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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2014, 10:21:19 AM »
Started the survey and have the same problems with the questions.

None of your business how much my family makes.

Couldn't get past question 22 & 23 as I haven't and most likely won't buy something advertised on the mag.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2014, 12:50:32 PM »
Carlise,
as much as i love the mag sometimes I find your writing a bit too deep if that makes sense; (but i did see you reply that you are heading down a different path to the off the shelf 30 year old mags)
and in the last mag you used the same image 3 times......
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2014, 01:41:17 PM »
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2014, 03:30:00 PM »
All,
Thanks again for your feedback. We have updated the questions to accommodate your concerns.
Those of you who already filled it out, you are already in the running.
For anyone who hasn't yet, I think we've made it a smoother process now.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2014, 03:39:58 PM »
Really enjoyed the first couple of magazines that I bought but am now a bit over the philosophical style of writing. Just seem to buy it for the pictures now. Helps remind me why I work were I do, to get out there sooner.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2014, 03:54:23 PM »
I brought the first subscription but, I also con not get use to your style of writing. I ask my wife to read one of the mags and she said it was like reading Mills and Boon, with out the sex  ;D.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2014, 04:09:17 PM »
I'm guilty of not buying a mag of any kind for a very long time, same for the other half.
Reason is, well, for me, ho hummm, I get bored with them to easily.
If Carlisle is trying to make a touring mag that is about more then just tubular bar work and beers, that must be a good thing. If a touring mag goes to a bit of trouble to "Introduce" the reader to something different, how is that not a good thing, is't that what touring is about? That could be poetry, fishing, a great new book, what ever, they are relative to touring. Or, how about events in towns, such as a Quilt display, what is wrong with a mag giving mention about this event, granted, 4 page spread may be a bit much.
Touring is about these things and more, plus meeting other folk, learning something new.

Seen as Carlisle has given such an honest response to this post and the few negative comments, and has addressed the survey he is trying to conduct, I shall now go out of my way to find this mag, and then hope to have myself parked on a camp chair soon to read it.
Anyone in business who can admit something is amiss, then address it intelligently, earns my respect.
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2014, 04:14:16 PM »
I'm guilty of not buying a mag of any kind for a very long time, same for the other half.
Reason is, well, for me, ho hummm, I get bored with them to easily.
If Carlisle is trying to make a touring mag that is about more then just tubular bar work and beers, that must be a good thing. If a touring mag goes to a bit of trouble to "Introduce" the reader to something different, how is that not a good thing, is't that what touring is about? That could be poetry, fishing, a great new book, what ever, they are relative to touring. Or, how about events in towns, such as a Quilt display, what is wrong with a mag giving mention about this event, granted, 4 page spread may be a bit much.
Touring is about these things and more, plus meeting other folk, learning something new.

Seen as Carlisle has given such an honest response to this post and the few negative comments, and has addressed the survey he is trying to conduct, I shall now go out of my way to find this mag, and then hope to have myself parked on a camp chair soon to read it.
Anyone in business who can admit something is amiss, then address it intelligently, earns my respect.

Well said Dave. I might go buy this mag as well.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2014, 05:35:29 PM »
still doesn't have other in the "what 4wd would you like to buy"

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2014, 06:31:14 PM »
Carlisle is getting beat up in his own thread. I may as well stick my boot in too lol

Several times you have asked for some sort of contribution from forum members I have emailed what you wanted and have never received a reply, no feedback, no thanks no anything.

Not that that has anything to do with your magazine just letting you know :)
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2014, 06:47:25 PM »
Oh come on fellas stop the rubbish about your vehicle not being listed.

Smart people drive a cruiser or a prado. Bogans drive patrols and the only other one is pajero for Nuffies who buy the cheap version of a prado.

So if u r smart just tick Toyota.

If u r missing a few teeth and drive watching the temp gauge then tick patrol.

If you are of the Scottish persuasion click pajero.

It's not difficult. 




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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2014, 06:50:52 PM »
Oh come on fellas stop the rubbish about your vehicle not being listed.

Smart people drive a cruiser or a prado. Bogans drive patrols and the only other one is pajero for Nuffies who buy the cheap version of a prado.

So if u r smart just tick Toyota.

If u r missing a few teeth and drive watching the temp gauge then tick patrol.

If you are of the Scottish persuasion click pajero.

It's not difficult. 




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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2014, 06:52:09 PM »
Obviously you don't expect females to fill out your survey. Since gay marriage is still not legal, there won't be a lot of females who travel with their wife.  Partner is gender neutral, but it should be either partner only, or spouse/partner or wife/husband/partner.

