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Title: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 21, 2013, 08:42:35 PM
Ok so it,s time to start building the itinerary..

Based upon some reading 4 nights out and 4 back seems to be a good comfortable pace so that's 8 nights days in the desert with up to 2 at MT dare and surrounds.  This would give people time to THOUGHTS ?  More /less ect

Jet ;D

Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 21, 2013, 08:54:09 PM
As far as the actual crossing goes Im still researching and plan on speaking to some friends soon who have done it a couple of times for their thoughts, so I dodnt have any input to offer there, but for us leaving from Tassie or Port Melbourne, what would work for us is to make our way to Birdsville via a couple of the corners and meet the QLD and NSW people there I guess?

We would also only be looking at this trip as only being about a 2 week or so holiday. So I guess a few days getting up there, 4 nights or whatever is decided to cross one way and then a few days getting back.

We have done the western side of the simpson just recently and a couple of years ago so there is not a lot more we would want to spend too much time doing once crossed. I am not sure at this stage if we would go back across, so we would most likely just head back home once everyone else departs to return.

I can recommend going out to Old Andado Station and obviously Mt Dare pub once on the Western side.

More to follow as info comes to hand.
Title: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: firefox on August 21, 2013, 09:04:20 PM
Happy to help out. There is a bunch of myswaggers that just did the trip across and back. We all got back in the past couple of days.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 21, 2013, 09:20:18 PM
Happy to help out. There is a bunch of myswaggers that just did the trip across and back. We all got back in the past couple of days.

Awesome mate, be graet to get some recent feedback and ideas. so Fire away Firefox ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Jet ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 21, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
Just did some map study,

If we made INAMINKA our meet point this would be closer for southern members .

we could then enter via the public access road heading north past walkers crossing and intersecting the Birdsville track turning west then north onto the WARBURTON TRACK and intersect the RIG ROAD travel through on this and then intersect the FRENCH LINE just outside PURNI BORE and then into MT DARE. Issue I see here is Fuel as the KMS are up there at about 800kms inaminka to mt dare. and could pose problems.

Or meet INAMINKA and then onto B/ville fuel up and then onto QAA line as per norm.

Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: cp on August 23, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Some good information here:  http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/Deserts/Simpson_Desert.aspx (http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/Deserts/Simpson_Desert.aspx) 

We weren't planning on this trip so soon, so I don't have much info at the moment, but will be looking into it a bit more in the near future and hopefully can make some useful contributions.

Cheers,

Chuyen
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Bird on August 23, 2013, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: jetcrew
If we made INAMINKA our meet point this would be closer for southern members .
If I get leave in the end, I'm happy to lead people from Melbourne up there if it makes life easier.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 23, 2013, 03:30:36 PM
My only concern with going in from the bottom end is the extra KMS added on, but the southern tracks seem to offer the best variety and then for those not heading back west to east they may miss Birdsville.

So not sure will have to see what everyone thinks,

Am happy to come out at INAMINKA on the return west to east , we could still all meet at Inaminka stay 1 night there then up to B/V a night or 2 then out from there.

Jet ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 23, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Day 2 Inaminka to Walkers crossing (camp to be confirmed) 150-180KMS will be short to give a little recovery from the big days put in to get to inaminka so short day will be good.
Day 3 - walkers crossing to B/Ville 225km (more recoevry and short day )
Day 4 - B/Ville. pre departure check and fuel up day etc look around ect
Day 5 B/Ville into simmo (QAA line to popel)
Day 6 Simmo (knolls track onto WAA line)
Day 7 Simmo (WAA line)
Day 8 Simmo (French line)Purni bore
day 9 Simmo  (french line) dallhousie
Day 10 Mt dare
Day 11 Mt Dare
Day 12 Head back through Simmo French line onto RIG Road
Day 13 Simmo Macumbba oil well on RIG
Day 14 Simmo Poolwanna oil well on RIG
Day 15 Simmo Rig road onto K1 back to popell
Day 16 B/Ville



Places listed as are just for reference on estimated distances and proposed route actual camp site are anyone's guess but the oil wells are easy to trace on the map .

