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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2015, 04:22:59 PM »


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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2015, 04:37:25 PM »
what about insurance companies trying to weasel their way out of a claim because you did not use rated shackles?.
 I use rated shackles for this reason only and yes I think its an urban myth about people being booked by the local constabulary.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2015, 06:43:52 PM »
My BIL runs one rated and one not

Each way bet, 50% of the fine or the ultimate fence sitter.

For me its easy. I use rated gear to recover my rig, why not purchase less than $10 worth of shackles to keep the ttailer attached in the event of a problem. Although I do run a DO35 so should have no probs

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2015, 07:17:16 PM »
I run rated also for the $7 or so $$ each not really an issue

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2015, 07:59:55 PM »
Not really concerned if it is a legal requirement or not. They call them safety chains for a reason so why risk a $40000 trailer for the sake of a few dollars.

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM »
Mine are rated but just for peace of mind not because I'm paranoid or getting fined

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2015, 08:30:32 PM »
I dont get it
Why WOULDNT you use rated shackles...... Pretty dopey not to

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2015, 09:24:23 PM »
Like how any trailer come unhitched.......

So you have a rated shackle......what sort of chain was used, did a certified welder weld the chain fly he draw bar.......

So many variables......been using standard shackled for he last 30 years

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2015, 09:46:01 PM »
That area is near us and the Police and State Transport have issued statements that this did not happen and that there is no such offence, just guidelines.  You can follow this up in their local newspaper, but it was all another social media untruth.  Personally, I do use rated shackles on our camper.  Kevin
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2015, 10:31:33 PM »
Ok I just did a crane course, and a boilermaker and in younger years did a lot of rock sports, so have a good understanding of how metals can be affected, if your such a tight wad not to spend $20 or so to by rated shackle maybe you should sell your camper/caravan and sit at home twiddling your thumbs to watch your money do nothing, otherwise I hope you trailer stays behind you when I drive past you.

I also am bashing my head against a brick wall to convince my inlaws to replace their $2 shackles on their 3.5t caravan which have been on it for 8+years, and they just had it passed by the RMS NSW as is

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2015, 11:41:04 PM »
Here is the NSW info straight from the horse.

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2015, 12:13:03 AM »
I find it's always best to do them up  :police:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2015, 04:56:35 AM »
How many here have rated shackles on non rated chain?

Be honest  ;D
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2015, 07:44:52 AM »
My old man got pulled up yesterday for a machinery check when towing his caravan.
never got picked for not having rated shackles. So obviously not an issue with QLD transport.

I still use rated shackles, for an extra couple of dollars its a no brainer for me.
Not worth the risk if insurance becomes an issue.

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2015, 07:55:46 AM »
How many here have rated shackles on non rated chain?

Be honest  ;D

And just as importantly, how are they attached to the drawbar and is where they are attached to the drawbar, suitable for the amount of stress that a trailer becoming detached from its coupling would place on that section of the drawbar?

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2015, 04:14:49 PM »
There are three levels to answer this issue;

1. What does road safety legislation and regulations require?                   Not much.
2. What does the law of negligence expect of you if things go wrong?       Do what any sensible person would have done, or stay within the manufacturer's standard (the latter is easier to prove than the former.)
3. What is safe and sensible?                                                                Get the strongest you can afford.

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2015, 04:54:29 PM »
i use cable ties, but not cheap chinese ones, i made mine by melting down thousands of those little plastic ends that they put of shoe laces. never failed me yet.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2015, 05:20:53 PM »
I suppose fuse wire wouldn't pass either then  ???
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2015, 05:37:28 PM »
i use cable ties, but not cheap chinese ones, i made mine by melting down thousands of those little plastic ends that they put of shoe laces. never failed me yet.

I suppose fuse wire wouldn't pass either then  ???

Ah, the peanut gallery has something meaningful to contribute  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just saying  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2015, 05:41:13 PM »
Ah, the peanut gallery has something meaningful to contribute  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just saying  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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i think others beat us too that.

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2015, 05:43:06 PM »
Yeah mate, was about time the seriousness was taken out of the thread and you did a great job of that  :cup:

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2015, 05:50:02 PM »
Thats what i thought too buddy. I do take care i use the right shackles for that.  :cup:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2015, 06:15:22 PM »
How many here have rated shackles on non rated chain?

Be honest  ;D
I bought the trailer with chains attached.  If I put crap shackles on thats my problem.  The chains are the manufacturer's problem.  I am not educated enough to warrant the effectiveness of said chains. Use rated shackles.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2015, 06:38:07 PM »

i use cable ties, but not cheap chinese ones, i made mine by melting down thousands of those little plastic ends that they put of shoe laces. never failed me yet.
Black ones or white ones?
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2015, 06:50:11 PM »
Just don't use them at all.. Throw the chains over the A-frame and your good as gold.. ;D