Post by: weeds on October 20, 2017, 06:01:59 PM
B Double technology???
https://issuu.com/mweekly/docs/mwvol7no24
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Post by: jwb on October 20, 2017, 06:25:23 PM
Post by: speewa158 on October 20, 2017, 06:26:50 PM
Post by: weeds on October 20, 2017, 07:00:45 PM
Weeds ? you haven't been ,,,smoking something grown in the back shed ??? ???,,,,,,have you ??? ???
Huh
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Post by: Bird on October 20, 2017, 07:07:34 PM
hideously cost prohibitive
Post by: speewa158 on October 20, 2017, 07:32:58 PM
Post by: Brij on October 20, 2017, 08:35:31 PM
From the Victorian Road Safety (Vehicle) Regs -
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249 Towing offences
(1) A person must not, without the Corporation's approval, use, or cause or permit to be used, on a highway a motor vehicle that is towing more than one other vehicle.
So how is a B double allowed to tow 2 trailers?
Easy -
Quote
244A Non-application to heavy vehicles
This Chapter, except regulations 245, 245A, 246, 247, 252 and 253, does not apply to a heavy vehicle
Post by: DrewXT on October 20, 2017, 08:36:13 PM
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Post by: Brij on October 20, 2017, 08:53:46 PM
You'd have to think he's going to get pulled over by every single cop car that sees him, and gets booked by all of them...
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Actually he did.
I used to work for Vicroads and received a photo at one stage from another enforcement officer from Mildura who pulled him up and instructed him to take it back home, with the help of a couple of bits of paper for his efforts.
Post by: DrewXT on October 20, 2017, 09:15:26 PM
Actually he did.The Vic Roads compliance boys I used to know at Kew would have had a field day
I used to work for Vicroads and received a photo at one stage from another enforcement officer from Mildura who pulled him up and instructed him to take it back home, with the help of a couple of bits of paper for his efforts.
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Post by: weeds on October 20, 2017, 09:20:13 PM
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Post by: tryagain on October 20, 2017, 09:23:01 PM
I'm skeptical as if he does have approval why hasn't he flood gates opened and we see two trailers being towed everywhere
As Bird said cost for one getting everything engineered, other from memory is that he was a retired truck driver and you need to be liscenced to drive a B-double to drive it
Post by: alnjan on October 20, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
But the newspaper arrival says it's all approved, legal
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the newpaper is also dated Friday April 12, 2013
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on October 20, 2017, 09:31:57 PM
Post by: weeds on October 20, 2017, 09:38:43 PM
Ex truckie
B Double technology
Inspected and passed and legal
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Post by: kylarama on October 21, 2017, 06:47:15 AM
The Vic Roads compliance boys I used to know at Kew would have had a field dayYeah, but the guys and gals over at the old Greensborough Vicroads probably gave it full approval.
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After giving it the full once over by glancing at it out their window....
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Post by: edz on October 21, 2017, 07:46:22 AM
Sheeple's way of thinking: Its not the normal way everyone else does it, Ok then I cant do it ..
Old school approach: We need to do this and that to get that result, so hook in and do whats needed to get it done .. :cup:
Post by: Brij on October 21, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
On another forum they say he had no issues driving across four states when pulled up by the authorities.
Ex truckie
B Double technology
Inspected and passed and legal
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Whats the B double technology?
A B double is a configeration consisting of a prime mover (a vehicle that has it's tow coupling above the rear axle group, not behind) towing a semi trailer (a trailer with it's only axle group at the rear of the trailer and it's tow coupling at the front) which is in turn towing another semi trailer.
This blokes configeration doesn't use a prime mover or semi trailers, so it can't be considered a b double, which is why he got pulled up just outside Mildura and sent home.
Post by: weeds on October 21, 2017, 09:46:19 AM
Whats the B double technology?
A B double is a configeration consisting of a prime mover (a vehicle that has it's tow coupling above the rear axle group, not behind) towing a semi trailer (a trailer with it's only axle group at the rear of the trailer and it's tow coupling at the front) which is in turn towing another semi trailer.
This blokes configeration doesn't use a prime mover or semi trailers, so it can't be considered a b double, which is why he got pulled up just outside Mildura and sent home.
I hearing ya
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Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on October 21, 2017, 09:51:36 AM
Not at this time permitted in Vic.
Any/all trailers would need break away braking, besides anything else.
Post by: Wukkers on October 21, 2017, 11:23:17 AM
Post by: Brij on October 21, 2017, 12:15:14 PM
Be more considered as a road train, I thought.
Not at this time permitted in Vic.
Any/all trailers would need break away braking, besides anything else.
There is a limited road train network in Victoria https://vicroadsmaps.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=5e1ec0a877eb450b8e46ac29b3343712 (https://vicroadsmaps.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=5e1ec0a877eb450b8e46ac29b3343712)
Then if you meet the stringent requirements you can call them a 30m A doubles and run them on this network
http://vicroadsmaps.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=04f70aa330a444e4aeb0cc63bd2e31d1
(http://vicroadsmaps.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=04f70aa330a444e4aeb0cc63bd2e31d1)
Hopefully pick up the 1st of our 6 sets of A doubles next week :cup:
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 21, 2017, 12:24:38 PM
Post by: callmejoe on October 21, 2017, 01:44:21 PM
Post by: weeds on October 21, 2017, 01:49:31 PM
Its a bit like riding a pushbike on busy roads, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. IMO :angel:
Don't bring pushbikes into it......
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Post by: speewa158 on October 21, 2017, 06:58:10 PM
Post by: Fizzie on October 22, 2017, 08:01:20 AM
Reckon you could sell tickets to watch him reverse it down a ramp or onto a site though >:D
Post by: callmejoe on October 22, 2017, 08:42:52 AM
But some days you got it, and some days you don't.
Post by: Aussie Iron on October 22, 2017, 03:53:37 PM
Dan.
Post by: guido85 on October 22, 2017, 04:59:43 PM
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Post by: weeds on October 22, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
Ok guys the how is it that you see people in the north an I have seen them around Childers area towing 2 and 3 trailers a fuel trailer a compressor and a parts trailer?
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On public roads??
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Post by: guido85 on October 22, 2017, 05:14:00 PM
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Post by: weeds on October 22, 2017, 05:17:53 PM
Yep down the Bruce and captain cook highways and all places in between
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I must never have been in the right spot at the right time.....
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Post by: Bongo on October 22, 2017, 08:24:57 PM
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Post by: Moggy on October 22, 2017, 08:44:56 PM
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Post by: Brij on October 22, 2017, 10:04:50 PM
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/t067-sa-operation-of-motor-graders-towing-trailers-up-to-maximum-length-of-42-0-metres-in-remote-areas.pdf (https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/t067-sa-operation-of-motor-graders-towing-trailers-up-to-maximum-length-of-42-0-metres-in-remote-areas.pdf)
Note, many conditions apply.
I expect similar would apply in outback NT and Qld, although I would not expect it to apply on the more highly populated east coast, Bruce Hwy etc as suggested earlier.
Also remember these are Heavy Vehicles to which different rules apply than to light vehicles.
Post by: IanS on October 22, 2017, 11:18:26 PM
Here is a setup that I use, its not road legal and I'm not going to admit that I've used it on public roads 8)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4464/37804741886_a28d111571_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZAFbEA)DSCF1507.JPG (https://flic.kr/p/ZAFbEA) by westoz2011 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/66650419@N05/), on Flickr
Post by: prodigyrf on October 23, 2017, 12:29:02 AM