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Title: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 07, 2020, 06:52:38 PM
Just spend our first day volunteering with Blazaide.

We’re are at the Nymboida Camp for four days.....

Driving in last night opened our eyes....

Driving my to the property open our eyes even more, eyes weld up a bit

Talking to the farmer, blew us away, he stayed to defend and I dunno how he survived, him and his mates saved the house but lost four shed and nearly all equipment. Sadly underinsured, more so didn’t understand ‘rural package’ insurance. He now wishes he let the house burn and saved the shed and stock yard. He took us through how quickly the fire got into them......had to believe unless you were there.

Anyways,
- I know know how they get fences so straight
- we knocked over 520m today, 130 star pickets over five sections, 7km of fencing still to go on this property.
- Honda driven star picket driver are a god send
- barb wire catches onto everything
- 7:30am to 2:30 pm and we were rooted
- our team leader is retired, he has been doing it for two months and we struggled to keep up, it was supposed to be only him and one other lady, he was so glad we turned up.
- Blazaid buy every thing local, wire, food, ice, don’t listen to the report Blazaid are doing contractor out of work, Farmers need fences, their ain’t enough contractors.

We have committed to four full days, we move into the hills tomorrow which will slow us up.

The farmer and his daughter don’t smile or interact much, they are busting their arses getting the strainer posts in for us. They were at it before we arrived and we still st it when we left.

So glad I brought the family, didn’t expect to spend a a week of our annual leave l, sweating our arses off building fences, it was hot and we’ve been blowing black Shit out of our noses for the last two hour. The three of us went through 12L of water today.

We’ll be sore tomorrow but will back up without complaint

The bride may get a couple  of piece of ironbark for home.......



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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Champin on January 07, 2020, 07:25:22 PM
Good on ya Weeds. That's true Aussie spirit right there. I've done a bit of rural fencing and know what a back breaking job it is. Makes you feel good when you do something like that for a total stranger for no other reason than to help someone in need. Again....good work Weeds

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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Hairs on January 07, 2020, 07:36:38 PM
That's awesome Weeds.
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Post by: xcvator on January 07, 2020, 07:39:50 PM
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Post by: Marcus73 on January 07, 2020, 08:05:29 PM
Awesome effort


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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Paddler Ed on January 07, 2020, 08:25:32 PM
I've got a suspicion on Saturday I'll be finding out when I need to help find the external boundaries again... THEN we can re-do the fences (internally isn't not as big drama, but the external needs to be accurate. Looks like at least 8.5km for the perimeter fences, but I think the surveyors pegs have gone, so I've got re-find those... got the MapInfo file and converted it to KMZ for the boundary, so we're getting somewhere...

Well done Weeds!
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: alnjan on January 07, 2020, 08:52:00 PM
Well done Weeds. 

Paddler always hard to find the boundary.  Seems anytime a neighbour gets surveyors in the is a new corner peg.   We have a copy or maybe original surveyors plan from when my Grandfather got the property.  All the major corners were described from the closest tree.   Not very handy now. 
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: ivan on January 07, 2020, 09:22:08 PM
I have done it before and will go again at Braidwood or if they start up down south coast in next couple of weeks.Its even more fun when you talk mates into coming but don't tell them they have to work.
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Foo on January 08, 2020, 05:03:38 AM
 :cup: :cheers:

Foo
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Rowlie on January 08, 2020, 06:53:48 AM
Good on you Weeds. It is life changing stuff isn't it? I did a month or so last year and although I had experience in rural fencing I learned a lot. Hope you appreciate that you are doing as much for the farmer's mental health as you are for his fences. I also noticed they weren't saying much early on but they opened up after a while and even wanted a yarn. Its hard yakka but I can't ever remember a beer tasting so good at the end of a day.

Rowlie
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Bird on January 08, 2020, 08:42:32 AM
Like others we've done it few times in the past... the appreciation from the families and land owners is worth everything.
Our club will be involved again...

Easy to get involved too
https://blazeaid.com.au/volunteering-information/being-a-blazeaid-volunteer/ (https://blazeaid.com.au/volunteering-information/being-a-blazeaid-volunteer/)
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Traveller on January 08, 2020, 08:57:06 AM
Like others we've done it few times in the past... the appreciation from the families and land owners is worth everything.
Our club will be involved again...

