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Title: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: BeeGee on October 18, 2019, 01:24:38 PM
H guys,

I'm looking to upgrade my 2007 NS Pajero DiD to either a Discovery 4 SDV6/TDV6 or a LC200 Landcruiser.
I absolutely love my Pajero and it smashes it in the rough stuff but a growing family of 6 needs something a bit bigger.

The main drivers for my upgrade from the Pajero are:
1. Intrusive cabin noise in the Paj from engine, tyres and road is doing my wife's head in (she daily drives the Paj and claims the drone is affecting her hearing);
2. Lack of 3rd row seat space in my Pajero as the kids are getting bigger (family of 6). The kids fight over who has to go in the dreaded 3rd row!;
3. Lack of aircon in the 2nd and 3rd rows of my Pajero. Recently at an outback station (Wooleen) in north WA @ 39 degrees the kids were very hot in both the 2nd and worse in the 3rd row;
4. Lack of Pajero's towing power to pull my Jayco Swan Outback when fully loaded.  Don't get me wrong, tows fine at 97-98km/hr but takes forever to get up to speed and overtaking is near impossible if someone is going slower in front.

The Disco4 ticks all of those boxes and more.  However, I'm concerned about it's reliability in remote areas, the small duel tank (only 82L) and the potentially poor sand ability of the D4 due to the low profile tyres in both 19" and 20" varieties. I normally bag out my 17"s on my Pajero to 15lb or even 10lb and it's pretty unstoppable in the sand.  However, the Disco4 has lots of space even in the 3rd row and love the thought of 600Nm for towing.

The Landcuiser LC200 is a beast and can do everything I'm sure. large fuel tank (138L), 650Nm towing, large 3rd row seats etc. But it's a bit of a tractor for my wife to daily drive around the city and to work. I'm also not a fan how the 3rd row seats just fold to the side and take up valuable space. Also a bit more diesel hungry than the D4.

My brain tells me LC200 which will do all the 4WDing we need and more. My heart tells me the D4 for the 3rd row seats. But not sure I can get over the 19" low profile tyres on the D4 and the lack of sand driving ability.

Any thoughts on those that have been down this path appreciated.  thanks

Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Bird on October 18, 2019, 01:29:47 PM
have you driven any of them.
That usually really quickly helps make up your mind what will suit you best.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Pete79 on October 18, 2019, 01:30:31 PM
I'd go the Disco myself.

From what I've seen they go better on the sand then the 200s.
The Disco being 400kg lighter probably has something to do with it... ;)  :angel:
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: lloydus67 on October 18, 2019, 01:37:53 PM
Take them both for a drive, big negative for the disco is nigleing breakdowns not show stoppers, but issues none the less and woeful boot space
Pros, way more affordable than the lc200


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 18, 2019, 03:18:37 PM
Something I would consider would be the GVM as well, not sure what it is in the D4 but with a full passenger load and some bits on the 200 a GVM upgrade will be needed for sure. I would say the 200 although I am biased and extremely happy with mine

GG
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 18, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
There are some affordable wheels for the D4 available now to enable 18s and plenty of suitable tyres.

I own a D4 and wouldn’t have anything else.  I drive 200s at work and wallowing, over rated, thirsty all spring to mind.

A well serviced D4 will be a reliable unit.

My unit and several friends with them haven’t had a problem in all sorts of terrain and travel.


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: BeeGee on October 18, 2019, 04:11:38 PM
have you driven any of them.
That usually really quickly helps make up your mind what will suit you best.

Thanks. I've driven an LC200 so far but soon to test drive the D4.  The LC200 was large, torquey, very quiet but a bit wallowy, but nice to drive.  I'm expecting the D4 to be a bit more lice a limo and less wallowy.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: BeeGee on October 18, 2019, 04:12:46 PM
I'd go the Disco myself.

From what I've seen they go better on the sand then the 200s.
The Disco being 400kg lighter probably has something to do with it... ;)  :angel:

That's good to hear.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: BeeGee on October 18, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
Something I would consider would be the GVM as well, not sure what it is in the D4 but with a full passenger load and some bits on the 200 a GVM upgrade will be needed for sure. I would say the 200 although I am biased and extremely happy with mine

GG

Thanks. Payload of LC200 is 665kg and D4 is 754 so the D4 has an extra 89kg payload.  Good to see GVM upgrade options out there for the LC200 after a quick google.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: BeeGee on October 18, 2019, 04:16:05 PM
There are some affordable wheels for the D4 available now to enable 18s and plenty of suitable tyres.