This totals around 10 nights in the desert with 2 x 2 night stays B/Ville & Mt Dare.

Those not wishing to return west to east can head off from Mt dare.

Groups can tee up travel to inaminka .

Thoughts ;D ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Bird on August 23, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: jetcrew
Day 2 Inaminka to Walkers crossing (camp to be confirmed) 150-180KMS will be short to give a little recovery from the big days put in to get to inaminka so short day will be good.
Day 3 - walkers crossing to B/Ville 225km (more recoevry and short day )
do it as 1 day and have 1 full day off as an option??
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 24, 2013, 04:38:57 PM
Ok will if all are happy the trip will start at INAMINKA


Jet :D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 24, 2013, 04:50:36 PM
do it as 1 day and have 1 full day off as an option??
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we can just push from INAMINKA to b/ville and gain an extra day to spending the desert which looks good too but 350km trip . Average 70kph 5 hrs ?

If all are happy with this lets look at locking in this

Thoughts ?

Jet
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: D4D on August 24, 2013, 04:53:02 PM
I will probably only have the time to go one way, I've heard west to east is easiest. Any chance to swap the route?
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 24, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
Ok will if all are happy the trip will start at INAMINKA


Jet :D

Suits us :) As does what Lost suggested :)
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 24, 2013, 05:22:57 PM
I will probably only have the time to go one way, I've heard west to east is easiest. Any chance to swap the route?

Sorry mate she's a east to west and back if wanted , you could eat us at Mt dare and puck up the return trip ;D

Jet  :cheers:
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 24, 2013, 05:28:34 PM
Sorry mate she's a east to west and back if wanted , you could eat us at Mt dare and puck up the return trip ;D

Jet  :cheers:

Mt Dare sell food no need to eat us  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 24, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
East to West is still easy enough mate you will be fine.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: dooguss on August 24, 2013, 05:43:57 PM
Ok will if all are happy the trip will start at INAMINKA

Sounds good to me
Jet :D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 24, 2013, 07:00:44 PM
Mt Dare sell food no need to eat us  ;D ;D

Sharp as a tack mate I'll have to remember you don't miss a trick ;D ;D ;D

Jet ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 24, 2013, 07:11:08 PM
UPDATED WITH CHANGES


Day 1 -  Meet Inaminka
Day 2 -  Inaminka TO  B/Ville
Day 3 -  B/Ville. pre departure check and fuel up day etc look around ect
Day 4 -  B/Ville into simmo (QAA line to popel)
Day 5 -  Simmo (knolls track onto WAA line)
Day 6 -  Simmo (WAA line
Day 7 -  Simmo (French line)Purni bore
Day 8 -  Simmo  (french line) dallhousie
day 9 -   Mt dare
Day 10 - Mt Dare
Day 11 - SPARE
Day 12 Head back through Simmo French line onto RIG Road
Day 13 Simmo Macumbba oil well on RIG
Day 14 Simmo Poolwanna oil well on RIG
Day 15 Simmo Rig road onto K1 back to popell
Day 16 B/Ville
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 24, 2013, 07:36:16 PM
Sharp as a tack mate I'll have to remember you don't miss a trick ;D ;D ;D

Jet ;D

Most people who know me say Im sharp as a bowling ball, so a tac is an improvement ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Alan Loy on August 25, 2013, 07:10:47 AM
Looks good, I'm happy to leave this to experienced heads.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on August 25, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
Day 1 -  Meet Inaminka
Day 2 -  Inaminka TO  B/Ville
Day 3 -  B/Ville. pre departure check and fuel up day etc look around ect
Day 4 -  B/Ville into simmo (QAA line to popel)
Day 5 -  Simmo (knolls track onto WAA line)
Day 6 -  Simmo (WAA line
Day 7 -  Simmo (French line)Purni bore
Day 8 -  Simmo  (french line) dallhousie
day 9 -   Mt dare
Day 10 - Mt Dare
Day 11 - SPARE
Day 12 Head back through Simmo French line onto RIG Road
Day 13 Simmo Macumbba oil well on RIG
Day 14 Simmo Poolwanna oil well on RIG
Day 15 Simmo Rig road onto K1 back to popell
Day 16 B/Ville


