  Going to be a lot of stressed IT people who get flooded with very little option than to say that the internet is the weak point and there is nothing we can do about it.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 20, 2020, 09:22:27 AM
Most schools are falling over themselves to get online learning setup.  Most are falling back to zoom and pegging their hopes on the platform.

When we had our staff meeting the other day I advised to the people in my org that even though we have been setup for Remote Desktop access to the environment for a number of years that the contention on the links and flooding of the network around your personal connection may see this fall over.

We will be OK till the second term starts and schools start to push lessons out to the thousands of student accross the network.  Going to be a lot of stressed IT people who get flooded with very little option than to say that the internet is the weak point and there is nothing we can do about it.
we are already noticing the speed drop with VPN users ... Even though most are citrix apps its going to get nasty
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Mace on March 20, 2020, 12:57:38 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/19/netflix-to-slow-europe-transmissions-to-avoid-broadband-overload

Netflix has agreed to slow down the speed at which it delivers shows to subscribers to reduce its traffic across Europe by 25% – a measure that may affect picture quality for some viewers – in a deal with the EU to ensure that broadband networks perform adequately as millions of people confined to their homes go online.

Netflix chief executive Reed Hastings agreed to slow the bit rate at which it delivers programming, which determines the size and quality of video and audio files, across Europe and the UK for 30 days. Netflix has 51 million users across Europe, including 11 million in the UK.


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The agreement comes after talks with Thierry Breton, the industry commissioner of the EU’s executive arm, the European commission.

“Following the discussions between commissioner Thierry Breton and Reed Hastings – and given the extraordinary challenges raised by the coronavirus – Netflix has decided to begin reducing bit rates across all our streams in Europe for 30 days,” said a Netflix spokesman.

“We estimate that this will reduce Netflix traffic on European networks by around 25% while also ensuring a good quality service for our members.”
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 22, 2020, 04:46:49 PM
The big test is about to start tomorrow morning..

The ISP's and NBN are making changes to assist... but what about after all this finishes in a year or so? Back to crap internet?
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: gronk on March 22, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
The big test is about to start tomorrow morning..

The ISP's and NBN are making changes to assist... but what about after all this finishes in a year or so? Back to crap internet?

Or go to Somalia...still getting around in horse and carts, but beat us for internet speeds ??  Sometimes we are the lucky country...other times we are smucks !!
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: CTL on March 22, 2020, 05:48:15 PM
Or go to Somalia...still getting around in horse and carts, but beat us for internet speeds ??  Sometimes we are the lucky country...other times we are smucks !!

You can NOT be serious.  What a stupid statement.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 23, 2020, 09:53:22 AM
MyGov site is struggling... couldnt get to log on, then could... then cant log in... then can.. then next page freezes.. :(
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Hairs on March 23, 2020, 09:57:52 AM
REST's app is struggling.
Pretty sure the total is wrong, last email(3 weeks ago) said $xxxxxxx, only showing  a 5th of that.
Plus I can't update details, the never ending circle of thinking appears.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Spada on March 23, 2020, 11:02:52 AM
Mrs Spada's office is trialling "work from home" today (she's in the office to monitor what is working from her team at their homes), not going well apparently with with everything going slow?
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on March 23, 2020, 12:51:25 PM
MyGov site is struggling... couldnt get to log on, then could... then cant log in... then can.. then next page freezes.. :(
Apparently it was hit by a denial of service attack.

 https://abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/mygov-website-down-centrelink-massive-queues-coronavirus/12080558?pfmredir=sm (https://abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/mygov-website-down-centrelink-massive-queues-coronavirus/12080558?pfmredir=sm)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 23, 2020, 01:15:13 PM
Apparently it was hit by a denial of service attack.

