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Hi Guys.
I'm due for replacing my tyres on my BT-50.
I'm just undecided and after some advice on tyres.
I've beeb quoted 4 Bridgestone Duelers D697 for $215 each plus $100 cash back for buying 4.
I asked for a price on the BFG A/T KO2'S and was told 350 each.
Car does more highway than offroad but still want it to be somewhat capable off road.
Just after everyones thoughts and opinions and even welcome to other tyre suggestions.
Thanks guys.
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I was a BFG fan till I priced 285's.
Went with Bridgestone 697 and after 50,000kms reckon they are a better tyre.
Quieter, no tread chipping like the other and fine in sand.
Probably half my driving has been in remote WA and central Aussie towing a 2 tonne van.
Probably got another 30-40k kms in them and I will then get another set.
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697s are good value IMO. Quiet on road, wear well, good grip in the wet as they age, no tear outs and good off road performance for an A/T. Ive done thousands of kms off road corro work in the fully loaded Dmax and 2T single axle van without a problem.
I had the former 694s on the old Rodeo and they were really good too.
Just make sure the new ones are the LT's
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Another vote for the 697's. I've got 37,000km on mine, rotate every 10k. Next rotation 3 are going onto the trailer to replace the elderly tyres on there, and I'll put the best of the other 4 under the car.
I run 31x10.5s and get them around the $200 mark as well.
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Hi Guys.
I'm due for replacing my tyres on my BT-50.
I'm just undecided and after some advice on tyres.
I've beeb quoted 4 Bridgestone Duelers D697 for $215 each plus $100 cash back for buying 4.
I asked for a price on the BFG A/T KO2'S and was told 350 each.
Car does more highway than offroad but still want it to be somewhat capable off road.
Just after everyones thoughts and opinions and even welcome to other tyre suggestions.
Thanks guys.
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697s for $215 and cash back? where? That is less than I paid for a set couple of years ago. I would have them again without any concerns.
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697s for $215 and cash back? where? That is less than I paid for a set couple of years ago. I would have them again without any concerns.
Funnily enough at Costco.
And the $100 cash back is the bridgestone promo thsts running till the end of this month.
But good to hear good reports so far
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If you want "the look" BFGs are hard to beat. But the 697s are great value for money and will be great offroad. Sideall staking is not their strong point but unless you are pushing through virgin bush or less driven tracks you should be alright.
I have the Toyo AT2s and have been very happy with wear/noise/performance.
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Yokos have a buy 3 get one free deal at bob janes twice a year. I’m on my 3rd set of geo12’s. I rate them.
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Hi Bruce93, My new mate Garry that just lives up the road from me has a BT50 with around 100,000 on it, He put new 697s on his 4wd he and his wife in there 4wd and another couple in there BT50 with new BFGs Ko2s on it, they all went out through the dessert and then to the the big bash, My mate staked two tires and had to use his puncher repair kit. them tires are still on his 4wd and going well Garry recons they are a good tire he was just unlucky he said. the other fellow had no troubles, But that is how it can go sometimes, Craig
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Sideall staking is not their strong point but unless you are pushing through virgin bush or less driven tracks you should be alright.
Nab, just curious on how you came to that conclusion? ???
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Mickey ATZ P3's myself but in a 285x75
(https://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/assets/products/images/ac357bb3bd9d450f9e3a56a996ced799.png)
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Mickey ATZ P3's myself but in a 285x75
(https://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/assets/products/images/ac357bb3bd9d450f9e3a56a996ced799.png)
Me too, I find the 265/75 x 16LT to be a good all round tyre, yeah hahaha.
Had Cooper ST Maxx for a while 150k or more Km's out of them.
Tried the Mickey T's, as a change, and haven't been disappointed.
At $320.00 each they were cheaper than the Coopers as well.
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I run 33" ATZ P3s on the Wrangler, they're perfect for the 50/50 on-road/off-road driving that car does. Bit noisy, but good allrounders.