Ok so we need to look at camp/accom options in the following locations

INAMINKA    1 NIGHT
B/VILLE        2 NIGHTS inwards /1 night outwards
MT DARE       2 NIGHTS


SIMMO    -  These nights will be where ever we decide to stop in a nice little spot along the track.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 25, 2013, 10:51:13 AM
Im hoping to have a good chat to some mates who have done the simpson several times next weekend so ill have more to offer then but Dalhousie is another option as everyone likes a swim in the hot springs although they do not allow fires there anymore :(
I think I read on here that the pub at Birdsville is far better than anything else on offer?

Mt Dare allows fires even though Dave is within the national park. 3 Oclock creek is also an option worth considering. I can tell you with certainty that the mozzies at Dalhousie are killers, they eat through clothes so bring some good repellant oh and did I mention the flues during the day??

For those that are leaving to go home and not crossing again, I wouldnt mind spending a night at the new accommodation at Hamilton Station purely to inject some money their way as they are fantastic people and saved me big time a few weeks ago.

Title: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Marcus73 on August 25, 2013, 12:48:55 PM
Im hoping to have a good chat to some mates who have done the simpson several times next weekend so ill have more to offer then but Dalhousie is another option as everyone likes a swim in the hot springs although they do not allow fires there anymore :(
I think I read on here that the pub at Birdsville is far better than anything else on offer?

Mt Dare allows fires even though Dave is within the national park. 3 Oclock creek is also an option worth considering. I can tell you with certainty that the mozzies at Dalhousie are killers, they eat through clothes so bring some good repellant oh and did I mention the flues during the day??

For those that are leaving to go home and not crossing again, I wouldnt mind spending a night at the new accommodation at Hamilton Station purely to inject some money their way as they are fantastic people and saved me big time a few weeks ago.

I doubt we'd be looking at crossing again, as seeing we're both going in the same direction and I have no idea about what's about, I'll probably just follow you.


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Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on August 25, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
I doubt we'd be looking at crossing again, as seeing we're both going in the same direction and I have no idea about what's about, I'll probably just follow you.


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Title: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Marcus73 on August 25, 2013, 01:53:03 PM

Only if you move any sticks that I might come across? ;D

I was willing to let that one go this time too


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Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Rumpig on August 25, 2013, 04:12:29 PM

I think I read on here that the pub at Birdsville is far better than anything else on offer?


yes the pub has nice accomodation, but the van park also has some cabins available aswell. the van park has both powered and unpowered sites available for those who want them also, either place is a good option to stay at IMHO.
as for the drive along Walkers Crossing Track from Innamincka to Birdsville mentioned earlier...in good conditions it's an easy day trip, we recently did it in 5 hours towing our camper trailer. we didn't stop off to visit stuff along the way (Wills grave etc) as we needed to get to Birdsville, but we did stop quite a few times to take pictures along the way, so it can be done even quicker then what we did it in if the need be done.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: cp on September 02, 2013, 01:41:19 PM
Just curious, anyone thinking about going to Uluru from Mt Dare?
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: dooguss on September 02, 2013, 04:25:48 PM
Cp we"d be in for that but I'd probably look at doing it on my way back I'm hoping to be out there for up to 6 weeks usung the rest of my long service leave
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: cp on September 05, 2013, 07:16:42 AM
No worries gregnleanne, was only thinking about it because my better half would like to see it, we'll save Uluru for another trip, Cheers
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: fuji on September 15, 2013, 04:34:47 PM
I think two nights at Birdsville is overkill. Spend one full day and you'll be right to head off. We arrived during the day, did our washing and looked around and the next day we were gone. I will do the one way trip if I can go and head to Chambers Pillars.
Wayne
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on September 30, 2013, 07:52:50 PM
Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up 
Day 5 B/Ville into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms turn right onto rig road 34kms turn right onto Erabena track 43 kms later turn left back onto French line.
Day 6 Simmo  French line
Day 7 Simmo French line
Day 8 Simmo French line
day 9  Mt dare
Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds)
Day 11 Mt Dare ( surrounds)
Day 12 Mt dare (surrounds)




