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Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« on: February 21, 2015, 11:22:40 PM »
Reading an article which was headlining news.com.au by the way,story about Glenn on  a shooting Safari in south africa 7 years ago which was/is perfectly legal by the way, has got the left wing grass smoking dopes up in arms
As a responsible hunter, it enrages me the negative comments people put up and bias journalism that we are expected to swallow
He has now listed an apology on twitter for this, can someone please explain to me why he has to apologize? ??
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 06:19:10 AM »
No ****ing responsible hunter would kill an elephant. They are endangered.  Full stop. None of the animals shot were for eating.  As an responsible human I'm going to smoke some grass now and you can go **** yourself
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 06:29:49 AM »
The news is covering non stop this morning. Must be a slow news day. It was eight years ago who cares. And for all the nutters on social media saying they are going to stop donating to the McGrath foundation, well I hope you never see one of your loved ones suffer from cancer
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2015, 06:43:14 AM »
I'd rather smoke pot than kill for kicks, sorry not my cup of tea.

But ... why has the media decided to dig this up ? It happened a few years ago, probably around the time that McGrath lost his wife to cancer. Glen stated that it was all above board, yet in hindsight he regrets doing so. EOS.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2015, 06:46:15 AM »
Typical beat up again on law abiding hunters and gun owners.

Why is there less of an issue made when PEOPLE are murded by CRIMINALS  with ILLEGAL guns.

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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2015, 06:48:18 AM »
If he was on a legal hunt and did nothing against the law he has nothing to apologise for as far as I'm concerned. The fact people might not like his choice of past time / what he did is there own problem. It's up to the government of that country to outlaw the hunting of those animals if they are so endangered, so whilst it's a legal thing to do people will still do it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2015, 06:49:32 AM »
The elephants that get shot by responsible hunters are chosen by the rangers for culling as part of the herd management.

They are either old, rogue, injured or need to be culled to stop inbreeding.

They pay a Shitload to the government / park management, the sort of money that keeps the conservation programs going.

Do I agree with it - NO
Do I understand why they sell this service to fund the conservation - YES.

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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2015, 07:29:02 AM »
Another trial by social media. He did something legal that he now regrets. Get over it.

Its not something I would do personally. Most people I know who have shot an elephant feel huge regret afterwards. And I know a few professional hunters in Africa including one, who shot his first and only one twenty odd years ago, cried after he did it, and has never wanted to do it again. He thought he'd really get a thrill, but experienced the complete opposite.

I get the idea of hunting for eating, but not the thrill of trophy shooting.

I took part in a government conservation cull (of buck) in Africa when I was 18. Put me off for life. There was no finesse or skill. Find a her, drive up in a land-cruiser, pick a target, shoot, load onto the back of a 40ton truck. Repeat for 3 days.  Bloodbath
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2015, 07:30:45 AM »
The elephants that get shot by responsible hunters are chosen by the rangers for culling as part of the herd management.

They are either old, rogue, injured or need to be culled to stop inbreeding.

They pay a ****load to the government / park management, the sort of money that keeps the conservation programs going.

Do I agree with it - NO
Do I understand why they sell this service to fund the conservation - YES.

Did anyone watch the SBS show "Living with the enemy"

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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2015, 07:32:59 AM »
No ****ing responsible hunter would kill an elephant. They are endangered.  Full stop. None of the animals shot were for eating.  As an responsible human I'm going to smoke some grass now and you can go **** yourself
You gibberer - give yourself an upper cut.  That tone is not helpful to the discussion
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 07:54:56 AM »
For what it is worth, in my mind. Glen has done nothing wrong, and has no reason to give an apology to anyone . Other than to his own conscience , and only if he feel the need.

Maybe he should start an Australian Big Game shooting business and start shooting/culling some of the big crocodiles that are hounding the Northern waterways of Australia.
 
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2015, 08:54:01 AM »
He is weak as, that's only my opinion and this is further illustrated in his response where he claims " I was going thorough a tough time in my life" .

So he introduced his wife's death to the story, so any reference to the breast cancer fund ..he has introduced..

I reckon the elephant was having a tough time too.

As stated not illegal at all.... but I can tell you an elephant does not shoot back ..he could have paid the money to have it relocated.. I personally hope it rides him for the rest of his life, pulling the trigger an animal like that is just abhorrent no matter how you try to justify it. 

He might as well fight a 5 year old and claim a first round knock out...

I own guns , so im not anti guns ..I,m just anti weak people with guns.  he prob drove out their in the air con ..where they had chased that thing all day and corralled it into a corner for the big white hunter to shoot it in the head at 75-100 mtrs ...I real hunter hey.

just plain and simply weak as IMHO.

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2015, 08:58:28 AM »
A lot of it has to do with the perception of what is right and wrong.

