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Dingo safety
Educate your self and family about dingo safety especially the kids. Dingos are wild animals and should never be fed or interferer with in any way. All food including things like soap, tooth paste, bait, rubbish and scraps should be stored securely at all times. Never walk alone especially if your a child or slight of build. If confronted by a dingo do not run but fold your arms and back away slowly calling for help, if attacked defend your self with vigour. If you are worried but still want to do the trip you can always camp at Dundaburra as it if fully fenced.
Dingo safety video
http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/media/parks_and_forests/dingo_csa.wmv (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/media/parks_and_forests/dingo_csa.wmv)
General Dingo information
http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/fraser-island-dingoes.html (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/fraser-island-dingoes.html)
Dingo management information
http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/dingo-management.html (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/dingo-management.html)
DERM WARNING
Fraser Island's dingoes are wild and unpredictable. They are possibly one of the purest populations of dingo in Australia and are protected by law. You cannot feed dingoes or any wildlife on Fraser Island. Rangers do check and you will be fined. Plan carefully to be dingo-safe. Follow the guidelines given in brochures and signs.
Bring strong lockable containers to lock up food and rubbish from animals. Do not hang rubbish, food, fish, bait or burley from cars, trees or tents.
Be dingo-safe at the rubbish bins
Never go alone or at night.
Leave no rubbish lying around—bin everything!
If a bin is full, please use another.
Important: report dingo encounters
Please report any negative or close encounter with dingoes to the nearest ranger as soon as you can. Alternatively, phone (07) 5486 9966 or email dingo.ranger@derm.qld.gov.au
Be dingo-safe. Always be close (within 5 metres) to your children. Keep food and waste locked in your vehicle at night.
All wildlife is protected. Approach dingoes, resting shorebirds and all other wildlife slowly, and carefully drive around them.
yogi
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Well said.
The dingos on Fraser have lost their instinct to be afraid of humans. Thanks to the stupid people, visitors and certain locals, who have feed them. You can see how they, the dingos, act differently depending on what part of the island you find them. Generally the more populated the area with visitors, the more game the dingos are. Last time we were at Lake Mackenzie there was a dingo inside the toilets. Guess what, some pee brain had left a half full packet of chips in one of the cubicles. That is why he was there. Not to intentionally attack a child. But the dingo did make us feel uneasy and we would not allow any child to go to that area alone. Mind you we would not do that at any public toilet. There are just as scary low life in any town/city that will prey on children.
There is no doubt that a dingo can bring down a large animal and as you have rightly stated, be aware. They are a wild animal and should be treated as such. But, maybe being a bit scared for you children is a good idea. It is very easy to get complacent on Fraser as it is such a beautiful place. kevin
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P.S. Why would you take a packet of chips into a toilet anyway? ???
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krisandkev .... exactly .... it's unfortunate that the people who think they are helping the dingos by associating food with people are the ones responsible for those dingos being shot or worst still attacking a child. Very true about dingo behaving differently in different location on Fraser ... we usually camp up at Sandy Cape and the dingos there are very weary of humans .... harder to spot but the kind of dingo likely to not get shot by rangers.
yogi
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Just my humble opinion but for what it is worth,
People have been visiting Fraser Island for many years. As far as I am aware, the dingoes were never a serious problen until DERM in its infinate wisdom, removed the brumbies.
The information that I have seen is that the life span of a brumby on Fraser Island was relatively short because of the poor fodder there. As a result of this, there was a good supply of sick and dying or dead horsed on which the dingoes could feed.
Now the dingoes are starving, and as natural scavengers, of course they are drawn to the most readily available source or food.
I think DERM have a lot to answer for, not only for the way they mis-manage Fraser Island.
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I don't think dangours dingos should be shot but removed and used for breeding programs in zoos ect. As for available food your right if you decrease the available food for a population then they either find alternatives or die :(
yogi
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Just my humble opinion but for what it is worth,
People have been visiting Fraser Island for many years. As far as I am aware, the dingoes were never a serious problen until DERM in its infinate wisdom, removed the brumbies.