Thoughts ;D ;D

d
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on September 30, 2013, 08:00:50 PM
Ok given the feedback and some great info from embers at the national meet I have adjusted the itinerary. I have shortened it so we can fit it into a 2 week trip for thoses who want toi bullet run or who want to go on with other things.

I planed this off the hema map so you can follow the route from that.

It means we get to see a bit of the southern end of the Simpson desert and get to see BIG red in daylight on our way thorough to B/ville and then come back for a sunset photo having seen the track.

It only involves 72ish kms of double tracking from Popell to B/ville.

3 nights hard camping followed by B/ville and then 4-5 nights hard camping before Mt dare. For thoses who wish to get out of dodge they can and the rest can plan a few days around the mt dare area.

This has NO RETURN X-ING, after speaking with a few people who have done the trip this itinerary gets us onto varied surfaces and vegetation and I think works well. But open to suggestions.   



PHASE 1
MON 25th  Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Tues 26   Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Wed 27   Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Thurs 28  Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up
673 KMS

PHASE 2
Fri 29       Day 5 B/V into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms R/T onto rig road 34kms R/T onto Erabena track 43 kms later L/T back onto French line.
Sat 30      Day 6 Simmo  French line
Sun 31     Day 7 Simmo French line
MON 01    Day 8 Simmo French line
Tues 02    Day 9  Mt dare
591 KMS

Wed 03    Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds)
Thurs 04  Day 11 Mt Dare ( surrounds)
Fri 05       Day 12 Mt dare (surrounds)
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on October 01, 2013, 10:34:10 AM
Looks good, the only thing I'd suggest is the first night after crossing, everyone might like to spend at Dalhousie to have a swim in the hot springs. There's no fires allowed there any more but that might change before then.

I'd be keen to do a trip out to old Andado Station again and spend some more time out there if anyone was keen. There are a lot of camping opportunities in the area.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: firefox on October 01, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
Hi Guys,
when we went across this year, we all planned to stay at Mr Dare. We all stayed back at Dallhouise... There's not alot at Mt Dare (nor nearby) and it's dusty and although has fuel and pub a single day trip is enough..

We crashed at Dallhouise for a few days was a much better option...

I'm considering joining this trip BTW.. Just don't know where we will be..
JD
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: fuji on October 01, 2013, 05:23:45 PM
Three days in Mount Dare? The only reason we went there is to fuel up. May I suggest taking longer to do the crossing. A quick visit to Mt Dare is more than enough. When I look back at our trip a few years ago, I feel as not enough time was spent out there in the wild. Yes it is only a desert but time goes real quick. I love it out there and would happily spend ten days from Big Red to Mt Dare.  ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on October 01, 2013, 05:27:23 PM
Sorry guys I did not explain it well I mean 3 days in the surrounding areas of mt dare not actually staying there , my bad I will fix it up.

