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Title: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: alnjan on December 13, 2018, 02:49:31 PM
NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Technical Specification applicable in NSW during
the exemption period
(Extended until September 2019)

https://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/bull-bar-tolerances.pdf

Has a lot of diagrams in it to try and explain what will be Acceptable and Unacceptable. 

Those with an old straight bar that doesn't curve to the shape of the vehicle may be in trouble.   

Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Bird on December 13, 2018, 04:55:24 PM
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Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: alnjan on December 13, 2018, 06:48:20 PM
Might come to that Bird, just depends how people want to interpret things to get what they want
 
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: gronk on December 13, 2018, 06:52:19 PM
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No popcorn needed....if your bar looks similar to an UNacceptable one....get the tape measure out and check..
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Pete79 on December 14, 2018, 06:29:09 AM
Well I for one are outraged..!!!

No more ridiculously over sized 5 post bullbars on commodore utes...???

What’s next.? Banning massive bullhorn stickers covering the whole rear window?
Or outlawing CAT mudflaps or setting a limit of no more then 5 or 6 antennas hanging off a commodore Ute..??

Bloody outrage I tell you...
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: doc evil on December 14, 2018, 08:43:27 AM
I'd be worried if I owned a 40 series...………..
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Paddler Ed on December 14, 2018, 09:07:46 AM
I'd be worried if I owned a 40 series...………..

Pretty sure that my HJ45 only has to comply with a smattering of the ADRs that are referenced, so that's fine... ADR's that your vehicle needs to comply with are on the compliance plate.
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Pete79 on December 14, 2018, 09:29:00 AM
I'd be worried if I owned a 40 series...………..

I could be reading this wrong, but my take is that the new regulations only apply to vehicles manufactured after 2002.

Quote
Vehicle frontal protection systems (VFPS) – which includes bull bars, nudge bars and
similar devices – fitted to vehicles in NSW must comply with vehicle safety standards
specified in the Australian Design Rules and the Road Transport (Vehicle
Registration) Regulation 2017. Among general requirements for protrusions, the
Regulation requires that VFPS fitted to vehicle models first manufactured after 31
December 2002 comply with the Australian Standard AS 4876.1
–2002 Motor vehicle
frontal protection systems Part 1: Road user protection (except Clause 3.2, “Road
user protection criterion”).
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Bird on December 14, 2018, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: Pete79
I could be reading this wrong, but my take is that the new regulations only apply to vehicles manufactured after 2002.
still a few 100,000 vehicles...

havent read it but is this 'moving forward', or back dated
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: chester ver2.0 on December 14, 2018, 11:10:02 AM
come on guys we all know these rules only apply to one type of vehicle
Yep a commodore ute with the bullbar from a Mack truck bolted up front
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Bird on December 14, 2018, 11:40:02 AM
come on guys we all know these rules only apply to one type of vehicle
Yep a commodore ute with the bullbar from a Mack truck bolted up front
theres an old bloke around work here with one of them mack truck bars on a 150 prado... with double siderails the works.
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Hoyks on December 14, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
theres an old bloke around work here with one of them mack truck bars on a 150 prado... with double siderails the works.

Drive up to Toowoomba and every 3rd 4WD has one. All meet the standard by all accounts. I still wouldn't want to wear one in the small of the back, or any vehicle for that matter.

(https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/uploads/shopEasy/products/images/a6zcqidtzm.jpg)
https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/products/our-range/view/628/82/our-range/bullbars/4-post-bullbar (https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/products/our-range/view/628/82/our-range/bullbars/4-post-bullbar)
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Spada on December 14, 2018, 11:57:29 AM
hopefully it will mean the end of this sort of crap

Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 14, 2018, 12:00:11 PM


Drive up to Toowoomba and every 3rd 4WD has one. All meet the standard by all accounts. I still wouldn't want to wear one in the small of the back, or any vehicle for that matter.

(https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/uploads/shopEasy/products/images/a6zcqidtzm.jpg)
https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/products/our-range/view/628/82/our-range/bullbars/4-post-bullbar (https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/products/our-range/view/628/82/our-range/bullbars/4-post-bullbar)
Put em over a weighbridge and see how they get on!!!
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Bird on December 14, 2018, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: Hoyks
Drive up to Toowoomba and every 3rd 4WD has one. All meet the standard by all accounts. I still wouldn't want to wear one in the small of the back, or any vehicle for that matter.
I'd be more worried about the 2+ ton of car at 60kph.
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Pete79 on December 14, 2018, 05:16:33 PM
Drive up to Toowoomba and every 3rd 4WD has one. All meet the standard by all accounts. I still wouldn't want to wear one in the small of the back, or any vehicle for that matter.

(https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/uploads/shopEasy/products/images/a6zcqidtzm.jpg)
https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/products/our-range/view/628/82/our-range/bullbars/4-post-bullbar (https://www.tuffbullbars.com.au/products/our-range/view/628/82/our-range/bullbars/4-post-bullbar)
I was working on a project in Toowoomba a couple of years ago and had site meetings every week for about 4 months.
Toowoomba is hands down the ridiculously oversized bullbar capital of Australia. No question.

And those tuff bars are all for show.
They’re just thin gauge alloy.
Look ‘tuff’ but don’t help bugger all in the event of an animal strike.
Title: Re: NSW: Bull bar tolerances and conditions
Post by: Foo on December 14, 2018, 05:49:51 PM
Well I for one are outraged..!!!

No more ridiculously over sized 5 post bullbars on commodore utes...???

What’s next.? Banning massive bullhorn stickers covering the whole rear window?
Or outlawing CAT, Mack, Kenworth or even Isuzu mudflaps or setting a limit of no more then 5 or 6 antennas hanging off a commodore Ute and the 54 gazillion centre metre LED light bar and a dozen 200mm Light Force Bull Lights..??

Bloody outrage I tell you...

Fixed that little mistake ;D

Foo