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1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« on: July 01, 2012, 06:45:23 PM »
Went in to Super Cheap Auto today to buy some grease cartridges, while there i grabbed myself a set of 3000kg car stands, as i have now for years been doing some partly dodgy work under vehicles (usually using a wheel as a safety stop if the jack gives way) but now i have the stands, i feel all pro like, haha....
More importantly though i lashed out and spent $45 on a 1/2"Drive Rattle Gun... WHY DIDN'T I DO THIS FRIKKEN YEARS AGO!!!!... Pulled both wheels off the CT, checked out the brakes and bearings...... just because it was a 10 second job to rattle the nuts off...

I'm not sure if i'm the only person that continually does things the hard way, when for a few $$ the easy way is right there.... more strange however is for 7 yrs i sold and repaired airtools, and never collected myself a swag of airtools... ??
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 07:04:36 PM »
Air tools are great and are getting much cheaper in price for the DIY'er. Be sure to check your wheel nuts buy hand still to make sure the air tool isn't faulty. Sometimes the air tool can be faulty and the nuts can be loose but also can be to tight and damage the thread.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 07:06:53 PM by bnk08 »
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 08:25:20 PM »
If you think air rattle guns are good, wait till you buy a cordless one. Fantastic but not cheap.
And ALWAYS check your nuts by hand afterwards, NEVER rely on a rattle gun to finish the job.
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1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 08:56:24 PM »
A good quality air ratchet is also worth it's weight in gold :cheers:

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 09:32:25 PM »
Yep agree with checking the wheel nuts, i put the nuts back on the studs a turn or two by hand, then on the lowest power setting run the nut back up the thread then finish the tightening by hand/wheelbrace......... besides the gun not tightening the nuts enough, another problem can be if you use the rattle gun to fully tighten the nuts you run the risk of snapping off studs or if they don't break when tightening them up with the gun, there is a fair chance after a while if you get a flat out in the bush you may not be able to undo them by hand......
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1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 09:47:28 PM »
I have also heard that if you do up the nuts with the rattle gun you can stretch the studs weakening then and making the prone to snapping



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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 09:55:40 PM »
Quote from: 99disco on July 01, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
I have also heard that if you do up the nuts with the rattle gun you can stretch the studs weakening then and making the prone to snapping



Shane

Yep this is true........
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2012, 09:56:28 PM »
Get yourself some of these and problem solved http://justtools.com.au/prod256.htm

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2012, 10:28:02 PM »
Got the same gun 12 months ago......brilliant !!!

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2012, 10:48:53 PM »
Only use the rattle gun to nip up the nuts, then look in your owners manual and tighten up the nuts to the specified torque value with a quality torque wrench.  Every other method is not accurate.

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 01:40:42 AM »
When ya got a lotta nuts you need a quality air torque wrench with accessories-
http://www.radtorque.com.au/products_pneumatic.php?sub=24
Trouble with China Inc stuff is it can explode into bits but it's hard to justify the price of a Shinano impact driver for the handyman.
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 05:14:23 AM »
Quote from: 99disco on July 01, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
I have also heard that if you do up the nuts with the rattle gun you can stretch the studs weakening then and making the prone to snapping



Shane

You won't do that with the cheapy ones. ;)

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 06:48:29 AM »
Quote from: pafc on July 01, 2012, 10:48:53 PM
Only use the rattle gun to nip up the nuts, then look in your owners manual and tighten up the nuts to the specified torque value with a quality torque wrench.  Every other method is not accurate.

Alex



Who here tightens their wheel nuts with a torque wrench?


Anyone...



Hello...




Guys...





Anyone?






Having owned a sub $100 impact gun, stripping threads or over tightening is not something you really have to worry about.
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2012, 06:58:04 AM »
Quote from: kylarama on July 02, 2012, 06:48:29 AM


Who here tightens their wheel nuts with a torque wrench?


Anyone...



Hello...




Guys...





Anyone?