How many of those people who are having a go, are the same people who will call for killing sharks so we can swim in the ocean? Dont say you only want nets and not culling. Nets kill sharks a slow painful death, along with the by-catch (Dolphins/whales/egt's). But that's OK?

How many of those people kill mice/rats in their home? Is that OK?

Does it just mean that if an animal disrups our lifestyle it is ok to kill it?

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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2015, 09:01:55 AM »
Getting some pretty strong responses here!

It wasn't illegal.

Only he has to deal with his conscious.

What's with the big media beat up?

who's really behind this getting out there now and why?

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2015, 09:10:08 AM »

What is acceptable to hunt and kill and what isn't?
that's what this comes down to in the end, peoples personal opinion of what's ok to kill in this world. For me all Glenn has done wrong here IMHO is bring his and Jane's battle with cancer into the equation as an excuse for doing it.
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Re: Glenn mcgrath shooting.....shock horror
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2015, 09:17:31 AM »
Its not hunting ... you hunt for food.... its shooting when you shoot things for fun...

Each to their own all cool I,m happy with my opinion and its not based on the media its based on my beliefs and I,m happy if others feel differently. ;D ;D

If he truly thinks he did nothing wrong then man up and don't apologise, to me just shows he is even weaker, you did it ..its either wrong in which case apologise and maybe donate some funds to the save the elephant fund ..or man up and say .."you know what I did nothing wrong". at least it would show some conviction....either way

A half baked 50/50 apology is just more weakness IMHO.

But hey lets all blame the media/breast cancer and everything else for his decision ...

 I strongly disagree that people should stop donating to breast cancer , that's just punishing more innocent people who need help..

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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2015, 09:20:53 AM »
 :cheers: Jet.

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2015, 09:26:35 AM »
Its not hunting ... you hunt for food.... its shooting when you shoot things for fun...

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and there's you personal belief getting into your argument Theo, some people hunt purely for trophies also, just look at the shows on telly based around taxidermy etc. whilst I don't like what he choose to do, he didn't break any laws and should tell the media to GGF IMHO.
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2015, 10:04:13 AM »
My main concern is doing the hunting in Zimbabwe.

They haven't had a good record in land management and conservation since Mugabe went rogue. Would be worried that would be seeking dollars at the expense of the animals.

Also agree with Jet, unless it is necessary for pest control, shoot for food.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2015, 10:11:45 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2015, 11:39:40 AM »
Yeah. think Jet has it covered well and truly.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2015, 11:45:41 AM »
The meat does not go to waste. It is used by the lodge , workers or donated to local villages. The money and the meat help the locals , so for them it's a win/win situation. Lodges also employ a lot of locals as trackers , porters, cleaners , cooks , gardeners , the list goes on. Without a job how many of these people would go poaching for bush meat ?  :cheers:
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2015, 01:39:32 PM »
FFS you guys criticizing it.  Look up the stats on how many animals are in countries in Africa that have banned hunting, compared to those that promote it, you will be surprised.

If it wasn't for hunting, NONE of us would be here today. It is a necessary and does more to help the environment and native wildlife(in this country) than you realise.

Why some people put more value on one animal or another is ridiculous.  If it was hunted legally it was for a reason, they also utilise the meat over there from probably 95% of the animals, if not more.

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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2015, 01:52:58 PM »
Brett Lee now drawn into it...


UPDATE: Former Australian cricketer Brett Lee is the latest sporting casualty to be dragged into a social media storm over hunting photos.
Another image emerged online today after yesterday’s backlash against Glenn McGrath when photos emerged of him hunting African animals on safari in 2008. 
 
The latest picture shows Lee with McGrath around a dead bleeding animal hanging off the back of a vehicle and two children posing in the photo.

One of the children appears to be holding the dead animal’s head up.

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2015, 02:13:06 PM »
Brett Lee now drawn into it...


UPDATE: Former Australian cricketer Brett Lee is the latest sporting casualty to be dragged into a social media storm over hunting photos.
Another image emerged online today after yesterday’s backlash against Glenn McGrath when photos emerged of him hunting African animals on safari in 2008. 
 
The latest picture shows Lee with McGrath around a dead bleeding animal hanging off the back of a vehicle and two children posing in the photo.

One of the children appears to be holding the dead animal’s head up.


Yep the animal is a deer a $&@%en feral animal. I hope more sporting stars take up the challenge and take to removing these ferals from our country.

I am with jet, disappointed he used some softcock excuse. Unfortunately as the above story and twits on Twitter that are commenting he has no chance of any logical explanation. Because the fluffy animal lovers and vegans abhor any volience towards furry things.

Morally I am against hunting elephants and other native animals to a country. Ferals ye ha go to town.
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