I own a D4 and wouldn’t have anything else.  I drive 200s at work and wallowing, over rated, thirsty all spring to mind.

A well serviced D4 will be a reliable unit.

My unit and several friends with them haven’t had a problem in all sorts of terrain and travel.


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Good to hear.  I have heard some good stories about the D4 which alleviates some of my concerns, but not all.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 18, 2019, 05:27:47 PM
Thanks. Payload of LC200 is 665kg and D4 is 754 so the D4 has an extra 89kg payload.  Good to see GVM upgrade options out there for the LC200 after a quick google.

GVM upgrades for D4s are also available.


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: shrek4 on October 18, 2019, 05:27:50 PM
Looking to upgrade from our 2010 Pajero and top of my list at the moment is the new yet to be released series 5 Nissan Patrol.


I took one for a test drive earlier this week and all I can say is “wow”!


The petrol V8 is a bit thirsty but real world figures (rowing) are around 21-22 per 100km. In my extensive online research it is very similar to the LC200 diesel. City and country driving (without towing) is lower (12-15L).
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 18, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
Good to hear.  I have heard some good stories about the D4 which alleviates some of my concerns, but not all.

As I mentioned earlier, I have LRs at home, have had all the earlier units, a few Defenders etc.

Never had any moments with them.

The D4 had a small trim repair under warranty and that’s all.  It tows, goes “real” offroad regularly and hasn’t set a foot wrong in 8 years.

I use Toyota’s for work, drive daily and I look after my work vehicles.  They are more problematic than my LRs have ever been.


I’m sure you’ll find something you like.  As one post said, don’t discount a Y62 - better than a Cruiser in every way.


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Bird on October 18, 2019, 06:43:43 PM
We have a club member who had a Disco, went into limp mode during week 1 of a 2 mth trip... got repaired, went into limp again, cancelled trip as he lost the trust in it, and traded it in on a 200....

Was happy had a few niggles with it too - but now its too big for his purpose (kids not keen on camping) and hes totally lost on what to buy... in his words, everything has too much bullShit technology in it now..
Maybe a FJ40 LMAO

Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: speewa158 on October 18, 2019, 07:02:09 PM
Going from A Paj to a Disco  could be fun . Have you considered profile of the Disco tyres to handle sand running  ? The Disco could also be interesting  to consider the waiting time for the Flat Bed Truck  to proceed your journey . l must confess l am in my 4th Paj as they just get better  .
l am at present at home  cleaning Red dust from Paj & Exodus 14  after 14Ks  . Nagambie  to Port Headland to Come By Chance  ( NSW )Nagambie  mostly on Dirt  . Your choice   Enjoy  :cup:
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: gronk on October 18, 2019, 07:09:45 PM



The petrol V8 is a bit thirsty but real world figures are around 21-22 per 100km. In my extensive online research it is very similar to then LC200. City and country driving is much lower.

That would be comparing to a petrol 200 series ! The Patrol is a good 4wd, but not sure I could go worse fuel figures than my 200 series ( diesel )
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: shrek4 on October 18, 2019, 08:01:55 PM
I updated my post (above). Those numbers were towing and yes, was comparing to a diesel LC200.
That said and done, not wanting to take this thread off topic. Just offering up an alternate option.


I’m sure every vehicle has its fans and haters. Each to their own. Certainly no judgement from me.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 18, 2019, 08:08:15 PM
Going from A Paj to a Disco  could be fun . Have you considered profile of the Disco tyres to handle sand running  ? The Disco could also be interesting  to consider the waiting time for the Flat Bed Truck  to proceed your journey . l must confess l am in my 4th Paj as they just get better  .
l am at present at home  cleaning Red dust from Paj & Exodus 14  after 14Ks  . Nagambie  to Port Headland to Come By Chance  ( NSW )Nagambie  mostly on Dirt  . Your choice   Enjoy  :cup:

See that’s the good part a D4 doesn’t let the dust in, the cabin and doors are IP rated

Your veiled stab at wait times is laughable, of the 145,000km on my D4 - 100,000km would easily be offroad specific.

It’s been the only vehicle on many trips to have no problems at all - including tyres.



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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: MrCruza on October 19, 2019, 09:51:13 AM
I went from a Paj to a 200 series and I'm very happy :) Sure the 200 is not in the same league as the Paj for a town car; it's much bigger and more truck like to drive and maneuver and parking can be a hassle.

However I didn't buy it for a daily driver. As a tourer / tug it's in a class of it's own. Far quieter, smoother, more relaxed than the Paj. Overtaking, even with the van on the back, is not a problem.

