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Heart Attacks
« on: March 04, 2022, 12:17:43 PM »
I was lucky, I had 1 about 12 years ago, 1 artery 95% blocked ,2 others at 60%  :o :o
Into the resuscitation theatre at 1am , stent inserted , discharged 3 days later
Never gave heart attacks a thought, I was pretty active, played 18 holes of golf at least once a week, got a fair bit of exercise  at work, diet was good  :angel: All that didn't matter a damn, apparently I'm prone to having high cholesterol.   :'(
While it's too late now for Marshy , please go and  get a cholesterol test done, takes about 10 minutes and 100ml's of blood .

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2022, 01:46:54 PM »
Yep.  :)

My calcium score 1.2 and cholesterol has been within the same limits since I was 40. I'm not allowed blood thinners as my arteries and blood flow are to good and I could bleed out.  :o Dr said my stats are ridiculous for someone of my age.  ;D

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2022, 04:38:39 PM »
Onya Keefy.... :cup:

My father was on blood pressure and cholesterol meds from the age of 40.
My Lovely made me get a check-over when I turned 40. Guess wot.....
Genetics are pretty hard to get around.

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2022, 05:55:45 PM »
15 years ago for me. 2 stents and a week in the hospital.

Familial hypercholesterolemia I think it is called when you are predisposed genetically for you body not to cope with cholesterol too well. Apparently it is one in every 200 people or so from memory. Could live on nothing but lettuce and still have high cholesterol.

I didn't know of any family history, but learnt later that my grand father on my fathers side died of a hearty at the same age that I was when I had mine.

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2022, 06:13:02 PM »
Well said Xcavator.

My doc has been on the brink of prescribing cholesterol medications for me for a few years. I have been pushing back - waiting for dietary changes to kick in. They haven't !! Anyway he told me to get a calcium score test and if it was low he would get off my back.

 Zero - you beauty.

He is still not happy but apparently 6.5 isn't toooooooo bad but at least we now know it isn't doing any damage


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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2022, 08:16:49 PM »
Well said Xcavator.

My doc has been on the brink of prescribing cholesterol medications for me for a few years. I have been pushing back - waiting for dietary changes to kick in. They haven't !! Anyway he told me to get a calcium score test and if it was low he would get off my back.

 Zero - you beauty.

He is still not happy but apparently 6.5 isn't toooooooo bad but at least we now know it isn't doing any damage


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Calcium score in 2009…..585. !!   25% blocked main artery.
25% blocked is not bad…..a lot of older people may have worse, but that’s the idea of the post….get checked.

I originally had a CT angiogram…mostly covered by Medicare…..or if you don’t feel like investigating, at least do a stress test.

So many blokes I’ve talked to say whatever happens, happens…..but 99% would change their minds if lying in hospital….if they survived !!
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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2022, 09:03:01 PM »
My son died of a heart attack in March 2019, a week shy of his 39th birthday.

His diet wasn't that good, but  he wasn't grossly overweight. He liked a beer.  I suspect his blood pressure and cholesterol were over the recommended limits but he'd never tell me that.

They say these things can run in families but his grandmother is 97, his grandfather made 80 and I'm coming up 70.

Look after yourselves, and tell your kids they aren't invincible.
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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2022, 06:17:22 AM »
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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2022, 06:47:46 AM »
RIP Warnie

Only 52…….a timely reminder for all.

And don’t forget, it’s not a male only disease !!
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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2022, 07:58:55 AM »
& if you do ever start feeling crook, go to hospital or see a Doctor!!!

FiL had a heart attack quite a few years back, which was then followed a few months later by open-heart surgery. He'd apparently  been complaining for a couple of days that he wasn't feeling well, but refused to see anybody as "it'll be OK". Then woke his Mrs in the middle of the night to ask her to drive him down to the hospital. She refused & called an ambulance. He was then lying on a table in theatre hooked up to monitors, when the Doctor said to the other staff "Look at that - that's what a heart attack starting looks like!", & gave him a big dose of something (adrenalin?) which prevented any damage.

He was OK afterwards, but had a Pacemaker for the rest of his life.

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2022, 10:51:23 AM »
Well I had mine at 28, not cholesterol related but a blood clot.  Genetics, poor lifestyle and a drinking problem.  Lost around 15% of my heart capacity that day, and another 5% a few years later.

