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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: rockrat on April 09, 2020, 07:40:25 PM
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Earlier today, I said I was going to take a break from MySwag. Here’s why:
I have a teenage son. He has Asperger’s. He is becoming a real handful. Last weekend we had to call the cops to come and have a chat to him about his escalating anger and unacceptable behaviour. At the same time my teenage daughter is in her room, crying and scared.
As a parent that is absolutely heartbreaking. You start to wonder, what have you done wrong. How can you fix it? Can it be fixed?
To then read all the dumbass, racist, bigoted and anti-everything/everyone comments from a bunch of dickhead keyboard warriors on this forum is doing my head in.
So what if an indigenous community got an exemption to have more people at a funeral? If jigsaw puzzles are essential for mental health than I would suggest proper grieving is too. And don’t give me the BS about one rule for all. Aside from how laughable that is in the context of history, I thought seeking an exemption was open to everybody.
Until you have walked in someone else’s shoes.... just shut the F up. Staying at home 24x7 isn’t that easy for everyone!
I follow a number of FB groups and I can tell you, despite what some people think of FB, they are far more respectful than MySwag is, at least as it currently stands.
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Gday mate.
Sorry to hear you are taking a break.All good seeing your circumstances ATM. I will contact you soon, i have your number in that message you sent me last week.
Dont forget we are all here ( the ones who havent ticked you off) anytime you need to send a message,then message away.
Keep your chin up.
Cheers.
Mark.
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Thanks Rockrat, couldn’t have said it better myself. I too have been having a break as the site has deteriorated to unbearable, but tonight I logged in and seen your post.
Mate we have walked your shoes dealing with my wife’s brother with a similar diagnostic but something that wasn’t diagnosed until his twenties. I have seen the tormented it causes for both his mother and my wife as the only other sibling. This has gone ion now for fifty plus years ( he is now 57). You need to be strong and courageous.
Send me a msg if you want to talk further.
And with that I’m off for a break.
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Life takes preference. No point letting unknowns upset you when you have real problems in front of you. You're doing the right thing looking after your family. Good onya.
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Hey Rockrat,
You may already know of Tony Atwood here in Brisbane. No nonsense straight up explanations and strategies going forward.
As someone touched with the assberger stick i can give you real world veiws from the other side.
Triggers and meltdowns are high on the agenda. Routine is key for me. I could eat the same thing for every meal for months but the family not so much;)
Sport and personal achievements no matter how small. And honesty. Always honesty.
He wants to control his world when he sees and hears change.
There's plenty of room on the spectrum for us all.
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Hi Rockrat
I'm another one taking a break from here, still pop in from time to time because I used to get a lot from this forum but got tired of being attacked, so very rarely post anymore. I would like to see the mods take down all of the corona threads as they provide very little to the forum apart from putting the final nail in the coffin of what used to be the best forum going around, don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of over moderation but something has to be done.
I wish you and your family well, I have been dealing with, not the same, but similar problems for 38 years and it can be heartbreaking but still family is everything to me, I have three wonderful kids albeit one keeps sticking a dagger in my heart every now and then but I still love him and most of the time he does me. Good luck and stay safe
macca
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Rockrat, while you can only be applauded for wanting to spend precious time with your family, but don't feel you have to blame anything on a forum for the need to do this.
All forums can be offensive to anyone that receives a reply that they think attacks them personally. You can only get a reply if you post something in the 1st place, so depending on the subject, don't reply if you think a subject is heading in a direction you don't like.
There is a lot of useful information to be had on forums (Facebook included ) by not replying at all. Better to be a stalker than the hunted !!
I have been attacked......I have done a bit of attacking ( in retaliation ), but I've learnt that it's a web forum, and words alone can't hurt you.
Most people's intention isn't to abuse someone, but more that they haven't conveyed what they want to say in a perfect way when it got translated to text. And someone's idea of humor is not someone else's!
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Well said, gronk.... :cup: :cup:
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Well said, gronk.... :cup: :cup:
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Rockrat, while you can only be applauded for wanting to spend precious time with your family, but don't feel you have to blame anything on a forum for the need to do this.
All forums can be offensive to anyone that receives a reply that they think attacks them personally. You can only get a reply if you post something in the 1st place, so depending on the subject, don't reply if you think a subject is heading in a direction you don't like.
There is a lot of useful information to be had on forums (Facebook included ) by not replying at all. Better to be a stalker than the hunted !!
I have been attacked......I have done a bit of attacking ( in retaliation ), but I've learnt that it's a web forum, and words alone can't hurt you.
Most people's intention isn't to abuse someone, but more that they haven't conveyed what they want to say in a perfect way when it got translated to text. And someone's idea of humor is not someone else's!