Jet ;D :D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on October 01, 2013, 05:29:09 PM
I think by Mt Dare he means the general vicinity. There's a bit to look at that side of the Simpson :)
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on October 01, 2013, 05:34:11 PM
PHASE 1
MON 25th  Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Tues 26   Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Wed 27   Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Thurs 28  Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up
673 KMS

PHASE 2
Fri 29       Day 5 B/V into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms R/T onto rig road 34kms R/T onto Erabena track 43 kms later L/T back onto French line.
Sat 30      Day 6 Simmo  French line
Sun 31     Day 7 Simmo French line
MON 01    Day 8 Dalhousie springs or close
Tues 02    Day 9  Dalhousie springs - Mt Dare Stay or pass through
591 KMS

Wed 03    Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds) Looking for ideas suggestions in this area for the 3 nights
Thurs 04  Day 11 Mt Dare ( surrounds) as above
Fri 05       Day 12 Mt dare (surrounds) as above


The Kms look small each day but the aim is to enjoy the environment rather than do a bullet run, reports have 2-5 days as the allocated time to allow if cond are very good the 5 day trip will be at a very relaxed pace if conditions are bad then we will need the 5 days. So it makes sense to allow the 5 days.

So after leaving dalhouisie we can go into mt Dare and then push onto a nice place and have anothe 2 nights in that region ,Not taking people to far away from thier need to head home but as Danny G said there appears to be some great places within striking distance maybe even end up at oodndatta.

Jet ;D ;D 

Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Shoey on October 05, 2013, 07:41:32 AM
Sorry but i had trouble searching hema maps for Inaminka correct spelling is Innamincka
sorry to be a pain
cheers Shoey
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Shoey on October 05, 2013, 08:12:11 AM
I also have a suggestion if any one is interested you could also go to Chambers Pillar following the Binns track from Finke. This also follows the old Ghan rail line. theres plenty of camping and its about a 500K return trip or just home from there.
Just a thought
cheers shoey
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/Graham-Jilly/alice%20trip/IMG_2092.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Graham-Jilly/media/alice%20trip/IMG_2092.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: fuji on October 06, 2013, 06:01:29 AM
I also have a suggestion if any one is interested you could also go to Chambers Pillar following the Binns track from Finke. This also follows the old Ghan rail line. theres plenty of camping and its about a 500K return trip or just home from there.
Just a thought
cheers shoey
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/Graham-Jilly/alice%20trip/IMG_2092.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/Graham-Jilly/media/alice%20trip/IMG_2092.jpg.html)





Hopefully two days at Chambers Pillars for me if anyone is interested?
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on October 06, 2013, 09:59:06 AM
There are far to many individual travel plans to consider to cater for everything so just like previous Myswag trips the core 10-12 days will be planned as a trip and before and after that people can head off in all manner of directions.

Given that many people seem to be expressing an interest in moving further afield after the crossing the days may need to be capped at 10days for the official trip, this would give people a few days to move off and see something they like before heading home if they have only 2 weeks off work.

I am sure we will split into smaller groups with some heading north some west some south depending on their time available.

So How does everyone feel about making the actual X-ing trip 10 days it would look like this 

PHASE 1
MON 25th  Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Tues 26   Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Wed 27   Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Thurs 28  Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up ( look to do sunsett pics on big red)
673 KMS

PHASE 2
Fri 29       Day 5 B/V into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms R/T onto rig road 34kms R/T onto Erabena track 43 kms later L/T back onto French line.
Sat 30      Day 6 Simmo  French line ( camp to be confirmed)
Sun 31     Day 7 Simmo French line ( camp to be confirmed)
MON 01    Day 8 Dalhousie springs or close
Tues 02    Day 9  Dalhousie springs - Mt Dare (Stay or pass through)
Wed 03    Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds) Looking for ideas suggestions in this area for the last night  :cheers: :cheers:
591 KMS


So if people had to be back at work/home on the Monday they have 4 days to visit a personal preferred location on their way home or for others who are continuing on their adventure I am sure a few of us will stay hooked up can visit extra places.

Thoughts on the 10 Day version........  I think it makes more sense given there is just so much to see and do and some people will head home north some south ect so a few extra days will work out very well.

I am seeking feedback as I would like to lock in the core trip in the next few weeks  so we can then look at camping locations in each stop more closely.

Jet ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Alan Loy on October 06, 2013, 10:34:26 AM
Looks good!