The information that I have seen is that the life span of a brumby on Fraser Island was relatively short because of the poor fodder there. As a result of this, there was a good supply of sick and dying or dead horsed on which the dingoes could feed.
Now the dingoes are starving, and as natural scavengers, of course they are drawn to the most readily available source or food.
I think DERM have a lot to answer for, not only for the way they mis-manage Fraser Island.
Thats exactly what we were told on our recent trip to fraiser too. we are also told "never turn your back on a dingo"
and with having 3 kids under 4 it made the trip fun. in the space of 5 minutes from lake mackenzies water to the car park we saw 2 piss poor looking dingos.
Awesome spot, well worth the dingo threat.
Cheers!
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What a beautiful photo Kevin. Exactly how they are meant to look to by the way. Scrawny & skinny.
Domestic dogs are rather fat in comparison, and I suppose this is why people try to feed them. Thinking that the Dingo is too skinny and therefore starving ... hardly the case at all.
Dogs in the wild do 2 things (native or otherwise). Eat and survive or Perish. If it's alive, then it's doing okay. To the Dingo, if you look like food, smell like food and can be taken like food ... then you must be food.
If you are going to Fraser (or anywhere in Australia with a Dingo population) please, please, please, be responsible parents and Tell Your Children Why They Shouldn't Pat The Puppies On Fraser (or any strange dog for that matter! Otherwise ... how are they to know the dangers?
Kit_e
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Watch them, very unpredictable ;o)
Cheers
JT
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Now the dingoes are starving, and as natural scavengers, of course they are drawn to the most readily available source or food.
the dingo's are starving are they...says who?
the dingo's i saw last year on the island were looking the healthiest i have seen in quite some time, one even almost looked fat. drive down the beach at night and look at the holes they dig to find the fish frames, you'll be amazed at how far down they dig to find the food. yes they are cunning and come into camps to find food lazy people have left out, but they are opportunistic animals, so what do people expect.
good supervision by the kids parents is all that is required for a safe and fun time on the island, it's what we have done with ours kids when camping on the beach there, and we've never had any issues with the dingo's.
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Gee the crocs at the Cape are not that bad !! They just bite harder ;D
Mark
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Gee the crocs at the Cape are not that bad !! They just bite harder ;D
Mark
......long-nosed, long-tailed, short-legged terriers..............
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Just my humble opinion but for what it is worth,
People have been visiting Fraser Island for many years. As far as I am aware, the dingoes were never a serious problen until DERM in its infinate wisdom, removed the brumbies.
The information that I have seen is that the life span of a brumby on Fraser Island was relatively short because of the poor fodder there. As a result of this, there was a good supply of sick and dying or dead horsed on which the dingoes could feed.
Now the dingoes are starving, and as natural scavengers, of course they are drawn to the most readily available source or food.
I think DERM have a lot to answer for, not only for the way they mis-manage Fraser Island.
Not trying to be funny or start a war but weren,t the DINGOES supposed to be there before the BRUMBIES
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All good advice..on a trip to Fraser my wife and I were a bit nervous about Dingo's and spoke to our children about it ...unfortunantly I think we scared the Shit out of them but as my daughter in particular has a love of animals we were concerned she may get too close. When we were at Devils Marbles, we told them to keep away from a Dingo but it wasnt until we looked at the camera we realised they were very close to it (they borrowed a camera to take pictures).
On Fraser I think we saw a couple of dingoes but kept our distance. I think the most worrisome time was when we were at the Champaigne Pools and my youngest (3) ran ahead. As there was a few people around I wasnt that concerned but when I got around the corner there was a couple of dingoes that looked like they were getting ready to round him up. Be alert but not afraid.
My son cried when he read the memorial to the young 10 year old who was killed there 10 years ago, it would have been horrendous for his parents...I would recomend if staying at Frasier and you have young kids to go for the fenced in areas, as it just makes it easier as they can wonder off and you dont get too worried about it.