Out of China ??? >:D
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 23, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
Apparently it was hit by a denial of service attack.

 https://abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/mygov-website-down-centrelink-massive-queues-coronavirus/12080558?pfmredir=sm (https://abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/mygov-website-down-centrelink-massive-queues-coronavirus/12080558?pfmredir=sm)
(https://i.imgur.com/YgKiMo0.gif)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 23, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YgKiMo0.gif)
I picked it like a dirty nose :D :D :D


“MyGov has not been offline, it’s simply suffered from a distributed denial of service attack this morning,” he told reporters, but refused to provide more detail on whether it was an attack from overseas or not.


But by question time, at 2.55pm, Robert was forced to take back his statement, telling parliament that it wasn’t an attack but just the alarms that are designed to detect and stop DDoS attacks triggering due to the large volume of people trying to log in.

MyGov had last week been able to cope with about 6,000 users logging on at once, but Robert said this was upgraded to 55,000 over the weekend in expectation that many more Australians would have been logging on after the increase in business shutdowns as a result of the coronavirus pandemic forcing more people into unemployment.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/23/incompetence-attack-mygov-website-did-not-crash-because-of-ddos-cyber-assault-as-stuart-robert-claimed (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/23/incompetence-attack-mygov-website-did-not-crash-because-of-ddos-cyber-assault-as-stuart-robert-claimed)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: tryagain on March 23, 2020, 05:36:15 PM
The website is going to need to be able to cope with a lot more than 55,000 people, chatted to a few people who employ today and they will all likely be laying of people in near future, expect to see the unemployment rate skyrocket.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: tedota on March 23, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
Unemployment rate at around 5.3 or so and the economists predicted it will go to about 7 or so like when the GFC happened. 15-20 percent would be my guess.
Feel so sorry for anyone affected and the snowball effect it is going to have.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: gronk on March 23, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
The website is going to need to be able to cope with a lot more than 55,000 people, chatted to a few people who employ today and they will all likely be laying of people in near future, expect to see the unemployment rate skyrocket.

Pollie on TV tonight said they are trying to employ an extra 5,000 people to handle the load ?

That's 10 calls each a day.....that's 3 before cuppa tea time, 3 before lunch and a whopping 4 after lunch ???  But to be fair, they will have to process 10 online claims a day as well !!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 24, 2020, 09:13:42 AM
The website is going to need to be able to cope with a lot more than 55,000 people, chatted to a few people who employ today and they will all likely be laying of people in near future, expect to see the unemployment rate skyrocket.
They said <90,000 were trying to log on.... with the queues at centerlink, and this going on - I dont think they are on the right planet... they have no idea.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 24, 2020, 09:28:33 AM
They said <90,000 were trying to log on.... with the queues at centerlink, and this going on - I dont think they are on the right planet... they have no idea.

& then you have the "normal" load of people trying to do their fortnightly reporting :'(

So if you can't get through to report, do your payments then stop ??? >:(
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 24, 2020, 10:07:24 AM
& then you have the "normal" load of people trying to do their fortnightly reporting :'(

So if you can't get through to report, do your payments then stop ??? >:(
Good question... add that to the 2034982349820948203942039 other unanswered/grey areas we currently have.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on March 24, 2020, 12:12:14 PM
Works VPN has started to fail :'(
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on March 24, 2020, 12:55:46 PM
Works VPN has started to fail :'(
Official communication from our head office overseas;
All European employees struggling with their country’s VPN connection can log on to the Australian VPN.
No body is connected to that one.... ;D
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 24, 2020, 01:05:17 PM
Good question... add that to the 2034982349820948203942039 other unanswered/grey areas we currently have.

just flicked an e-mail to our Fed Member suggesting that those obligations be cancelled.

We'll see what happens ???
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Mace on March 30, 2020, 08:06:33 AM
Our 46.3/14.8 Mbps last night went to 12.0/15.6 Mbps at 8:30AM.
At 9:00 I cant find a server on speedtest.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Paddler Ed on March 30, 2020, 08:27:20 AM
Ours seems to be about normal (which has surprised me given how many in the area covered by our tower are likely to be working from home) and importantly, we seem to have picked up a bit of signal strength on the box (I now have 3x green lights instead of 2x amber more often), which is good - just grabs that little bit more each time it seems.