Only question is 1 day at Birdsville enough?  (I have no idea not having been there)
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on October 06, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
Looks good!

Only question is 1 day at Birdsville enough?  (I have no idea not having been there)

Most said yes, so if we drive into town before lunch having driven up big red to sight the track we can drive into town look around set up camp fuel up and drive out for the sunset on big red as the photo op is very good i am told , maybe dinner at the pub and roll out next morning was my thoughts.

Jet ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Alan Loy on October 06, 2013, 12:25:37 PM
OK. 

I guess its a place I'm likely to go through a few times in the future  :cheers:
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: SteveandViv on October 06, 2013, 02:48:18 PM
Three days in Mount Dare? The only reason we went there is to fuel up. May I suggest taking longer to do the crossing. A quick visit to Mt Dare is more than enough. When I look back at our trip a few years ago, I feel as not enough time was spent out there in the wild. Yes it is only a desert but time goes real quick. I love it out there and would happily spend ten days from Big Red to Mt Dare.  ;D

Yes agree and having a hot swim at Dalhousie is better.
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: fuji on October 06, 2013, 03:59:06 PM
Looks good!

Only question is 1 day at Birdsville enough?  (I have no idea not having been there)


Hi Alan
We arrived at Birdsville during the day and the following is what we did apart from refuelling. Checked out the museum,bakery,the pub,the old police courthouse, had a chat with the local copper(ex vic police) and bought a book about Tom Kruse. Im sure there are a few other things in and around the area. But one day is enough IMO
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Shoey on October 06, 2013, 05:51:02 PM
All sounds good to us just looking forward to it.
we are currently Alice Springs and have been here the last 3 months so the areas around Alice have been well and truly visited by us and we have posted some pictures on the swag FB page.
were going to head south to the flinders rangers via fink mt dare and on south so saving the desert crossing for next year :)
Cheers Shoey and Jilly
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on October 10, 2013, 08:21:08 PM
PHASE 1
MON 25th  Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Tues 26   Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Wed 27   Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Thurs 28  Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up ( look to do sunsett pics on big red)
673 KMS

PHASE 2
Fri 29       Day 5 B/V into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms R/T onto rig road 34kms R/T onto Erabena track 43 kms later L/T back onto French line.
Sat 30      Day 6 Simmo  French line ( camp to be confirmed)
Sun 31     Day 7 Simmo French line ( camp to be confirmed)
MON 01    Day 8 Dalhousie springs or close
Tues 02    Day 9  Dalhousie springs - Mt Dare (Stay or pass through)
Wed 03    Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds) Looking for ideas suggestions in this area for the last night  :cheers: :cheers:
591 KMS


Going to look at locking the itinerary in by NOVEMBER so we have plenty of time to research and book places if required.

Jet ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: fuji on October 11, 2013, 07:05:15 AM
PHASE 1
MON 25th  Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Tues 26   Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Wed 27   Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Thurs 28  Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up ( look to do sunsett pics on big red)
673 KMS

PHASE 2
Fri 29       Day 5 B/V into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms R/T onto rig road 34kms R/T onto Erabena track 43 kms later L/T back onto French line.
Sat 30      Day 6 Simmo  French line ( camp to be confirmed)
Sun 31     Day 7 Simmo French line ( camp to be confirmed)
MON 01    Day 8 Dalhousie springs or close
Tues 02    Day 9  Dalhousie springs - Mt Dare (Stay or pass through)
Wed 03    Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds) Looking for ideas suggestions in this area for the last night  :cheers: :cheers:
591 KMS


Going to look at locking the itinerary in by NOVEMBER so we have plenty of time to research and book places if required.

Jet ;D






I think you would only have to book Birdsville C/P. everything is out in the middle of the desert. We went ay peak time. Not sure if you can book Dalhousie.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on October 11, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
If we are able to make this trip (we will make a final decision early next year) then we would be happy to take a group out to Old Andado Station. It is truly an amazing place and worth the drive out if you have already gone to the trouble of going all the way out to Mt Dare Hotel for a look.