But dont let them scare you off as it is a great place
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Rubbish in toilets is a big problem on Fraser Island. A few years ago we did the great walk on Fraser and were astonished to see the amount of rubbish. The bins have been removed in some of the day use areas so as to not attract dingos, so now some lazy, thoughtless visitors think its fine to chuck there rubbish anywhere. As we were hiking for 8 days we carried our rubbish with us and disposed of it when we found bins, in one case the bin was in the front of a bus where the front door had been left open. Some visitors obviously can't be bothered taking there rubbish away with them. Rant over.
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I’ve been fishing at Fraser for 20 years and for years we would always sleep under a tarp and mattress on the sand. Seeing we stunk of fish/bait as was very common to be woken up during the night by a dingo sniffing us. With all these trips I never felt concerned as just shooed them and way it went for an hour or so.
My last trip was with my wife and it was around breeding season. This was the first time I’ve ever been concerned as the dingos near camp were aggressive and at night I could hear 3 of them circling our camp stalking us.
We now have kids, I put off returning until they got bigger. But is saying that we are thinking of retuning later this year with another couple of families. This way it gives more adult eyes to keep an eye on the kids.
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It is an interesting argument about the removal of the brumbies and one most true locals will agree with. Also I recall the argument that one of the reasons they were removed was that the brumbies were not native. However that argument was not applied to the dingos as they are not native to the island? Mind you, I love seeing them there. Kevin
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When we were at Devils Marbles, we told them to keep away from a Dingo but it wasnt until we looked at the camera we realised they were very close to it (they borrowed a camera to take pictures).
the dingo i saw at Devils Marbles last year was the most placid thing you'd ever meet (still wouldn't trust it around the kids though). wasn't the prettiest of dogs either, certainly not in as good of condition as the ones i'm used to seeing on Fraser Island.
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We were on Fraser in April 2011 and thought the dingoes looked healthy. We speculated why and came up with a theory that the rangers might have been feeding them away from the public to perhaps reduce the need for the dingoes to approach the public for food. Again this was our speculation.
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Hi
Just found this short video. Interesting stuff about tags and collars (for National Parks) and some beautiful photos of the Dingo on Fraser! Check it out ... http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/video-fraser-island-dingoes.htm (http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/video-fraser-island-dingoes.htm)
There are also some links further down ... I'm enjoying them all. Shows just how smart they really are and how well they can problem solve.
Kit_e
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Shows just how smart they really are and how well they can problem solve.
Kit_e
I remember a fishing trip to Fraser about 20 years ago and one of the guys had his thermos of soup opened by a Dingo. At the time no one believed us, but the thermos lid was off and had teeth marks on it, so they are smart animals.
Another tip is never keep your car keys/wallet in a bag which also contains food. One night a Dingo took the whole bag and it was never found again.
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I agree don't be afraid but be aware... especially with little ones around the camp.
We were on Fraser last October and had a great time. The week we were there we only seen the one dingo along the beach around the Pinnacles.
Don't be afraid of these animals but don't encourage them and just keep in mind that they are still a wild dog!!!
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Hi went to Fraser last year the Dingos are not afraid of us humans and always looking for a easy feed cos some morons feed them. I took a bait caster (slingshot) and a couple of well placed aims and the dingoes didnt come around. They will get into any thing even your toilet/shower bag and eat your tooth paste. Be aware and dont let little kids out of your sight
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Up at the high country a couple of weeks ago, in the middle of the night a couple of packs starting howling. They would stop for about 5 mins then start again. Every Time was closer. The ended up going through our camp as we could hear commotion around us. The missus and sister inlaw were packing darkies ;D
It didn't really faze me, if anything I thought it was beautiful hearing them in their environment :cheers:
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Up at the high country a couple of weeks ago, in the middle of the night a couple of packs starting howling. They would stop for about 5 mins then start again. Every Time was closer. The ended up going through our camp as we could hear commotion around us. The missus and sister inlaw were packing darkies ;D
It didn't really faze me, if anything I thought it was beautiful hearing them in their environment :cheers:
They needed the thetford Yowie to chase them away ;D
GG
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We camp Fraser most every year, since the kids were little and havent yet had a problem with dingo's. We get these little safety air horns from BCF for each of the kids to carry if they might be a little way down the beach from us .. they are loud and " DO " scare the dingo's away, have used them a few times just to encourage an inquisitive dingo to move on .$14 well spent and last for years . fairly small, fits in the palm of your hand .
