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Network Attached Storage Devices
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:20:03 PM »
Anyone with experience in these???

Looking at 4 bay 16TB units.
Been looking today at these brands.... Specs and prices differ as in everything...

http://www.thecus.com/sp_comtable.php
http://www.qnap.com/en/index.php?lang=en&sn=822&c=351
http://www.synology.com/products/compare_spec.php?lang=enu&compare_list%5B%5D=DS413j&compare_list%5B%5D=DS413&compare_list%5B%5D=DS412%2B

So far teh Synology DS413j DS413 DS412+  units are sorta looking best...

Anyone running one at moment??? Good/Bad/Ugly???
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 05:47:57 PM »
Mate of mine runs the DS413j. He finds it excellent, plenty of apps for it and very reliable. I haven't heard two much about the other brands listed.

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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2013, 06:05:51 PM »
Synology seem to be the bees knees from my experience.
Just don't ask me about a certain Netgear i have that shat itself the other day and corrupted both the mirrored drives within. Lucky it was backed up to another NTFS drive.
Got the netgear coz it was cheap, and it is cheap. STAY AWAY.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2013, 06:25:10 PM »
Qnap get a good rap. I have been running a Synology NAS for over 3 years without an issue. Fast read/write. All good. Actually have 2 identical units one in house and other in separate garage. The main one does a backup to the garage one every night. Always worked perfectly. All my family photos etc on this NAS. Also lots of DVD's and Mp4
Mirrored drive in a NAS are good when you need continuous uptime, say a web database. But a 2nd NAS gives you true redundancy and some chance with theft, fire etc.
If I was setting up now, depending on GB needed, I would possibly look to go totally cloud based. I really like Skydrive.   
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 06:50:31 PM »
I've had a QNAP running constantly for 5 years now.  Replaced a couple of drives and do the updates when available.  Support has been good when I had a question.

Was involved with some Synology devices in an IT project a couple of years back, they were a bit dodgy but may have been the model.

Mate has a Netgear and swears by it.

If I were to buy again I wouldn't hesitate to buy another QNAP.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 07:17:20 PM »
I have two Netgear NAS (one 4 bay 4x2TB, one 6 bay 6x2TB) and two Synology (both two bay devices).  Also have a QNAP.

I like the Synology units and the Netgears (but for different reasons).  In my install, the Netgear wins as it has better support for streaming music services.

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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 10:25:52 PM »
The Synology seems to have more addons/features  but most I'd never use... I do like the look of the qnap.
Looking on Staticeice all the cheaper ones seem interstate :(
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2014, 05:22:20 PM »
Which one did you go for?
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2014, 05:41:20 PM »
Not sure if you have bought your nas yet, but I have a hp micro server and it works a treat.  It has four drive bays and if you put freenas on it, very stable...
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2014, 07:11:02 PM »
Quote from: WilSurf on April 08, 2014, 05:22:20 PM
Which one did you go for?
None yet. Watched a few used ones on ebay, but I still don't see them as great value... suppose it depends on the price you put on photos

If you don't need to access the photos regularly, I still say a 2 TB external drive or 2 for 1/23048239874th the price is better value.. Take one to work and one at ya parents and one at home.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2014, 07:20:59 PM »
I used to run NAS units but found network speeds to be slow and occasional disc corruption would occur.

I have since moved on and now run a pair of Super Micro servers running Windows home server.

Currently running one SSD & two 4TB units giving me 16TB capacity, and I can attach more drives
up to the MB SATA capacity 8 ports:)
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2014, 07:42:38 PM »
My other issue is with NAS or server is your still on a hard drive... They fail, no matter what quality drive you buy.

Shame tape backups aren't cheaper and more reliable...
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2014, 07:52:00 PM »
I've had/used them all over the years and I reckon the qnap is probably the best of them but for myself I've gone bang for buck and run one of the new 4 bay Netgear ReadyNas 104 with 4tb drives - it hasn't missed a beat so far streaming video and music.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2014, 08:24:24 AM »
Lost I don't know a lot about storage options but this is what I have.

http://www.drobo.com/storage-products/5n/
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2014, 09:42:17 AM »
How are they with music streaming to lets say Sonos?
Are those micro servers so much better?
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2014, 09:51:13 AM »
I know we can watch the movies from the drobo to the tv if that is any help.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2014, 10:20:17 AM »
Quote from: WilSurf on April 09, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
How are they with music streaming to lets say Sonos?
Are those micro servers so much better?

Wilsurf kafir the sonos just run a single disk resonable price NAS. Really don't need anything flash. Just make sure your music is backed up elsewhere. I run a two disk netgear duo. If I was doing it again I would buy a Atom based mini PC and run a program called Vortexbox. Linux based freeware that rips, catalogs and stores your disks automatically, for both itunes for mobiles and for the Sonos.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2014, 06:48:00 AM »
Quote from: paceman on April 08, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
Not sure if you have bought your nas yet, but I have a hp micro server and it works a treat.  It has four drive bays and if you put freenas on it, very stable...

+1! I have one of these running Ubuntu, with Serviio DLNA server so I can access video from 2xTV's, and any number of laptops, Ipad's etc around the house :)
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2014, 10:33:17 AM »
Quote from: Lost on April 10, 2014, 09:57:07 AM
http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Storage/NAS/49717-RN10400
don't look bad value.


i'd buy this for the same price:

http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Storage/NAS/48979-712969-375

a bit more flexible when it comes to software and hardware...
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2014, 11:15:54 AM »
If you also have macs at home and are looking for a nas check whether it supports time machine so that you have the option of using it for backup too. I have an old dlink which doesn't and got a netgear one which does the job.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2014, 12:29:05 PM »
I have a Synology DS412+ and it's been flawless. Excellent software, everything just works.   :cup:

Nuff said from me.  ;D
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2014, 12:51:41 PM »
Been looking at this today if you have an old box and some spare drives sitting around. unRAID server
http://lime-technology.com/


Advantage of "not" using traditional raid but still being able to pool drives into shares.
Uses 1 (largest) drive as a parity drive (the whole drive is a parity drive) and then pooling the other drives.
Advantage is if you want to upgrade one of your drives, or it crashes you can just replace it and it will rebuild that drive. Does it for both the parity drive or any of your pool drives.


Simple interface via web, runs headless, boots off a usb drive, spins down drives and when accessed will only spin up the drive which has the data you need.
Low end PC hardware requirements
Best thing is it is free for up to 3 drives and low cost licence after that.
Might have to have a play with it tonight.

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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2014, 01:44:24 PM »
Since i work as a network systems engineer i went all out on my build :)

Im running UnRaid in a 24bay 4u Enclosure. Currently I have 6x2tb's in there and a 300gb drive as the cache disk. All disks in there go via SAS to a HP controller that can handle up to 24 drives but also has an external SAS port allowing me to add another enclosure along the line.

Been running amazingly with no issues even for streaming video around the house.

Disk wise the cheapest option at the moment is to get from officeworks the seagate 2tb external drives for $99 each and rip the disks out :) Officeworks also has a return to store warranty for up to 12 months on their products.

I still have an original 4 bay drobo too that i use for photo backups.

At work we normally roll out 4 bay Qnap's and connect them using Iscsi to their targets for VM backups.
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Re: Network Attached Storage Devices
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2014, 01:50:59 PM »
or this, if you are feeling really keen... :)

http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/03/19/backblaze-storage-pod-4/
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