Fuel consumption? Mine gets used mainly as a tourer and weekend offroad machine. It's heavy, it doesn't get babied  >:D 
My average over approx 70,000ks is 16.8Lt/100. Best is 13.8, worst is 22.5.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: gronk on October 19, 2019, 02:38:33 PM


It’s been the only vehicle on many trips to have no problems at all - including tyres.



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A bit like the Jeeps.....they do make a few that have no problems.
The hard part is making nearly ALL of them trouble free.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: GBC on October 19, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
Towing in soft sand you are going to need less than 19/20 inch wheels. There is no getting around that. I drag them out regularly on the islands around here. Get higher volume tyres under a D4 and it will tick many boxes.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 20, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
A bit like the Jeeps.....they do make a few that have no problems.
The hard part is making nearly ALL of them trouble free.   ;D ;D

Toyota hasn’t managed it, Nor Nissan or Mitsubishi.....
And the first 2 are getting worse....


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: KeithB on October 21, 2019, 06:18:19 AM
I have a ten year old 200 series with a 2 inch lift and followed my mate in his new 200 series with KDSS on a recent trip. While we wallowed all over the place on corners, he stayed flat and level. KDSS would be on my list if I was buying a new one.
Keith
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: GBC on October 21, 2019, 06:57:10 AM
I have a ten year old 200 series with a 2 inch lift and followed my mate in his new 200 series with KDSS on a recent trip. While we wallowed all over the place on corners, he stayed flat and level. KDSS would be on my list if I was buying a new one.
Keith

The bloke I mostly travel with has a Sahara with kdss. It gets depressing watching that thing float along tracks from the drivers seat of a ranger. He doesn’t even need to put a safety  thumb over his stubby!
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: loanrangie on October 21, 2019, 12:06:22 PM
Take a D4 for a drive and you'll be hooked, i have driven LR's for 25 years and never had a breakdown. 2 Range Rovers and my 2nd Discovery, 375k on my first.
 D4 boot would be on par to a 200 and has the best 7 seat arrangement in any vehicle, 2 adult size seats that fold completely flush into the floor.
 I would also consider a newer Paj before any toyota product.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Beachman on October 21, 2019, 12:08:44 PM
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He doesn’t even need to put a safety  thumb over his stubby!       :cheers:
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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: GBC on October 21, 2019, 02:23:01 PM
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He doesn’t even need to put a safety  thumb over his stubby!       :cheers:

The single highest praise I could give that car. I’m glad someone understands!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: gronk on October 21, 2019, 08:23:41 PM
Take a D4 for a drive and you'll be hooked, i have driven LR's for 25 years and never had a breakdown. 2 Range Rovers and my 2nd Discovery, 375k on my first.
 D4 boot would be on par to a 200 and has the best 7 seat arrangement in any vehicle, 2 adult size seats that fold completely flush into the floor.
 I would also consider a newer Paj before any toyota product.

That's a pretty impressive run out of the pommie vehicles..   totally at odds with horror stories you hear of other owners....a couple used to be on this site also..
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Bird on October 21, 2019, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: gronk
That's a pretty impressive run out of the pommie vehicles..   totally at odds with horror stories you hear of other owners....a couple used to be on this site also..

9 out of 10 landys are still on the road... the other one made it home :P
Title: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Pete79 on October 21, 2019, 09:41:19 PM
Current Toyota “service bulletins”;

* clogged diesel particulate filters (DPF) that cause the vehicles to blow “excessive white smoke from the exhaust pipe”
* air sensors that become contaminated with dust and trigger the car into “limp home” mode
* Transmission thump that has been traced to the drive shaft. HiLux owners will get a new “rear propeller shaft slide joint”, but only on the second visit back to the dealer.

And let’s not talk about the faulty fuel injectors fitted in the first of the new shape Hilux or the fault that turns off the airbags in many Toyota models.

Current Ford Ranger “service bulletins”;
* intercooler pipes splitting
* rear main oil seals leaking
* harsh transmission shifts
* catastrophic engine failures
* heat shield fitted near the diesel particulate filter after 24 rangers caught fire

Plus a number of complete engine replacements from “bad fuel”.... ::)

Current model D-Max;
* cracked front shock tower





All of those known issues and not a flaming Jeep to be seen anywhere.... :P
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: gronk on October 21, 2019, 09:54:43 PM
Current Toyota “service bulletins”;

* clogged diesel particulate filters (DPF) that cause the vehicles to blow “excessive white smoke from the exhaust pipe”
* air sensors that become contaminated with dust and trigger the car into “limp home” mode
* Transmission thump that has been traced to the drive shaft. HiLux owners will get a new “rear propeller shaft slide joint”, but only on the second visit back to the dealer.

