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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2013, 04:26:25 PM »
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2013, 04:34:20 PM »
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2013, 09:29:28 PM »
Hi Rockman,

I have a very dated degree in Industrial Engineering, have spent a lot of time studying trailer suspension design and have built a few trailers myself over the years. I am sure that the suspension in these new campers works beautifully.

My point is that springs located well inboard and a suspension with a very low roll centre are not, at least in my opinion, a good combination for stability when everything goes pear shaped on the road.

I am sure that there are plenty of rigs on the road that have not encountered their potential instability problems because the combination of conditions required to induce an uncrecoverable sway have not yet presented themselves. Like loading the thing the wrong way, tyre deflation at speed, crosswinds and road bumps at the same moment, instability in the towing vehicle and  and a combination of one or more of these at the same time.

These things don't seem to matter much for very light trailers. But with modern, well equipped campers now getting up over 1500kg or more loaded, we have a whole new ball game with suspension design.

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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2013, 09:30:48 PM »
Quote from: KeithB on December 20, 2013, 09:29:28 PM
Hi Rockman,

I have a very dated degree in Industrial Engineering, have spent a lot of time studying trailer suspension design and have built a few trailers myself over the years. I am sure that the suspension in these new campers works beautifully.

My point is that springs located well inboard and a suspension with a very low roll centre are not, at least in my opinion, a good combination for stability when everything goes pear shaped on the road.

I am sure that there are plenty of rigs on the road that have not encountered their potential instability problems because the combination of conditions required to induce an uncrecoverable sway have not yet presented themselves. Like loading the thing the wrong way, tyre deflation at speed, crosswinds and road bumps at the same moment, instability in the towing vehicle and  and a combination of one or more of these at the same time.

These things don't seem to matter much for very light trailers. But with modern, well equipped campers now getting up over 1500kg or more loaded, we have a whole new ball game with suspension design.

Keith

fair enough .. thanks for the reply
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2013, 04:48:30 PM »
Time will tell.

Too many bells and whistles for me.


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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2013, 08:01:51 AM »
Gotta say in my opinion they look the goods, and after dealing with airbags for the last 20 odd years can't really see any problems with the set up.

And really people as for listed prices, serious buyers will always move a salesman on this, otherwise there wouldn't be too many brand new four wheel drives getting around would there. Brand new anything for that matter.

Look forward to seeing one of these in the flesh, it just seems like something new and different. A bit of a fresh breeze so to sp :cheers:
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2014, 09:22:31 AM »
I was just having a look at these Mirage RV campers and found something strange on their web page. I went to have a look at what models they offer and noticed that the images appear to be of the new model Pioneer CT's. http://www.miragerv.com.au/models vs http://www.pioneercampers.com/

The rest of the website has plenty of pictures a different model of camper. Anyone understand what that's about? Are they related companies?

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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2014, 09:30:57 AM »
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2014, 09:42:04 AM »
I was in their workshop yesterday. Very impressive bit of gear.  :cup:

Although I didn't have time to climb all over it, what I did see, (about half a dozen in various stages of completion) was pretty damn cool.

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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2014, 09:46:36 AM »
yes ... i would agree .. nice camper
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2014, 07:17:53 AM »
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2014, 10:16:55 AM »
Quote from: mickmac42 on February 14, 2014, 09:22:31 AM
I was just having a look at these Mirage RV campers and found something strange on their web page. I went to have a look at what models they offer and noticed that the images appear to be of the new model Pioneer CT's. http://www.miragerv.com.au/models vs http://www.pioneercampers.com/

The rest of the website has plenty of pictures a different model of camper. Anyone understand what that's about? Are they related companies?

Mike


Maybe they used the pioneer images as examples when designing the website layout but forgot to replace them with their own mirage photos before the website went live?
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2014, 10:49:48 AM »
The one thing missing though that I would like is some bench/preparation space in the kitchen.