We are with you Bird, the missus and I have volunteered both with our club and by ourselves for a few years now. Can't believe the satisfaction you get out of helping put these great people back one their feet. The one thing that I always find touching is that the people you are helping cannot believe that total strangers are on their property helping them out, for some reason it seems to takes them a while to get used to it. I suppose that people on the land are usually fairly independent, but we have seen some that are about to throw it all in because the scale is just too much for them, but then quickly come around when they see the fences coming along.

Good on you Weeds, hang in there and enjoy the experience.
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: simmo_33 on January 08, 2020, 11:43:50 AM
Weeds thanks for posting about your experience. Apart from money, me and the missus have been trying to find a meaningful way to contribute in some way.
You have just found it for us, we will be on our way down to South Australia in a week or so.  We will try and spend an extra week on our way down to help where we can.

Rod
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Beachman on January 08, 2020, 11:56:47 AM
Fantastic effort and thanks for sharing your good deeds  :cheers:
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: KeithB on January 08, 2020, 04:02:45 PM
Denise and I have been wanting to make a donation to support the fire recovery in rural areas. I did a search on what charities were at work and got the various rural fire services plus the usual major charities. But no mention of Blazaide anywhere.

I reckon there will be rivers of money going to the others. So we sent our donation to Blazaide who are currently running ten camps for drought relief and are already organising recovery activity in Kangaroo Island. Any Swaggers who want to donate could do a lot worse.

Keith
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Bird on January 08, 2020, 04:16:19 PM
Quote from: KeithB
Denise and I have been wanting to make a donation to support the fire recovery in rural areas. I did a search on what charities were at work and got the various rural fire services plus the usual major charities. But no mention of Blazaide anywhere.

I was going to start a thread on this with a list of charities and what they were asking for...
When you google, many hits have a different list of charities..
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 08, 2020, 04:34:52 PM
Weeds thanks for posting about your experience. Apart from money, me and the missus have been trying to find a meaningful way to contribute in some way.
You have just found it for us, we will be on our way down to South Australia in a week or so.  We will try and spend an extra week on our way down to help where we can.

Rod

We donate regularly to causes as they arise, this time we figured to be hands on with the knowing that 100% of our effort, time,money is going into a fence.


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Post by: Fizzie on January 08, 2020, 04:35:43 PM
& from another forum, watch out, as the scammers collecting for this town or that are already apparently appearing >:(
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 08, 2020, 04:35:49 PM
Good on you Weeds. It is life changing stuff isn't it? I did a month or so last year and although I had experience in rural fencing I learned a lot. Hope you appreciate that you are doing as much for the farmer's mental health as you are for his fences. I also noticed they weren't saying much early on but they opened up after a while and even wanted a yarn. Its hard yakka but I can't ever remember a beer tasting so good at the end of a day.

Rowlie

Agree, yesterday the daughter of the property late teens didn’t utter a work...today she opened up a bit more.


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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 08, 2020, 04:39:05 PM
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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: wetduck on January 09, 2020, 10:59:59 AM
nice job, well done.

The thing I like about fencing is that you can look down the fenceline when it's done with a sense of pride and achievement.
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 10, 2020, 09:41:34 PM
nice job, well done.

The thing I like about fencing is that you can look down the fenceline when it's done with a sense of pride and achievement.

Yep.....and the farmer got 100% of what I donated.


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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 10, 2020, 10:10:35 PM
Well I committed to four days and finished up today, the bride and youngest son did three days

We were allocated the same property for the four days

Day 1 was awesome, the team leader took time to explain/show and give your the reins and we punched out plenty of meters

Day 2 and 3 different team leader with a different approach, we went with the flow but didn’t think we were overly effective or utilized. I did observe and learn some new tricks from a local that popped in to give a hand. Stripping wire didn’t sound like the best job when allocated but worked out quite well.

Day 4 ran out of posts at allocated property by 9:30, the rest of the team knocked off so I went to another property and continued for another four hours and learnt another skill or two..

Overall a great experience, coming from a fast paced days to day job it takes a little to adjust, actually I probably didn’t this well as I was a bit cranky on day 3.

