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Title: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: edz on September 27, 2020, 11:18:02 AM
Pulled this from a FB feed. Used to be quite a few dolly set ups on vans around when I was a kid.. Most fell by the way side over the years ..
O'l mate here had the chassis buit to his specs the a company did the van body .. Been travelling for many many years  without troubles, From what I gather his father had built  a similar set up and he is carrying it on, with his build .
Thought these pics would be of interest to some ..
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: GeoffA on September 27, 2020, 12:08:12 PM
Yeah, I remember 50-60 years ago my uncle had one similar to the one behind the effie.

I also remember my dad saying it was a sh*t of a thing.... ;D ;D

 :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 27, 2020, 03:10:10 PM
Circus caravans were like that from years ago.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Bird on September 27, 2020, 04:50:55 PM
seen that first one at the Grampians few years back... hideous lookin thing!
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Fizzie on September 27, 2020, 05:01:47 PM
Would be interesting watching one reverse onto a tight site! >:D
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: edz on September 27, 2020, 10:36:02 PM
I guess truckies have no dramas reversing dog trailers  or road trains, Have seen plenty of them put trailers into tight spots over the years .. Like anything learn it keep practiced and its not a problem .
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: GBC on September 28, 2020, 02:40:36 AM
For accuracy, the top two are dog trailers and the last one is a 5th wheel converter dolly. I’m not sure that converters are allowed behind cars over here. They are common enough in the states. I’d think you’d need to run it as an articulated truck rego here and then have a MC license or some equally crazy thing which wouldn’t be cheap. It is a great way of getting rid of a turntable from a Ute IMHO.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Troopy_03 on September 28, 2020, 09:42:36 AM
I guess truckies have no dramas reversing dog trailers  or road trains, Have seen plenty of them put trailers into tight spots over the years .. Like anything learn it keep practiced and its not a problem .

Yep, and much more manouverable. Watched a truckie reverse out of the work driveway, left into the road, between cars parked both sides, then right into another road so he could turn around. Had inches to spare both sides at different times, and didn't hit anything. I had moved my troopy when I came out for lunch and saw him getting ready to leave, just in case.

But we used to reveres jet aircraft, with nose wheel connected to the tow bar, around corners and into hangers, with at times, only inches to spare. We did have the luxury of wing walkers though, just so we didn't dent a multi million dollar vehicle LOL
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: jclures on September 28, 2020, 02:25:59 PM
Many years ago we had a Ingersoll Rand Compressor with that configuration, We just towed it like any other trailer, no special licence needed those days.
It takes the weight of the draw bar though.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Pottsy on September 29, 2020, 01:19:33 PM
Check this 70s unit out
 https://www.motor1.com/news/446241/shadow-roof-mount-car-rv-trailer/ (https://www.motor1.com/news/446241/shadow-roof-mount-car-rv-trailer/)
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: #jonesy on September 29, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
That is scary on so many levels.  Not just the engineering, but the decor.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Bigpickle on September 29, 2020, 06:13:21 PM
Check this 70s unit out
 https://www.motor1.com/news/446241/shadow-roof-mount-car-rv-trailer/ (https://www.motor1.com/news/446241/shadow-roof-mount-car-rv-trailer/)

I wonder how something like this would go with the modern day dual cab utes. An engineered frame could be set up on the ute with the receiver hitch mounted just behind the cab.
Could be an interesting exercise.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Pottsy on September 29, 2020, 06:46:31 PM
It just reminded me of the Griswolds in National Lampoons Vacation, can just see Sparky at the wheel.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Bigpickle on September 29, 2020, 06:52:16 PM
Back in the early 1970's I bought my first caravan. It was a 28' Millard and I owned a Austin 1800 at the time. No way to tow the van. I had it in a park in Mandurah WA and needed to get it to Manjimup for work. A guy at the park offered to tow it for me and I jumped at the offer.
He was a Victorian guy who was a caravan builder from Ballarat. Name was Bill and he was towing his van around Australia with wife and kids on a working holiday.
His tow vehicle was a V8 Falcon and he was using a two wheel dolly. Told me he never had a problem.
Anyway he towed my van to Manjimup and set me up in the Council CP with the Falcon and the dolly.
So they were still in use almost 50 years ago (bloody hell, is it that long).
I saw one on a van in Emereld Qld on 16 Jan 2014. An Effy was the tow truck
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: edz on September 29, 2020, 10:54:43 PM
Thats O'l Mate in the pic I put up above ..
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Fizzie on September 30, 2020, 06:52:59 AM
I wonder how something like this would go with the modern day dual cab utes.

I was wondering the same thing but with regard to how much force it must be pulling on the roof with ???

Most cars these days only have ~70-80 kg allowance for loading on roof racks, & you'd have to think that there'd be one hell of a lot more than 80kg involved in towing that thing via your roof ???
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: Bigpickle on September 30, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
Thats O'l Mate in the pic I put up above ..
Correct, though I never realised when I posted.
The outfit was in the Emerald Caravan and Cabin Village when I got the photo but I never spoke to the owner.
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: GBC on September 30, 2020, 09:31:05 AM
vw beetle and gooseneck trailer setup from the 70's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpwH9WeVEfU
Title: Re: Van / trailer Dolly wheel set up .
Post by: camdyson on October 01, 2020, 04:02:12 PM
Ah the 70's - before the effects of LSD had completely faded.....