Been on the meds ever since and off the bottle as well.  Can't say my lifestyle is great but from my yearly chats with the cardiologist I'm doing OK and just hit 45 so can't complain too much.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2022, 03:03:00 PM »
Lucky I am 53 and am past the high risk age  :cheers:

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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2022, 07:50:32 PM »
Must say it is really easy to get the necessary checks, I have been doing yearly checks now for around 7years with Cardiologist. Mainly to measure the size of my aorta valve which is slightly enlarged to ensure it is not enlarging further.
Tests range from ECG, Stress tests, echo graph and scan where they inject the dye into the arteries and then scan you.
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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2022, 04:26:26 PM »
And another indestructible 50 y/o in trouble with a heart attack , c'mon people get yourselves tested

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2022, 09:03:38 AM »
I have no medical training and have been off crook for several months with an unrelated gut infection and spent a lot of time reading up on diet and health. The modern research-based thinking, believe it or not, on heart attacks seems to be this:

1. Most people who have heart attacks have normal LDL cholesterol. Cholesterol is an important component of our body and our brains are made up of a lot of it. Cholesterol is not a fat; it is a sterol.
2. The incidence of heart attacks is not related to LDL except in people with genetically increased LDL.
3. High LDL cholesterol is only a problem if there are lots of small dense LDL particles called VLDL. The ratio of triglycerides to HDL is a good proxy indication of that and should be less 2 and preferable less than 1.
4. Heart attacks are mostly caused by inflammation in the whole body which causes artery damage around the heart which the body then tries to repair with cholesterol. Calcium is then deposited on the wound as a kind of band aid. Cholesterol gets the blame when it is merely the fireman and not the fire itself.
5. Inflammation in the body is caused by poor diet with lots of sugars and refined carbohydrates which gives rise to insulin resistance and inflammation, causing artery damage and other damage as well. Saturated animal fats do not cause heart damage but seed (vegetable) oils are not recognised by the body as a food and cause damage. These oils were only invented in 1911 and were followed 30 years later by a big deterioration in health.
6. Heart attacks and cancer are pretty much unknown in populations that do not live on the modern western diet. After we were told to reduce fats in the early 1970's, sugar and starch consumption increased and rates of obesity, diabetes and heart problems skyrocketed.
7. For most people, statins cause more harm than good. When I was on them, I had memory loss. The reduction in the absolute risk, as opposed to relative risk, of avoiding a heart attack by taking statins is statistically insignificant compared to the incidence of adverse side effects. Yet doctors are handing out statins like Smarties.

So I've asked my doctor to test for triglycerides, HDL, blood sugar and insulin. My calcium score is 94 which is not too bad for a 72yo. But it should be zero. It's worth doing your own research.

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2022, 03:36:04 PM »
thanks for reminding me of the importance of this

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Re: Heart Attacks
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2022, 06:52:32 PM »
BTT...
And its not just heart attacks.

The horrible C is something to get off ya arse about.
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And another C….blood cancer….can happen to very young kids and anyone in between. NOT generally related to diet, although pesticides are one “possible” culprit in older people ( ie; farmers )..
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2022, 08:46:40 AM »
And another C….blood cancer….can happen to very young kids and anyone in between. NOT generally related to diet, although pesticides are one “possible” culprit in older people ( ie; farmers )..

And some only show some very innocuous symptoms, my wife’s was basically itchy skin for an hour or two after a hot shower, some localised pain high left side abdomen and a blush across nose and cheeks.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2022, 09:09:10 PM »
And some only show some very innocuous symptoms, my wife’s was basically itchy skin for an hour or two after a hot shower, some localised pain high left side abdomen and a blush across nose and cheeks.

Know someone who had non Hodgkin’s lymphoma ...zero symptoms…an unrelated X-ray picked up some strange masses that needed further looking at.
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2022, 10:27:46 AM »
Know someone who had non Hodgkin’s lymphoma ...zero symptoms…an unrelated X-ray picked up some strange masses that needed further looking at.

I often wonder if cancers etc are far more prevalent or not, 100 years ago you wasted away of “consumption” a catch all for many ailments.
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