I suspect it's going to show the ISPs that are working and those that are over-subscribed to what they can offer.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 30, 2020, 08:43:33 AM
I suspect it's going to show the ISPs that are working and those that are over-subscribed to what they can offer.

Yep!

We're on HFC through Aussie BB, but only on a 25/5 plan, which does everything we need.

We usually get about 23 down & 4.7 up.

Just tested now & got 21.3 down & 4.6 up, at 8.30 on Monday morning, when everybody should be starting to do things, so  happy with that ;D
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: rockrat on March 30, 2020, 12:49:25 PM
We're with TPG and also on HFC in inner Brisbane. Just ran speediest.net, 45.31Mbps download and 17.13Mbps upload on a 50Mbps plan.   :cup:
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Mace on March 30, 2020, 02:16:53 PM
We're with TPG and also on HFC in inner Brisbane. Just ran speediest.net, 45.31Mbps download and 17.13Mbps upload on a 50Mbps plan.   :cup:

Ours (Iprimus) actually improved during the day.

Generally ran at 25-28Mbps down and 15-16Mpbs up.

I guess the early figure might have been due to everyone working from home using their connections at 9:00 AM to see how they performed.....

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: scrubber on March 31, 2020, 07:17:54 AM
I'm with iprimus and still on adsl2.  No NBN within cooee of us.  Network speed is going to Shit at night but is "ok" during the day.  I'm on an old capped plan and due to ALL their tech and sales support being in the Philippines, there  is zero support available at the moment.  You can't ring them, email them, live chat with em - nothing.  Just want to bump my plan to an unlimited one as 2 teenagers and work from home has smashed our data allowance.   I'll be moving to Aussie Broadband as soon as I can - assuming they still have a few old adsl plans left ;)  Their support is aussie based and from what I've seen so far been very active.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: paceman on March 31, 2020, 07:27:34 AM
I'm with iprimus and still on adsl2.  No NBN within cooee of us.  Network speed is going to Shit at night but is "ok" during the day.  I'm on an old capped plan and due to ALL their tech and sales support being in the Philippines, there  is zero support available at the moment.  You can't ring them, email them, live chat with em - nothing.  Just want to bump my plan to an unlimited one as 2 teenagers and work from home has smashed our data allowance.   I'll be moving to Aussie Broadband as soon as I can - assuming they still have a few old adsl plans left ;)  Their support is aussie based and from what I've seen so far been very active.

i'm not 100% sure Aussie have ADSL plans any more?  none on the website... maybe they hide them away...

might want to confirm that...

you are right about them being good... best around, IMO...

have you tried looking into NBN fixed wireless?

happy to check for you, if you want... PM if you want...
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: geopaj on March 31, 2020, 07:42:37 AM
I'm with iprimus and still on adsl2.  No NBN within cooee of us.  Network speed is going to Shit at night but is "ok" during the day.  I'm on an old capped plan and due to ALL their tech and sales support being in the Philippines, there  is zero support available at the moment.  You can't ring them, email them, live chat with em - nothing.  Just want to bump my plan to an unlimited one as 2 teenagers and work from home has smashed our data allowance.   I'll be moving to Aussie Broadband as soon as I can - assuming they still have a few old adsl plans left ;)  Their support is aussie based and from what I've seen so far been very active.

We’re with Aussie BB. Had a few teething problems but have always been impressed with their service support. Having  Australian based Support staff was one of the main reasons we chose them
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 31, 2020, 10:08:39 AM
We’re with Aussie BB. Had a few teething problems but have always been impressed with their service support. Having  Australian based Support staff was one of the main reasons we chose them

As are we.