There is a camp ground at the station which would be worth staying at overnight because by the time you drove along the Binns tracks to Old Andado, looked at Molly Clarkes homestead and then perhaps had a look at Mac Clarke reserve it would be too much to drive back to Mt Dare or Dalhousie in the one day IMHO.

The camping at the station is quite good actually. Its only dirt of course but there are flushing loo's and a shower/hot water set up and even some little rooms for accommodation if you like. Its all on an honesty system as well as taking any extra donations for looking through the homestead.

Check it out, I highly recommend it.........I also highly recommend having a look at the Pioneering Womens Museum in Alice for those that may head up that way. It ties the whole Molly Clarke experience in together and you get the full extent of this amazing lady.
And if that wasnt enough, if you ever stay at the Macdonnel Range Big 4 caravan park and you are lucky enough to be there on a night that Barry Skipsey does one of his photo and singing shows, you will get even more of an insight into Molly Clarke. Barry took quite a few of the pics you see on the Old Andado website.

Im starting to turn into a bloody historian!! Thats what travelling this great country is all about though I think. To learn about its great history :)

http://www.oldandado.com
http://www.pioneerwomen.com.au/index.php
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Shoey on December 05, 2013, 08:28:38 AM
We will be going but due to selling our campa trailer and purchasing a caravan (sorry gone to the dark side) we will be parking it at birdsville so will meet the group there if thats ok with everyone. we have recently became grey nomads hence the caravan purchase.
Old Andado station is definitely worth a visit as we stayed there this year. they also have dongas for rent if your sick of camping lol

cheers Graham and Jilly
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: areyonga on December 28, 2013, 07:40:19 AM
Im also considering this trip, is the return still happening as I am looking at being in Alice about that time and would be interested in doing the Simpson West to East.

Trevor
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on January 01, 2014, 04:27:29 PM
Im also considering this trip, is the return still happening as I am looking at being in Alice about that time and would be interested in doing the Simpson West to East.

Trevor

Trevor,

I have heard some rumblings of people that might be crossing back west to east after the trip is over.  For many people I think it is all a matter of time. after we cross then people will generally break off into smaller groups and head off to various other destinations.

I have loosely planned to visit the rock and head home through Alice springs, but the Mrs keeps changing her mind so i may come back through west to east as its the quickest way home. If I am only out there for 2-3weeks.

Races will be on at B/Ville so will just play it by ear, I think most people are still undecided on their exact plans before and after the trip dates but as we get closer I think people including myself will lock things in. So others can also plan and decide . 

Glad to have you on board :cup:

jet ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: areyonga on January 01, 2014, 04:39:56 PM
Trevor,

I have heard some rumblings of people that might be crossing back west to east after the trip is over.  For many people I think it is all a matter of time. after we cross then people will generally break off into smaller groups and head off to various other destinations.

I have loosely planned to visit the rock and head home through Alice springs, but the Mrs keeps changing her mind so i may come back through west to east as its the quickest way home. If I am only out there for 2-3weeks.

Races will be on at B/Ville so will just play it by ear, I think most people are still undecided on their exact plans before and after the trip dates but as we get closer I think people including myself will lock things in. So others can also plan and decide . 

Glad to have you on board :cup:

jet ;D ;D

Thanks, but after wifey realised the Races were on she has put her food down with a firm hand and said she doesnt want to be anywhere near Birdsville then, so we would look at the East to West trip in the dates identified.

Trevor :angel:
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on January 01, 2014, 05:19:27 PM
Thanks, but after wifey realised the Races were on she has put her food down with a firm hand and said she doesnt want to be anywhere near Birdsville then, so we would look at the East to West trip in the dates identified.

Trevor :angel:

Smart Lady your wife ;D ;D ;D if we come back it will be out the bottom end back to Inaminka the same way we went in  no going near the mayhem.