I stick with highway treads on the Triton for its 99.9999/0.0001 on-road/off-road driving..... ;)
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I have Nitto Terra Grappler G2's on the 200. They are a mild AT tyre. 20,000km on them so far and couldn't be happier. Wearing well. Slightest bit of noise at freeway speeds but otherwise silent. Grip like no other tyre I've ever had. Even with a 3T+ 'Cruiser they still stick like sh1t to a shovel, even in the wet. They've got higher load ratings than most other tyres (or did in my size - 285/60/18) so load carrying ability on a ute wouldn't be an issue and they were even fairly cheap which was an added bonus. Certainly under $300 a corner......from Bob Jane.
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Nab, just curious on how you came to that conclusion? ???
That conclusion came completely from following random threads in a few 4x4/camping forums over the last 10 of years. It's all comparative though, compared to a HT they are tough as nails, compared to the BFG AT they are not as strong in the sidewall. Someone's offroad is different to another's offroad too.
They are on par with many other similarly priced tyres.
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That conclusion came completely from following random threads in a few 4x4/camping forums over the last 10 of years. It's all comparative though, compared to a HT they are tough as nails, compared to the BFG AT they are not as strong in the sidewall. Someone's offroad is different to another's offroad too.
They are on par with many other similarly priced tyres.
Fair enough. Thanks
IMCO a lot of tyre damage is driver related more so than (name) brand related.
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So far thinking I will go ahead with the D697's.
Thanks for everyones input
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That conclusion came completely from following random threads in a few 4x4/camping forums over the last 10 of years. It's all comparative though, compared to a HT they are tough as nails, compared to the BFG AT they are not as strong in the sidewall. Someone's offroad is different to another's offroad too.
They are on par with many other similarly priced tyres.
NAB- probably true for th Brisgestone 694s but the 697s are a lot better tyre. I have just finished 15,000k including about 3,000 horrible offroad with my Yokokama Geolanders 275/65 x 17. Not a puncture or sign of tread damage. Definitely look at these and Bob Jane do a buy 3 get 4 deal quite often on these.
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Check out Monsta terrain grippers, was going to get d697's but the monsta's came out at less than $190 each in 265/60/18 fitted.
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Check out Monsta terrain grippers, was going to get d697's but the monsta's came out at less than $190 each in 265/60/18 fitted.
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How do you rate the monsta’s?
When I was looking for new tyres a while back I came very close to ordering a set but when I called a few places to get quotes for fitting they wouldn’t touch them citing “liability issues”
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Hi Guys.
I'm due for replacing my tyres on my BT-50.
I'm just undecided and after some advice on tyres.
I've beeb quoted 4 Bridgestone Duelers D697 for $215 each plus $100 cash back for buying 4.
I asked for a price on the BFG A/T KO2'S and was told 350 each.
Car does more highway than offroad but still want it to be somewhat capable off road.
Just after everyones thoughts and opinions and even welcome to other tyre suggestions.
Thanks guys.
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Could I just ask what size tyres you got quoted for the 697's at $215 a tyre? i just got quoted $380 a Tyre 265x70x17
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Could I just ask what size tyres you got quoted for the 697's at $215 a tyre? i just got quoted $380 a Tyre 265x70x17
$380? :o Try Kmart tyre and auto, they generally have them well priced.
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$380? :o Try Kmart tyre and auto, they generally have them well priced.
Im in the pilbara, i dont have that luxury unfortunately. and Yes i know we pay more here, but $165 a tyre more.........i rang another place and they said $395 a tyre!
But i ring Perth and its $255 a tyre, looks like ill be shopping in Perth and getting them brought up in the work sea container.
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Ahh, the real mining tax. You may find places online too.
https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/bridgestone/dueler_a-t_d697/265-70r17/130805?q=4 (https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/bridgestone/dueler_a-t_d697/265-70r17/130805?q=4)
https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/bfgoodrich/all-terrain_t-a_ko2/265-70r17/109248#step2 (https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/bfgoodrich/all-terrain_t-a_ko2/265-70r17/109248#step2)
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Could I just ask what size tyres you got quoted for the 697's at $215 a tyre? i just got quoted $380 a Tyre 265x70x17
Hey Mate.