Having owned a sub $100 impact gun, stripping threads or over tightening is not something you really have to worry about.


I own a Patrol which have a tenancy of dropping alloys, the torque wrench travels in the back for checks all the time.

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 07:12:48 AM »
Ditto.  I have a full set of air tools I bought from Aldi a year or so ago - don't use them very often, but when I do I'm glad I've got them.
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2012, 08:04:38 AM »
Quote from: Moto Mech on July 01, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
If you think air rattle guns are good, wait till you buy a cordless one. Fantastic but not cheap.
And ALWAYS check your nuts by hand afterwards, NEVER rely on a rattle gun to finish the job.

I agree Moto Mech,
I've got a hitachi 18v cordless rattle gun and reckon it is great. Convenient, easy, and mobile, you can use it anywhere.
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2012, 08:14:47 AM »
Quote from: kylarama on July 02, 2012, 06:48:29 AM


Who here tightens their wheel nuts with a torque wrench?







Me, always.

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2012, 08:41:03 AM »
I use the air rattle gun from our endless air compressor but use a torque extension bar when doing them up (120Nm extension for our GU Patrol). Been doing that way for 5 years now.

http://precisiontools.warrenandbrown.com.au/product-details/wheel-torque-extension-&-impact-socket-set/230

As a precaution though I do carry 3 front and 3 rear wheel studs for our Patrol (one end has longer suds than the other - just not sure which one as I haven't used them yet).

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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2012, 12:50:52 PM »
Quote from: GGPatrol on July 02, 2012, 06:58:04 AM

I own a Patrol which have a tenancy of dropping alloys, the torque wrench travels in the back for checks all the time.

GG



Quote from: Wandering Tassie on July 02, 2012, 08:14:47 AM
Me, always.

Trevor


Righty-O then.

Excuse me while I climb back in my box :-[

So the old method of tightening with a 6ft length of water pipe until the thread strips, then backing off a 1/4 turn is no longer accepted... 8)
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2012, 11:40:10 PM »
Quote from: kylarama on July 02, 2012, 12:50:52 PM



So the old method of tightening with a 6ft length of water pipe until the thread strips, then backing off a 1/4 turn is no longer accepted... 8)

I reckon this method is a bloody life saver and totally acceptable ;D...... in fact i use this method when making any adjustments to any of the driveline or steering components......... i find it relievs any driver fatigue issues when making long trips......... knowing that i have heavily stessed and potentially hazardous links holding my wheels to the vehicle and straining to keep my vehicle heading in a straight line........ keeps me on the edge of my seat and never ever drousy!!! ;D ;D :cup:
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2012, 06:25:53 AM »
Quote from: Barrabart on July 02, 2012, 11:40:10 PM
I reckon this method is a bloody life saver and totally acceptable ;D...... in fact i use this method when making any adjustments to any of the driveline or steering components......... i find it relievs any driver fatigue issues when making long trips......... knowing that i have heavily stessed and potentially hazardous links holding my wheels to the vehicle and straining to keep my vehicle heading in a straight line........ keeps me on the edge of my seat and never ever drousy!!! ;D ;D :cup:

and real men don't put split pins in their castle nuts!

As my Pa used to say "you can always tell the physical strength of a man by the amount of ezi outs and helicoils in his workshop"...
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 02:59:47 PM »
Quote from: kylarama on July 03, 2012, 06:25:53 AM
and real men don't put split pins in their castle nuts!

As my Pa used to say "you can always tell the physical strength of a man by the amount of ezi outs and helicoils in his workshop"...

 ;D :cheers: ;D........ don't forget the Oxy set........
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Re: 1/2" Drive Rattle Gun.
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 05:34:42 PM »
Quote from: kylarama on July 03, 2012, 06:25:53 AM
and real men don't put split pins in their castle nuts!

As my Pa used to say "you can always tell the physical strength of a man by the amount of ezi outs and helicoils in his workshop"...

I always thought the little cap you put on last held everything in place nice and secure  :-[ :-[ :-[
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