Author Topic: (Heading changed)Cheap Chinese Poly Hitch Failure (PICS NOW UP) (Read 71871 times)

oldmate · « **Reply #75 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:31:09 AM »

This has been a great thread to make people go and check there hitches. I went and checked mine and it seems to be genuine with all SA markings on block and hitch.

Glad it is getting sorted for you jeepers in a professional manner, as it should.

Mandrake · « **Reply #76 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:26:39 AM »

Quote from: baldheadedgit on March 04, 2013, 05:55:26 PM

BHG

PS. i will be emailing the person who sold me mine to... gunna get rite up him i am.. so watch out buddy. i'm gunna get ya

I hope its alright mate !! - I don't want a " bad " email !!

Mandrake

Marschy · « **Reply #77 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:01:47 AM »

Checked mine and yep, same as Jeepers hitch. Got me worried now.

Contacted Trigg at Forestville, the PB701-ASSY including bolt and nut for attaching to towbar (complete) $130

Treg polycoupling complete with lynch pin and spring pin is $89.99

For the sake of $40 the Trigg looks a lot better quality.

Cheers, Marschy

Bird · « **Reply #78 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:06:29 AM »

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers

Sorry, but that looks home made, and then flogged on ebay. (not by you, *someone*)

Marschy · « **Reply #79 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:12:30 AM »

But the design of the Treg is not all that dissimilar.

My concern with either the knock-off or the genuine Treg is, if you spread too much Vegemite on your Weet-Bix (breakfast of champions) and get a little too carried away tightening up the nut, could the same thing occur to a genuine Treg?

Bird · « **Reply #80 on:** March 05, 2013, 09:17:36 AM »

Quote from: Marschy on March 05, 2013, 09:12:30 AM

But the design of the Treg is not all that dissimilar

agree, but that *looks* cheap. the photo of the Tregg, looks worlds apart for strength.

Maybe its the "Supercheap" silver paint.

JCOJ · « **Reply #81 on:** March 05, 2013, 11:12:05 AM »

Quote from: Marschy on March 05, 2013, 09:12:30 AM

But the design of the Treg is not all that dissimilar.

My concern with either the knock-off or the genuine Treg is, if you spread too much Vegemite on your Weet-Bix (breakfast of champions) and get a little too carried away tightening up the nut, could the same thing occur to a genuine Treg?

Treg have been around making trailers and associated parts since 1947 and I have never heard of one of their genuine hitches failing at all.

I had a custom offroad trailer made by them and I took photos of every stage of the build and their quality and attention to detail is astounding.

Every bolt from every manufacturer could be susceptable to over tightenening in the same way - I wouldn't be singling out Treg.

Marschy · « **Reply #82 on:** March 05, 2013, 12:26:02 PM »

Not knocking the quality of Treg, but the Trigg design is better in my opinion. There is less likely hood of failure with the Trigg design due to the fact that the bolt and the coupling are not welded together.

My understanding as well is the Trigg design has ADR approval, but after a visit to Treg's premises 2 minutes ago, they are not ADR compliant as there is no stamping on the coupling to indicate it is. Having said that it is a lot better quality than my Chinese knockoff.

I will visit Trigg tomorrow to see for myself if their couplings are ADR compliant.

Cheers, Marschy

briann532 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 05, 2013, 03:22:33 PM »

Quote from: Marschy on March 05, 2013, 09:01:47 AM

Checked mine and yep, same as Jeepers hitch. Got me worried now.

Contacted Trigg at Forestville, the PB701-ASSY including bolt and nut for attaching to towbar (complete) $130

Treg polycoupling complete with lynch pin and spring pin is $89.99

For the sake of $40 the Trigg looks a lot better quality.

Cheers, Marschy

Yep, thats what mine looks like. Gusseted sides and strong as all heck.
Doubt I'll have a problem with it. Certainly worth paying for.
Great articulation, strong and absolutely no reason to buy anything else (for me anyway)
Sound a bit like all the ARB gear I've got...............

Is DON is GOOD!!!!

alnjan · « **Reply #84 on:** March 05, 2013, 04:51:23 PM »

Yep same as what came with the camper I bought, Trigg Hitch

oldmate · « **Reply #85 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:26:54 PM »

Quote from: Marschy on March 05, 2013, 12:26:02 PM

Not knocking the quality of Treg, but the Trigg design is better in my opinion. There is less likely hood of failure with the Trigg design due to the fact that the bolt and the coupling are not welded together.

My understanding as well is the Trigg design has ADR approval, but after a visit to Treg's premises 2 minutes ago, they are not ADR compliant as there is no stamping on the coupling to indicate it is. Having said that it is a lot better quality than my Chinese knockoff.

I will visit Trigg tomorrow to see for myself if their couplings are ADR compliant.

Cheers, Marschy

So is the receiver(poly block) etc ADR compliant and the coupling (Towbar side) not?