I got quoted $215 a tyre for 265/65/17.
That was from costco which i dont think you'll have in the pilbara but i could be wrong...
Besides that closest i've seen them are around $235..
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Bruce, was that just for the tyres?
Or will they fit them as well?
Because It's going to cost money at another tyre fitters, if that's just for the tyres.
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Bruce, was that just for the tyres?
Or will they fit them as well?
Because It's going to cost money at another tyre fitters, if that's just for the tyres.
No thats complete price.
So includes fitment of tyres. Old tyre disposal. They fill the tyres with Nitrogen.
Also offer free wheel rotations and balances every 10K klms. And lastly they offer free puncture repairs for the lifetime of the tyres...
So not too bad of a deal in my opinion.
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That conclusion came completely from following random threads in a few 4x4/camping forums over the last 10 of years. It's all comparative though, compared to a HT they are tough as nails, compared to the BFG AT they are not as strong in the sidewall. Someone's offroad is different to another's offroad too.
They are on par with many other similarly priced tyres.
The reason I bought BFG after lots of research was about the stronger sidewalls. Granted I bought muddies which don’t chip but been very happy.
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No thats complete price.
So includes fitment of tyres. Old tyre disposal. They fill the tyres with Nitrogen.
Also offer free wheel rotations and balances every 10K klms. And lastly they offer free puncture repairs for the lifetime of the tyres...
So not too bad of a deal in my opinion.
wonder if they are Aussie stock and ADR approved or American DOT tyres. Wonder what the difference is.
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Bruce93 Do Costco Let you buy them without paying the joining fee (buyers club) scheme they run?
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Currently in Darwin so decided to get new tyres. Wanting the bridgestone but out of stock so went with the BF Goodrich. 265/75/16.
Cost $292 per tyre
Sell the old bridgestones back in the community for $200 each. ($800)
New tyres end up costing $92 each
The bridgestones are 2 years old and some have chunks of tread missing due to the roads up here. Bridgestones originally cost me $230 each.
Happy dance ;D
Mark
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We had a set of Bridgestone MTs fitted 2015, great price, they were good on & offroad, but they wore out a hell of a lot quicker than previous BFG MT's did. False economy in my books. We switched back to BFG. Bear in mind they were MTs
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Bruce93 Do Costco Let you buy them without paying the joining fee (buyers club) scheme they run?
To purchase anything at Costco you need to have a member card. Whether their fuel, tyres or anything else. When I looked I would of still been in front even with the membership cost, (yes there were cheaper tyres available elsewhere but I wanted the d697 and these were the cheapest I could get by a long way) but that was about 2 years ago. The D697 are going well with plenty of time on sand. The nitrogen fill lasted about a week before I let half of it out to hit the beach.
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How do you rate the monsta’s?
When I was looking for new tyres a while back I came very close to ordering a set but when I called a few places to get quotes for fitting they wouldn’t touch them citing “liability issues”
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Very happy, i know a few blokes running them in AT and MT and no issues.
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I'm also in the market for new tyres for the Patrol. I want tough tyres for the Kimberly trip next year.
Tyresales has KO2s for $291 and D697s for $267.
Any thoughts on these or other options? I'm in Melbourne.
Cheers
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Bob Jane is running a special at the moment.
I got quoted $309 fitted for BFG KO2 AT. 265x17x70's
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Thanks Nomad, Bob Jane has advertised D697s for $229 in 70 ratio. I wonder what the price of 265 75 16 is?
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I'm also in the market for new tyres for the Patrol. I want tough tyres for the Kimberly trip next year.
Tyresales has KO2s for $291 and D697s for $267.
Any thoughts on these or other options? I'm in Melbourne.