Just for the record, I don’t feel I have been personally attacked.
It’s just the general tone of the posts and casual racism that has me ticked off.
Plus almost every post is now in ‘infected’ by talk of Coronavirus.
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Hi Rockrat
I'm another one taking a break from here, still pop in from time to time because I used to get a lot from this forum but got tired of being attacked, so very rarely post anymore. I would like to see the mods take down all of the corona threads as they provide very little to the forum apart from putting the final nail in the coffin of what used to be the best forum going around, don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of over moderation but something has to be done.
I wish you and your family well, I have been dealing with, not the same, but similar problems for 38 years and it can be heartbreaking but still family is everything to me, I have three wonderful kids albeit one keeps sticking a dagger in my heart every now and then but I still love him and most of the time he does me. Good luck and stay safe
macca
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Agree with you on the corona thread.Another thread that incites unrest is the RANT thread.( that will get the usual antagonists in top gear).
Most who become members on MySwag come here to find out information on camping & related stuff as well as 4wd and outdoors information.No one wants to know what ticks you off around town, how people park,what the News reported that you dont like and so on.I 'm not really interested if swaggers agree with me or not, its just my 2 cents worth.
Happy Easter to all Swaggers.
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Hi Rockrat - your post like a couple of others in the last day or two tugged at my heartstrings a bit. I can't imagine the pain your family must be going through and you have my sincere sympathy. I would encourage you to stay in touch though. This forum like so many other parts of society is showing signs of struggling in the current environment. I agree with you there is random evidence of racism but more importantly intolerance in general. We listen to radio, watch tele etc and everyone is preaching tolerance and often in the next breath criticise someone. I think a lot of psychology students will be observing how we as social animals cope with this isolation and will theorise for years to come on their findings. Hang in mate and watch the shenanigans of the mob on here from a distance. There's still a laugh or two to be had.
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Rockrat, while you can only be applauded for wanting to spend precious time with your family, but don't feel you have to blame anything on a forum for the need to do this.
All forums can be offensive to anyone that receives a reply that they think attacks them personally. You can only get a reply if you post something in the 1st place, so depending on the subject, don't reply if you think a subject is heading in a direction you don't like.
There is a lot of useful information to be had on forums (Facebook included ) by not replying at all. Better to be a stalker than the hunted !!
I have been attacked......I have done a bit of attacking ( in retaliation ), but I've learnt that it's a web forum, and words alone can't hurt you.
Most people's intention isn't to abuse someone, but more that they haven't conveyed what they want to say in a perfect way when it got translated to text. And someone's idea of humor is not someone else's!
Scrolling is good, just keep scrolling.
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It’s like every thread is becoming the Daily Rant thread....
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the place is dying...
Last one left, (bird?); ... ya can put out the lights..
Most times now - it's averaging about 1 post an hour, (maybe 20 a day)...
And some of those posts not much else than vitriol...
So many former members gone...
As I summarised and posted at the time Jeepers walked; in my opinion the rot started when the site's owners and the moderators failed to recognise the need to cull out the trolls and flamers...
That and often some members' detailed and considered, (well thought through) posts would receive little or nil comment or feedback; whilst a clique of keyboard buddies would all kiss and slap each other on the back ...no matter what they posted to each other, or about other members...
MySwag may have once been an awesome online community of like minded "swaggers" ... encouraging and supporting each other in a type of digital "Mens' Shed" -- but those days are long gone...
The place has had its day, unfortunately... and will never recover....
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MySwag may have once been an awesome online community of like minded "swaggers" ... encouraging and supporting each other in a type of digital "Mens' Shed" -- but those days are long gone...
You must be reading a different forum. Sure the posts have got a little slower, and there are more non camping posts, this is the nature of how all forums go when the community becomes more known to each other, it's now more an extension of a campfire chat. Cheer up, the sky hasn't fallen yet...
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I read some interesting sentiment being shared these last couple of days and I once again have to reiterate that this forum is what it is due to what the members tolerate. We mods will act if we see something contrary to the rules but we mostly have to rely on the members hitting that ‘report to moderator’ option. There is only two of us mods active and we are volunteers. I have in the past edited/deleted/locked posts and threads and copped an earful for my troubles.
If you lot are serious this forum needs a big clean up then say so. I will jump straight in and make it so.
It is Your choice.
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There is only two of us mods active and we are volunteers.
I mentioned this the other day as a big issue....
its unfair with how much this joint has expanded over the years for 2 people to try and spend their life on here controlling it - and as you said its a volunteer gig..
its happened in the past and will no doubt happen again
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The world as we know it has changed in the last 18 months, some events have brought us together, Fires/Floods, this event is something that none of us have ever experienced before.