6:30am Hot cooked breakfast provided
7:00am muster/safety briefing and team allocation, oh they supply lunch which you make and they have an esky, we opted to take our own lunch in the car fridge
7:30 ish at the property
2:30pm ish knock off
6:30pm dinner supplied.

Catering was spot on, plenty of food.

Retirees are quick to tell you of the benefits over and above helping a farmer out....three meals a day and free powered site and at some camps dogs are allowed, these guys are the backbone of Blazeaid and they hook in each day.

Each camp needs a number of volunteers before it can be established and take on fences volunteers, Co-ordinator, cook, admin.

It must be tough at times dealing with requests from property owners and deciding who gets support, hats off to the camp co-ordinators

Sadly >90% of properties are under insured i.e. no fence insurance. In most cases the farmer need to supply posts and wire.....a lot are not in a position to do this.

I used annual leave as I wanted the experience and it was in place if a cash donation. While I don’t think I take annual leave again I will donate money to Blazeaid in the future and if the timing is right relocate trailers for them.

I learnt some new skills
Assist with around 1km of fencing
Donated gloves, cutters and vests


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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Foo on January 11, 2020, 06:34:59 AM
Good on you.  :cup:

Foo
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Post by: Rowlie on January 11, 2020, 07:30:45 AM
Well done Weeds and to your wife and son also. I empathise with some of the frustrations ie running out of materials. I was a team leader (didn't step back quick enough) and it was sometimes hard to keep morale up when farmers didn't arrive on site when we did or had expectations that were different to our offerings. It was a matter of management on the run sometimes but in my experience thats just how it is in volunteer organisations.
Historically farmers have considered insurance on fencing as a low priority. Their approach in my experience was along the lines of "I'll never lose it all". I can absolutely assure them that insurers aren't making much - if anything - out of farm insurance and certainly not out of fencing premiums. The whole principle of insurance is the many paying for the few. If the "many" don't pay enough to cover the "few" the cover will ultimately disappear. There is much talk about premiums going up after these events but I am more concerned that some insurers might cease to offer protection in some cases. This has already happened in northern Australia because of cyclones / floods etc.

Rowlie
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Post by: MDS69 on January 11, 2020, 10:41:27 AM
Well done Weeds. That is a great thing you and your family have done. Can you post up the logistics of doing something like this.
How did you apply
How long did they take to reply and how long do you have to mobilise. Do you get to choose the area you go to.
Do you stay in Your camper at the show ground or similar. When they feed you breakfast and dinner is it a communal gathering of everyone ie property owners and volunteers or just the volunteers etc.
Interested in the behind the scenes aspect. Do you have anymore photos. Thanks.
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 12, 2020, 06:06:58 AM
Well done Weeds. That is a great thing you and your family have done. Can you post up the logistics of doing something like this.
How did you apply
How long did they take to reply and how long do you have to mobilise. Do you get to choose the area you go to.
Do you stay in Your camper at the show ground or similar. When they feed you breakfast and dinner is it a communal gathering of everyone ie property owners and volunteers or just the volunteers etc.
Interested in the behind the scenes aspect. Do you have anymore photos. Thanks.

I didn’t take many pics.....

Re applying. Go onto website and there is a page that list the current camps, the camp coordinator number is listed, just call and have a chat, they just need to know the day before arriving

They get back to you pretty quick, I left a message than sent a text, this worked well as there was ooor reception, one bar of 3g for Telstra.

You can choose the camp, we  first rang Casino and due to holidays they had too many volunteers, I think this is a rarity that they have too many. . I started driving to nymboida before they got back to me. Nymboida had four combat trailer with only enough volunteers for three to be out fencing.

Most camps are at a show grounds or public park, for nymboida its at the canoe Centre and there is powered sites, water and shower/toilet block. Volunteers don’t pay for the powered sites. We stayed in our camper on a non powered site, had a tent up for our son.

Re: feeding
hot and cold breakfast started at 6:30am for 1/2 hour. It buffet style with the volunteers that choose to join in. Most seemed to have breakfast as the muster/safety briefing is at 7am which everybody has to attend to sign on and see your allocation. Dinner is much the same arrangement, 6:30pm. No farmer attended breakfasts or dinner while we were there. We went to a local pub for dinner one night, just have to let the chief cook know. They fully support buying food locally and eating out locally.