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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2014, 06:58:37 PM »

I shall now go out of my way to find this mag, and then hope to have myself parked on a camp chair soon to read it.
oh I see, you've got speewa's camp chair?

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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2014, 07:03:24 PM »
oh I see, you've got speewa's camp chair?

From what I have read, it is in that Tent your standing Guard over.....
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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2014, 07:05:41 PM »

From what I have read, it is in that Tent your standing Guard over.....
no, apparently that's xcavator proudly displaying his big gun!

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2014, 07:09:04 PM »
None of your business how much my family makes.
I have to agree.
Why would that make any differance to a magazine anyway?
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2014, 07:30:22 PM »
Wow, thank you for the responses all - both the constructive (and vitriolic) feedback.




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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2014, 07:39:43 PM »
None of your business how much my family makes.

I have to agree.
Why would that make any differance to a magazine anyway?
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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2014, 07:50:29 PM »
Someone is looking for a fight. Where is the pop corn, na bugga it, gime a beer!

PS, what Nationality am I if I have a busted Jackaroo in the shed for 6 weeks and still not working?

I'm just trying to help - really I am.   :angel:
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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2014, 08:06:29 PM »
PS, what Nationality am I if I have a busted Jackaroo in the shed for 6 weeks and still not working?

Ozf^ckingstralian of course.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2014, 08:15:23 PM »


I bought the first 10 magazines, but got bored with the overly intellectual blah, blah, blah, with what I believe was little further information to what has been "done before".  I stopped purchasing as I felt you were visiting the all too famous Top 10 and doing the very over done blah, blah, blah articles on them and getting no "deeper" than anyone else.  There is much more to those Top 10 destinations, than the destinations themselves.  The Journey ... it's the before and after of any good destination and not often taken into account when writing articles in any magazine.  Things like (and this one is a biggie) the preparations or lack thereof, the dust, the flies, the staked tyres, the things that go wrong, the broken beer bottles, the heat, the cold, the rain, the 4,000 other yobbos in attendance, the offending dumped garbage, the toilet paper wattles, the scary stuff like snakes, spiders, and other such stuff that goes bump in the night ... we always seem to see these places in magazines in pristine conditions ... which isn't how you actually find them when you are there.

Loved the photographs.  I always wanted to be The Post Office Photographer (Steve Parish for those who don't often visit PO's) personally, so feel I can appreciate a good photo when I see it.  I've added wanting to be a Carlisle to the list.  It'll never happen though ... I don't know enough or know the right people to "make it".

I felt you had some uninteresting content.  Advertising, comparisons, cooking, book reviews, music reviews, etc.  It's page turning stuff!   ;D

Overall I felt your magazine was good.  Better than some, same as some.  The photography is a standout for me.  After the first 10 however, I haven't purchased any further editions. 

Never seen your "show" so that's all I know about that.

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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2014, 08:18:58 PM »
Sorry still couldn't answer some of the questions truthfully so that puts me out.

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Re: 4WD Touring Australia - survey
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2014, 08:38:28 PM »
Obviously you don't expect females to fill out your survey. Since gay marriage is still not legal, there won't be a lot of females who travel with their wife.  Partner is gender neutral, but it should be either partner only, or spouse/partner or wife/husband/partner.

Whilst not legally married, we see ourselves as such so I put "wife" for that question. For the other questions that i couldnt answer specifically, I just did what I thought logical, the closest to accurate that was possible.

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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2014, 08:47:52 PM »
Carlisle,

 I buy your mag every so often, didn't even know about it till about a year ago. I don't buy a lot of mags anymore, mainly because the others are just so rehashed.

The reason i buy yours is because the stories are new, the way you write is refreshing albeit a little hard to casually read as your words are a little out of grasp for the average yob like myself, though in saying this i also appreciate that you are writing the way you want to, and i'll admit that i have at times looked up definitions of some of the words you use to find out wtf they mean, so thanks for the education.

I love the pics in the mag, i like the insight into music you've found, and i llike the little philosophy quotes here and there..etc

I think i get what your mag is about, it's not exclusivley about 4wd's, about camping, 4wd mods...... i thinks it's about trying to capture all the things that we do that get us out "touring" and why we tour/travel..... it's about new experiences, new people, tastes, smells sigts and sounds.......... the whole package. And for under $10 a month, it's worth it to me.

Here are some lyrics you might like, it's from the song Hound Dog, by Cold Chisel..... I particularly like the last four lines...........to me "the motion", the journey, is the very essence of travelling, not particularly the destination.

Leave the waves and change the culture
Choose a far off name that suites ya
Bali, Bangkok, overland
Asian highway, Amsterdam
Always some town unexplored
And in the end
It's the motion, it's its own reward
It's just the motion.




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