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Title: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: corndog on December 23, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
Time to change my power and gas retailer. Just interested in who has changed recently and to where.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: lloydus67 on December 23, 2018, 01:22:58 PM
If you have solar, origin is offering 20c / kw input tariffs
Next best I am aware of is 13c


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Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: JD-120 on December 23, 2018, 01:23:36 PM
I signed up to alinta from origin. Day before it cut over origin called me with a better deal and $50 credit.

I stayed with origin.

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Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Paddler Ed on December 23, 2018, 01:36:05 PM
Have a look on https://www.energymadeeasy.gov.au/ (https://www.energymadeeasy.gov.au/) and then go to the individual websites if they look cheap enough

There's also one from the VIC government (as well as each of the other states)
https://compare.energy.vic.gov.au/ (https://compare.energy.vic.gov.au/)

Ed
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Bird on December 23, 2018, 02:14:00 PM
DONT go with Lumo.. ****in nightmare with their billing and nobody to talk to.

who are you currently with

I'll watch this thread, but Im thinking its just easier to go with the big names.. their Shit works
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Hoyks on December 23, 2018, 03:31:21 PM
I swapped from Click to Red Energy using the Energy Made Easy website ^^^.


Click were OK and had a monthly installment with quarterly bills and pay on time discounts. Only reason I swapped was that their 1/4 bills were really hard to fathom with installments amounts not actually being the paid amounts. Wasn't a huge issue for me, but then I'd send my power bills into my employer for re-reimbursement and they couldn't work them out, so I changed billers and will hopefully save some $$.

They are sneaky bastards though, have a good look at what the supply charges are. Some will give you a cracking kW price and good feed in tariff, but they jack up the daily supply charges and erode any potential saving you may be getting.
On an average day the FIT our 3kW system was barely covering our daily supply charges.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: corndog on December 23, 2018, 03:42:05 PM
I've been with AGL. Have 44% discount on electricity, 11.3c on solar and 34% discount on gas. Just received an email about electricity. Same rates but down to 27% discount. They must think their doing me a favour. Have checked one comparison site and put Sumo in front of an AGL plan (better than they offered me) and then Red Energy. And your right, they are the shiftiest bunch of bastards around.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Paddler Ed on December 23, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
We're on Red Energy as well - we have a very low daily use, less than 5KW a day on average, so finding one with a low daily supply was important.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Alan Loy on December 23, 2018, 06:48:45 PM
They all quote % discounts.  Are they discounting from the same price?
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: corndog on December 23, 2018, 07:26:06 PM
Only price that looks similar is the feedback rate. Then that changes between them too.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Fizzie on December 24, 2018, 09:40:16 AM
We've been with Diamond Energy for ~18 months - good rates & FiT if you have solar, plus an Aussie call-centre! :cup:

https://diamondenergy.com.au/ (https://diamondenergy.com.au/)
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Poita on December 24, 2018, 10:39:54 AM
We are with Red Energy as well. Australian owned and their support is great with no accents! Been very happy with them. 16c feedin
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Bird on December 28, 2018, 08:56:45 AM
Quote from: corndog
. Have checked one comparison site and put Sumo in front of an AGL plan (better than they offered me) and then Red Energy. And your right, they are the shiftiest bunch of bastards around.
Sumo admits luring consumers with cheap deals then upping power prices 70%

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/sumo-admits-luring-consumers-with-cheap-deals-then-upping-power-prices-20181227-p50oe7.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/sumo-admits-luring-consumers-with-cheap-deals-then-upping-power-prices-20181227-p50oe7.html)
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: grmas1 on December 28, 2018, 01:39:47 PM
Am with Mojo at the moment only power but the rates are awesome. Not available in all states yet but very good deal all round. I think NSW and QLD only.

https://www.mojopower.com.au/ (https://www.mojopower.com.au/)
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Bird on July 22, 2020, 01:25:36 PM
Who is everyone with now, and is there any advantage of gas/elect with 1 supplier as I have to change bills into my name, may as well see how hard/painful to change...

thoughts??
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Beachman on July 22, 2020, 02:09:27 PM
18 months ago I did a spreadsheet up (Which is now out of date) comparing most companies who service QLD. Have to say it’s a nightmare as they all offer/charge different rates

So have low tariffs, but a high supply charge
Some have low supply charge, but high tariffs
Some have average tariffs and supply charges
Some give low tariffs and supply charges until you add Solar then you get a special expensive charges (Origin)
With solar some have high buy back, but cap the amount you can feed back
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: xcvator on July 22, 2020, 03:00:31 PM
https://www.energy.gov.au/victorian-energy-compare (https://www.energy.gov.au/victorian-energy-compare)
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Bird on July 22, 2020, 03:23:52 PM
Quote from: Beachman
18 months ago I did a spreadsheet up (Which is now out of date) comparing most companies who service QLD. Have to say it’s a nightmare as they all offer/charge different rates
Yep... did a couple of compare sites, and the figures they give me are nowhere near what I put in there and pay now.