And let’s not talk about the faulty fuel injectors fitted in the first of the new shape Hilux or the fault that turns off the airbags in many Toyota models.

Current Ford Ranger “service bulletins”;
* intercooler pipes splitting
* rear main oil seals leaking
* harsh transmission shifts
* catastrophic engine failures
* heat shield fitted near the diesel particulate filter after 24 rangers caught fire

Plus a number of complete engine replacements from “bad fuel”.... ::)

Current model D-Max;
* cracked front shock tower





All of those known issues and not a flaming Jeep to be seen anywhere.... :P

All cars have faults......but it's how they deal with faults.
Land Rover and Jeep are well known to fob off people with faults...even under new car warranty..
Title: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: Pete79 on October 21, 2019, 10:31:19 PM
All cars have faults......but it's how they deal with faults.
Land Rover and Jeep are well known to fob off people with faults...even under new car warranty..
My brand new 2007 Hilux was fitted with the faulty injectors.
After reporting issues for 4 services in a row I mentioned the ACCC on my 5 service and they finally admitted they knew there was an issue and might find it in their harts to replace them with a working set.

Nobody should get sucked into that “Toyota reliability” BS these days.
30 years ago maybe, but modern Toyota vehicles are just as bad as all of those from the traditionally faulty manufacturers and there’s just as many “horror stories” about stranded Toyota owners as every other make.
The only advantage they have these days is that the mines still run full fleets of basically Toyota only vehicles. And as Spada’s mate recently found out, parts are easier to get WHEN your Toyota brakes down if you’re around a mining town.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: rags on October 21, 2019, 10:52:10 PM
All cars have faults......but it's how they deal with faults.
Land Rover and Jeep are well known to fob off people with faults...even under new car warranty..

Yep agree, in our family we have had a diesel Mazda CX-5 fail at 150km and more recently a Subaru XV at 112km have catastrophic failures but to the credit of each manufacturer they replaced engines without question.
I would be interesting to see the percentage of say Toyota land cruisers that have failures, I would suggest that it would be lucky to be 1% of the vehicles on the road.
Probably the Jeeps and Landrover would not be too different.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: GBC on October 22, 2019, 06:16:05 AM
Since we are looking at service bulletins back to 2011 (px1 ranger intercooler hose - updated on px2 and px3).

A list of a few HUNDRED grand Cherokee updates they have had over the exact same period. I would have cut and pasted but the list is too big.

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/wk2_tsb.htm
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: vern on October 22, 2019, 06:43:42 AM
Yep agree, in our family we have had a diesel Mazda CX-5 fail at 150km and more recently a Subaru XV at 112km have catastrophic failures but to the credit of each manufacturer they replaced engines without question.
I would be interesting to see the percentage of say Toyota land cruisers that have failures, I would suggest that it would be lucky to be 1% of the vehicles on the road.
Probably the Jeeps and Landrover would not be too different.
I suggest you check out the Toyota Landcruiser 1vd dusted engine Facebook page. I have read some folk on there are up to there 3rd engine in around 200kkm, which Toyota contributed to some of the funding, not all.

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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: paul.o on October 22, 2019, 07:13:29 AM
Have you considered a new Paj?

A lot of your concerns about your current car have been sorted with a newer model.

Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: shanegtr on October 23, 2019, 06:39:18 PM
One of the main issues we brought our D3 when I had to replace our 80 series was for the 3rd row seating. Looked at 100 and 200 series but felt that they didn't really offer anything special in the 3rd row over the old 80 series. Im 6ft tall and I can comfortably sit in the 3rd row due to the built in footwell - all the landcruisers are just a flat floor. If I had to replace my D3 tomorrow my likely candidates for replacement would be another D3, D4 or Y62 patrol (I haven't personally checked out a Y62, but from what I've seen theres a heap more space behind the 3rd row compared to the Disco. I'd personally pick a petrol engine over a modern full emission diesel any day of the week).
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: boobook on October 24, 2019, 07:48:08 AM
I had a 2008 Landcruiser 200. Loved it. Like a lot of early 200's it had oil use problems and a steering rack failed. Toyota fixed both without blinking. It did let dust in the rear, but like most instances, this turns out to be where ARB forgot to seal the wiring inlet.