& even if they haven't been able to sort things out, because it's a NBN problem that's out of their hands, it's just so good to be able to ring them, & you can both understand every word that each other are saying, & know that they are actually listening to your description of what is going on, rather than just reading off a script! ;D :cup:
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: scrubber on March 31, 2020, 10:56:32 AM
i'm not 100% sure Aussie have ADSL plans any more?  none on the website... maybe they hide them away...

might want to confirm that...

you are right about them being good... best around, IMO...

have you tried looking into NBN fixed wireless?

happy to check for you, if you want... PM if you want...

Nope not even fixed wireless.  NBN approached us to build the 50M tower on our block - we declined.  Its supposed to be built on a block up the road from us but as of now , not a rock has been moved so far to build it.  There's a ton of relatively inaccessible state government land (nothing a dozer wouldn't fix) up behind us this is higher to build but they chose to build it in front of someone house.  Fixed wireless or Skymuster will be our only options via NBN.  I am also seriously looking at  Optus 4G as I'm able to get over (90Mbs on my mobile with that).  They have a 500G for $68 a month plan from memory.  Either way, iPrimus's response has been nothing short of pathetic so I'm moving on (assuming that iPrimus could be bothered getting out of bed to help facilitate this).

With regards to AussieBB - my gut feeling is that they don't have any ADSL plans anymore. 
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 31, 2020, 11:15:25 AM
With regards to AussieBB - my gut feeling is that they don't have any ADSL plans anymore.

Think they may ???

https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/index.php?s=ADSL (https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/index.php?s=ADSL)

Punch your address into their system & see what they can do for you!
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: scrubber on March 31, 2020, 11:41:47 AM
Thanks - that helped clear the muddy waters - they don't offer ADSL to new customers.  Darn.
Optus 4G is looking enticing in the mean time...
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Fizzie on March 31, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Thanks - that helped clear the muddy waters - they don't offer ADSL to new customers.  Darn.
Optus 4G is looking enticing in the mean time...

Damn :'(
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on April 16, 2020, 11:45:50 AM
Trying to work today has been painful.
Just did a quick speed test on both of my connections.

Dual antenna, 4G modem hardwired to PC;
* Ping= 256 ms
* Down= 0.91 Mbps
* Up= 15.1 Mbps

ADSL hardwired to PC;
* Ping= 198 ms
* Down= 13.2 Mbps
* Up= 0.89 Mbps

Syncing a few GB worth of files today has been awesome..... ::)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: plusnq on April 16, 2020, 02:33:48 PM
Upload poor but download speed is good
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: bkim on April 17, 2020, 12:43:51 AM
Upload poor but download speed is good

That seems to be the problem with a lot of people's connections at the moment!
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: plusnq on April 17, 2020, 05:30:13 AM
And at 5:28 am

Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: shakey55 on April 17, 2020, 05:53:14 AM
5:52am

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Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: D4D on April 17, 2020, 07:19:58 AM
That seems to be the problem with a lot of people's connections at the moment!

Actually that's the way the network is designed, just like the power grid, for downstream consumption, not upstream, it is behaving as designed.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on April 17, 2020, 07:23:17 AM
Actually that's the way the network is designed, just like the power grid, for downstream consumption, not upstream, it is behaving as designed.
Any insight into why ADSL and 4G are directly opposite?

As noted in my earlier post above, ADSL has no upload and 4G has no download.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: D4D on April 17, 2020, 07:46:33 AM
Any insight into why ADSL and 4G are directly opposite?

As noted in my earlier post above, ADSL has no upload and 4G has no download.

Your ADSL looks normal, the 4G is weird, could be an anomaly with the speedtest, can you run it again?
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: paceman on April 17, 2020, 08:10:55 AM
Your ADSL looks normal, the 4G is weird, could be an anomaly with the speedtest, can you run it again?

could it be that a large majority of people are using ADSL/NBN for video conferencing/web calling/facetiming now, but not many people are using 4G for the same thing?

so your ADSL is getting hammered in the upload because of the extra bandwidth for video upload, but people are still using 4G for mainly downloads?
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: chester ver2.0 on April 17, 2020, 08:49:58 AM
You guys need to stop complaining

