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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #350 on: April 23, 2020, 09:24:52 PM »
Apparently ford a testing a new electric toy. 1400hp and 1,100 pound-feet (1,491 Newton-meters) of torque straight out of the box.

Sounds like fun. ;D
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #351 on: May 08, 2020, 10:08:54 AM »
According to documents filed for the lawsuit, 44-year-old Yoshihiro Umeda was with a group of motorcyclists at the side of the road in Kanagawa, Japan, sorting out the aftermath of a crash.

According to the court documents, he was struck by a Tesla Model X, when the car’s driver engaged the autonomous driving system and fell asleep. The Model X had been allegedly following another car, which changed lanes to avoid the earlier crash scene.  According to the Daily Mail the court documents state:
The Tesla Model X’s sensors and forward-facing cameras did not recognize the parked motorcycles, pedestrians, and van that were directly in its path, and it continued accelerating forward until striking the motorcycles and Mr. Umeda, thereby crushing and killing Mr. Umeda as the Tesla Model X ran over his body

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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #352 on: May 08, 2020, 11:58:30 AM »
So being a guvmint organisation we are supposed to lead the way in the latest tech. So our fleet suddenly has two Hyundai Kona's.
Took one for a spin the other day. So weird not having motor noise but was oh so smooth.
Put the foot down and they do move quite well, surprising actually but you can see the battery guage have a hernia trying to keep up with the charge going out of the batteries.
I did a round trip of 80K's and the guage matched that with it's remaining charge.
Fully charged the range showed 400K's which as a fleet car around Brisvegas is not too bad. But here is the kicker, plugged into a normal GPO it takes 22 hours to refill.
We have put in a purchase request for a fast charge station on campus which has been approved at $30K but funnily enough has been post poned until next FY.
Yes/No? Might be good for a city fleet car but wouldn't touch it for a trip past the city outskirts.
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #353 on: May 08, 2020, 02:36:57 PM »

 it takes 22 hours to refill.
We have put in a purchase request for a fast charge station on campus which has been approved at $30K but funnily enough has been post poned until next FY.


So, for the average punter, who just wants one to run to work and back, and their work didn't have a fast charger, and obviously an average bloke couldn't afford a 30K charger for home, so the car is only good for use every 2nd day ??
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #354 on: May 08, 2020, 03:11:41 PM »
So, for the average punter, who just wants one to run to work and back, and their work didn't have a fast charger, and obviously an average bloke couldn't afford a 30K charger for home, so the car is only good for use every 2nd day ??

No....  You dont need to spend $30k on a charging device.

There are three types of charger for EV's.

Trickle Charge units from standard power points ( between 2 to 3 kw per hour.) These come with the vehicle.  Yes, the 40 plus kwh battery in the Kona would take 15 to 20 hours to charge, but these are really only for emergency use.

Residential or Workplace Chargers you wire into your building  for personal use ( between 7 and 8 kw per hour) that cost between $1000 and $1500. The kona would charge in about 5 to 6 hours. These are the usual way to go for home charged EV's.

Dedicated Fast charge units found in specialist charging areas, or workplaces. (40 plus kw per hour charge rate).  Not really for home use, due to the $30k cost.  The kona would charge in an hour. Usually used whilst travelling via credit card.

Having just purchased a newish Hundai Tuscon for SHMBO, I was dissappointed that the kona has not yet been approved for VTG use (Vehicle to Grid).  Had they been so certified we would have purchased one.
Having one attached to our home Solar system would have allowed the 40kw battery in the kona to power the house overnight.   

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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #355 on: May 08, 2020, 04:04:05 PM »

Having one attached to our home Solar system would have allowed the 40kw battery in the kona to power the house overnight.   

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And how do you drive to work in the morning with a depleted battery in the car ?
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« Reply #356 on: May 08, 2020, 04:41:25 PM »
And how do you drive to work in the morning with a depleted battery in the car ?

Short trip to work where you then recharge, with their power, to then again use it to run your house at night time.  ;D

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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #357 on: May 08, 2020, 07:53:35 PM »
Short trip to work where you then recharge, with their power, to then again use it to run your house at night time.  ;D
In an ideal world where you live very close to work and your work has a charger ! But how does the work place power the charger ? Ha ha, with "dirty" electricity !!
And a work place that is happy for you to use their power....but if you had to pay for their power, it defeats the purpose !!