Jet ;D ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: jetcrew on February 01, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
PHASE 1
MON 25th  Day 1 -Meet Inaminka
Tues 26   Day 2 Inaminka to Warburton crossing 250-300K
Wed 27   Day 3 - Warburton X-ing via Warburton track onto K1 to Poppel Corner ( Camp somewher on the K1 line)
Thurs 28  Day 4 - Poppel to B/Ville via QAA Arrive before lunch spend afternoon refuel ect load up ( look to do sunsett pics on big red)
673 KMS

PHASE 2
Fri 29       Day 5 B/V into simmo (QAA line to popel -onto FRN 40kms then left turn onto Knolls track 43kms R/T onto rig road 34kms R/T onto Erabena track 43 kms later L/T back onto French line.
Sat 30      Day 6 Simmo  French line ( camp to be confirmed)
Sun 31     Day 7 Simmo French line ( camp to be confirmed)
MON 01    Day 8 Dalhousie springs or close
Tues 02    Day 9  Dalhousie springs - Mt Dare (Stay or pass through)
Wed 03    Day 10 Mt dare (surrounds) Looking for ideas suggestions in this area for the last night  :cheers: :cheers:
591 KMS


Going to look at locking the itinerary in by NOVEMBER so we have plenty of time to research and book places if required.

Jet ;D

Any feedback on this from starters will look at locking in soon so we can do the research on areas to stay, if anyone wants to help out with that please feel free always happy to have a hand  ;D ;D If you know a top spot that lines up with the itinerary shout out as i have never been out there before.

Jet ;D ;D
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: Rumpig on February 01, 2014, 06:32:49 PM

Hi Alan
We arrived at Birdsville during the day and the following is what we did apart from refuelling. Checked out the museum,bakery,the pub,the old police courthouse, had a chat with the local copper(ex vic police) and bought a book about Tom Kruse. Im sure there are a few other things in and around the area. But one day is enough IMO
you could also arrange to do the tour at 2 boys dreaming site (ask at info centre for Don's contact number, he's a local elder that does a free guided tour of sorts there, though you need atleast 4 people from memory), go up in a plane and see The Simpson from the air, check out the bore for the water supply in town, go see the Burke and Wills Tree (yes there's one at Birdsville also), check out the race track, cross the old Diamantina bridge and even go see the dingo caves aswell, not to mention having a sunset drinks and nibbles or bbq on top of Big Red.
we spent 3 nights in Birdsville last year (we did arrive at sunset one night though), was a great change from spending just the one night there after a run across the desert  8)
Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: wysiwugsc on February 05, 2014, 07:38:01 PM
Hi all.
Jo and I would just like to confirm that we will be coming along.  i have been a bit distracted over the last several months and have not had time to catch up on the chatter.  It seems that the base plane is in place and it looks good to us.  We will be using a well kitted out 105 Cruiser for the trip and have a rooftop for accommodation. Since this was first started our situation had hanged somewhat and it may be that we have to join the main group along the track.  We will keep you posted. After reading the posts there seems to be nothing that we have to prepay/ book before we leave.  if i have missed something could someone let me know.

I would be keen on the Chambers Piller side trip but where we go after the event is unclear at this time.

It looks like it is shaping up to be a great adventure and we are looking forward to it. 
We are currently working on Moreton Island in Qld so if there are others in the Brisbane area that are attending the gathering perhaps we could have a get together before the start date.

Cheers and beers

Peter  and Jo
wysiwugsc

Title: Re: Itinerary ideas here
Post by: DannyG on May 31, 2014, 10:39:14 AM
Just having a good look at the itinerary again and my 'wife' and I may meet everyone to do phase 2 of the trip....the actual crossing. We haven't got together to confirm this but time constraints (work commitments) may limit us that few extra days prior.
If we have extra days id prefer to spend them on the other side showing her...him old andando station and surrounds.
But we will confirm this over the next week or so.