Quote from: xcvator
Gov Co site with best intentions but still ****ing confusing and useless  (https://www.energy.gov.au/victorian-energy-compare)
did that = blind lesbian + fish market


also so many companies I've never heard of which always concerns me.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: xcvator on July 22, 2020, 04:04:29 PM
Yep... did a couple of compare sites, and the figures they give me are nowhere near what I put in there and pay now.

did that = blind lesbian + fish market


also so many companies I've never heard of which always concerns me.
We went with Tango, never heard of them before that, they all get the same power from the same places.Tango has a flat rate, no discount crap, all the others you don't know what you'll pay untill you get a bill, are they the cheapest, flucked if I know.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Bird on July 22, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
We went with Tango, never heard of them before that, they all get the same power from the same places.Tango has a flat rate, no discount crap, all the others you don't know what you'll pay untill you get a bill, are they the cheapest, flucked if I know.
orange came out cheapest on one compare glowbird second cheapest....
- and AGL much more expensive,
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: lloydus67 on July 22, 2020, 04:40:18 PM
I went with redenergy
For 3 reasons
1 energy Australia put up my charge rate 2c kw/h and pay back rate down by 4c per Kw/h on my solar
2 red energy charges 2c less than my old rate (so a saving of 6c per Kw/h) and solar is 6c better for the first 5Kw/h then drops to the same rate
3 redenergy also gave me 40000 Qantas points
Not the cheapest but across the board seems to be best for my circumstances


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Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Pete79 on July 22, 2020, 05:39:27 PM
I just signed up with ON. It’s a new online only devision of Energy Australia.
All rates fixed for 12 month.

* 18c solar feed in (caped at 8kw feed in but can have up to 30kw system on the roof).
* 24.92c/kWh Flat rate (we don’t have different tariffs in this part of the world).
* 99c/day supply charge.

About 4c less per day and 6c/kWh cheaper then my previous contract with Energy Australia.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: gronk on July 22, 2020, 06:00:39 PM
I just signed up with ON. It’s a new online only devision of Energy Australia.
All rates fixed for 12 month.

* 18c solar feed in (caped at 8kw feed in but can have up to 30kw system on the roof).
* 24.92c/kWh Flat rate (we don’t have different tariffs in this part of the world).
* 99c/day supply charge.

About 4c less per day and 6c/kWh cheaper then my previous contract with Energy Australia.

I'm with Origin.  We have timed meters.

*Peak...54.8 /kwh
*Shoulder...24.6 /kwh
* Off peak...14.9 /kwh
* Supply charge..$1.00 /day
* 29% discount on usage and supply charges

As you can see, the numbers can be very close with a lot of the companies, especially now with online websites to keep them honest.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: loanrangie on July 23, 2020, 12:38:58 PM
I'm with Lumo and i'm over their bullShit and offshore garbled lack of customer circus, my bloody gas bill is 6 times higher than the last one and no one will give me a straight answer why.
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: Bird on July 23, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
So after a bit of intercoursing around, I'm looking to change companies, but not sure how to go about it with no down time/outages or double billing.

Currently with Lumo and Origin - and want to change to 1 company for both.
Do I sign up with new company first, then cancel the others - or I've been told they cancel automatically (sounds incorrect to me).

I don't want to end up getting 2 bills for gas and 2 for electric (if thats possible)

Once you sign with new company - how long does the transfer take, is it pretty much instantly?

Anyone been through this recently?
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: xcvator on July 23, 2020, 05:42:01 PM
Pick up your phone
Call the company you want to go too
Done, that's it, they do the rest
Title: Re: Power and Gas retailers
Post by: gronk on July 23, 2020, 05:45:53 PM


Anyone been through this recently?

Have changed companies several times in the last 12 mths. Was with Origin...get a call from Energy Aus....offering cheaper prices...1 week later get a call from Origin and they ask why are you leaving us ? They offer a better price so I go back with them. In the meantime, no transfer had actually taken place, but if it had, it's all easy and painless. Whichever company you change to, they contact your present company and do all the legwork.
1st thing you always do is ask for their c/kwh or c/Mj charge, then what % they are going to give off your total usage and supply charge ? You can check all of that online before even talking to one of them.