I like to have somewhere handy to put ingredients and utensils etc... when cooking.
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2014, 05:54:47 PM »
Quote from: gclan on February 27, 2014, 10:49:48 AM
The one thing missing though that I would like is some bench/preparation space in the kitchen.

I like to have somewhere handy to put ingredients and utensils etc... when cooking.
Sliding bench is an option. Look's pretty good.
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2014, 09:00:39 PM »
Quote from: mickmac42 on February 14, 2014, 09:22:31 AM
I was just having a look at these Mirage RV campers and found something strange on their web page. I went to have a look at what models they offer and noticed that the images appear to be of the new model Pioneer CT's. http://www.miragerv.com.au/models vs http://www.pioneercampers.com/

The rest of the website has plenty of pictures a different model of camper. Anyone understand what that's about? Are they related companies?

Mike


Website looks a bit dodgy  - the miragerv.com.au that is... The pics on the model page do not show he same camper as the gallery page... hope that the quality of the Web page is no indication for the quality of the product.
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2014, 10:18:17 PM »
Quote from: Renno on February 27, 2014, 05:54:47 PM
Sliding bench is an option. Look's pretty good.
Renno  :cheers:

Thanks Renno, good to know. I didn't look at the options as I assumed it should have been a standard inclusion :-\
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2014, 09:40:29 AM »
Quote from: theins on February 27, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
Website looks a bit dodgy  - the miragerv.com.au that is... The pics on the model page do not show he same camper as the gallery page... hope that the quality of the Web page is no indication for the quality of the product.
Think its the same website designer. Pretty sure they will have a new website up soon. Last time I spoke to George he was under the pump with a huge amount of interest. I was very impressed with the quality when we had a look.
Renno :cheers:
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2014, 09:29:25 PM »
Would love to hear from anyone that has actually taken delivery of one, would be good to listen to some feedback on what they think of both the trailer and what the crew is like to deal with.

Am keen but want to hear more before I even think of spending the $$$$$ on the unknown.

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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2014, 09:58:45 PM »
 I was just researching mirage campers to find out about them and BANG ... look at this, maybe i should take my money elsewhere , has anyone put down a depoist or brought one yet ?

"Prestige Offroad & Prestige Sunroofs
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Hi everyone, please be advised that we are no longer a dealer of Mirage RV Camper trailers and we have initiated legal action. Persons have contacted us in an effort to see if we can assist them in any way as they have very similar stories to tell. While we are happy to hear anybody elses experiences, I am afraid we cannot assist. We regret deeply any inconvenience and hardship and hope our past advocacy has not been a part of it"

Just curious.

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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2014, 10:30:20 PM »
No surprises there.
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2014, 06:34:27 AM »
I just had a look around on the web site, be nice if there was a bit more information on it.
The FB site mentions a fire in the work shop.
Remember, there is always 2 side to an argument, could be wrong to make assumptions about these CT's due to a legal argument. Be a shame that a new innovative camper fails from this.
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« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2014, 06:56:52 AM »
Too True DaveR, that's why it would be nice to hear from those who have one sitting in the driveway.
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2014, 06:30:05 AM »
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Quote from: DaveR on March 05, 2014, 06:34:27 AM
I just had a look around on the web site, be nice if there was a bit more information on it.
The FB site mentions a fire in the work shop.
Remember, there is always 2 side to an argument, could be wrong to make assumptions about these CT's due to a legal argument. Be a shame that a new innovative camper fails from this.
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2014, 04:18:15 PM »
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
To the people that have personal messaged me regarding my decision not to continue with my purchase of a Mirage Rv Camper Trailer , I cannot make any comments .
It was my decision to terminate the agreement for that company to build my camper trailer .
I have made no  threats in terms of disparaging their company name due to my change of mind with the camper purchase .
I will not and have not made any defamatory comments on any forums or web sites .
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Re: New interesting camper on the market
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2014, 04:31:11 PM »
Uh? OK I guess.
What's going on here.
Another manufacturer going burst?
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