Everyone will deal with their concerns/fears differently to the next.
What we all need is social contact, it is what makes us humans.
I believe the mods are doing the best they can, hey they are no different to us, many of us have camped with them, they have their concerns about what the future holds for them & their families and friends.
Thank you guys.
Ok,
I'm going to start a thread, What I am grateful for.
I would like to see every member post in that, at lest once a day.
Cheers.
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The place has had its day, unfortunately... and will never recover....
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The forum doesn't need to recover from anything. I find negative posts to be a real disappointment.
“Those who look for the bad in people will surely find it.” - Abraham Lincoln (but it applies here, too....)
Cheer up people... ;D ;D
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The forum doesn't need to recover from anything.
Cheer up people... ;D ;D
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Love ya work mate.
Cheers.
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Hello Geoff. I've had me a break from here myself for a while (for no reason other than my priorities have changed a little) and just dropped in to say I wish you a happy and healthy future. We may meet again one day. Cheers Mark
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Hello Geoff. I've had me a break from here myself for a while (for no reason other than my priorities have changed a little) and just dropped in to say I wish you a happy and healthy future. We may meet again one day. Cheers Mark
Hi Mark. Thanks for your kind wishes. I hope you and yours are all well.
I look forward to catching up again one day. Hopefully the opportunity will present itself soon.
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Hello Geoff. I've had me a break from here myself for a while (for no reason other than my priorities have changed a little) and just dropped in to say I wish you a happy and healthy future. We may meet again one day. Cheers Mark
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Hope it works out.
Take care.
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I don't come here to help form my opinion on politics, religion, climate change or electrical rules. I will sometimes posty opinion, if you don't like it then it doesn't worry me, each to his own.
As many have already said, it is the shared love of camping, and outdoors that I'm drawn to. When I see negative posts I scroll straight past them.
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Come n go...the real world is more important...glad you chose it over internet.
Friends will always be cool with whatever and in good sun will help out when they can...
Take care mate...my wife's cousin has the same deal but luckily he's coping ok.
Take care
We're all ere coz we ain't all there.
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Myswag is just the same as real life in my experience.
In real life there are a lot of negative, racist, anti anything type people and there are a lot of great people. So of course you will get the same thing on some online forums and even more so because some chose to remain mostly anonymous so they can say things they may not when face to face.
I still pop in here daily and most likely always will. I enjoy some of the threads and over the years some of the characters on here feel like friends I am catching up with daily. In fact some of the characters I do consider friends.
I do notice one or two that are anti most things and dont seem to have a positive bone in their body, but thats ok, we are all different. I for the most part just ignore them and have my say regardless ;D
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Myswag is just the same as real life in my experience.
In real life there are a lot of negative, racist, anti anything type people and there are a lot of great people. So of course you will get the same thing on some online forums and even more so because some chose to remain mostly anonymous so they can say things they may not when face to face.
I still pop in here daily and most likely always will. I enjoy some of the threads and over the years some of the characters on here feel like friends I am catching up with daily. In fact some of the characters I do consider friends.
I do notice one or two that are anti most things and dont seem to have a positive bone in their body, but thats ok, we are all different. I for the most part just ignore them and have my say regardless ;D
Well said. So true
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I don't come here to help form my opinion on politics, religion, climate change or electrical rules. I will sometimes posty opinion, if you don't like it then it doesn't worry me, each to his own.
As many have already said, it is the shared love of camping, and outdoors that I'm drawn to. When I see negative posts I scroll straight past them.
First post here for me in quite some time, but the fact this thread itself exists now doesn't surprise me at all, and i highlighted above in jonesy's reply what related to me.
My 2 cents on the subject for what it's worth......What I used to love about this forum was it was about camping and outdoors, sadly though over time the majority of posts were becoming less and less about camping and travel, and more about certain people's opinions on politics and religion, then now I see since I stopped posting here before them getting locked was about a dozen threads on Corona Virus, and in general just a constant theme of very negative attitudes (which was dragging me into a similar mindset, and not what I want in my life). Whilst I still do drop in to see what's happening here, i just can't be bothered posting here now due to the forum not being the same easy going place I remember it once was, somewhere that people respected other peoples views, and was more about having a laugh then people having a whinge.