Lunch, they have stuff out next to breakfast to make your own either sandwiches or take away container. The website mention farmer offering lunches but I suspect this is a rarity. We provided our own lunch, and made them fresh at the job. Our camp had an ice machine and amnesty for each team for lunch’s and water.

The local council was picking up the food bill.

The thing we did find was how welcoming they are when you arrive....keep in mind Blazeaid will be doing this for at least 12 months....or more at each area. Even on your last morning they acknowledge your help at the muster. 

How our day looked
6am up
6:30 communal breakfast, filled water (we took a 10L water cooler thingy
7am muster
7:30 at property
10 ish smoko
12 ish lunch
2 ish knock off, the property we were on had the nymboida running though it and the property owner was happy for us to go for a swim.

Keep in mind you are a volunteers, go st the pace your comfortable with. We kept up some other didn’t which is fine. Gotta remember some of the team leader have been doing it every day for two months. Pulling a strand of wire up to a couple of hundred meters gets you huffing and puffing, and there is four to do. Than knocking in 130 steel posts with a petrol driver is also taxing. You can do as little or as much as you like.

Re: tools, everything is provided although if you have a spare dollar or I’d buy a good quality set of wire cutters, beginners are always cutting twitching wire and stripping wire. I bought seven pairs and donated them, starting price was $90 but they quickly dropped the price to $72, having these were a god send. The only other tool I wish I had brought was fencing pliers, just saves waiting or trying to find one of the two in the trailer

Your do need sturdy boots and I suggest long sleeve shirts and wide brim hat.

Good fitting leather riggers gloves you’ll need, there can be a shortage of these at camps. I took 3 x 12 packs (M, L, XL) and donated the rest

You’re supposed to wear a hi-vis vest, I had hi-vis shirt but my wife and son found the extra layer of a vest just made it hotter. It strange being in a heavily treeed area where the trees have no leaves. In the middle of summer equals very hot.

In short, if you commit time they’ll take you on, we got a good team leader day 1 which set us up for the next four days, so much that in day four when we knocked off at 9:30 I went to day 1 team leader new property to continue, and sure enough he was ringing wet in sweat and needed a hand.



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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 12, 2020, 08:10:09 AM
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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: geopaj on January 12, 2020, 09:11:20 AM
Weeds, I think it’s great!

I’ve just emailed the new camp that’s been set up in the Adelaide Hills and offered a hand. I’ve put the word out and hopefully will be able to rustle up a few mates too.

I work full time but, according to the website, I see that they are happy to have people volunteer for just a day on a weekend. So if anyone is interested in helping, don’t be put off by the thought that you need to take annual leave and volunteer for a whole week.
Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: weeds on January 12, 2020, 02:17:05 PM
Cut and paste from Facebook page, I can confirm the Knippex wire cutters are worth the dollars


All volunteers are asked to bring their own riggers gloves, goggles, hi viz vest and pair of Knippex or Starcraft wire cutters as we will mainly on cleanup before fencing starts .


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Title: Re: Blazaide - rebuilding fences one star picket at a time
Post by: Hewy54 on January 30, 2020, 05:21:42 PM
To all Swaggers, please consider doing a bit for Blazeaid.
I have done 8 camps so far for a total of 14 months in the last 5 years.
Spent three weeks at Edithburgh before Xmas, then got a frantic call in the new year to get over to Kangaroo Island as soon as possible.
Just completed my first stint of 4 weeks before I go back for several months.
Just some info on how desperate the situation is.
On KI the fire was 210,000 ha.
over 200 farmers affected.
We have 103 farmers registered with most losing between 50 and 75 km of fences.
We had 54 volunteers in the field yesterday in 9 teams.
So far we have cleared nearly 400 km of fences, so we are about 7% through those registered or 3% through the total, but rebuilding takes much longer.

The Eastern states are worse off.

Please consider helping out wherever possible, not just now but in the months to come,
The KI camp may be running for up to 9 months as long as we have volunteers, funding and a venue to stay in.