Marschy · « **Reply #86 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:48:26 PM »

Quote from: oldmate on March 05, 2013, 05:26:54 PM

So is the receiver(poly block) etc ADR compliant and the coupling (Towbar side) not?

Towbar side definitely not. Don't know about the poly block side, but I suspect they are, probably AS4177.6. The towbar side is stamped with '3000KG' but to the best of my knowledge that doesn't indicate ADR compliance.

oldmate · « **Reply #87 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:51:11 PM »

yeah thanks mate, my poly block has adr markings but the coupling doesnt anywhere i could see, either you would think that they would hane to get it complied as a kit ( so to speak)

Marschy · « **Reply #88 on:** March 05, 2013, 05:58:43 PM »

Looking at the Trigg web site I can't make out from the photo's of their coupling if they are compliant. The web page description is a bit ambiguous, so I'll duck out there tomorrow to have a look. I can't tell from the ADR website I found if the coupling even needs to be compliant, I'll ask a few questions when I get there.

Jeepers Creepers · « **Reply #89 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:01:26 PM »

Well boys and girls......

The trailer is home again with a gen-ewe-ine TREG hitch.

Its got TREG stamped on both main parts, on the poly blog and has the sticker as well and looks way better than what i had.

The workshop had a turn around time of 25 hours from when the trailer arrived to when i was informed it was finished.
They offered to deliver, but i said i'd go and get it, as they'd done a great job and i didn't want to be seen to be hanging them out to dry.

The old one is on its way back to the wholesaler for them to deal with.

So, 10 out of 10 to TREG for the assistance and info.
Also, 10 out of 10 to Cooloola New Age Mechanical in Gympie for getting everything sorted as fast as they did. They were an innocent party like myself to a wrongly supplied hitch.

Now, i'm gunna give myself 10 out of 10 too, because i proved to myself, if you think before running off half cocked, you get way further in this sort of situation.

The only down side is, i wonder how many imported trailers "COULD" have hitch's fitted that are no better than what i had?

Makes ya think huh.

Marschy · « **Reply #90 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:03:59 PM »

3000kg stamped on it?

Jeepers Creepers · « **Reply #91 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:09:07 PM »

Quote from: Marschy on March 05, 2013, 09:12:30 AM

But the design of the Treg is not all that dissimilar.

My concern with either the knock-off or the genuine Treg is, if you spread too much Vegemite on your Weet-Bix (breakfast of champions) and get a little too carried away tightening up the nut, could the same thing occur to a genuine Treg?

No Marschy, on a TREG, the threaded section is wound into a thread cut in the hole of the hitch reciever, so the weld is simply there to stop in winding back out from vibration etc.

On a chinese junk one, they drill a hole, poke the threaded bit in and weld it from the top, so the weld or lack there of, is all thats stands between you and disaster.

Jeepers Creepers · « **Reply #92 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Marschy on March 05, 2013, 06:03:59 PM

3000kg stamped on it?

Yeah baby......

Marschy · « **Reply #93 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:11:42 PM »

Scary stuff. I've convinced the missus that our CT is not leaving the driveway until I've got this sorted.

One thing for sure, this POS is not going back on the towbar.

Can't tell if it's threaded, ain't gunna wait to find out the hard way.

Turbojohn · « **Reply #94 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:15:12 PM »

Mine has no adr markings on the receiver end only on the poly block itself. I would like to think that to comply with adr's, all the components of the hitch would need to comply but they only put the numbers on the block itself to save labour of stamping adr numbers onto every part

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Wrex · « **Reply #95 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:30:11 PM »

Quote from: Turbojohn on March 05, 2013, 06:15:12 PM

Mine has no adr markings on the receiver end only on the poly block itself. I would like to think that to comply with adr's, all the components of the hitch would need to comply but they only put the numbers on the block itself to save labour of stamping adr numbers onto every part

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Turbo i would think that is a good enough excuse to convince the Minister for Finance that a new camper is needed.

Turbojohn · « **Reply #96 on:** March 05, 2013, 07:00:41 PM »

Quote from: Wrex on March 05, 2013, 06:30:11 PM

Turbo i would think that is a good enough excuse to convince the Minister for Finance that a new camper is needed.

Haha I think she's onto me with them excuses. Problem is she's smarter than me!

fok · « **Reply #97 on:** March 05, 2013, 07:59:04 PM »

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 05, 2013, 06:01:26 PM

The only down side is, i wonder how many imported trailers "COULD" have hitch's fitted that are no better than what i had?

Makes ya think huh.
[Hope there saftey chains are of better quality.]

JU5T1N · « **Reply #98 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:32:53 PM »

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 05, 2013, 06:01:26 PM

The only down side is, i wonder how many imported trailers "COULD" have hitch's fitted that are no better than what i had?

Makes ya think huh.

Also makes me wonder about the grade of that said bolt....what shear strength etc???
Huge disaster potential there glad to see its been brought to everyones attention

laf · « **Reply #99 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:42:58 PM »

mine looks the same nothing stamped, could i get it welded to the tow toungue for peace of mind ??
cheers

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