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We camp Fraser most every year, since the kids were little and havent yet had a problem with dingo's. We get these little safety air horns from BCF for each of the kids to carry if they might be a little way down the beach from us .. they are loud and " DO " scare the dingo's away, have used them a few times just to encourage an inquisitive dingo to move on .$14 well spent and last for years . fairly small, fits in the palm of your hand .
Great idea! but i reckon the kids would use them up pretty quick. I wonder if there is something similar which can be 'recharged' from a 12v compressor?
cheers
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Hey Jeeps.
Yep I thought the same too but the girls have been realy good, think its because they are pretty loud up close ..
Have seen refillable gas cannister kits for Coleman hot water units, wonder if one of those would work if filled with comressed air .mmmmm food for thought .
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We camp Fraser most every year, since the kids were little and havent yet had a problem with dingo's. We get these little safety air horns from BCF for each of the kids to carry if they might be a little way down the beach from us .. they are loud and " DO " scare the dingo's away, have used them a few times just to encourage an inquisitive dingo to move on .$14 well spent and last for years . fairly small, fits in the palm of your hand .
Totally agree edz as yogi and I always take our refillable air horn with us. After visiting Fraser Island for the past 8 years it has worked a treat to encourage curious dingoes to move on, which we have never had any issues with dingoes. Keeping in mind that we follow all the rules with rubbish and food storage. We do enjoy seeing the dingoes and even had the odd surprise of one cutting through camp - on each occasion the dingoes didn't stop and made their way down to the beach. We just keep the air horn somewhere safe away from children and we educate all the kids on its proper use because if they were to hold the air horn to someone's ear it would or could cause some permanent damage as the air horn is extremely loud. Wouldn't be a nice way to finish a holiday.
Amanda
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Here you go ........ http://www.biasboating.com.au/product_p/2401.htm (http://www.biasboating.com.au/product_p/2401.htm)
yogi
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Thought I'd just bump this topic back to the top so everyone is aware of the requirements camping on Fraser Island when it comes to Dingos. Also when is needed to make our camp area boring to the Dingos, even though they will still come through there won't be any reason to stick around.
Direct from DERM site http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/dingo-safe.html#lock_up_your_food_stores (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/dingo-safe.html#lock_up_your_food_stores)
> Store food, bait, berley, fish, iceboxes and rubbish—food scraps, soiled nappies, tampons etc—inside the vehicle, not on top, and close all the doors.
> While cooking, leave no food unattended; not even scraps or spills.
> Clean up straight after cooking and eating, or store dirty dishes inside a closed vehicle.
> Pour dirty washing up water into a deep hole well away from your camp or use the washing up facilities at the campgrounds.
> Remove all dingo attractants, including beer cans, juice and milk containers, empty cans, dish washing cloths and tea towels—anything that smells sweet or looks like food.
There is further information on the DERM site which yogi has on the first page of this thread.
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Just one question ....
Is it my fault if a Dingo walks in the way while I'm practicing with my slingshot ?
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Is it cool to sprinkle ample amounts of pepper around the camper every few days. It works with cats.
stue
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What ever we do on Fraser is always within the rules as set by DERM.
Yogi and I have only ever taken the following item to scare off dingos, if a dingo is just having a look and isn't causing any problems we don't use it :-
Here you go ........ http://www.biasboating.com.au/product_p/2401.htm (http://www.biasboating.com.au/product_p/2401.htm)
yogi
All food items are required to be put away in safe spots where dingos can not access or get in to. Once we were at Fraser and had a visit from one of the Rangers and it was said to us 'if you put it in your mouth a dingo will also', this also extends to toothpaste / soap / shampoo etc. So basically in accordance with DERM leave no food items out. All rubbish will need to go into cars at night.
You can be garanteed a visit from the Rangers whilst on the Island as they do go through the rules and generally will check how food etc. is stored.