Maybe an ideal world would be if you had enough solar, and a decent size battery bank, and your batteries charged the batteries in the car overnight ?? Again, very inefficient...so many losses in the system, mainly your back pocket paying for the system.
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #358 on: May 09, 2020, 10:59:33 AM »
And how do you drive to work in the morning with a depleted battery in the car ?

The house will use about 4kw of the 40 plus available overnight.  Kona will still have a 400km range....
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« Reply #359 on: May 09, 2020, 11:02:39 AM »
In an ideal world where you live very close to work and your work has a charger ! But how does the work place power the charger ? Ha ha, with "dirty" electricity !!


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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #361 on: June 02, 2020, 09:46:39 AM »
BRING ON THE FUTURE!!!!

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-drives-straight-into-overturned-truck-in-1843827507
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #362 on: June 02, 2020, 11:14:51 PM »
It probably said " Wasnt me, it was that Bio unit " that caused all the trouble .
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #363 on: June 10, 2020, 08:29:20 AM »
This might be the answer for all those who want a motorcycle to sound like a motorcycle....
https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/emula-electric-motorcycle/?fbclid=IwAR0SXx_vp5P3AGdiuBXdMPyZTEYDd2SFS5Y6hm5yHrTF6hRcvGhEJb9lAOk


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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #364 on: June 22, 2020, 11:43:39 AM »
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #365 on: June 22, 2020, 12:58:59 PM »
This might be the answer for all those who want a motorcycle to sound like a motorcycle....
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Sounds great...

For all that extra cost / weight and not quite right fake crap ... Id rather have the cheaper real deal thanks .. Could you imagine sitting there at the lights with the thing blurting out a glitched digital sound track of the engine at 15000 rpm changing up and down gears evey few split seconds and No ones moving ..
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #366 on: June 22, 2020, 02:44:06 PM »
For all that extra cost / weight and not quite right fake crap ... Id rather have the cheaper real deal thanks .. Could you imagine sitting there at the lights with the thing blurting out a glitched digital sound track of the engine at 15000 rpm changing up and down gears evey few split seconds and No ones moving ..

BUT, you could have a V8 sounding bike...just to confuse the hell out of everyone !!

Really, you could have any soundtrack you liked.....a more appropriate one for an elect bike would be the Sound of Music......or 101 favorite Lullabies...!!  ;D
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« Reply #367 on: June 22, 2020, 10:57:57 PM »
Ohh definately worth every cent ... Sooo Realistic that no one would ever know it wasnt a petrol powered bike .. I can see all those ruff tuff hulking tatted up E harley hogsters, pulling up at the lights blipping their  MP3 throttles ... " Wild Hogs " ....   ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #368 on: July 06, 2020, 09:39:20 AM »
Just reading this article

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-06/tesla-electric-cars-boost-raise-ethical-mining-questions/12424092

Bit of it is about mining for various components but the interesting bit is

"Tesla became the world's most valuable carmaker last week, overtaking Toyota, despite never having made an annual profit."

"Tesla sold 11,095 Shanghai-made Model 3 vehicles in China in May, more than triple the number sold in April,"
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #369 on: July 06, 2020, 11:56:00 AM »
Teflon man will put a spin on it, Make a support foundation for the child slaves, hand out a few Macca's coupons infront of the worlds press
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« Reply #372 on: September 23, 2020, 08:00:00 PM »
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« Reply #373 on: September 24, 2020, 09:37:09 AM »
If you have apple TV at home check out the latest installment from Ewan McGregor and Charlie Borman.... The long way up

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Now i know they have some petrol vehicles and and a charging genset as support for when really stuck but it shows when pushed what these electric vehicles can actually do, especially the bikes considering the average punter would take it out for a 3 hour ride then put it back in the shed to charge
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Re: Interesting read on electric cars
« Reply #374 on: September 25, 2020, 07:29:35 AM »


"We can probably stop with the quarter mile time obsession now. It’s just gone too far. Nobody needs a car that can do 0-97 km/h in under 2 seconds. It’s absurd that anyone with $US150,000 ($211,245) can just place an order for this level of rolling vehicular manslaughter from the factory. If you want to run faster than 12s, you should have to build it yourself."

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