I can't see this happening, but If the forum ever gets back to mostly being about people asking for info on future trips / holiday and camping locations and then posting up thier trip reports (these are rarer then hens teeth here now and has been for quite some time), and people posting about thier builds (yes I know that still exists and is great to see), and in general being a forum about camping and outdoors like it once was, then I may be interested in coming back and contributing here again (as much as that might pain some.....lol.). Some members will stand up for the forum as they themselves still enjoy posting here, and I understand that as i did the same when many of my mates left this forum several years ago, but where there's smoke there's fire, and there's a very good reason my mates left, then I chose to stop posting here and others are posting thier own similar views. Whilst this forum in general is nowhere near as bad as other forums are, and there are still some great folk on here that genuinely do care about others and do reach out to see if they are ok, and they do actually help others out, it doesn't mean there's no merit in what some of it's members that are choosing to walk or step away are saying. The mods here do a great job and I don't want them to take my view as criticism aimed at them, it's just my opinion on where the site has gone over time, and why I myself had chosen to stop posting on here.
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First post here for me in quite some time,
Your absence had been noted, Rummie :'(
While I do also agree with quite a bit of what you & others have said, I hope that you'll all hang on & hopefully get Swag back to where it was, & should be again!
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A lot of good swaggers have gone.
I took 3 months off to get away from the negative crap.
Too many Shits posts, just dragging folks down.
Been back a week, not much has changed.
Same ones stirring Shit and shoving their opinions down peoples throats.
For a long time, this was a fun site with the odd angry shot.
Now its like a shooting range with the odd happy shot.
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To then read all the dumbass, racist, bigoted and anti-everything/everyone comments from a bunch of dickhead keyboard warriors on this forum is doing my head in.
I've just gone into the Funny Photos 2020 thread for the first time this year, and the amount of racist insults that are in there relating to the Covid-19 pandemic is ridiculous. I know that some think that it's their local pub, but here you aren't known from Adam and the image of the forum and the users of the froum that is portrayed by that thread?
A bunch of racist bogans who are out of touch with the community norms.
Now, we get to some of the comments in this thread and we're back to the teenage boy smut humour (not even pub level really) - again, out of touch with many under the age of 40 - whilst it's funny for you, again think about how it portrays you to those who are just landing on the forum.
To the extent that if the mods and admins are serious about clearing up the forum, then those sorts of comments need knocking on the head - it's not something I'd say in the workplace, and probably not socially either - and nor is it something I'd expect to hear from someone.
On a lighter note, Rumpig made many good points - and I think that are some parts that need addressing in this section:
I can't see this happening, but If the forum ever gets back to mostly being about people asking for info on future trips / holiday and camping locations and then posting up thier trip reports (these are rarer then hens teeth here now and has been for quite some time), and people posting about thier builds (yes I know that still exists and is great to see), and in general being a forum about camping and outdoors like it once was, then I may be interested in coming back and contributing here again (as much as that might pain some.....lol.).
I think that the underlying problem that has killed off the trip reports is how hard it is to post pictures into this forum. You need to upload either a very small (file size of only 500kb) image and then set it to display full size, which was fine when a phone camera fired you out something small enough, but now most phones take a 5MB+ picture... so that doesn't work as well - and I really can't be faffed with re-sizing all my pictures to make them work.
The alternative is to host it elsewhere and then hotlink it across; Facebook isn't stable with the URLs any longer for this (they used to be, but then they wised up...) and Photobucket stopped doing free hotlinking.
Or you can use Tapatalk, and provide a load of free advertising to them (see the signature in every post from someone using Tapatalk that says "Sent from my phone using Tapatalk") which I think is easier for the photo upload side. BUT there is a whole lot of dodgy ownership stuff going on in the background - One of the other forums I'm on wrote a very detailed post about why Tapatalk is not good for the forum: https://www.landcruiserclub.net/community/threads/tapatalk-support-dropped.145367/ (https://www.landcruiserclub.net/community/threads/tapatalk-support-dropped.145367/)
Alternatively, a Forum Software upgrade (for example, to the same platform as the forum above) would enable direct loading of photos from both mobile phones and on a desktop, with the forum having more control over it all.
Hope that's all helpful, but like others, I'm seriously considering my engagement in the forum and what content I engage with.
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To the extent that if the mods and admins are serious about clearing up the forum, then those sorts of comments need knocking on the head - it's not something I'd say in the workplace, and probably not socially either - and nor is it something I'd expect to hear from someone.
I've mentioned before that I'm also a member on Whirlpool, as I know other's on here also are.
They have very high / strict levels of moderation, with the simple concept that if you wouldn't say it to Grandma at the dinner table, don't say it here! ::)
Not a bad idea at all ;D
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I've mentioned before that I'm also a member on Whirlpool, as I know other's on here also are.
They have very high / strict levels of moderation, with the simple concept that if you wouldn't say it to Grandma at the dinner table, don't say it here! ::)
Not a bad idea at all ;D
Perfectly sensible policy.