Hope this helps.
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When we were there 3 years ago the rangers were full on we had our camp inspected every second day and whilst we were good after having a cuppa with the rangers he was telling us that he was handing out fines in record numbers.
A good tip he gave us is to put a tie down strap around an esky even if it is just a drinks esky as the buggers have figured out how to open them.
Whilst we had no direct encounters there were fresh paw prints around the camp every morning
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Good advise chester ver2.0 .... I think the Rangers like you to have the tie down straps on any box containing food.
Like you said the dingos are going to be visiting weather you realize it or not so keep the camp boring and they wont stick around log enough to get them selves into trouble :cheers:
yogi
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Boring camp for dingo's sounds good. It all sounds like very common sense stuff with good house keeping. It'll be good to have a yarn with the rangers, they can generally give us the run down on conditions around the place as well.
Hey what about porta-potties,do they cause any issues with the dingos'. I suppose it would help to have a strap to tie the lid down.
cheers
Stue
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the whole thing with dingos on the island is exactly that, common sense stuff. don't be afraid of them, if they come into your camp they will likely run away as soon as you get anywhere near them, that's what they have always done over the last 20 years i've been visiting the island there anyhow.
if you have kids then supervise them, don't let them out of your sight at all, sounds extreme but that's the way it is if you want to be 100% sure they will be ok. the boy who died and kid who got "attacked" last year at Easter time were nowhere near their parents when the events happened, if the parents were with them then i doubt i'd be mentioning the attacks at all now as they'd likely of never happened.
i don't understand why people want to shoot them with a slingshot or whatever to scare the dogs away, they are beautiful animals and very weary of people, trying to get a decent pic of them is not an easy thing to do. the whole hysteria over them just doesn't make sense to me, enjoy them "if" you see them, because many people visit the island and barely get a glimpse of them whilst they are there.
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Looks like the Dingos are very active in the area we are camping based upon the lasted conditions report. being a 1st time for us we really don't know what to expect so i guess we will be hanging with the group most if not at all times.
owwwwwwww!!!!
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All I can suggest is to become familiar with information regarding dingoes, which is available on the DERM site. Educate the whole family especially the children what to do and not to do, this also extends to all adults. The video may be good for the little ones.
Dingo safety video
http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/media/parks_and_forests/dingo_csa.wmv (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/media/parks_and_forests/dingo_csa.wmv)
General Dingo information
http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/fraser-island-dingoes.html (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/fraser-island-dingoes.html)
Dingo management information
http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/dingo-management.html (http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/dingo-management.html)
DERM WARNING
Fraser Island's dingoes are wild and unpredictable. They are possibly one of the purest populations of dingo in Australia and are protected by law. You cannot feed dingoes or any wildlife on Fraser Island. Rangers do check and you will be fined. Plan carefully to be dingo-safe. Follow the guidelines given in brochures and signs.
Bring strong lockable containers to lock up food and rubbish from animals. Do not hang rubbish, food, fish, bait or burley from cars, trees or tents.
Be dingo-safe at the rubbish bins
Never go alone or at night.
Leave no rubbish lying around—bin everything!
If a bin is full, please use another.
Important: report dingo encounters
Please report any negative or close encounter with dingoes to the nearest ranger as soon as you can. Alternatively, phone (07) 5486 9966 or email dingo.ranger@derm.qld.gov.au
Be dingo-safe. Always be close (within 5 metres) to your children. Keep food and waste locked in your vehicle at night.
All wildlife is protected. Approach dingoes, resting shorebirds and all other wildlife slowly, and carefully drive around them.
Everytime we go to Fraser I read up on what to do in case a dingo is around so I am prepare.
I just send in yogi ;D No seriously we are in their home so it's important to know what to do to protect all.
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Local Girl dingo story.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/07/18/511695_national-news.html (http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/07/18/511695_national-news.html)
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Local Girl dingo story.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/07/18/511695_national-news.html (http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/07/18/511695_national-news.html)
A few news stories are also reporting that it can't be confirmed it was actually a dingo that the park had been experiencing some problems with dogs. Just the common part was the colouring. We were in Kakadu in 2010 and witnessed a dingo/dog (was a mix) open an esky for the food, so that is why we will all be keeping our campsite nice and boring.