I really wanted to buy a disco as a replacement. On paper it is a better vehicle. Enough power, better economy, great built in suspension lift / drop, slightly better payload, more boxy shape etc. Tata even seems to have fixed reliability somewhat. But the more I looked into it, the less convinced I was.

Owners on these forums say they have been reliable, great. But talk to many owners, check review sites, look at Edmunds and other reliability sites and a few reviews. I know the internet is not always the best source, but there is overwhelming evidence that the problems still exist IN MY VIEW. I have 4 friends that had Disco 3's 4's or recent Rangies that voewed never again. Constant returns and fights with the dealers who say 'no fault found' or 'never seen that before'. The best one was the faulty handbrake on my mates Disco 3. It kept locking on, after several returns to LR, he googled it. The internet was riddled with the issue - like a plague. He showed that to LR and they instantly fixed it and admitted it was a common problem.

On top of that, all the dealers are in capital cities or on the east coast. The one exception is Alice Springs. There is 1500 km between dealers in the middle of Australia. One friend proudly said no problem, LR will arrange towing to a dealer. But when he read the fine print, there was a 200km limit then x$ per km  with no off road service. WTF?

Anyway, despite the Disco 4 being a theroetical better vehicle, I could not convince myself that I could rely on it for touring.

I have a new 200. Love it. They fixed the economy a little too.

I suggest you join Lcool for the 200 and Alruo (?) for the disco to get more owners opinions.

Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: shanegtr on October 24, 2019, 07:55:08 AM
My D3 hasn't been without fault - and I've only had one issue that would not be considered a common known problem. But look into it enough and you'll find common issues with nearly everything on the road. nearly 320,000km on my D3 and I'd have no issues taking it to remote places
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 24, 2019, 09:45:14 AM
I work in LCs all week, I own LRs.

My LRs are almost exclusively used offroad and never had a failure to proceed.  The D4 has been faultless, so was the D3.

The D2 and D1 has a few niggles but was more induced by the serious level of modifications and arduous use.

My nearest LR dealer is 800km return and never had a problem, my nearest LC dealer is in town and we can never get anything more than filters from them in under 2 weeks.

A LR under warranty will be recovered from anywhere at no cost to owners - I’ve seen it happen - they even flew the family home at no cost and trucked the vehicle back.  They then were given a loan vehicle until it arrived back and was fixed.

Toyota had a friends LC200 in the workshop for 8 weeks waiting for parts and no loan vehicle.


Both brands are based on reputation.
One has a solid reputation but is no longer of that standard, the other has an old reputation to shake and is of a higher quality than those that preceded it by a huge margin.

A friend in our travel group had a small problem with his Defender - the service manager drove 5 hours to bring the replacement part and fitted it on site.  That’s the best advertisement for service you’ll get.

For service parts and spares - I can get parts for the D4 quicker, delivered to me than the Toyota dealers can get parts for my work vehicle.

Unbreakable?!?! Not even close.  New parts (not filters) are fitted to my work vehicle every service.

As I said before, if I was looking for a replacement it would be another LR or outside that a Y62.


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tryagain on October 24, 2019, 10:12:45 AM
Resale is something a lot of people don't take into account, figure out how long you plan to have it for and then look up the used values of their predecessors of that age, there is sometimes a significant difference which is worth factoring in, a more expensive car can actually cost less in the long run due too lesser rate of depreciation.
Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: tombie on October 24, 2019, 10:25:34 AM
Resale is something a lot of people don't take into account, figure out how long you plan to have it for and then look up the used values of their predecessors of that age, there is sometimes a significant difference which is worth factoring in, a more expensive car can actually cost less in the long run due too lesser rate of depreciation.

Agree.

And again, driven by reputation.


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Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: BeeGee on October 29, 2019, 05:35:37 PM
thanks for the continued feedback and debate.

I've driven 2 x D4s now and 2 x LC200s and looked over many more.
Also joined Aulro and Lcool forums and asked some questions there as well.
Also chatted to my mates with LC200s and a D4. In fact on Sunday we had a BBQ at my place and one brought their LC200 and the other brought their D4 HSE.  My wife and I drove them back to back.

The Disco wins for me for our needs. The rear 3rd row seat is far better than the LC200 which is just a flat floor. The Disco is about 15% better on fuel economy than the LC200.

Title: Re: Upgrading Pajero to either LC200 or Disco4?
Post by: gronk on October 29, 2019, 07:47:12 PM
There you go....there is only one person you've got to please...yourself. ( and the missus )