Thanks Snow for the edit on my post - it removed the posts that I'd quoted to reinforce my point.
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I've mentioned before that I'm also a member on Whirlpool, as I know other's on here also are.
They have very high / strict levels of moderation, with the simple concept that if you wouldn't say it to Grandma at the dinner table, don't say it here! ::)
Not a bad idea at all ;D
But as you know, you question a mods comment or decision in Whirlpool and you'll find yourself in the bin.
Besides, it's full of lefties, and the mods even belittle users for asking questions,
Haven't commented on anything thete for years, it's not worth the grief, spent many a time in the sin bin for asking a mod to clarify why?
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My 2 cents on the subject for what it's worth......What I used to love about this forum was it was about camping and outdoors, sadly though over time the majority of posts were becoming less and less about camping and travel, and more about certain people's opinions on politics and religion,
While a lot of topics have strayed from camping itself, politics and religion have never been an allowed topic.
A lot of people are complaining about certain topics, but if you aren't interested, why read it in the 1st place ?
I rarely ever start a thread, but there are heaps of threads I read.....and there are ones that wouldn't interest me ( like fishing or camp oven ), so I don't read them....fairly easy I thought ??
Smut humour ?? I can't say I recall reading any, but in my 61 yrs, I've learnt there are far better things to do in your life than get upset about some words written on a forum ?
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But as you know, you question a mods comment or decision in Whirlpool and you'll find yourself in the bin.
Hasn't happened to me yet!
Besides, it's full of lefties,
Certainly not the bit's I live in when I'm not on Swag ;D
it's not worth the grief, spent many a time in the sin bin for asking a mod to clarify why?
Maybe it's how you asked ??? :-*
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if you aren't interested, why read it in the 1st place ?
Yep, which is why my General Discussion page shows that Old Cars, Supercars, bicycles, F1, AFL & NRL have new unread posts, & they stay that way ;D
Same, same with discussions about various CTs - I've got a van so I'm now not interested in features of CTs.
But for all those people that are interested in those topics - go to it, & I hope you enjoy it! ;D
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Hasn't happened to me yet!
Certainly not the bit's I live in when I'm not on Swag ;D
Maybe it's how you asked ??? :-*
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Ahaha,
I had a long time user(mod, who didn't want to be named)) pm me and gave me the heads up on how the hand full of mods run the show,
In their lounge section, they do talk politics(only if you agree with their view), ;)
Unless it has loosened up since my last time in the bin(2011).
:)
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It’s not hard to understand, sometimes the threads you are interested in have off topic or family UN-friendly banter. But hard to not click on it when the thread you were enjoying turns sour. Just keep it friendly if going off topic.
For example Paceman often very politely asks for people to not make fun of Christianity, then everyone gets defensive even though their comments, while not that offensive, at least are indirectly not very nice. A simple “no probs mate” is all that’s needed l and that’s the end of it, instead 10 posts later it still carries on.
In the end it’s just a forum, still it doesn’t mean you need to be an arse or share your political/religious opinion.
I do my best to keep this forum camping related and get trip reports up with some pics, if anything it’s a diary for myself!! Others here haven’t posted anything camping related for a long time but they make sure their opinion is out there!! If there’s not enough camping related content to post, then maybe the forum will slowly dwindle and run it’s course. Has been this way for years, not a new thing. I keep coming back for the builds and trip reports, few and far between in this current times situation.
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I must live in a parallel universe....or maybe I just approach things with a different attitude.... ???
The only negative posts I see are from people grizzling about all the negativity..... ::) ::)
Lighten up and smell the flowers everyone. It's good to be alive.
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I must live in a parallel universe....or maybe I just approach things with a different attitude.... ???
The only negative posts I see are from people grizzling about all the negativity..... ::) ::)
Lighten up and smell the flowers everyone. It's good to be alive.
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I agree. Why are people getting "precious" about what's written on a forum ?
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I find it odd that people get upset that in the section that is for general banter, there are all sorts of topics! ??? Is this where non dedicated camping related banter happens and everything in general life is written about, so as it does not interfere with the dedicated sections associated with camping and that brings me to another thing. As far as camping goes, I don't give a flying fork about whether you have a tent swag camper trailer or a bloody caravan. If you're out in the bush or a camp ground, ya camping, no matter what ya in! :P :cheers:
Foo
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This topic has run it's course. Judge Jillsy has spoken in the other thread. If you don't like something keep scrolling...
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This topic has run it's course. Judge Jillsy has spoken in the other thread. If you don't like something keep scrolling...
Spot on
Cheers