Lets respect the dingo in its domain as I hate hearing stories of a dingo being put down due to human interaction leading to it being a pest.
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Local Girl dingo story.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/07/18/511695_national-news.html (http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/07/18/511695_national-news.html)
we stayed at that very park last year and the people in reception warned us about the wild dogs that enter the park on sunset, we were warned not to leave shoes and towels or food etc out, as the dogs would steal it. i doubt very much the dog even knew someone was in the sleeping bag as it went to steal it, the media have beaten this story up big time IMHO.
i'm not alone in my thoughts either, i read this on exploreoz forum earlier....
Oh dear, never let the facts get in the way of a good headline!
I watched the interview with the mother and girl last night.
They were interviewed outside the caravan.
They had been warned previously not to leave any towels, footware, clothing outside at night because the dingos come around and take them.
The girl wanted to sleep outside the van in her sleeping bag and her mother agreed to this.
The girl was not in a swag, nor did she have any other external covering over the bag.
In the night, she felt something tugging at the bag and woke to find a dingo pulling at the foot of the bag
She sat up and yelled at the dingo and it immediately ran away.
The bag had a rip in the covering near the foot of the bag.
The girl was not at any stage attacked by the dingo.
So much for the facts as reported by the mother and girl.
Headlines?
"Dingo drags 13 year old in sleeping bag" Not so.
"Dingo rips sleeping bag off teen camper" Not so.
"Dingo drags girl from van" Not so.
So much for accurate reporting
Cheers
Andrew
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This is a funny read. Not for the German tourist though....:-)
http://www.news.com.au/national/dingo-attacks-tourist-on-fraser-island/story-fndo4eg9-1226437501031 (http://www.news.com.au/national/dingo-attacks-tourist-on-fraser-island/story-fndo4eg9-1226437501031)
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I have never been to Fraser Island, but I am surprised by this attack. People must have been feeding the dingoes or something, as normally dingoes are very scared of people, and will get away frequently before you see them. I am only talking from experience around Lake Gregory, we have heaps of dingoes, and we rarely see them, they are gone when they hear a car.
Predators (and dingoes are just that), are not a creature that can be successfully tamed, they will always turn, but for dingoes to attack people, that sounds more like a defensive mode than a hunting mode. I could be wrong, but that is from my own experiences.
Regards
Tjupurula
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I have never been to Fraser Island, but I am surprised by this attack. People must have been feeding the dingoes or something, as normally dingoes are very scared of people, and will get away frequently before you see them. I am only talking from experience around Lake Gregory, we have heaps of dingoes, and we rarely see them, they are gone when they hear a car.
Predators (and dingoes are just that), are not a creature that can be successfully tamed, they will always turn, but for dingoes to attack people, that sounds more like a defensive mode than a hunting mode. I could be wrong, but that is from my own experiences.
Regards
Tjupurula
Dingo's on Fraser are far from scared of people. They see humans as a supply of food ie scrapes left around and food tubes left open for easy access. They will happily wander through your camp....Cam Champion had one tear his wheel carrier rubbish bag trying to get to the rubbish inside the fully sealed bag....
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Hi Teabag
I guess for dingoes to be behaving in such a way, people have fed them at some stage, otherwise they would not relate people to food, they would see people as danger. I understand that such attacks must be horrific, but I blame the people who have allowed the dingoes to lose their fear by feeding them. They are most definitely not a pet.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Hi Teabag
I guess for dingoes to be behaving in such a way, people have fed them at some stage, otherwise they would not relate people to food, they would see people as danger. I understand that such attacks must be horrific, but I blame the people who have allowed the dingoes to lose their fear by feeding them. They are most definitely not a pet.