Cheers
Had 697s on Ranger in the Kimberley last year. No issues just reduce the pressure and drive to the conditions. Would happily buy them again.
I have Pirelli scorpions on the ex WA Department of Parks Prado I now own.
Conincidentally was helping on a project on Dirk Hartog Island a week ago with the previous driver of my car. He reckons Pirellis are better than Bridgestones and he does a lot of work in remote areas.
But he did stake a Pirelli this trip. Just as he staked a 697 a previous time I was with him at Lorna Glen, east of Wiluna. I may not be invited again.
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rossm, which Pirellis? Tyresales has MTR for $231 and ATR for $267
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rossm, which Pirellis? Tyresales has MTR for $231 and ATR for $267
ATR.
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Tempe tyres have Scorpion ATR for $209 fitted or delivered if your not in Sydney. Kmart are about to fit mine for $205 per tyre price match. LT265/70R17.
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thanks :cup:
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D697's all the way! Tough as nails. Not too noisy. Despite being made in Indonesia, they are speced for Australian conditions unlike others imports. By Australian conditions, I mean driving all day in 40° heat over sharp stones.
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Hey Mate.
I got quoted $215 a tyre for 265/65/17.
That was from costco which i dont think you'll have in the pilbara but i could be wrong...
Besides that closest i've seen them are around $235..
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Definatly no costco in the Pilbara, in fact I dont even know what costco is ;D
I recently got some Toyo Open County A/T's locally here 265/65/17- $335 each. BFG same size $380. I looked at tyre sales and the tyres there are significatly cheaper, but here in Tom Price I would need to pay the local tyre company to fit them, which worked out in the end to be only $30 - $40 cheaper total. For that I choose to support the local business's and just get them locally.
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60,000km so far on this set of D697LT's. They're probably half-worn, but I rotate them every 10,000km (free because I bought them at Bridgestone). We've done Lawn Hill, Tanami track, Mt Dare, Simpson, Birdsville twice, corner country, Strez etc on them. I drop them to about 28psi on the gravel which seems to work well. Probably 15k of dirt/sand and 45k of bitumen so far. No chipping at all.
Next year I plan to buy a set of Mickey Thompson MTZ's on steelies which I will use for a Cape trip and subsequent bush trips. I'll keep the Bridgestones for commuting to work and they should easily get to 100k. I had the 694LT on my previous vehicle and they still had reasonable tread at 90k, but were starting to feel a bit "hard"
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Hi mate, I'm new to this forum and this is my first post so I hope I can be of help.
I did a lot of research months ago for myself and baught a set of the Goodyear wrangler mtr with Kevlar. They have been a fantastic tyre. I have mainly done road use thus far and I have not experienced the usual negatives of the mud terrain. However if your looking for a more all terrain tyre my brother has a set of Nitto trail grapplers on his 200 series and they are unreal. Really quite and grippy for road use. Fantastic on sand and capable in soft slippery dirt. But are exceptional in dry dirt. Will be my next tyre if I go all terrain. They look pretty cool to.
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Nittos can be a bit of a pain to get in Australia. I was having a good yarn to the Toyo rep about this at the Sydney 4WD show. He was saying they are trying to get permission to officially import Nitto to Australia but Toyo mainly designed the Nitto brand and tyres aimed at the US market. All Nittos in Australia or grey or parallel imports thus could or can be old, so just be aware. Sometimes supply can also be an issue.
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We just recently switched from GY Duratac 285/75r16's to Toyo MT 255/85r16's as everyone is now raving about how great a skinny 33 is. There are some initial finds on our blog about this so I would go into too much detail. Thus far though I'd say the military and mining industry have it right. a skinny > a fat tyre.
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We run the BF Goodrich KM2's on both our cars. And if I'm honest the Jimny gets far more time driving around town than it does off-road - no significant road noise I wouldn't have anyway, even on the highways. Great mud tyres. I know a few people here have said they've had issues with them, but we've given ours a flogging on some outback roads in the Patrol and they haven't let us down! Its really the only tyre I can speak to based on experience but after running them for a while I have no reason to change. Yeah, they aren't cheap, but they have been faithful tyres for us.