My suburb must be the last one to get the NBN (June i have been told) at least it is Fibre to the Curb which is apparently quite fast

So for now the old ADSL modem is still chugging away giving me a blistering 5mb per sec download speed ;D

So get off the net so i can finish the last Kingdom
Title: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on April 17, 2020, 08:53:35 AM
could it be that a large majority of people are using ADSL/NBN for video conferencing/web calling/facetiming now, but not many people are using 4G for the same thing?

so your ADSL is getting hammered in the upload because of the extra bandwidth for video upload, but people are still using 4G for mainly downloads?
ADSL is throttled to max 2Mbps upload for everyone except business customers that pay for guaranteed up/down speeds over 50Mbps on the copper network.
And yes apparently the copper network can handle up/down speeds over 50Mbps, but not enough for everyone to have it that way.
I was quoted over $800/month for a guaranteed 50/50 connection to my property, hence the $2k install of my dual antenna 4G system instead.

The way 4G was explained to me when they where installing my system, is that it is heavily traffic dependent, even more so then ADSL.
I have an Optus branded modem running a Telstra sim.
During the installation they reconfigure the modem and discard the band settings forcing it to only work on the best channel for me.
Unfortunately our tower only has 2 bands.
One that everyone’s devices automatically connect to, the other that has upload speeds worse then my 0.85Mbps ADSL connection. :(

So unfortunately I’m connected to the tower with the rest of the town that are now working from home, and today’s speeds are only mildly better then yesterday.
Up= 12.1Mbps
Down= 1.5Mbps
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on April 17, 2020, 08:58:06 AM
You guys need to stop complaining

My suburb must be the last one to get the NBN (June i have been told) at least it is Fibre to the Curb which is apparently quite fast

So for now the old ADSL modem is still chugging away giving me a blistering 5mb per sec download speed ;D

So get off the net so i can finish the last Kingdom
Ha!
The fiber cable literally stops at my driveway, but I’m zoned as rural and not allowed to connect to it.

Got given a verbal estimate of over $10k to run the cable 20m from the mini node in the footpath to my phone line.
Despite stepping on top of the fiber connection box every time I walk out my driveway, my only option for NBN is Skymuster satellite.
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: paceman on April 17, 2020, 09:03:51 AM
ADSL is throttled to max 2Mbps upload for everyone except business customers that pay for guaranteed up/down speeds over 50Mbps on the copper network.
And yes apparently the copper network can handle up/down speeds over 50Mbps, but not enough for everyone to have it that way.


is that just in your area?  or just your provider?

haven't heard of that restriction up here...
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Pete79 on April 17, 2020, 09:11:35 AM
is that just in your area?  or just your provider?

haven't heard of that restriction up here...
Telstra have told me on several occasions that all of Australia ADSL is throttled to max 2Mbps Upload.

I have never had a connection that got over 2Mbps Upload. That’s been that case for me living in NQ, SEQ and 5 different suburbs in Sydney.

Most people only care about downloading content, it’s only those of us that handle large files and do a lot of syncing with cloud based servers that notice this bottleneck.
Once you try and jam a big file up that little pipe your whole world stops.... ;)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: paceman on April 17, 2020, 09:28:37 AM
Telstra have told me on several occasions that all of Australia ADSL is throttled to max 2Mbps Upload.

I have never had a connection that got over 2Mbps Upload. That’s been that case for me living in NQ, SEQ and 5 different suburbs in Sydney.

Most people only care about downloading content, it’s only those of us that handle large files and do a lot of syncing with cloud based servers that notice this bottleneck.
Once you try and jam a big file up that little pipe your whole world stops.... ;)

i agree with you...

love the big upload speeds i get... makes syncing my work files and backblaze backups a breeze... :)
Title: Re: Can Australia internet handle what’s coming it’s way??
Post by: Bird on April 17, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Pete79
Once you try and jam a big file up that little pipe your whole world stops.... ;)

I love it when you talk dirty... :P