Regards
Tjupurula
Bud, I think there are many, many reasons for dingos to be the way they are on Fraser and nearly all are our fault and the tree huggers......Attacks on Fraser will continue to happen and my guess would be more frequently. Hence when we stayed there at Christmas we stayed at Dilli Village which is fully Dingo fenced. Gave peace of mind with the kids as I have a some to be 5 and 4 year old. You would regularly see Dingos patrolling outside the fence......It's only going to get worst...
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I will be honest, if we had any kind of problem like that, which we get sometimes with camp dogs gone feral, we just get the rifles out and solve the problem. I know that probably cannot be done there, but sometime common sense will have to prevail,. and the dingoes will have to be dispatched.
Tjupurula
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We stayed near Eurong about 3 yrs ago and they were cunning menaces. It's the locals who feed them that cause them to be so tame. They would descend on the camp site in a group, say 3-4 in view on one side to distract you. Meanwhile another 1-2 would be sneaking around the other side of the site looking for food. Broke into a tent in this way and helped themselves whilst we were looking the other way. Have been going to Fraser for 30yrs on and off, but no more after that experience. With 2 youngsters it's too much of a risk, and besides unless you camp at one of the dedicated grounds fires are banned, and a fire at the beach is one of life's great free pleasures IMO.
Enjoy yourselves all...
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http://www.news.com.au/national/dingo-attacks-tourist-on-fraser-island/story-fndo4eg9-1226437501031 (http://www.news.com.au/national/dingo-attacks-tourist-on-fraser-island/story-fndo4eg9-1226437501031)
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sounds like another drunk backpacker to me lol
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How you could get lost in that small area around the Kgari camp is beyond me, the scrub is not even that thick there and the beach is only a 100m to 200m away.
Good thing he wasnt in Africa and wandered off.
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I think the rangers shot the backpacker and gave the dingo a little gold star.
I hope so....
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I think the rangers shot the backpacker and gave the dingo a little gold star.
I hope so....
;D ;D ;D
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Dingo ate my sauerkraut!!
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sounds like another drunk backpacker to me lol
they are by far a bigger problem on the island then the dingo's IMHO
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they are by far a bigger problem on the island then the dingo's IMHO
We were there in Sept 2011 and agree with the above.
Noticed it on our first visit.....
Ian....
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Until this backpacker was attacked I don't remember too many reports of attacks on adults (especially blokes).
Sounds pretty vicious too, not just a nip on the ear.
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Until this backpacker was attacked I don't remember too many reports of attacks on adults (especially blokes).
Sounds pretty vicious too, not just a nip on the ear.
i guess when your blind rotten drunk and passed out on the ground (sorry i meant disoriented and having a sleep), it's hard to shout at the dingo and scare it off ;)
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Just a bit unfortunate that the tourist didn't understand about dingo safety.....bit harsh to bag him too much.......lots of people have drunk too much at some time...pity his friends didn't stop him from wandering off !!
Always gonna have a problem when there are too many people trying to see the island and because of this, the dingoes are getting more and more "tame"..
Whats going to suffer....afraid the dingo is.....the tourist dollar will see to that..
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At least one dingo visited our camp every night. Didn't bother me, I was asleep in my swag. We had no food out and our rubbish was way up high so it just moved on. Laith could hear the dingo on the tarp next to his swag, so they cleaerly get right up close, not sure I'd want to sleep in an older style open swag, I heard of a bloke who had the hat taken off his head whilst in a deep, alcohol induced sleep.
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As Julian said, there were dingos in and around our camps every day. There was a large cliff over looking our camp, one night we shon the torches up in the hills and spotted 3 dingoes looking down over us. Nearly every night a dingo was being pushed out of a camping area. The rangers said to use a shovel, camp chair or what ever you could to scare them away. Always lock your food away and place your rubbish in locked boxes or in your car. After all this, it wont stop me going back. I love the place.
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sounds like nothings changed with the dingo's....on all our past trips to the island, we would always find foot prints through our campsite each morning from when they had paid a visit during the night. keep your food and rubbish locked away and they don't cause any harm.
if you want to see dingo's then go to Fraser during tailor season and go for a drive up the beach at night time, you'll see plenty digging up the beach to get to the fish frames that have been buried there.