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Hey guys.
I decided on the D697's.
So far have been very happy with their performance.
Will update this thread as time goes o.
Bruce
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Just wanted to add some late thoughts on the Duelers. We went with them and have so far only used them on the black top and I have to say I’m super impressed with their low noise and grip on wet roads. We basically went with them based on reviews from friends that have them and price compared to the KO2’s, also I had been in a car with KO2’s on and they seemed to be pretty noisy. As the vehicle is my wife’s daily drive tyre noise was a consideration and after her first drive she commented that they seems to are no more noise that the HT tyres that we replaced
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This is a summary of US consumer feedback: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/reviews/MenuServlet?search=surveyComments (https://www.tirerack.com/tires/reviews/MenuServlet?search=surveyComments)
As for cost, the only crowd willing to talk on price on the tyres I use has been K-Mart Tyre and Auto, and I save a bundle there.
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I have switched to some Yokohama Geolander GO15’s on my patrol.
They did very well on the sand in Finke River Gorge.
Took them on Binns track through to Oodnadatta track and into the Flinders. As most will know there are some pretty sharp rocks out that way.
I have been impressed with how they have worn. 7500km trip, no punctures, tyres show very little signs of cutting and chipping.
Vehicle’s rear axle was up around 2000kg, I would purchase again, I am having my new trailer fitted with them actually.
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I was lucky enough a while ago to get a set of Kumho MT 51s buy 4 pay for 3 ended up about $198.
http://www.kumho.com.au/tyres/4x4/road-venture-mt51/ (http://www.kumho.com.au/tyres/4x4/road-venture-mt51/)
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All Nittos in Australia or grey or parallel imports thus could or can be old, so just be aware. Sometimes supply can also be an issue.
Interesting. So I wonder whether the Nittos I bought from Bob Jane a couple of years ago were legit or not?
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I had a couple of sets of Deulers on my work vehicle and I was the opposite as in I found them to be extremely noisy. I got the second set as I inherited the first set on the vehicle and it looked like they hadn't been rotated properly but the second set was (every 10K) and didn't notice a difference. Lasted to about 60K before I changed them.
Have heard good reports on Pirelli Scorpion ATRs so was thinking I would give these a try on the wife's Pajero. Have also had Hankook Dynapros on previous vehicles and they seemed pretty good also (approx 60K) and were cheap at something like $215 fitted at the time.
It's a smorgasbord of tyres out there so good luck
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I have switched to some Yokohama Geolander GO15’s on my patrol.
They did very well on the sand in Finke River Gorge.
Took them on Binns track through to Oodnadatta track and into the Flinders. As most will know there are some pretty sharp rocks out that way.
I have been impressed with how they have worn. 7500km trip, no punctures, tyres show very little signs of cutting and chipping.
Vehicle’s rear axle was up around 2000kg, I would purchase again, I am having my new trailer fitted with them actually.
Same here. Did great central rd, Gibb river rd, and pilbara. Also beach fishing around perth. Not a mark on them. Got a buy 3 get 4 from bob jane so more than happy. 275/65 x 17s total price for 4 around $1000
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Interesting. So I wonder whether the Nittos I bought from Bob Jane a couple of years ago were legit or not?
Bob Jane and another company called YHI are both importers of Nitto Tyres. Bob Jane is a retailer and YHI are purely wholesale and sell to the other stores. There is often a bit of rivalry between them.
Nitto is a great tyre and are made by Toyo
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Same here. Did great central rd, Gibb river rd, and pilbara. Also beach fishing around perth. Not a mark on them. Got a buy 3 get 4 from bob jane so more than happy. 275/65 x 17s total price for 4 around $1000
Changed to yokis 12 months ago, great tire in the wet and dry, performing well re wear only negative slightly noisier than the old bridgestones.